Dodik: Kosovo's independence would affect RS

Don't Lajcak and Burns realise how stupid their opinions are? The West has got to stop applying double standards.
Bosko

Hasn't US support for Albanian independence on Kosovo been primarily based on the grounds that the people there do not want to live in Serbia, the will of the people must be respected, and that there is nothing that can be done to stop them from achieving independence?

If that's the case, why should US foreign policy be any different towards RS if the sentiment is the same?

Oh right, RS does nothing to further US strategic interests. Oops, my bad.

How long before we start writing "Good luck RS on your way"?

EU and USA should be aware that after Kosovo Albanians right on self determination the same right is applicable on every ethnic group in this world including Serbs. There is no way to sell the fog naymore and underestimate peoples inteligence. The question is only which way do we choose, violence or peace to implement the right on self determination.

The difference between Lajcak and Burns and normal everyday citizen is that they truly believe saying something makes it true.

A unilateral change in Serbia's borders will effectively nullify the ideology that Dayton was based upon. Dayton will no longer make any sense.

Those that question Bosnia's settlement in the light of the hypocrisy of the EU/US/NATO position on Kosovo do so correctly. Kosovo was always part of Serbia.

Jen, The Serbs in RS were ALWAYS the majority there so no ethnic cleansing happened. There are Muslims living there now, so where is this they were all expelled coming from? Enought of the CNN propaganda about Srebrenica. People on the ground like Gen. L. McKenzie have more credible information and they don't agree with that.

Vojvodina is not made up of Hungarian majority so even if they went to vote on it, it wouldn't get far.

Do you remember that Bosnia was NEVER Muslim. Bosnia was invaded by the Turks and converted some of the population to Islam. This does not entitle that population now to rule over the non Muslims. Bosnia is not a multicultural state. Serbian and Croatian input in the government is small so therefore double standards cannot apply.

Serbs have just as much right to self rule as anybody else. Muslims can have their part of Bosnia, Croatians their and Serbs their RS. More than fair, since Bosnia was never a Muslim country in the first place.

Well, if you guys think the Serbs in Bosnia should have independence (provided Albanians in Kosovo get one), why stop there? Why not grant independence to Muslims in Sandzak, Hungarians in Vojvodina, and every other group that seeks it. Besides, RS became majority Serbs ONLY after they killed/expelled everyone else. Does Srebrenica ring a bell??? I mean, you want independence in Bosnia, sure, but only after Serbs grant it to their minorities that seek it (including Sandzak), and only after borders are renegotiated, i.e. ethnically cleansed areas cannot be in Serbia (Srebrencia, Foca, Zvornik, etc).

azir,
Kosovo's administrative boundary has only existed since 1974, when the new yugoslav constitution gave it autonomy. Then Kosovo became ethnically pure due to constant harassment of the serb population. So if you're going to say that RS ethnically cleansed its land, and albanians in Kosovo didn't, you are very mistaken.

And neither does BiH have a Serb majority, so what is your point exactly?
(Alexander james, 19 November 2007 12:14)

'Alexander james', Are you comparing the position of Serbs in Bosnia to Hungarians in Vojvodina? The logical conclusion to your analogy is that the Serbs would be looking to take all of Bosnia...

Kosovo is a historic region, RS is not! Get this fact into your heads and you will understand what the difference is. Also Sandzak is a historic region. Do you want Sandzak to split off from Serbia?

"Enough of the CNN propaganda about Srebrenica. People on the ground like Gen. L. McKenzie have more credible information and they don't agree with that."

Peggy: Gen L. MacKenzie was not "on the ground" at the time of the Srebrenica genocide, having in fact left Bosnia & Herzegovina two years previously.

His Serb-funded rantings on the subject of Srebrenica are not considered credible by anyone who knows even the minimum of facts about what took place in Srebrenica in July 1995.

"Vojvodina is not made up of Hungarian majority so even if they went to vote on it, it wouldn't get far."

And neither does BiH have a Serb majority, so what is your point exactly?

One of the main differences between Republica serbska and Kosova is that RS was born out of aggression and genocide where as Kosova was a unit of federal Yugoslavia since it's birth.In other words Kosova's has been historicaly bordered by neigbors.When will the international finally make the serbs accountable for their aggresstion?I still believe that crime shouldn't pay and that includes the serbs getting even consideration for EU membership.Justice for the victims of serbs demands nothing less!

Azir, General McKenzie a paid lobbyist for the Serbs??? Wow, where did you get that information from?
Please provide links to any credible sites on this.

I've also heard that the Bosnian Muslims have accused him of raping Bosnian girls. When and where does his trial start?

You say that crime doesn't pay. Take your own advice and stop trying to steal Serbian land.

Peggy:
"The Serbs in RS were always a majority"

Wrong Peggy. The current shape caled "RS" covers ground where previously about half the population were non-Serb, especially the entire border region with Serbia, the Drina Valley. If Bosnian Serbs want independence, they will need to adjust and greatly reduce the border of the Serb republic.

If people here think RS and Kosova are similar, then Serbia should do the following:

Declare itself a new confederal state, consisting of new equal entities: the Serbian Federation, and Republika Albanska Kosova. Both these entities have equal numbers of votes and veto powers in the parliament and presidency. The whole state is officially a state of the "Serbian and Albanian peoples". Just to make sure the likeness with RS is even better, since 30% of people in Bosnia (Serbs) get 50% of the land as "RS", so ethnically cleanse Serbs from south Serbia up till Nis and add all that to "RAK" to get the proportions right.

Peggy Your example of MacKenzie is very misleading and wrong.He is a paid lobbyist for the serbs.You people must learn that crime doesn't pay.

"Are you comparing the position of Serbs in Bosnia to Hungarians in Vojvodina? The logical conclusion to your analogy is that the Serbs would be looking to take all of Bosnia..."

'Rade': I don't think the Serbs are trying to take over all of Bosnia & Herzegovina. Any longer. They tried and failed in the early 1990s.

Any comparison made between Bosnian Serbs and Vojvodina Hungarians was on the basis of Peggy's comment on the voting power of minority groups.

Simply Bosnian Serbs also "wouldn't get far even if they went to vote on it" in BiH.

It looks like the US is back in charge in Bosnia. Just notice how silent European diplomats are while Americans keep publishing statements in support of Lajcak.

It is my feeling that these Lajcak decisions are not the mistakes that they look, but that they have been painstakenly planned with US diplomats like Gregorian, English and Burns. This looks like a deliberate coup to change the balance of power in Bosnia.

http://nation-building.blogspot.com/2007/11/what-lajk-is-doing-wrong-in-bosnia.html

Kosovo is a historic region, RS is not! Get this fact into your heads and you will understand what the difference is. Also Sandzak is a historic region. Do you want Sandzak to split off from Serbia?

Well, if you guys think the Serbs in Bosnia should have independence (provided Albanians in Kosovo get one), why stop there? Why not grant independence to Muslims in Sandzak, Hungarians in Vojvodina, and every other group that seeks it. Besides, RS became majority Serbs ONLY after they killed/expelled everyone else. Does Srebrenica ring a bell??? I mean, you want independence in Bosnia, sure, but only after Serbs grant it to their minorities that seek it (including Sandzak), and only after borders are renegotiated, i.e. ethnically cleansed areas cannot be in Serbia (Srebrencia, Foca, Zvornik, etc).

EU and USA should be aware that after Kosovo Albanians right on self determination the same right is applicable on every ethnic group in this world including Serbs. There is no way to sell the fog naymore and underestimate peoples inteligence. The question is only which way do we choose, violence or peace to implement the right on self determination.

The difference between Lajcak and Burns and normal everyday citizen is that they truly believe saying something makes it true.

A unilateral change in Serbia's borders will effectively nullify the ideology that Dayton was based upon. Dayton will no longer make any sense.

Those that question Bosnia's settlement in the light of the hypocrisy of the EU/US/NATO position on Kosovo do so correctly. Kosovo was always part of Serbia.

Hasn't US support for Albanian independence on Kosovo been primarily based on the grounds that the people there do not want to live in Serbia, the will of the people must be respected, and that there is nothing that can be done to stop them from achieving independence?

If that's the case, why should US foreign policy be any different towards RS if the sentiment is the same?

Oh right, RS does nothing to further US strategic interests. Oops, my bad.

How long before we start writing "Good luck RS on your way"?

Jen, The Serbs in RS were ALWAYS the majority there so no ethnic cleansing happened. There are Muslims living there now, so where is this they were all expelled coming from? Enought of the CNN propaganda about Srebrenica. People on the ground like Gen. L. McKenzie have more credible information and they don't agree with that.

Vojvodina is not made up of Hungarian majority so even if they went to vote on it, it wouldn't get far.

Do you remember that Bosnia was NEVER Muslim. Bosnia was invaded by the Turks and converted some of the population to Islam. This does not entitle that population now to rule over the non Muslims. Bosnia is not a multicultural state. Serbian and Croatian input in the government is small so therefore double standards cannot apply.

Serbs have just as much right to self rule as anybody else. Muslims can have their part of Bosnia, Croatians their and Serbs their RS. More than fair, since Bosnia was never a Muslim country in the first place.

And neither does BiH have a Serb majority, so what is your point exactly?
(Alexander james, 19 November 2007 12:14)

'Alexander james', Are you comparing the position of Serbs in Bosnia to Hungarians in Vojvodina? The logical conclusion to your analogy is that the Serbs would be looking to take all of Bosnia...

One of the main differences between Republica serbska and Kosova is that RS was born out of aggression and genocide where as Kosova was a unit of federal Yugoslavia since it's birth.In other words Kosova's has been historicaly bordered by neigbors.When will the international finally make the serbs accountable for their aggresstion?I still believe that crime shouldn't pay and that includes the serbs getting even consideration for EU membership.Justice for the victims of serbs demands nothing less!

"Are you comparing the position of Serbs in Bosnia to Hungarians in Vojvodina? The logical conclusion to your analogy is that the Serbs would be looking to take all of Bosnia..."

'Rade': I don't think the Serbs are trying to take over all of Bosnia & Herzegovina. Any longer. They tried and failed in the early 1990s.

Any comparison made between Bosnian Serbs and Vojvodina Hungarians was on the basis of Peggy's comment on the voting power of minority groups.

Simply Bosnian Serbs also "wouldn't get far even if they went to vote on it" in BiH.

azir,
Kosovo's administrative boundary has only existed since 1974, when the new yugoslav constitution gave it autonomy. Then Kosovo became ethnically pure due to constant harassment of the serb population. So if you're going to say that RS ethnically cleansed its land, and albanians in Kosovo didn't, you are very mistaken.

Don't Lajcak and Burns realise how stupid their opinions are? The West has got to stop applying double standards.
Bosko

Peggy:
"The Serbs in RS were always a majority"

Wrong Peggy. The current shape caled "RS" covers ground where previously about half the population were non-Serb, especially the entire border region with Serbia, the Drina Valley. If Bosnian Serbs want independence, they will need to adjust and greatly reduce the border of the Serb republic.

If people here think RS and Kosova are similar, then Serbia should do the following:

Declare itself a new confederal state, consisting of new equal entities: the Serbian Federation, and Republika Albanska Kosova. Both these entities have equal numbers of votes and veto powers in the parliament and presidency. The whole state is officially a state of the "Serbian and Albanian peoples". Just to make sure the likeness with RS is even better, since 30% of people in Bosnia (Serbs) get 50% of the land as "RS", so ethnically cleanse Serbs from south Serbia up till Nis and add all that to "RAK" to get the proportions right.

"Enough of the CNN propaganda about Srebrenica. People on the ground like Gen. L. McKenzie have more credible information and they don't agree with that."

Peggy: Gen L. MacKenzie was not "on the ground" at the time of the Srebrenica genocide, having in fact left Bosnia & Herzegovina two years previously.

His Serb-funded rantings on the subject of Srebrenica are not considered credible by anyone who knows even the minimum of facts about what took place in Srebrenica in July 1995.

"Vojvodina is not made up of Hungarian majority so even if they went to vote on it, it wouldn't get far."

And neither does BiH have a Serb majority, so what is your point exactly?

Peggy Your example of MacKenzie is very misleading and wrong.He is a paid lobbyist for the serbs.You people must learn that crime doesn't pay.

Azir, General McKenzie a paid lobbyist for the Serbs??? Wow, where did you get that information from?
Please provide links to any credible sites on this.

I've also heard that the Bosnian Muslims have accused him of raping Bosnian girls. When and where does his trial start?

You say that crime doesn't pay. Take your own advice and stop trying to steal Serbian land.

It looks like the US is back in charge in Bosnia. Just notice how silent European diplomats are while Americans keep publishing statements in support of Lajcak.

It is my feeling that these Lajcak decisions are not the mistakes that they look, but that they have been painstakenly planned with US diplomats like Gregorian, English and Burns. This looks like a deliberate coup to change the balance of power in Bosnia.

http://nation-building.blogspot.com/2007/11/what-lajk-is-doing-wrong-in-bosnia.html