"U.S. position on Kosovo still unclear"

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Nations have no friends, only interests.

Recently Victor wrote...
"I completely agree with Kostunica on this conclusion that Kosovo is part of Serbia. The USA should not intervene and mind its own business. They act as if they were the 'Gendarme de la planète'.
(Victor, 9. September 2007 15:31)"

Oops...he changed his mind...again!
Victor's opinions change as quickly as the direction of the wind. Reminds me of the saying,"He is full of hot air".

Why am I not surprised?

come on guys, don´t fool yourselves.

do not write here what you want to believe that the american silence means... your personal wishes are not of interest.

otherwise we could declare this here as a kindergarden of desperate kids.


no, like it or not, there is something true in this article, the US have other interests, that at least for a reasonable viewer, should be more important to them.

so, after all, I wouldn´t count too much on them, if I were an Albanian!

and I would love to see how you want to create "unity" in regard to the kosovo-issue within the european union...

especially after the little small and so unimportant ( your words ) EU-member Cyprus clearly said it "will never recognize Kosovo"

let´s see what future brings.

I am confident.

US will not follow through with this. It is certain that the price they will pay for it will make them miserable. They wont be able to touch Iran.

Sure it is unclear, they are very silent in past few weeks. Before they have been using every possible chance to give statments in favour of independence. Now they are just silent and concerned of Kosovo having no economy.

Victor,

I understand you perfectly, hope is the only thing that makes person to keep up in life. I admit, it is very good for mental balancing. So, keep hoping!

Without Serbia's agreement, an 'independent' Kosovo will still be within Serbia's borders.

It will be a 'boil on the bum' which will endanger the politics of the region for many tens or hundreds of years.

The best future is an agreed and negotiated future based on cooperation and agreement.

I think even the US is beginning to realise this, although the UK seems to be behind in its thinking.

Certainly 'independence' will negate any obligations on Serbia over 1244 - I doubt too that the intervention forces will want to support Kosovo for long into the future if independence is declared without their permission.

Why am I not surprised also...what's the background of this mister KESIC?

Bush will force Kosovo out of Serbia. And then will tell Taiwan to stay in China!

Is this a joke or something?

Kosovo will be a huge predendent!

Do we really want more unrest in Bosnia, Caucasus, Sri Lanka, Spain, Belgium?

Some analysis!?
The US position can not be any clearer then having The President stating that he and his administartion support Kosova Independence.

There are analysts and there are analysts.
I dont know to wich group this Obrad guy, never heard of him, belongs to.

Sure it is unclear, they are very silent in past few weeks.»

The USA position has been always clear: independence.

The fact that the US are silent means only that they have enouigh of talkinh for nothing. When Dec. 10th comes, they will speak and will accept fully the independence of Kosovo.

Victor,
I understood
your desparate hope that Kosovo will gain independence. As I said, keep hoping it is good for mental balancing

The Albanians dismissed Cyprus out of hand.

There's a Turkish saying they should be familiar with. 'In every enemy that is an ant, behold an elephant.'

Kesic told us nothing new. He has just reworded previous US declaration with a bit of assertiveness in order to suit Serbian politicians claims. This should not discourage K-Albaians for their clam for freedom and right for Self-Determination.
It is known what EU will decide so US is going with that decision. US is doing this in order to make it look as if EU has decided and is united behind the decision Serbian politicians are once more on the loosing side before the final one that will come with Presevo, Bujanoc, Medvegja and Vojvodina secession.

I just wonder how are failed Serbian politicians going to accept this. Usually polticians are aware before the people of the future political decisions but this time again in Serbia people are more mature and more aware of the situation that the politicians seem to be.
This comment of Mr.Kesic is to be seen as one of many comments made by Serb paid analyst

Keep them guessing US and of balance !

«I understood your desparate hope that Kosovo will gain independence.»

Why should I feel desperate? Kosovo is not my country. I am just hopeful that all Albanians from Kosovo will never be again under Serbian rules, regarding what they have gone through between 1990 and 2000, until NATO set them free.

I hope that by Dec. 10th, they will be independent.

The key here is that in the end it will be Europes decision.

But that is not to say that the US isnt working behind the scenes to pressure EU states into supporting Kosovo independence.

Kesic is quite well connected in the US but obviously this isnt a revelation of any kind.

"EU-member Cyprus clearly said it will never recognize Kosovo"

I am losing so much sleep because insignificant Cyprus and Cuba won’t recognize Kosova!

Given that Kosova is such an emotional issue for the Serbs it is hardly surprising that Mr. Kesic would interpret things by looking on the bright side - for the Serbs. An Albanian would do exactly the same.

Nevertheless there is some truth to what he is saying. The US is distracted by events in the Middle East at the moment for it to be too much attention to Kosova and it has passed much of the responsibility on to Europe. In Europe itself (the EU) there are three schools of thought on Kosova.
One - Spain, Cyprus etc - holds that it should not receive independence. The second - led by Holland - says that Kosova deserves independence but it would not do to grant it independence because it's economy it would not be a viable state. The third led by the UK and France - and maybe, just maybe, Germany - says that supervised independence is the only solution. However all three schools are faced with one simple fact: the K-Albanians do not care about Hollands calcualtions on Kosova';s viability so how in the world can anyone give Kosova back to Serbia without causing a big, big mess in the whole region? And on that point all agree: allowing Serbia back into Kosova would be the sure way of guaranteeing a new war or conflict whose consequences would be impossible to predict.
The most likely scenario is that Kosova will declare independence, thus presenting the EU with a fait accompli and part of the Northern part of Kosova would then secede, i.e partition followed by a Serb blockade of the rest of Kosova. A new status quo would thus be established and in a few years we could move ahead from there. And I think that is what the Serb govt is playing at too, because no Serb politician in his/her right mind would ever dream or want to have Kosova as part of Serbia again.

UK is just sore since they lost Northern Ireland and Scotland just declared independance. I won't even mention Hong Kong. How humiliating. British finally found somebody weaker then UK.

No more than one decade ago, the US was a valued economy & respected super power. The entire world is waiting to see who replaces the embarassment of bush - hopefully it will not be another clinton as we can't deal with that again.

As far as the article in general - who really cares what the US has to say? Their credibility is in the toilet today.

What a difference 10 years makes!

«I understand you perfectly,»

What did you understand?

The title of this "news" itself is so stupid. USA is the promotor of Independence for Kosova since the Russians were cheering their drunken Yelcin. Someone is trying to be smart and create fictious events. That is so cute, isn't it?

Cvele, America should not go into war with Iran. In fact, I hope gallon of oil over here reaches 8$ so that America can finally be off this oil choke-hold; a praise to Europe for high tax on oil. Lesson learned.

Yeah, what a surprise! A serb ‘analyst’ reviving even the slightest doubt of serbs, that US would recognize the unilateral decision of Kosovo for declaring the independence. But that's fine. Politicans from both sides are comforting their people based on their interest, and you can go on and spend time on these kind of comments but i doubt any of you is right with your 'analysis'. Nobody knows the definite outcome of negotiations, so please save yourselves and your presious time from writing ridiculous comments and focus more in improving your inter-relations. Good luck to every party.

Some analysis!?
The US position can not be any clearer then having The President stating that he and his administartion support Kosova Independence.

There are analysts and there are analysts.
I dont know to wich group this Obrad guy, never heard of him, belongs to.

Why am I not surprised also...what's the background of this mister KESIC?

Kesic told us nothing new. He has just reworded previous US declaration with a bit of assertiveness in order to suit Serbian politicians claims. This should not discourage K-Albaians for their clam for freedom and right for Self-Determination.
It is known what EU will decide so US is going with that decision. US is doing this in order to make it look as if EU has decided and is united behind the decision Serbian politicians are once more on the loosing side before the final one that will come with Presevo, Bujanoc, Medvegja and Vojvodina secession.

I just wonder how are failed Serbian politicians going to accept this. Usually polticians are aware before the people of the future political decisions but this time again in Serbia people are more mature and more aware of the situation that the politicians seem to be.
This comment of Mr.Kesic is to be seen as one of many comments made by Serb paid analyst

Sure it is unclear, they are very silent in past few weeks.»

The USA position has been always clear: independence.

The fact that the US are silent means only that they have enouigh of talkinh for nothing. When Dec. 10th comes, they will speak and will accept fully the independence of Kosovo.

Keep them guessing US and of balance !

«I understand you perfectly,»

What did you understand?

"EU-member Cyprus clearly said it will never recognize Kosovo"

I am losing so much sleep because insignificant Cyprus and Cuba won’t recognize Kosova!

«I understood your desparate hope that Kosovo will gain independence.»

Why should I feel desperate? Kosovo is not my country. I am just hopeful that all Albanians from Kosovo will never be again under Serbian rules, regarding what they have gone through between 1990 and 2000, until NATO set them free.

I hope that by Dec. 10th, they will be independent.

The title of this "news" itself is so stupid. USA is the promotor of Independence for Kosova since the Russians were cheering their drunken Yelcin. Someone is trying to be smart and create fictious events. That is so cute, isn't it?

Victor,

I understand you perfectly, hope is the only thing that makes person to keep up in life. I admit, it is very good for mental balancing. So, keep hoping!

Yeah, what a surprise! A serb ‘analyst’ reviving even the slightest doubt of serbs, that US would recognize the unilateral decision of Kosovo for declaring the independence. But that's fine. Politicans from both sides are comforting their people based on their interest, and you can go on and spend time on these kind of comments but i doubt any of you is right with your 'analysis'. Nobody knows the definite outcome of negotiations, so please save yourselves and your presious time from writing ridiculous comments and focus more in improving your inter-relations. Good luck to every party.

Given that Kosova is such an emotional issue for the Serbs it is hardly surprising that Mr. Kesic would interpret things by looking on the bright side - for the Serbs. An Albanian would do exactly the same.

Nevertheless there is some truth to what he is saying. The US is distracted by events in the Middle East at the moment for it to be too much attention to Kosova and it has passed much of the responsibility on to Europe. In Europe itself (the EU) there are three schools of thought on Kosova.
One - Spain, Cyprus etc - holds that it should not receive independence. The second - led by Holland - says that Kosova deserves independence but it would not do to grant it independence because it's economy it would not be a viable state. The third led by the UK and France - and maybe, just maybe, Germany - says that supervised independence is the only solution. However all three schools are faced with one simple fact: the K-Albanians do not care about Hollands calcualtions on Kosova';s viability so how in the world can anyone give Kosova back to Serbia without causing a big, big mess in the whole region? And on that point all agree: allowing Serbia back into Kosova would be the sure way of guaranteeing a new war or conflict whose consequences would be impossible to predict.
The most likely scenario is that Kosova will declare independence, thus presenting the EU with a fait accompli and part of the Northern part of Kosova would then secede, i.e partition followed by a Serb blockade of the rest of Kosova. A new status quo would thus be established and in a few years we could move ahead from there. And I think that is what the Serb govt is playing at too, because no Serb politician in his/her right mind would ever dream or want to have Kosova as part of Serbia again.

Cvele, America should not go into war with Iran. In fact, I hope gallon of oil over here reaches 8$ so that America can finally be off this oil choke-hold; a praise to Europe for high tax on oil. Lesson learned.

Why am I not surprised?

Sure it is unclear, they are very silent in past few weeks. Before they have been using every possible chance to give statments in favour of independence. Now they are just silent and concerned of Kosovo having no economy.

The key here is that in the end it will be Europes decision.

But that is not to say that the US isnt working behind the scenes to pressure EU states into supporting Kosovo independence.

Kesic is quite well connected in the US but obviously this isnt a revelation of any kind.

Beware...
Nations have no friends, only interests.

Recently Victor wrote...
"I completely agree with Kostunica on this conclusion that Kosovo is part of Serbia. The USA should not intervene and mind its own business. They act as if they were the 'Gendarme de la planète'.
(Victor, 9. September 2007 15:31)"

Oops...he changed his mind...again!
Victor's opinions change as quickly as the direction of the wind. Reminds me of the saying,"He is full of hot air".

come on guys, don´t fool yourselves.

do not write here what you want to believe that the american silence means... your personal wishes are not of interest.

otherwise we could declare this here as a kindergarden of desperate kids.


no, like it or not, there is something true in this article, the US have other interests, that at least for a reasonable viewer, should be more important to them.

so, after all, I wouldn´t count too much on them, if I were an Albanian!

and I would love to see how you want to create "unity" in regard to the kosovo-issue within the european union...

especially after the little small and so unimportant ( your words ) EU-member Cyprus clearly said it "will never recognize Kosovo"

let´s see what future brings.

I am confident.

Victor,
I understood
your desparate hope that Kosovo will gain independence. As I said, keep hoping it is good for mental balancing

The Albanians dismissed Cyprus out of hand.

There's a Turkish saying they should be familiar with. 'In every enemy that is an ant, behold an elephant.'

US will not follow through with this. It is certain that the price they will pay for it will make them miserable. They wont be able to touch Iran.

Without Serbia's agreement, an 'independent' Kosovo will still be within Serbia's borders.

It will be a 'boil on the bum' which will endanger the politics of the region for many tens or hundreds of years.

The best future is an agreed and negotiated future based on cooperation and agreement.

I think even the US is beginning to realise this, although the UK seems to be behind in its thinking.

Certainly 'independence' will negate any obligations on Serbia over 1244 - I doubt too that the intervention forces will want to support Kosovo for long into the future if independence is declared without their permission.

UK is just sore since they lost Northern Ireland and Scotland just declared independance. I won't even mention Hong Kong. How humiliating. British finally found somebody weaker then UK.

Bush will force Kosovo out of Serbia. And then will tell Taiwan to stay in China!

Is this a joke or something?

Kosovo will be a huge predendent!

Do we really want more unrest in Bosnia, Caucasus, Sri Lanka, Spain, Belgium?

No more than one decade ago, the US was a valued economy & respected super power. The entire world is waiting to see who replaces the embarassment of bush - hopefully it will not be another clinton as we can't deal with that again.

As far as the article in general - who really cares what the US has to say? Their credibility is in the toilet today.

What a difference 10 years makes!