Jeremić: Two scenarios likely after Dec. 10

lenard, what are you talking about? Do you know that albanians strated the war with cowardly terrorist attacks on Serb police and civillians? Why did they kill these innocent people? They were doing it on purpose because they knew Serbia was going to retaliate. Their whole goal was to provoke the Serbs.


I remember bombs being put at Serbian cafes by albanian terrorists. Did you think Serbia was just going to let albanians to continue killing innocent people?

So when when you are wondering about those values, you should be informed how albanians were the one to brake those values.

Where were the Europeans values threw the 90s in Serbia. I guess Serbia was practicing its own values on its defenseless neighbors. I guess they still don't include the values righting the wrongs done to their neighbors. It is some talk they heard some where that they think people and the world wood like to hear with out putting any substance behind the talk. Like the old saying.. talk is cheap. Unless you use it to rile up hot heads ,red necks to murder their neighbors ,ethnic cleans them not to treat them as human and as a people.

lenard,

left aside that you´re trying to point the fingers on others in order to put the blame away from yourselves...

just one little update:

we do not live in the nineties, wake up!

it´s the 21st century, what means that you should look for a new argumentation!
( although I can hardly imagine any arguments for the illegal land-grab in 2007... you lose. )

"Only then the Albanian side would understand that something has to be given and abandon its positions," Jeremić said

this second scenario is a fairy tale..
how in hell he thinks Albanians will give something to serbia. It's not morally and logically justifiable for us. If we give our freedom away, then we are not Albanians.
Again to serbs camp in here, they must understand that our INDEPENDENCE is not up to our negotiating team.

"They will not bring us freedom, because freedom is among us" said a hero.

The Albanians, KLA, started the war by killing Serb police, Serb civilians and Albanians that didn't want to be part of their terror. Every nation has the right to protect itself from terror. Look at Macedonia, they are doing a great job in eleminating Albanian terrorists!

Ratko,

I am sure if do not gain independence or have no green light from the relevant factors,they will induce new war in order to provoke Serbs. They will try the same scenario with Soutern part of Serbia in order to compensate for the loss of Northern Kosovo which is de facto and I dare to say de jure independent. However, southern part of Serbia, Presevo valley is well protected. But I am glad that Serbs are gentlemen first of all and have all institutins needed that make one society. I am sure that A-Kosovars would like to have own military officiers and foreign minister addressing them. But they don't have it and wont have it for a long time

Ratko!

Oh so we started all this, the poor Serbs were the victim by Albanian terror and Serbia had to do smth about it... you mean like killing 10.000 innocent Albanian ppl (above 2000 ppl are still missing TODAY!!), burning Albanian homes, cultural buildings, religius places, schools and destroyed interly Kosova's infrastucture!

Does anyone think that the audiance believed him what he was saying? He thinks that he is funny. Is he?))We don't know whether he is short or long-sighted...when it comes to politics)

«They were doing it on purpose because they knew Serbia was going to retaliate.»

Ratko,

Usually a State does not behave like alleged terrorists, and retaliates only on the terrorists on not helpless civilians.

I have in mind all those villages where the policemen and the soldiers cracked on the civilians killing dozens of them every time.

A responsible State does not behave like this, and takes the measures to arrest those who do not respect the laws.

AlboSwe, there was documentry on, I think, History channel a few years ago on Milosevic. A KLA member admited to throwing granades into a packed Serbian cafe. The reason he said was to prevoke the Serbs to retaliate so the K-Albanians can get world sympathy & support. This was 1 of many attacks against the Serbs in KosovO. The KLA killed some of those 10k albanian victims & staged the exodus to gain world sympathy. And those same people that destroyed their homes, villages, and lives are their leaders. Their so blinded with independence that they can't see that their leaders are the same people that brought this on them.

Ratko: I'm not just talking about Albanians or Kosovo. That includes Bosnia ,Croatia to a certain point Slovenia ,Vojvodina and all the minorities that were horribly murdered mistreated. Those cowards that planted bombs in cafes and murdered civilians in cold blood. Should be tracked down and shown the same mercy that they showed to there victims.

"I remember bombs being put at Serbian cafes by albanian terrorists. Did you think Serbia was just going to let albanians to continue killing innocent people? "

As I remember it, Belgrade sent in 45000 soldiers and thousands of armaments to literally kick out 1 million Albanians. Is this how Serbia handles the murders of Police or a bomb in a serbian cafe? Well, today someone threw a bomb in a car injuring a couple of SErbs clubbers. Will Belgrade send in 45000 soldiers to kick out 1 million of the 2 Belgraders? lol..your logic is more than flawed, it shows you have a distinct anti social way about you, if you believe what Belgrade did to Kosova in 98-99 was justified. This clearly shows the psychotic tendencies of a madman who couldn't get his way. He lost all the republics of FRY and in kosova he showed us how madmen go down in flames.

As for two possible scenarios after Dec 10, it will most likely go like this, Serbia signs on to Ahtissari's plan and it passes at the UN the same month or on January 08, Kosova will take their seats as the latest member of the UN. The US and EU reps have both repeated to the Serbs that going back to 99 or prior will NEVER happen. Seems like Serbs will probably deny that this was ever said to them and even if they do, they'll probably deny those are K Albanians sitting at the Kosova Seat. :) Just like how they continue denying they lost the Kosova battle and celebrate 1389.

Deep within the US office in Pristina comes word that the German government is now completely on board for a unilateral declaration. With this, the powers that be are in unison within the EU. The date being mentioned is 15 Dec 2007. Russian UN employees have been told recently That the UN mission is very close to its end. At least one Pillar of UN employees are scambling to complete EU employment applications.

"ready for a flexible approach to finding a compromise solution to Kosovo and Metohija while preserving sovereignty and territorial integrity, and in that way preserving stability in the region and in the world."

There so many things wrong with what Jeremic says here, that I don't wanna even bother commenting. One thing seems to be true though. Jeremic is turning everyday into a devout disciple of Nostradamus predicting world chaos and Armagedon. I can't figure out whether this is tragic or funny for this young man, maybe he's just melodramatic by nature.

The Albanians, KLA, started the war by killing Serb police, Serb civilians and Albanians that didn't want to be part of their terror. Every nation has the right to protect itself from terror. Look at Macedonia, they are doing a great job in eleminating Albanian terrorists!
(James, 11. November 2007 18:37)

James or Ratko, whatever name you want to go by today, lighten up. Catching criminals isn't the same as "terrorists" as you claim. If you call the Macedonian incident "terrorism" than you have never seen what happens on L.A, NY, STL, etc.

You label anything terrorism that is non-Serbian but you never seem to blame your leaders (religious or political).

'Jeremic'
The two DEFINITE options are:
-Kosovars gain full independence
-Kosovars never accept to share a country with serbia

everything else is irrelevant to Kosova.

AlboSwe

It is well established fact that 10,000 people were killed by KLA terrorists and Nato bombs. Nato quitely apolgized to victim families. In fact no Serb has ever been convicted for any crimes in Kosovo. Hague could not even convict Slobodan Milosevic for lack of evidence. They waited till he died rather then release him.

«In fact no Serb has ever been convicted for any crimes in Kosovo. »

This is not true! Here are the names of Serbs convicted of war crimes in Kosovo:

.Sasa Cvjetan has been sentenced for 20 years in jail for the massacre of 19 civilians in Podujevo, in March 1999;

. Dejan Demirovic was deported from Canada for the same crime and released;

.Ivan Nikolic, 30, was convicted over the killing of two Kosovo Albanians in 1999 in a village located between the northern Kosovo town of Podujevo and the capital Pristina.

It is well established fact that 10,000 people were killed by KLA terrorists and Nato bombs. Nato quitely apolgized to victim families. In fact no Serb has ever been convicted for any crimes in Kosovo. Hague could not even convict Slobodan Milosevic for lack of evidence. They waited till he died rather then release him.
(Billy Boy, 12. November 2007 07:18)

Then we have these that come from the future, and can say anything for the past since they never lived it anyway. This person is trying to tell me who killed my relatives even though I saw it with my own two eyes. I guess I must have been fooled.

Ratko!

Oh so we started all this, the poor Serbs were the victim by Albanian terror and Serbia had to do smth about it... you mean like killing 10.000 innocent Albanian ppl (above 2000 ppl are still missing TODAY!!), burning Albanian homes, cultural buildings, religius places, schools and destroyed interly Kosova's infrastucture!

Where were the Europeans values threw the 90s in Serbia. I guess Serbia was practicing its own values on its defenseless neighbors. I guess they still don't include the values righting the wrongs done to their neighbors. It is some talk they heard some where that they think people and the world wood like to hear with out putting any substance behind the talk. Like the old saying.. talk is cheap. Unless you use it to rile up hot heads ,red necks to murder their neighbors ,ethnic cleans them not to treat them as human and as a people.

Does anyone think that the audiance believed him what he was saying? He thinks that he is funny. Is he?))We don't know whether he is short or long-sighted...when it comes to politics)

lenard, what are you talking about? Do you know that albanians strated the war with cowardly terrorist attacks on Serb police and civillians? Why did they kill these innocent people? They were doing it on purpose because they knew Serbia was going to retaliate. Their whole goal was to provoke the Serbs.


I remember bombs being put at Serbian cafes by albanian terrorists. Did you think Serbia was just going to let albanians to continue killing innocent people?

So when when you are wondering about those values, you should be informed how albanians were the one to brake those values.

"Only then the Albanian side would understand that something has to be given and abandon its positions," Jeremić said

this second scenario is a fairy tale..
how in hell he thinks Albanians will give something to serbia. It's not morally and logically justifiable for us. If we give our freedom away, then we are not Albanians.
Again to serbs camp in here, they must understand that our INDEPENDENCE is not up to our negotiating team.

"They will not bring us freedom, because freedom is among us" said a hero.

«They were doing it on purpose because they knew Serbia was going to retaliate.»

Ratko,

Usually a State does not behave like alleged terrorists, and retaliates only on the terrorists on not helpless civilians.

I have in mind all those villages where the policemen and the soldiers cracked on the civilians killing dozens of them every time.

A responsible State does not behave like this, and takes the measures to arrest those who do not respect the laws.

lenard,

left aside that you´re trying to point the fingers on others in order to put the blame away from yourselves...

just one little update:

we do not live in the nineties, wake up!

it´s the 21st century, what means that you should look for a new argumentation!
( although I can hardly imagine any arguments for the illegal land-grab in 2007... you lose. )

"I remember bombs being put at Serbian cafes by albanian terrorists. Did you think Serbia was just going to let albanians to continue killing innocent people? "

As I remember it, Belgrade sent in 45000 soldiers and thousands of armaments to literally kick out 1 million Albanians. Is this how Serbia handles the murders of Police or a bomb in a serbian cafe? Well, today someone threw a bomb in a car injuring a couple of SErbs clubbers. Will Belgrade send in 45000 soldiers to kick out 1 million of the 2 Belgraders? lol..your logic is more than flawed, it shows you have a distinct anti social way about you, if you believe what Belgrade did to Kosova in 98-99 was justified. This clearly shows the psychotic tendencies of a madman who couldn't get his way. He lost all the republics of FRY and in kosova he showed us how madmen go down in flames.

As for two possible scenarios after Dec 10, it will most likely go like this, Serbia signs on to Ahtissari's plan and it passes at the UN the same month or on January 08, Kosova will take their seats as the latest member of the UN. The US and EU reps have both repeated to the Serbs that going back to 99 or prior will NEVER happen. Seems like Serbs will probably deny that this was ever said to them and even if they do, they'll probably deny those are K Albanians sitting at the Kosova Seat. :) Just like how they continue denying they lost the Kosova battle and celebrate 1389.

Ratko: I'm not just talking about Albanians or Kosovo. That includes Bosnia ,Croatia to a certain point Slovenia ,Vojvodina and all the minorities that were horribly murdered mistreated. Those cowards that planted bombs in cafes and murdered civilians in cold blood. Should be tracked down and shown the same mercy that they showed to there victims.

"ready for a flexible approach to finding a compromise solution to Kosovo and Metohija while preserving sovereignty and territorial integrity, and in that way preserving stability in the region and in the world."

There so many things wrong with what Jeremic says here, that I don't wanna even bother commenting. One thing seems to be true though. Jeremic is turning everyday into a devout disciple of Nostradamus predicting world chaos and Armagedon. I can't figure out whether this is tragic or funny for this young man, maybe he's just melodramatic by nature.

'Jeremic'
The two DEFINITE options are:
-Kosovars gain full independence
-Kosovars never accept to share a country with serbia

everything else is irrelevant to Kosova.

Deep within the US office in Pristina comes word that the German government is now completely on board for a unilateral declaration. With this, the powers that be are in unison within the EU. The date being mentioned is 15 Dec 2007. Russian UN employees have been told recently That the UN mission is very close to its end. At least one Pillar of UN employees are scambling to complete EU employment applications.

Ratko,

I am sure if do not gain independence or have no green light from the relevant factors,they will induce new war in order to provoke Serbs. They will try the same scenario with Soutern part of Serbia in order to compensate for the loss of Northern Kosovo which is de facto and I dare to say de jure independent. However, southern part of Serbia, Presevo valley is well protected. But I am glad that Serbs are gentlemen first of all and have all institutins needed that make one society. I am sure that A-Kosovars would like to have own military officiers and foreign minister addressing them. But they don't have it and wont have it for a long time

The Albanians, KLA, started the war by killing Serb police, Serb civilians and Albanians that didn't want to be part of their terror. Every nation has the right to protect itself from terror. Look at Macedonia, they are doing a great job in eleminating Albanian terrorists!

AlboSwe, there was documentry on, I think, History channel a few years ago on Milosevic. A KLA member admited to throwing granades into a packed Serbian cafe. The reason he said was to prevoke the Serbs to retaliate so the K-Albanians can get world sympathy & support. This was 1 of many attacks against the Serbs in KosovO. The KLA killed some of those 10k albanian victims & staged the exodus to gain world sympathy. And those same people that destroyed their homes, villages, and lives are their leaders. Their so blinded with independence that they can't see that their leaders are the same people that brought this on them.

The Albanians, KLA, started the war by killing Serb police, Serb civilians and Albanians that didn't want to be part of their terror. Every nation has the right to protect itself from terror. Look at Macedonia, they are doing a great job in eleminating Albanian terrorists!
(James, 11. November 2007 18:37)

James or Ratko, whatever name you want to go by today, lighten up. Catching criminals isn't the same as "terrorists" as you claim. If you call the Macedonian incident "terrorism" than you have never seen what happens on L.A, NY, STL, etc.

You label anything terrorism that is non-Serbian but you never seem to blame your leaders (religious or political).

AlboSwe

It is well established fact that 10,000 people were killed by KLA terrorists and Nato bombs. Nato quitely apolgized to victim families. In fact no Serb has ever been convicted for any crimes in Kosovo. Hague could not even convict Slobodan Milosevic for lack of evidence. They waited till he died rather then release him.

«In fact no Serb has ever been convicted for any crimes in Kosovo. »

This is not true! Here are the names of Serbs convicted of war crimes in Kosovo:

.Sasa Cvjetan has been sentenced for 20 years in jail for the massacre of 19 civilians in Podujevo, in March 1999;

. Dejan Demirovic was deported from Canada for the same crime and released;

.Ivan Nikolic, 30, was convicted over the killing of two Kosovo Albanians in 1999 in a village located between the northern Kosovo town of Podujevo and the capital Pristina.

It is well established fact that 10,000 people were killed by KLA terrorists and Nato bombs. Nato quitely apolgized to victim families. In fact no Serb has ever been convicted for any crimes in Kosovo. Hague could not even convict Slobodan Milosevic for lack of evidence. They waited till he died rather then release him.
(Billy Boy, 12. November 2007 07:18)

Then we have these that come from the future, and can say anything for the past since they never lived it anyway. This person is trying to tell me who killed my relatives even though I saw it with my own two eyes. I guess I must have been fooled.