Exhumation of Srebrenica mass grave site

There is no identifications and Kamenica was a village where Serbs were killed by Muslim troops. All the evidence is kept by the Muslims and international community - when are Serbs allowed to see the evidence and do DNA tests against the findings? In addition there were a greater number of killings in WWI and WWII in Bosnia and these could possible be bodies from those eras - just as in Slovenia, Croatia and other places they are still finding WWII bodies.

I welcome this development and wish it had occured sooner.

The relatives of victims must be allowed to close this sorry chapter in their lives and bury their loved ones.

This (and subsequent) exhumations will also help to ascertain a more accurate number of dead in Srebrenica and wider afield.

As we all know numbers are mercilessly abused for politcal reasons and it is important to establish accurate figures.

May I also add that I hope that more victims of all nationalities will be located allowing relative some (even just a little) peace.

Twelve years after the genocide in Bosnia, and almost every month mass graves are found. And Seselj at the ICTY asserts that not more than 1000 prisoners of war have been eliminated, and so far more than 5000 have been found, and possible just as many corpses will be found in the years to come.

Bad Gorilla and Victor,

I commend you on your objectivity on this sensitive issue. It is people like you that Serbia requires to lead it into prosperity and reconciliation.

Arguing that the victims are from WWII graves is ludicrous. I suggest that Ida reads up on forensics and victim identification which has been a real scientific basis. Such assumptions, as made by Ida, are dangerous and emphasize the backward ideologies that created the unfortunate atrocities of the recent Balkan wars.

TO VICTOR -

You have every right to post what you wish, but as mentioned in my prior posts & by evidence through your words - you have NO credibility.

War is atrocious, but on the other side of the coin to have a pro-Croatian individual such as yourself cause a raucous wanting only to gain supporters against the Serbs is the same mentality that was used by the Croats during WWII.

Please think about what you are typing prior to submission. You have Gotovina who is an enemy to the Serbs & ANY person of ethnicity, so quite honestly, your views (based on your posts) do not hold water. Additionally, your country holds Ceku whom the invaders cheer & support, but is a coward who won't live among his own people he "fought" for.

Finally, Kamenica is/was a SERB village, Victor. So, let's see which cards are dealt!

«...you have NO credibility. »

Such an assumption coming from you, as would have said Voltaire, is a compliment.

Among the Serbs writing on this forum, who have credibility? Listening to them, all the Serb war criminals actually at the Hague are being detained illegally?

All the corpses found in mass graves are from WW1 or WW2 or possibly the corpses of animals being dumped there!

All the massacres, killings and ethnic cleansing are western pure fabrication to incriminate the Serbs, as Seselj also said in court yesterday.

Finally, what we read often here can be summed up in this phrase: the Serbs are the victims and the Croats and Muslims are the abusers and the criminals.

Credibility, you say!!

«The victims are Muslims killed in 1995, according to the Tuzla prosecutor’s office. »

The article is very clear: the corpses are Muslims killed in 1996, and not Serbs who were well protected by Mladic's troops.

Come on, Ida, try to be objective and read the statements for what they are.

Ida, the crimes of the past cannot be used to justify the crimes of present…

Ida wrote: "...In addition there were a greater number of killings in WWI and WWII in Bosnia and these could possible be bodies from those eras ...".
Ida, do not make me laugh.
It is easy to verify if the corpses being exhumed nowadays are victims of WWI, or of 1991-1995 war.
As a human being I feel offended by your post.

«As a human being I feel offended by your post.
(massimo, 9. November 2007 10:13)»

Mssimo,

Ida is especially offensive because she is virtually an apologist for war crimes.

I honestly believe that she should be banned from this forum. Not only is she a revisionnist of all Serbian crimes, she is also a negativist, sor the simple reason that she is very negative about all Serbian crimes during the wars in the Balkans. In her opinion, only the Croats and the Muslims have committed crimes against helpless Serbs.

To Victor -

Say what you wish, history has proven your posts to be less than credible.

I'm pointing the finger at YOU & your lack of credibility. For you to go one step further & state the following:

Finally, what we read often here can be summed up in this phrase: the Serbs are the victims and the Croats and Muslims are the abusers and the criminals.

Please define: "we". For you to put the proud Serbians in this shallow minded definition is to show how you are.

You should not be the one throwing stones in glass houses as you will be very cold in the upcoming winter!

CCCC

Well,reading the article and comments as well trying to understand everyone point of view,can't help but thinking how about asking us bosnians what do we think??
Hate to admit most of us who has been there we are quiet,like there is nothing to say,or maybe we are just tiredof others judging,and justifing things that happend.War is hell on earth,it tend to be over,but hatred stays,people cannot be objective and that is scary,as bosnian i know there are people that deserve answers,no one decerve to be "cleansed"and those bosnians today should finally be free...i have serbian friends who i love dearly if smeone commit crimes against their people of course i am first to condemn those,they do not represent me,also i know that my serbian friens feel the same concerning me and my people...all others consumed with balkan virus are none of my concern i just wish them to open their eyes and hearts and became one of those who would never let this happen again.No crimes should ever be justified by other crime,you cannot take someone's life unless you are able to give it back.Poor are those people found in graves,and those left behind who are missing them...right now everything else is beside the point..I am proud to be bosnian,i am happy to be here today alive able to make my dreams come true,my heart goes to those who didn't get the same chance.All others should refrain themselves of judging something if they are not able to understand,let us grieve,and forgive,move on.If we posess strength to do it,so should you..People who commited the crimes are common criminals hiding behind lost causes and ideology,they should be held responsibile for their actions,for me that war is over,lessons learned to love life more than before.There is only hope that my homeland will be place for everyone,home to go back to,with all of us in it,muslim,serbs,croats,all others,without fear that we might get hurt in next 50 years,whether others learned anything time will show..So goodbye all of you,stop blame shifting,pulling out reasons,there are none,who knows what is going trough the mind of someone who order the deaths of people and simply bury them in their own ground,burn their lives,memories,schools,mosques,churches...list neverending..So don't give those people reason to belive that they did the right thing,cause they certanly didn't..
love from bosnia..

Twelve years after the genocide in Bosnia, and almost every month mass graves are found. And Seselj at the ICTY asserts that not more than 1000 prisoners of war have been eliminated, and so far more than 5000 have been found, and possible just as many corpses will be found in the years to come.

There is no identifications and Kamenica was a village where Serbs were killed by Muslim troops. All the evidence is kept by the Muslims and international community - when are Serbs allowed to see the evidence and do DNA tests against the findings? In addition there were a greater number of killings in WWI and WWII in Bosnia and these could possible be bodies from those eras - just as in Slovenia, Croatia and other places they are still finding WWII bodies.

«As a human being I feel offended by your post.
(massimo, 9. November 2007 10:13)»

Mssimo,

Ida is especially offensive because she is virtually an apologist for war crimes.

I honestly believe that she should be banned from this forum. Not only is she a revisionnist of all Serbian crimes, she is also a negativist, sor the simple reason that she is very negative about all Serbian crimes during the wars in the Balkans. In her opinion, only the Croats and the Muslims have committed crimes against helpless Serbs.

To Victor -

Say what you wish, history has proven your posts to be less than credible.

I'm pointing the finger at YOU & your lack of credibility. For you to go one step further & state the following:

Finally, what we read often here can be summed up in this phrase: the Serbs are the victims and the Croats and Muslims are the abusers and the criminals.

Please define: "we". For you to put the proud Serbians in this shallow minded definition is to show how you are.

You should not be the one throwing stones in glass houses as you will be very cold in the upcoming winter!

CCCC

«The victims are Muslims killed in 1995, according to the Tuzla prosecutor’s office. »

The article is very clear: the corpses are Muslims killed in 1996, and not Serbs who were well protected by Mladic's troops.

Come on, Ida, try to be objective and read the statements for what they are.

Ida, the crimes of the past cannot be used to justify the crimes of present…

Ida wrote: "...In addition there were a greater number of killings in WWI and WWII in Bosnia and these could possible be bodies from those eras ...".
Ida, do not make me laugh.
It is easy to verify if the corpses being exhumed nowadays are victims of WWI, or of 1991-1995 war.
As a human being I feel offended by your post.

«...you have NO credibility. »

Such an assumption coming from you, as would have said Voltaire, is a compliment.

Among the Serbs writing on this forum, who have credibility? Listening to them, all the Serb war criminals actually at the Hague are being detained illegally?

All the corpses found in mass graves are from WW1 or WW2 or possibly the corpses of animals being dumped there!

All the massacres, killings and ethnic cleansing are western pure fabrication to incriminate the Serbs, as Seselj also said in court yesterday.

Finally, what we read often here can be summed up in this phrase: the Serbs are the victims and the Croats and Muslims are the abusers and the criminals.

Credibility, you say!!

I welcome this development and wish it had occured sooner.

The relatives of victims must be allowed to close this sorry chapter in their lives and bury their loved ones.

This (and subsequent) exhumations will also help to ascertain a more accurate number of dead in Srebrenica and wider afield.

As we all know numbers are mercilessly abused for politcal reasons and it is important to establish accurate figures.

May I also add that I hope that more victims of all nationalities will be located allowing relative some (even just a little) peace.

Bad Gorilla and Victor,

I commend you on your objectivity on this sensitive issue. It is people like you that Serbia requires to lead it into prosperity and reconciliation.

Arguing that the victims are from WWII graves is ludicrous. I suggest that Ida reads up on forensics and victim identification which has been a real scientific basis. Such assumptions, as made by Ida, are dangerous and emphasize the backward ideologies that created the unfortunate atrocities of the recent Balkan wars.

TO VICTOR -

You have every right to post what you wish, but as mentioned in my prior posts & by evidence through your words - you have NO credibility.

War is atrocious, but on the other side of the coin to have a pro-Croatian individual such as yourself cause a raucous wanting only to gain supporters against the Serbs is the same mentality that was used by the Croats during WWII.

Please think about what you are typing prior to submission. You have Gotovina who is an enemy to the Serbs & ANY person of ethnicity, so quite honestly, your views (based on your posts) do not hold water. Additionally, your country holds Ceku whom the invaders cheer & support, but is a coward who won't live among his own people he "fought" for.

Finally, Kamenica is/was a SERB village, Victor. So, let's see which cards are dealt!

Well,reading the article and comments as well trying to understand everyone point of view,can't help but thinking how about asking us bosnians what do we think??
Hate to admit most of us who has been there we are quiet,like there is nothing to say,or maybe we are just tiredof others judging,and justifing things that happend.War is hell on earth,it tend to be over,but hatred stays,people cannot be objective and that is scary,as bosnian i know there are people that deserve answers,no one decerve to be "cleansed"and those bosnians today should finally be free...i have serbian friends who i love dearly if smeone commit crimes against their people of course i am first to condemn those,they do not represent me,also i know that my serbian friens feel the same concerning me and my people...all others consumed with balkan virus are none of my concern i just wish them to open their eyes and hearts and became one of those who would never let this happen again.No crimes should ever be justified by other crime,you cannot take someone's life unless you are able to give it back.Poor are those people found in graves,and those left behind who are missing them...right now everything else is beside the point..I am proud to be bosnian,i am happy to be here today alive able to make my dreams come true,my heart goes to those who didn't get the same chance.All others should refrain themselves of judging something if they are not able to understand,let us grieve,and forgive,move on.If we posess strength to do it,so should you..People who commited the crimes are common criminals hiding behind lost causes and ideology,they should be held responsibile for their actions,for me that war is over,lessons learned to love life more than before.There is only hope that my homeland will be place for everyone,home to go back to,with all of us in it,muslim,serbs,croats,all others,without fear that we might get hurt in next 50 years,whether others learned anything time will show..So goodbye all of you,stop blame shifting,pulling out reasons,there are none,who knows what is going trough the mind of someone who order the deaths of people and simply bury them in their own ground,burn their lives,memories,schools,mosques,churches...list neverending..So don't give those people reason to belive that they did the right thing,cause they certanly didn't..
love from bosnia..