Kosovo's independence would spell crisis in Serbia – Tadić

"Some believe that stability of two million Albanians in Kosovo is more important than instability of ten million Serbs," said Tadić.

Then why do you keep bothering us, ethnically cleansing us, killing us if you are so concerned about your stability in Serbia Mr. Tadic.

So according to you Mr. Tadic the Serbs are more important people than Albanians. According to you Mr. Tadic the Serbs deserve to be stable while the Albanians don't; who cares about Albanians anyways.
According to you Mr. Tadic the ultranationalist will come to power if Kosova/o declares independence. Well if that's the case and you lose your power that's the choice of the Serbian people. They are free to choose who they want, regardless of what happens in Kosova/o.
Correct me if I'm wrong Mr. Tadic but didn't the ultranationalist party win more popular votes than any other party even though as Serbs see it Kosova/o is still under Serbia? So what is all this fuss about ultranationalistic future scenarios, when the ultranationalist are already the present in Serbia.
Also Mr. Tadic you should get informed better. There's about 7 million Albanians in the Balkans. Their stability depends on the stability of Kosva/o Albanians.

Stay firm on this. People all over the world are working hard to stop the illegal independence of Kosovo!

"Some believe that stability of two million Albanians in Kosovo is more important than instability of ten million Serbs," said Tadić.

It's difficult to follow the reasoning of Mr. Tadic. On the one hand, he makes a comparison between 2 million Albanians in Kosovo and 10 millions in Serbia, but he does not say a word about 100 000 Serbs in Kosovo compared with 2 million Albanians.

I think Mr Tadic is trying to create a diversion by presenting possible scenario of horror. I am sure that nothing of this will happen. After all, I am quite sure that a majority of Serbs in Serbia don't give a dawm about the independence of Kosovo.

I think Serb leadership is not doing a favor to Serbia with comments like this. The only message that the western world (decision-makers) will get from this is that Serbia has not yet shied away from backward nationalism of Milosevic era, and as such is not compatible with western values of tolerance, and respect for human rights.

Why would anyone care if Serbia becomes chaotic? You cannot appease greedy appetites who want to conquer their neighboring countries on the threat that they will be chaotic otherwise. They can be as problematic as they want WITHIN their country. Empirically speaking, it never turned well for Serbia when it tried to stir trouble elsewhere - it got bombed again and again... and nothing will avoid the same outcome yet again.

A quick advise for Serb leadership - stop feeding nationalist dreams, because nowhere in the world do systems based on such aspirations survive. Turn towards the EU and improve the life of those people that you are chosen to lead not mislead into believing in miracles such as retaking Kosovo.

Victor: "It's difficult to follow the reasoning of Mr. Tadic. On the one hand, he makes a comparison between 2 million Albanians in Kosovo and 10 millions in Serbia, but he does not say a word about 100 000 Serbs in Kosovo compared with 2 million Albanians."

Yes, Victor, because one is a minority within a sovereign state and the other is a minority within one province of their own sovereign state.

The difference is huge.

I have never seen the Serbian team in a such panic. The policy of scaremongering doesn't work anymore Mr Tadic. Any future problem with the ethic minorities in Kosova it will be because of your instigations to destibilise the region at any coost. Your appeals are similar to those of your previous leader Slobodan Milosevic warning the world about the consequences of Yugoslavia, and the intervention of NATO in Kosova. Nothing will stop the Kosova INDEPENDENCE. It is absoultely stupid to link the future and prospects of two million Kosovar Albanians with those of Serbia's. That would be one more reason why Kosova should be freed from the Serbian rule once and for all. Enough is enough!

Jen,
There wil be lots of partying indeed if 'greater albania' is unilaterally recognized. Do you know where? In Republika Srpska, which will declare independence immediately based on the 'Kosovo Precedent' - remember those words. In addition, North Mitrovica is in Serb control and will remain that way. Russia, who is surging and in the mood to get back at the US, will delight in recognizing Republika Srpska. Russians will also be partying when they take back parts of the former Soviet Union who want to join her again, all based on the 'Kosovo Precedent'. So, yes, you are right, there will be lots of partying, ALL over the world when everyone starts declaring independence. Whether you will be one of those people partying, I don't know, but exchanging 2 million ungrateful albanians for 2 million ecstatic Serbs in Republika Srpska, and keeping the North Mitrovica pocket - I do think Serbs will be the ones celebrating the most, along with Putin. I can just see Vladimir Putin daring the Americans, 'Go ahead, make my day', a la Clint Eastwood. He has checkmated them, and they know it.

People (2004 est.)
Nationality: Noun--Serb(s); adjective--Serbian.
Population (2002 Republic census): Serbia (not including Kosovo) 7,478,820.
Population growth rate: -3.5%.
Ethnic groups (2002 population census, without Kosovo): Serbian 83%, Hungarian 4%, Bosnian 2%, Albanian 1%, Montenegrin 1%, other 9%.
Religions (2002 population census, without Kosovo): Orthodox 85%, Roman Catholic 5.5%, Muslim 3%, Protestant 1%, other 5.5%.
Languages: Serbian 88%, Hungarian 3.8%, Bosnian 2%, Albanian 1%, others 5%.
Health: Infant mortality rate--8.1 deaths/1,000. Life expectancy--males 72.44 yrs., female 77.86 yrs.


So if in 2002 without Kosova Serbia had 7 million people (with -3.5% growth) how in hell did it grow 3 million people in 5 years (with a NEGATIVE GROWTH RATE)?

Do you see why it is hard for NON-Serbian to take Serbia or its' "politicians" seriously?

The Serbian leaders are childish.

Tadic says that the "stability" of 10 million Serbs somehow is more important than the stability of 2 million Albanians.

Obiously, we Albanians think otherwise.

It is clear that Serbs themselves would be the perpetrators of any violence this time around. The fact that they themselves would be the victims can only please those us who have previously suffered from their attempts to recreate the medieval Serbia.

Albanians have not in the past, and do not intend to in the future, go into Serbia and stir things up. It has always been Serb soldiers beating Albanian civilians, not the other way round.

So there is no reason why 2 million Albanians should be sacrificed to please a nation that keeps producing conflict and war, ever since it gained independence in 1878.

There may be 2 million Albanians in Kosovo today. This is partly because of illegal migration across the Albanian border, and because of demographic changes. However, there are nearly a 1000 Serbian mediival churches, monasteries and Orthodox holy sites in Kosovo dating back to the 12th century. We cannot move these physical structures to Serbia. But we can move Albanians to Albania which is where they belong. Tens of millions of people have been moved and resettled between Turkey and Greece after the First World War, between India and Pakistan after the paritition of British India,, and in Yugoslavia itself after its breakup. There are 2 million Serbian refugees in Serbia and Republika Srbska from Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo. Sending 1 million Albanians to Albania will settle the refugee balance.

Fatos, All your comments you directed at the Serbs actually belong to the Albanians.

K-Albanians constantly threaten violence if they don't get what they want. More nationalistic you couldn't get.
Expelling all non-Albanian population is an extreme nationalistic and racist thing to do. Talk till you're blue in the face but hundreds of thousands of Serbs and other non-Albanians have been run out of Kosovo under the noses of NATO by Albanians.

So you see, you are actually describing the Albanians in your comments.

Let me get this right. Mr Tadic is saying that if Kosova is lost, democracy in Serbia might be jeopardised as ultras might be on the rise, but he is prepared to ignore what happens in Kosova a territory that he claims, as long as the ultras are happy.
If the only point of this is to satisfy the ultras in Serbia he should really think of some other excuse. They have been used well too often and lets face it they will never be happy.
Linking democratic development in Serbia with Kosova status issue is not really a sensible approach. It smells of desperation and doesn’t look good even for a leader of Serbia.
I have no problem with Serbia given a generous package for the eventual lost of Kosova to counterweight this rise nonetheless the linkage that he is making is morally corrupt and uneven.
It would have been far more sensible to make the parallel about the fate of the democracies in both Serbia and Kosova.

# Victor: "It's difficult to follow the reasoning of Mr. Tadic. On the one hand, he makes a comparison between 2 million Albanians in Kosovo and 10 millions in Serbia, but he does not say a word about 100 000 Serbs in Kosovo compared with 2 million Albanians."

Yes, Victor, because one is a minority within a sovereign state and the other is a minority within one province of their own sovereign state.

The difference is huge.

«A quick advise for Serb leadership - stop feeding nationalist dreams, because nowhere in the world do systems based on such aspirations survive.»

Very true. As French author Jorrès so well said: "Nationalism is hatred of others, patriotism is of Love."

There is gonna be no crisis or anything like that. Stop lying for once. Stop scaring your own people for something inexistent. Anyway, it seems that some people (or nations) can learn their lessons only by suffering. Maybe that is the case.

Tadic is correct. There would be instability, but it would be temporary. Even if Serbia attacked intependent state of Kosovo, they would lose one more time in a war against NATO.

"I have never seen the Serbian team in a such panic. The policy of scaremongering doesn't work anymore Mr Tadic."
mr. ea, its a game kosovo albanians have been playing for months. are you now telling us from your vantage point that scaremongering really doesn't work? i hope so. pristina's punchline for months> yes its illegal, yes it never happened before, but we must have a state because otherwise the place will blow up. pristina doesn't tolerate those peasants in uniforms called ana for nothing. there's scaremongering for you. i dont know, some say kosovo some kosova some greater albania. why not call that territory, de facto? :) because good luck with de iure. because like you said scaremongering doesn't work.

even though I am against the independence of Kosovo...Im pretty sure its going to happen unilaterally. And isnt that going to be interesting... I just cant wait for that party to start...

Now even Tadic is getting ridiculous and desperate. He tries to push the panic button. So who would care outside Serbia if they would have their internal troubles? Nobody. They would be free to imitate the Irakiens in their daily infighting.
I find it also funny how he inflate the number of the Serbs. In the current small Serbia there are 7,5 million people, 7 millions Serbs plus the minorities. Bosnia has 1,2 million Serbs. So on the Balkan there are about 7 million Albanians versus 8,2 Serbs. No matter how hard the Serbs try to mislead themselfes their are a small nation, even smaller than the Hungarians. They were just lucky that within ex-Yougoslavia they were in position to dominate the others. But every good time comes to an end. They should finally recognize the changed times and live in peace and harmony with their neighbors.

Serbs should not suffer because of albanians and also albanians should not suffer because of serbs, and the best way to avoid suffering of each side is to seperate the two sides by having an independent Kosova and independent Serbia.
Tadic will soon get a DEMARCHE for his Milosevic type comments just like Jeremic got few days ago.
I understand that serb politicians will try anything and everything to stop Kosova's independence but nothing will stop it, Kosova will be independent anyway or anyhow.
Thanks

Danijel. What makes you sure that NATO will fight for you again?
You are obviously not ready for independence because you can't look after yourselves.
There comes a time when the world has enough of baby sitting.

Joe,
Your reply to George C Thomas that he sounds like a relative of Milosevic.

As a Catholic and a non Albanian and also anti Serb, I can deduct that you sound like a relative of Tudjman.

Am I correct in stating this with little evidence as you think you are of stating what your said?

Just because you don't agree with his opinion please don't throw unfounded opinions around.

Again, Serbs just never get that anti Albanian/Kosova lies released out their mouths does no harm to Kosova but does quite a bit to the Serbs, everywhere. Good job Tadic, the more you push your scare tatics, the more the people hate you and will join the radicals, just to spite you. For us Albanians, you're doing a better job of handing independence, not just to Kosova, but to the rest of the Albanians in Preshevo and Sanxhak and to the Hungarians in Vojvodina. Yep, we support hate/fear mongering leaders in Serbia like you. Keep up the good work.

it is not the Serb camp who is in a panic, it is others which i will not mention. It is clear that on December 11th if nothing is reached that the other party has said they will declare independence. The US has been quite and has told the other party not to do this. Any yet again whoever the PM from the other party who is concern will make a deal that everyone will agree to. Even Serbs Respect Hashim Thaci because he is the one who controls the KLA. If he says to allow the Serbs who left back into Kosovo no matter what they were alleged to have done it will be so and if anyone did decide to take revenge then they would suffer. Independence will not be unilateral declared but with dialoque. The real power behind the other party(Kosovo Albanians) is Hashim Thaci he is the key to the Kosovo business. Speak with him and don't listen to any other BS those politicans are speaking. Has Mr Thaci set a date for independence? Nope when he does then that is the date you go by. Whatever Mr Surroli, Ceku, or any other figure head syas is just talking trying to get votes.

Well, if this what Tadic is declaring is true, than the last tragic civil war in ex YU countries, will take part inside Serbia itself. Let's hope that forces of instability will be defeted

George C. Thomas,

As a Catholic and non-Albanian I get the impression that you speak like a relative of Milosevic. The same old arrogance. You want to move the Albanians to Albania. Already your hero Milosevic failed to do that because of NATO as a guardian angel. Since 1999 there is no military power left behind in Serbia to try again something so suicidal.
And about those 1000 Serbian churches: that is a pretty high number for a small territory like Kosovo. It appears that it is even a higher concentration than in any region of Italy or in some latin countries. On the other side it is also well known that the Serbs are not religious. Most of them don't go to church, what is their own right and decision. The Serbian Churches serve mostly like tourist attractions. Do you see them the same way?

kate -- you forgot to direct to tadic all of those lectures you typically direct to the pro-independence side: a -- leasrn to compromise in good faith! b -- stop threatening violence! after all, what's good for the goose...

" and reminded that Belgrade presented its own 14-point document as reaction to the Troika's paper, at the previous meeting in Brussels."

Does anyone have a link on this? Thanks!

I am just wondering why my comment was suppressed. I basically stated that Tadic seems to be in Panic and that there are only 7 million Serbs in Serbia out of 7.5 million inhabitants (.5 million minorities). Should I inflate those numbers and say that they are 12 millions?

"Some believe that stability of two million Albanians in Kosovo is more important than instability of ten million Serbs," said Tadić.

It's difficult to follow the reasoning of Mr. Tadic. On the one hand, he makes a comparison between 2 million Albanians in Kosovo and 10 millions in Serbia, but he does not say a word about 100 000 Serbs in Kosovo compared with 2 million Albanians.

I think Mr Tadic is trying to create a diversion by presenting possible scenario of horror. I am sure that nothing of this will happen. After all, I am quite sure that a majority of Serbs in Serbia don't give a dawm about the independence of Kosovo.

"Some believe that stability of two million Albanians in Kosovo is more important than instability of ten million Serbs," said Tadić.

Then why do you keep bothering us, ethnically cleansing us, killing us if you are so concerned about your stability in Serbia Mr. Tadic.

So according to you Mr. Tadic the Serbs are more important people than Albanians. According to you Mr. Tadic the Serbs deserve to be stable while the Albanians don't; who cares about Albanians anyways.
According to you Mr. Tadic the ultranationalist will come to power if Kosova/o declares independence. Well if that's the case and you lose your power that's the choice of the Serbian people. They are free to choose who they want, regardless of what happens in Kosova/o.
Correct me if I'm wrong Mr. Tadic but didn't the ultranationalist party win more popular votes than any other party even though as Serbs see it Kosova/o is still under Serbia? So what is all this fuss about ultranationalistic future scenarios, when the ultranationalist are already the present in Serbia.
Also Mr. Tadic you should get informed better. There's about 7 million Albanians in the Balkans. Their stability depends on the stability of Kosva/o Albanians.

Victor: "It's difficult to follow the reasoning of Mr. Tadic. On the one hand, he makes a comparison between 2 million Albanians in Kosovo and 10 millions in Serbia, but he does not say a word about 100 000 Serbs in Kosovo compared with 2 million Albanians."

Yes, Victor, because one is a minority within a sovereign state and the other is a minority within one province of their own sovereign state.

The difference is huge.

The Serbian leaders are childish.

Tadic says that the "stability" of 10 million Serbs somehow is more important than the stability of 2 million Albanians.

Obiously, we Albanians think otherwise.

It is clear that Serbs themselves would be the perpetrators of any violence this time around. The fact that they themselves would be the victims can only please those us who have previously suffered from their attempts to recreate the medieval Serbia.

Albanians have not in the past, and do not intend to in the future, go into Serbia and stir things up. It has always been Serb soldiers beating Albanian civilians, not the other way round.

So there is no reason why 2 million Albanians should be sacrificed to please a nation that keeps producing conflict and war, ever since it gained independence in 1878.

Stay firm on this. People all over the world are working hard to stop the illegal independence of Kosovo!

Let me get this right. Mr Tadic is saying that if Kosova is lost, democracy in Serbia might be jeopardised as ultras might be on the rise, but he is prepared to ignore what happens in Kosova a territory that he claims, as long as the ultras are happy.
If the only point of this is to satisfy the ultras in Serbia he should really think of some other excuse. They have been used well too often and lets face it they will never be happy.
Linking democratic development in Serbia with Kosova status issue is not really a sensible approach. It smells of desperation and doesn’t look good even for a leader of Serbia.
I have no problem with Serbia given a generous package for the eventual lost of Kosova to counterweight this rise nonetheless the linkage that he is making is morally corrupt and uneven.
It would have been far more sensible to make the parallel about the fate of the democracies in both Serbia and Kosova.

I have never seen the Serbian team in a such panic. The policy of scaremongering doesn't work anymore Mr Tadic. Any future problem with the ethic minorities in Kosova it will be because of your instigations to destibilise the region at any coost. Your appeals are similar to those of your previous leader Slobodan Milosevic warning the world about the consequences of Yugoslavia, and the intervention of NATO in Kosova. Nothing will stop the Kosova INDEPENDENCE. It is absoultely stupid to link the future and prospects of two million Kosovar Albanians with those of Serbia's. That would be one more reason why Kosova should be freed from the Serbian rule once and for all. Enough is enough!

I think Serb leadership is not doing a favor to Serbia with comments like this. The only message that the western world (decision-makers) will get from this is that Serbia has not yet shied away from backward nationalism of Milosevic era, and as such is not compatible with western values of tolerance, and respect for human rights.

Why would anyone care if Serbia becomes chaotic? You cannot appease greedy appetites who want to conquer their neighboring countries on the threat that they will be chaotic otherwise. They can be as problematic as they want WITHIN their country. Empirically speaking, it never turned well for Serbia when it tried to stir trouble elsewhere - it got bombed again and again... and nothing will avoid the same outcome yet again.

A quick advise for Serb leadership - stop feeding nationalist dreams, because nowhere in the world do systems based on such aspirations survive. Turn towards the EU and improve the life of those people that you are chosen to lead not mislead into believing in miracles such as retaking Kosovo.

«A quick advise for Serb leadership - stop feeding nationalist dreams, because nowhere in the world do systems based on such aspirations survive.»

Very true. As French author Jorrès so well said: "Nationalism is hatred of others, patriotism is of Love."

There is gonna be no crisis or anything like that. Stop lying for once. Stop scaring your own people for something inexistent. Anyway, it seems that some people (or nations) can learn their lessons only by suffering. Maybe that is the case.

People (2004 est.)
Nationality: Noun--Serb(s); adjective--Serbian.
Population (2002 Republic census): Serbia (not including Kosovo) 7,478,820.
Population growth rate: -3.5%.
Ethnic groups (2002 population census, without Kosovo): Serbian 83%, Hungarian 4%, Bosnian 2%, Albanian 1%, Montenegrin 1%, other 9%.
Religions (2002 population census, without Kosovo): Orthodox 85%, Roman Catholic 5.5%, Muslim 3%, Protestant 1%, other 5.5%.
Languages: Serbian 88%, Hungarian 3.8%, Bosnian 2%, Albanian 1%, others 5%.
Health: Infant mortality rate--8.1 deaths/1,000. Life expectancy--males 72.44 yrs., female 77.86 yrs.


So if in 2002 without Kosova Serbia had 7 million people (with -3.5% growth) how in hell did it grow 3 million people in 5 years (with a NEGATIVE GROWTH RATE)?

Do you see why it is hard for NON-Serbian to take Serbia or its' "politicians" seriously?

"I have never seen the Serbian team in a such panic. The policy of scaremongering doesn't work anymore Mr Tadic."
mr. ea, its a game kosovo albanians have been playing for months. are you now telling us from your vantage point that scaremongering really doesn't work? i hope so. pristina's punchline for months> yes its illegal, yes it never happened before, but we must have a state because otherwise the place will blow up. pristina doesn't tolerate those peasants in uniforms called ana for nothing. there's scaremongering for you. i dont know, some say kosovo some kosova some greater albania. why not call that territory, de facto? :) because good luck with de iure. because like you said scaremongering doesn't work.

even though I am against the independence of Kosovo...Im pretty sure its going to happen unilaterally. And isnt that going to be interesting... I just cant wait for that party to start...

Jen,
There wil be lots of partying indeed if 'greater albania' is unilaterally recognized. Do you know where? In Republika Srpska, which will declare independence immediately based on the 'Kosovo Precedent' - remember those words. In addition, North Mitrovica is in Serb control and will remain that way. Russia, who is surging and in the mood to get back at the US, will delight in recognizing Republika Srpska. Russians will also be partying when they take back parts of the former Soviet Union who want to join her again, all based on the 'Kosovo Precedent'. So, yes, you are right, there will be lots of partying, ALL over the world when everyone starts declaring independence. Whether you will be one of those people partying, I don't know, but exchanging 2 million ungrateful albanians for 2 million ecstatic Serbs in Republika Srpska, and keeping the North Mitrovica pocket - I do think Serbs will be the ones celebrating the most, along with Putin. I can just see Vladimir Putin daring the Americans, 'Go ahead, make my day', a la Clint Eastwood. He has checkmated them, and they know it.

Tadic is correct. There would be instability, but it would be temporary. Even if Serbia attacked intependent state of Kosovo, they would lose one more time in a war against NATO.

George C. Thomas,

As a Catholic and non-Albanian I get the impression that you speak like a relative of Milosevic. The same old arrogance. You want to move the Albanians to Albania. Already your hero Milosevic failed to do that because of NATO as a guardian angel. Since 1999 there is no military power left behind in Serbia to try again something so suicidal.
And about those 1000 Serbian churches: that is a pretty high number for a small territory like Kosovo. It appears that it is even a higher concentration than in any region of Italy or in some latin countries. On the other side it is also well known that the Serbs are not religious. Most of them don't go to church, what is their own right and decision. The Serbian Churches serve mostly like tourist attractions. Do you see them the same way?

Fatos, All your comments you directed at the Serbs actually belong to the Albanians.

K-Albanians constantly threaten violence if they don't get what they want. More nationalistic you couldn't get.
Expelling all non-Albanian population is an extreme nationalistic and racist thing to do. Talk till you're blue in the face but hundreds of thousands of Serbs and other non-Albanians have been run out of Kosovo under the noses of NATO by Albanians.

So you see, you are actually describing the Albanians in your comments.

Now even Tadic is getting ridiculous and desperate. He tries to push the panic button. So who would care outside Serbia if they would have their internal troubles? Nobody. They would be free to imitate the Irakiens in their daily infighting.
I find it also funny how he inflate the number of the Serbs. In the current small Serbia there are 7,5 million people, 7 millions Serbs plus the minorities. Bosnia has 1,2 million Serbs. So on the Balkan there are about 7 million Albanians versus 8,2 Serbs. No matter how hard the Serbs try to mislead themselfes their are a small nation, even smaller than the Hungarians. They were just lucky that within ex-Yougoslavia they were in position to dominate the others. But every good time comes to an end. They should finally recognize the changed times and live in peace and harmony with their neighbors.

Serbs should not suffer because of albanians and also albanians should not suffer because of serbs, and the best way to avoid suffering of each side is to seperate the two sides by having an independent Kosova and independent Serbia.
Tadic will soon get a DEMARCHE for his Milosevic type comments just like Jeremic got few days ago.
I understand that serb politicians will try anything and everything to stop Kosova's independence but nothing will stop it, Kosova will be independent anyway or anyhow.
Thanks

Danijel. What makes you sure that NATO will fight for you again?
You are obviously not ready for independence because you can't look after yourselves.
There comes a time when the world has enough of baby sitting.

I am just wondering why my comment was suppressed. I basically stated that Tadic seems to be in Panic and that there are only 7 million Serbs in Serbia out of 7.5 million inhabitants (.5 million minorities). Should I inflate those numbers and say that they are 12 millions?

There may be 2 million Albanians in Kosovo today. This is partly because of illegal migration across the Albanian border, and because of demographic changes. However, there are nearly a 1000 Serbian mediival churches, monasteries and Orthodox holy sites in Kosovo dating back to the 12th century. We cannot move these physical structures to Serbia. But we can move Albanians to Albania which is where they belong. Tens of millions of people have been moved and resettled between Turkey and Greece after the First World War, between India and Pakistan after the paritition of British India,, and in Yugoslavia itself after its breakup. There are 2 million Serbian refugees in Serbia and Republika Srbska from Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo. Sending 1 million Albanians to Albania will settle the refugee balance.

Again, Serbs just never get that anti Albanian/Kosova lies released out their mouths does no harm to Kosova but does quite a bit to the Serbs, everywhere. Good job Tadic, the more you push your scare tatics, the more the people hate you and will join the radicals, just to spite you. For us Albanians, you're doing a better job of handing independence, not just to Kosova, but to the rest of the Albanians in Preshevo and Sanxhak and to the Hungarians in Vojvodina. Yep, we support hate/fear mongering leaders in Serbia like you. Keep up the good work.

kate -- you forgot to direct to tadic all of those lectures you typically direct to the pro-independence side: a -- leasrn to compromise in good faith! b -- stop threatening violence! after all, what's good for the goose...

it is not the Serb camp who is in a panic, it is others which i will not mention. It is clear that on December 11th if nothing is reached that the other party has said they will declare independence. The US has been quite and has told the other party not to do this. Any yet again whoever the PM from the other party who is concern will make a deal that everyone will agree to. Even Serbs Respect Hashim Thaci because he is the one who controls the KLA. If he says to allow the Serbs who left back into Kosovo no matter what they were alleged to have done it will be so and if anyone did decide to take revenge then they would suffer. Independence will not be unilateral declared but with dialoque. The real power behind the other party(Kosovo Albanians) is Hashim Thaci he is the key to the Kosovo business. Speak with him and don't listen to any other BS those politicans are speaking. Has Mr Thaci set a date for independence? Nope when he does then that is the date you go by. Whatever Mr Surroli, Ceku, or any other figure head syas is just talking trying to get votes.

" and reminded that Belgrade presented its own 14-point document as reaction to the Troika's paper, at the previous meeting in Brussels."

Does anyone have a link on this? Thanks!

Well, if this what Tadic is declaring is true, than the last tragic civil war in ex YU countries, will take part inside Serbia itself. Let's hope that forces of instability will be defeted

# Victor: "It's difficult to follow the reasoning of Mr. Tadic. On the one hand, he makes a comparison between 2 million Albanians in Kosovo and 10 millions in Serbia, but he does not say a word about 100 000 Serbs in Kosovo compared with 2 million Albanians."

Yes, Victor, because one is a minority within a sovereign state and the other is a minority within one province of their own sovereign state.

The difference is huge.

Joe,
Your reply to George C Thomas that he sounds like a relative of Milosevic.

As a Catholic and a non Albanian and also anti Serb, I can deduct that you sound like a relative of Tudjman.

Am I correct in stating this with little evidence as you think you are of stating what your said?

Just because you don't agree with his opinion please don't throw unfounded opinions around.