Former Kosovo PM says province "does not need violence"

"Also, we have already clearly stated that we will not declare independence without unequivocal agreement from the U.S. and EU. Therefore, this move will come, but at a right time."

- so the back tracking has already begun. What next will we here - Independence definite by Dec. 2008 and then 2009, 2010,11,12, etc....

Thaci knows what has been told by the US no illegal declarations are possible why does he not let the ordinary people know the truth?

who was the one funny dude who was counting the days until december 10th, again?

by the way, maybe the former "PM of Kosovo" is just, again, just a paid agent from the "serbian secret service"?

My comment has nothing to do with the article and by no means I intend to offend anyone. In my work and through the contacts I have had with Serbs, and even in internet board comments such as the first to comments here I have been able to see a trait that many Serbs have in common, and that is that Serbs get enthusiastic really quick and sometimes without any good reason. I may be wrong to generalize but thats what I have experienced whenever I have ben in contact with Serbs.

"A coup de force on the part of Serbia would be suicidal. And Mr Tadic knows this as all Serbs in Serbia.
(Victor, 4. November 2007 23:36)"

Victor,...the western states are bound to international law, when will you finally get it?

if they could impose something like that against the will of Serbia that easy...they would have done it before...

but there is no such thing.

get real. and don´t talk of suicide..it´s the Albanians who are playing with fire, since the international troops would have to take care of those who unilaterally declare anything that is not in accordance with international law.
Serbia has international law, up to the highest levels, on the own side, there is no reason for any "coup de force" at all!
by the way, that´s the reason why the Albanians are reduced to violence or the mere threat of it.
they have nothing else!
so...
don´t fool yourself!

I expected Albanians to comment on this news item, but guess I will be left without being amused. Pity! Perhaps it is a bit complicated to breach the international law that is concidered to be serious. But lets wait and see what happens next

Funcakes,

Keep dreaming. Serbia will never accept it. You can declare what you want...

You will not gain REAL independence as long as Serbia does not agree.

You really want te be a rogue state?

Nobody wants violence. So do not declare independence. Accept that you are part of Serbia. And then try to change that :)

My advice: swap Kosovo for RS!

reading the coment from princip it makes me beleive that he is a good friend of Thaci and he knows what US has told him about declaring Independence. Wow, I never knew that.

So far west is playing smart and knows that Russia as West has its interest to protect. It is people like you Mr Montgomery that are always trying to inflame relations between Russia and West.

And how is Russia hurting situation in Balcans or Iran. They, like West, are looking for their own interest an futhermore going by international laws in Balcan and ofcause fot that they are bad and insensetive.

Just imagine if Russia decided to intefeare in war in Afganistan to help Al Qaeda to fight West like West was using every possible mean to kill Russiens during Afgan/Russien war. Instead of being appreciative, we bash them as usual. As far as Kosovo and Bosnia again we want to make Bosnia multy etnic because Serbs would have to be minority there but West likes to ripp Serbia appart because Albaniens don't want to be minority in Serbia. So anything that goes against Serbs interest is fine with West and when Russia reminds them of unfairness and international law then your response is that West should ignore it and do as they please anyway.
You are very one sided man Mr Montgomery and being that you have a chance to spread fairness and justice for all people it sadens me to see artical like this-but of caurse all your articals are based the same way.

Funcakes, I think it's time you woke up.

I think you are the one beating a dead horse. Too many countries don't want independent Kosovo.

Can the US afford to make any more enemies around the world? Up till now the stakes weren't that high, but the world is changing and you are the one being stuck in the past.

Imperial America is a thing of the past.

The FORMER PM spoke...aha, good article.

Congratulations to Kosovo on it's independence on the week of December 10th!

Ron - I don't think the Albanians care about Serbia's acceptance.

They will be an independent state based on the recogniton of other major countries, and thanks to something called the Montevideo Convention...everything is perfectly legal and wonderful.

And don't expect Russia to hold it's opposition for that long either. After independence is said and done, I doubt that Kremlin will keep on beating the dead horse.

Everything will move on, except Serbia of course. I guess it will take a while to erradicate the nationalism out of it's system.

Ron, stay out of politics. The only nation that will turn rogue is serbia is Kosovo declares independence. Just stay out of politics. Also, RS will never leave Bosnia, whether the serbs like it or now.

«Serbia will never accept it. You can declare what you want... »

This is true. Serbia won't accept it and it won't change one iota on the declaration of independence.

Mr Ceku knows this, as he knows that the USA will recognize immediately the independence, and Serbia will no longer have any recourse... but to accept. A coup de force on the part of Serbia would be suicidal. And Mr Tadic knows this as all Serbs in Serbia.

It's not anything coming out of Pristina or Belgrade I fear, but shadow organizations such as ANA, and the Tsar Lazar Movement. It's also the relative lawlessness that still plagues western Kosovo, where large swathes of land owe more legitimate allegience to crime syndicates in London, New York and Detroit than Pristina. If violence does return, it will be solely and excluesively the responsibility of these non-political (and this non-responsible) organizations.

The end of the game is and has always been that a country can declare independence, just like Kosovo and other entities have done in the past...and we all agree that this act cannot be stopped.

A declaration of independence, in itself, cannot be stopped.

Up to here, everyone should agree because this is a universal fact.

Next, we play the recognition game. The US and most of EU countries, along with others around the world naturally, have stated that they will recognize Kosovo's independence.

Now, these countries, are not fools...they know international law, they have created most of the international law. If recognition was so illegal, they would not come out all together...and openly state that they will approve an "illegal act".

Therefore, there must still be legal ways out there...so that all of these important countries can justify the recognition of Kosovo.

This is pretty simple to comprehend, it's just a matter of simple math.

Sure, there is resolution 1244 still in force...which according to UNSC, Kosovo falls under Serbia's territory.

Fine, but where does it say that Kosovo cannot declare independence? And where does it say that this independence cannot be recognized?

No where.

Therefore, how does 1244 relate to independence?

1244 cannot stop independence or it's recognition.

The UN seat is a different story. It is on the hands of a Russian and Chinese veto.

But a veto is never sure, and it can easily be swayed and lost in the middle of other deals between the big countries.

So independence cannot be stopped, and the UN seat is an "everchanging maybe".

But if Kosovo can become independent...and can be recognized, doesn't it sound maliscious to anyone if you're actually wishing for a future independent country not to obtain a UN seat, just because it became independent?

Isn't that a revengeful and backward mentality that the humanity is trying to eliminate?

What does it say about you, when you know that a country will become independent because it legally can and 1244 doesn't state that it can't, and you vengefully wish for it to be disadvantaged without a UN seat?

Serbia signed 1244:

1244 doesn't say that Kosovo can't become independent and be recognized:

Serbia cannot ask for Kosovo not to become independent because there is no agreement that stops it from doing so.

Can everyone get off the 1244 horse now?

Bajram is just talking out his ear. I said the key to this Kosovo Business is Hashim Thaci, the serbs respect him and no one else because they know who really controls the affairs of Kosovo. I willing to bet alot of Euro that he would and will to Belgrade and sit down Boris and his cabinet and talk. He is not afraid like Agim was in Skopje when they were stuck in the Airport with Boris Tadic. So what they people can say whatever if it was me i would have taken the opportunity to discuss issues out of the media spot light. However, once Mr Thaci is elected PM he will make alot of changes and i can see him either going to Belgrade or inviting Boris Tadic to Pristina to talk directly. No one would touch him nor vojaslav because they would be under his protection. As for some poster who still think December 10 it the day then keep wishing. When Hashim sets a date then that is date you write down nothing else matters.

Southern Albania should be given to Greece since it has a Greek Minority. Albanians are a minority in Serbia. Not the majority. Kosovo is a province like Quebec is to Canada. Lets put the politicans of Albania, Serbia, Germany, UK, Italy, Montenegro, Bosnia and Croatia in one room let them duke it out. Leave the people alone.

reading the coment from princip it makes me beleive that he is a good friend of Thaci and he knows what US has told him about declaring Independence. Wow, I never knew that.

My comment has nothing to do with the article and by no means I intend to offend anyone. In my work and through the contacts I have had with Serbs, and even in internet board comments such as the first to comments here I have been able to see a trait that many Serbs have in common, and that is that Serbs get enthusiastic really quick and sometimes without any good reason. I may be wrong to generalize but thats what I have experienced whenever I have ben in contact with Serbs.

Nobody wants violence. So do not declare independence. Accept that you are part of Serbia. And then try to change that :)

My advice: swap Kosovo for RS!

The FORMER PM spoke...aha, good article.

Congratulations to Kosovo on it's independence on the week of December 10th!

Ron, stay out of politics. The only nation that will turn rogue is serbia is Kosovo declares independence. Just stay out of politics. Also, RS will never leave Bosnia, whether the serbs like it or now.

Ron - I don't think the Albanians care about Serbia's acceptance.

They will be an independent state based on the recogniton of other major countries, and thanks to something called the Montevideo Convention...everything is perfectly legal and wonderful.

And don't expect Russia to hold it's opposition for that long either. After independence is said and done, I doubt that Kremlin will keep on beating the dead horse.

Everything will move on, except Serbia of course. I guess it will take a while to erradicate the nationalism out of it's system.

«Serbia will never accept it. You can declare what you want... »

This is true. Serbia won't accept it and it won't change one iota on the declaration of independence.

Mr Ceku knows this, as he knows that the USA will recognize immediately the independence, and Serbia will no longer have any recourse... but to accept. A coup de force on the part of Serbia would be suicidal. And Mr Tadic knows this as all Serbs in Serbia.

Southern Albania should be given to Greece since it has a Greek Minority. Albanians are a minority in Serbia. Not the majority. Kosovo is a province like Quebec is to Canada. Lets put the politicans of Albania, Serbia, Germany, UK, Italy, Montenegro, Bosnia and Croatia in one room let them duke it out. Leave the people alone.

"Also, we have already clearly stated that we will not declare independence without unequivocal agreement from the U.S. and EU. Therefore, this move will come, but at a right time."

- so the back tracking has already begun. What next will we here - Independence definite by Dec. 2008 and then 2009, 2010,11,12, etc....

Thaci knows what has been told by the US no illegal declarations are possible why does he not let the ordinary people know the truth?

who was the one funny dude who was counting the days until december 10th, again?

by the way, maybe the former "PM of Kosovo" is just, again, just a paid agent from the "serbian secret service"?

I expected Albanians to comment on this news item, but guess I will be left without being amused. Pity! Perhaps it is a bit complicated to breach the international law that is concidered to be serious. But lets wait and see what happens next

Funcakes,

Keep dreaming. Serbia will never accept it. You can declare what you want...

You will not gain REAL independence as long as Serbia does not agree.

You really want te be a rogue state?

So far west is playing smart and knows that Russia as West has its interest to protect. It is people like you Mr Montgomery that are always trying to inflame relations between Russia and West.

And how is Russia hurting situation in Balcans or Iran. They, like West, are looking for their own interest an futhermore going by international laws in Balcan and ofcause fot that they are bad and insensetive.

Just imagine if Russia decided to intefeare in war in Afganistan to help Al Qaeda to fight West like West was using every possible mean to kill Russiens during Afgan/Russien war. Instead of being appreciative, we bash them as usual. As far as Kosovo and Bosnia again we want to make Bosnia multy etnic because Serbs would have to be minority there but West likes to ripp Serbia appart because Albaniens don't want to be minority in Serbia. So anything that goes against Serbs interest is fine with West and when Russia reminds them of unfairness and international law then your response is that West should ignore it and do as they please anyway.
You are very one sided man Mr Montgomery and being that you have a chance to spread fairness and justice for all people it sadens me to see artical like this-but of caurse all your articals are based the same way.

Funcakes, I think it's time you woke up.

I think you are the one beating a dead horse. Too many countries don't want independent Kosovo.

Can the US afford to make any more enemies around the world? Up till now the stakes weren't that high, but the world is changing and you are the one being stuck in the past.

Imperial America is a thing of the past.

It's not anything coming out of Pristina or Belgrade I fear, but shadow organizations such as ANA, and the Tsar Lazar Movement. It's also the relative lawlessness that still plagues western Kosovo, where large swathes of land owe more legitimate allegience to crime syndicates in London, New York and Detroit than Pristina. If violence does return, it will be solely and excluesively the responsibility of these non-political (and this non-responsible) organizations.

"A coup de force on the part of Serbia would be suicidal. And Mr Tadic knows this as all Serbs in Serbia.
(Victor, 4. November 2007 23:36)"

Victor,...the western states are bound to international law, when will you finally get it?

if they could impose something like that against the will of Serbia that easy...they would have done it before...

but there is no such thing.

get real. and don´t talk of suicide..it´s the Albanians who are playing with fire, since the international troops would have to take care of those who unilaterally declare anything that is not in accordance with international law.
Serbia has international law, up to the highest levels, on the own side, there is no reason for any "coup de force" at all!
by the way, that´s the reason why the Albanians are reduced to violence or the mere threat of it.
they have nothing else!
so...
don´t fool yourself!

The end of the game is and has always been that a country can declare independence, just like Kosovo and other entities have done in the past...and we all agree that this act cannot be stopped.

A declaration of independence, in itself, cannot be stopped.

Up to here, everyone should agree because this is a universal fact.

Next, we play the recognition game. The US and most of EU countries, along with others around the world naturally, have stated that they will recognize Kosovo's independence.

Now, these countries, are not fools...they know international law, they have created most of the international law. If recognition was so illegal, they would not come out all together...and openly state that they will approve an "illegal act".

Therefore, there must still be legal ways out there...so that all of these important countries can justify the recognition of Kosovo.

This is pretty simple to comprehend, it's just a matter of simple math.

Sure, there is resolution 1244 still in force...which according to UNSC, Kosovo falls under Serbia's territory.

Fine, but where does it say that Kosovo cannot declare independence? And where does it say that this independence cannot be recognized?

No where.

Therefore, how does 1244 relate to independence?

1244 cannot stop independence or it's recognition.

The UN seat is a different story. It is on the hands of a Russian and Chinese veto.

But a veto is never sure, and it can easily be swayed and lost in the middle of other deals between the big countries.

So independence cannot be stopped, and the UN seat is an "everchanging maybe".

But if Kosovo can become independent...and can be recognized, doesn't it sound maliscious to anyone if you're actually wishing for a future independent country not to obtain a UN seat, just because it became independent?

Isn't that a revengeful and backward mentality that the humanity is trying to eliminate?

What does it say about you, when you know that a country will become independent because it legally can and 1244 doesn't state that it can't, and you vengefully wish for it to be disadvantaged without a UN seat?

Serbia signed 1244:

1244 doesn't say that Kosovo can't become independent and be recognized:

Serbia cannot ask for Kosovo not to become independent because there is no agreement that stops it from doing so.

Can everyone get off the 1244 horse now?

Bajram is just talking out his ear. I said the key to this Kosovo Business is Hashim Thaci, the serbs respect him and no one else because they know who really controls the affairs of Kosovo. I willing to bet alot of Euro that he would and will to Belgrade and sit down Boris and his cabinet and talk. He is not afraid like Agim was in Skopje when they were stuck in the Airport with Boris Tadic. So what they people can say whatever if it was me i would have taken the opportunity to discuss issues out of the media spot light. However, once Mr Thaci is elected PM he will make alot of changes and i can see him either going to Belgrade or inviting Boris Tadic to Pristina to talk directly. No one would touch him nor vojaslav because they would be under his protection. As for some poster who still think December 10 it the day then keep wishing. When Hashim sets a date then that is date you write down nothing else matters.