Blackbird,
I realise that you might have just come back from the pub 20:18, read the previous comments from the others here and you will realise that I am making my comments based on their statements. Where are your arguments or are you feeling sleepy?
I can see that many Serbs or those who support Serbs have gone hysterical about D'Alema's comment. Their main argument..."How can you occupy your own country" and Those refugees fleeing KiM were organized to look like ethnic clensing. They were ordered to leave in mass numbers to get public support from outside world. In reality they were running away from uck.
(Ratko, 17. October 2007 16:52) does not work any more. That is an insult for the war victims. The Serbian logic here about "own country" and "Serbian sovereignity" over Kosova would mean that Serbia will have the right to come and assert its authority anytime they like in Kosova. That is never going to happen and it is another argument whu Kosova should NEVER and NEVER again be part of Serbia. Kosovar Albanians will do everything they can to finalise their aspiration to full independence as NATO did to stop the ethnic cleansing in Kosova.
This is very interesting and clearly shows the level of thinking in NATO countries at the time. Mr. D'Alema was not interested in the broader interests at the time.
D'Alemae was more concerned over the mafia ties and smuggling of the Albanians in Kosovo and Kosovo Albanian illegal entries into Italy. All the other issues were not worth a penny to them.
D'Alema is right. Kosova was territorially occupied on 1913. This was the first phase. What Serbs did on 1999, was the second phase of that what started on 1913: deported the whole Albanian population from Kosova.
Just like now days Serb politicians aims, KS yes, but without Albanians.
This D‚Alema should find a way to explain to German speaking citizens in Italy‚s South Tirol how come Kosovo can be independent and South Tirol cannot.
I am a US Soldier that has served in Kos-Met. The Italian minister could not be farther from the truth, NATO intervened in Afghanistan because that nation supported the attacks of 9-11, NATO invoked article 5 which states that an attack on one NATO ally is an attack on all.
The coalition of the willing intervened in Iraq (right or wrong) for what is perceived as militaristic threats from Iraq to its neighbors and to the world. The same will go for Iran.
How is Kosovo a necessity then? Belgrade was no threat to any NATO member, not a threat to its regional members (seeing as the wars in the balkans ended), and if we are comparing "humanitarian situations", we should have been and should look to places like Somalia, Sudan, Rwanda, Burman, etc.
The world has its priorities out of order. No bombs for oral sex.
if really whan to know if serbia occupied kosovo or no take a trip to turkey look into ottoman empire history for sure you will find a truth how kosovo got occupied and after some of you really believe and think !?for so long you people being lie from your goverment.
This is the most sensible thing I have read in this site. Very well done Mr. D’Alema.
Kosovo was occupied by Serbia since 1913, forced to join Yugoslavia 1945 became an equal unit of Yugoslav federation in 1974. Yugoslavia dismembered in 1991, Serbia occupied Kosovo again.
guida: you might brush up on the history of this 'conflict' before you spit inflated numbers and misrepresent in what order events happened. can anybody here prove that the 'exodus' started before nato started dropping bombs on albanian civilians?
I dont know where to start the criticism. First of all, Kosovo was not occupied as it was then, as it is not, an integral part of Serbia, therefore it was ours to defend. Secondly, 3 million refugees with a population of 1.8 million? I guess NATO really does produce these anti-Serb facts out of thin air, as we can see from these inconsistencies in numbers from 1999 and now (800.000 refugees and 3 million respectively)
constitution of 1974 gave Kosova their own parliament and self goverment. However, in the '90 Milosevics forces desolved the parliament and jailed most of the representatives. This was done of course using military and police.
What do you call this? An invitation for lunch or an occupation? Mr. Dalema is right Serbia occupied Kosova and desolved its constitutional parliament by pure force. After the '90 Kosova was occupied territory, albanians were fired from all goverment jobs, albanian schools were closed... PEOPLE, WHAT DOES OCCUPATION LOOK LIKE?
Ha,ha,ha--
Does he seriosly think just becouse he is in India and giving statements so far from Europe is csoring him points.From personal experience Indians are the smartest and most educated people around, and they are thinking the same thing we do.Thank god we don`t have this guy in the goverment.
Serbia occupied its own territory?
And than, UN ensured this “occupation” continued by endorsing Resolution 1244 ?
I do understand a bit of ignorance but this borders insanity.
Is this gentleman for real?
Serbia should clarify, with Italy, is this the official, government stand on this issue. I hope not.
Maybe you guys should consider th truth coming out from the mouth of FM of one of most powerfull countries in the world. Maybe its time to wake up and realized that you were told until now that Kosova is Serbia was just a lie and propaganda.
Now, before jumping and calling him names (like you usually do for all those who you dont like), please take into the consideration that Mr. D'Alema was the President of Italy, Foerign affairs Minister of Italy and part of EU's Council of Foreign Affairs. Of course he is someone who knows what he is talking about. And a bunch off bloggers like yourselves have no right to call him names and to doubt what he says.
Bob,
Serbs always recognize other people's crimes except their own.
in Kosovo alone...
10,000 murdered by Serb forces
1 million deported by Serb forces
thousands of women raped by Serb forces
thousands of houses destroyed by Serb forces
Is this guy really a foreign minister? What a joke! Serbs 'occupied' Kosovo?? You can not occupy your own country. Furthermore, albanians started leaving after NATO's cluster bombs and depleted uranium started falling, and this at the direct orders of the KLA terrorists. 3 million? Right, just like the '100,00 massacred' that Jamie Shea and his compatriots lied about. I don't expect the average Joe in America to be up on politics in the Balkans, but the foreign minister of a neighbouring country should know the facts. This guy has embarrassed himself and shown that he is a total joke.
D'alema's credibility (by the way as a foreign minister he doesn't speak a second language apart from italian, and that says it all!) is below 0 (nista) so i wouldn't worry about him at all.
And he is going on the opposite direction of Prodi the italian prime minister who condammed the 1999 bombing...so there!
Well Mr D'Alema. Northern Italy is occupying the south of Italy. Now we have to bomb Rome. That makes just as much sense as the rubbish Mr D'Alema spewed about Kosovo.
In 1999, during criminal attack on Serbia, D'Alema was President of Council of Ministers. He is probably fully aware of his own responsibility
for the death of 2500 civilians in Serbia.
But being a Communist, he does not allow the facts to become obstacle for him, so he explans that Serbia occupied Kosovo (i.e. herself) and that's why Serbia was bombed.
I wonder what Italian soldiers who guard Christian shrines in Kosovo from destruction think about Comrade D'Alema.
I would like to know how Serbia occupied Kosovo? It is a part of Serbia. Is it a crime for them to be in Kosovo? They were trying to protect their citizens and a part of their country. To me it sounds like the UN wanted to bomb it to set an example or redirct our focus on other things going on in the US and around the world.
Thanks Mr. Minister and is better late than never, but we knew this all along that Serbia occupied Kosova far to long. Ops, I almost forgat who said that Italy is against Kosova's Independence?
Q: However, as Prime Minister during the Kosovo crisis, you supported the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia. In retrospect, was that wrong?
A:Kosovo was very different. The Serbians had occupied (1) Kosovo and our goal was to stop the war (2). We tried diplomacy (3); it failed. When NATO attacked, there was a Serbian occupation (1) on and 3,00,000(sic) (4) refugees had fled to Albania. And before entering Kosovo, the E.U. also obtained a Security Council resolution.(5)
(1) "Serbians" are native to Kosovo and hadn't occupied what is part of their own country be it Yugoslavia or Serbia.
(2) There was a low level civil war, which NATO turned into a full scale war by siding with the KLA.
(3) Rambouillet was hardly diplomacy and more like an ultimatum.
(4) This is how it is printed. Cannot tell if it is meant to be 30,000 or 300,000. Obviously 3 million it couldn't of been.
(5)The was no UN security council that allowed the use of force. The UNSC resolution stopped the war and guaranteed that Kosovo was part of Serbia.
once again someone is taking remarks out of context as it seems.
Mr. D´Alema would not be so stupid to say that Serbia occupied Kosovo, since almost the whole world by now knows that Kosovo was, and still is a part of Serbia.
so, it´s clear that someone is looking to initiate some new dispute about remarks that very likely didn´t take place.
Bravo B92 for that level of journalism! I get the impression as if you are still a bunch of students, driving some old VW-busses through the streets of Belgrade...
hard to believe, but your info-service gives that impression.
""The Serbs occupied Kosovo and our aim was to stop the war," he told the paper. "
Does this statement make any sense? Since when are countries not allowed to protect their citizens from terrorists? Oh yes only when it comes to Serbia.
Those refugees fleeing KiM were organized to look like ethnic clensing. They were ordered to leave in mass numbers to get public support from outside world. In reality they were running away from uck.
I'm puzzled how Serbs can occupy its own territory. Nobody should take this seriously because obviously his statements are irrelevant since now suddenly its 3 million refugees. He is off by how much?
Shame on you, D'Alema, for your ignorance about these matters. You should just keep quiet rather than show yourself up.
"The Serbs occupied Kosovo..."
How can they occupy their own country?!
"We tried to use diplomacy but we failed."
No, the Serbian delegation signed the Paris agreement and diplomacy was by no means at an end. The only sticking point was Appendix B of the Ramboillet treaty which would have permitted Nato troops free movement throughout Serbia. This was unsignable and could have been changed/ negotiated (to perhaps UN troops).
"...said the minister, adding that the European Union had the Security Council resolution before entering Kosovo."
This guy knows less about this than I do about the offside rules in football!
Shame on you, D'Alema, for your ignorance about these matters. You should just keep quiet rather than show yourself up.
"The Serbs occupied Kosovo..."
How can they occupy their own country?!
"We tried to use diplomacy but we failed."
No, the Serbian delegation signed the Paris agreement and diplomacy was by no means at an end. The only sticking point was Appendix B of the Ramboillet treaty which would have permitted Nato troops free movement throughout Serbia. This was unsignable and could have been changed/ negotiated (to perhaps UN troops).
"...said the minister, adding that the European Union had the Security Council resolution before entering Kosovo."
This guy knows less about this than I do about the offside rules in football!
I'm puzzled how Serbs can occupy its own territory. Nobody should take this seriously because obviously his statements are irrelevant since now suddenly its 3 million refugees. He is off by how much?
In 1999, during criminal attack on Serbia, D'Alema was President of Council of Ministers. He is probably fully aware of his own responsibility
for the death of 2500 civilians in Serbia.
But being a Communist, he does not allow the facts to become obstacle for him, so he explans that Serbia occupied Kosovo (i.e. herself) and that's why Serbia was bombed.
I wonder what Italian soldiers who guard Christian shrines in Kosovo from destruction think about Comrade D'Alema.
constitution of 1974 gave Kosova their own parliament and self goverment. However, in the '90 Milosevics forces desolved the parliament and jailed most of the representatives. This was done of course using military and police.
What do you call this? An invitation for lunch or an occupation? Mr. Dalema is right Serbia occupied Kosova and desolved its constitutional parliament by pure force. After the '90 Kosova was occupied territory, albanians were fired from all goverment jobs, albanian schools were closed... PEOPLE, WHAT DOES OCCUPATION LOOK LIKE?
""The Serbs occupied Kosovo and our aim was to stop the war," he told the paper. "
Does this statement make any sense? Since when are countries not allowed to protect their citizens from terrorists? Oh yes only when it comes to Serbia.
Those refugees fleeing KiM were organized to look like ethnic clensing. They were ordered to leave in mass numbers to get public support from outside world. In reality they were running away from uck.
once again someone is taking remarks out of context as it seems.
Mr. D´Alema would not be so stupid to say that Serbia occupied Kosovo, since almost the whole world by now knows that Kosovo was, and still is a part of Serbia.
so, it´s clear that someone is looking to initiate some new dispute about remarks that very likely didn´t take place.
Bravo B92 for that level of journalism! I get the impression as if you are still a bunch of students, driving some old VW-busses through the streets of Belgrade...
hard to believe, but your info-service gives that impression.
Q: However, as Prime Minister during the Kosovo crisis, you supported the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia. In retrospect, was that wrong?
A:Kosovo was very different. The Serbians had occupied (1) Kosovo and our goal was to stop the war (2). We tried diplomacy (3); it failed. When NATO attacked, there was a Serbian occupation (1) on and 3,00,000(sic) (4) refugees had fled to Albania. And before entering Kosovo, the E.U. also obtained a Security Council resolution.(5)
(1) "Serbians" are native to Kosovo and hadn't occupied what is part of their own country be it Yugoslavia or Serbia.
(2) There was a low level civil war, which NATO turned into a full scale war by siding with the KLA.
(3) Rambouillet was hardly diplomacy and more like an ultimatum.
(4) This is how it is printed. Cannot tell if it is meant to be 30,000 or 300,000. Obviously 3 million it couldn't of been.
(5)The was no UN security council that allowed the use of force. The UNSC resolution stopped the war and guaranteed that Kosovo was part of Serbia.
Is this guy really a foreign minister? What a joke! Serbs 'occupied' Kosovo?? You can not occupy your own country. Furthermore, albanians started leaving after NATO's cluster bombs and depleted uranium started falling, and this at the direct orders of the KLA terrorists. 3 million? Right, just like the '100,00 massacred' that Jamie Shea and his compatriots lied about. I don't expect the average Joe in America to be up on politics in the Balkans, but the foreign minister of a neighbouring country should know the facts. This guy has embarrassed himself and shown that he is a total joke.
Well Mr D'Alema. Northern Italy is occupying the south of Italy. Now we have to bomb Rome. That makes just as much sense as the rubbish Mr D'Alema spewed about Kosovo.
Maybe you guys should consider th truth coming out from the mouth of FM of one of most powerfull countries in the world. Maybe its time to wake up and realized that you were told until now that Kosova is Serbia was just a lie and propaganda.
Now, before jumping and calling him names (like you usually do for all those who you dont like), please take into the consideration that Mr. D'Alema was the President of Italy, Foerign affairs Minister of Italy and part of EU's Council of Foreign Affairs. Of course he is someone who knows what he is talking about. And a bunch off bloggers like yourselves have no right to call him names and to doubt what he says.
I would like to know how Serbia occupied Kosovo? It is a part of Serbia. Is it a crime for them to be in Kosovo? They were trying to protect their citizens and a part of their country. To me it sounds like the UN wanted to bomb it to set an example or redirct our focus on other things going on in the US and around the world.
Bob,
Serbs always recognize other people's crimes except their own.
in Kosovo alone...
10,000 murdered by Serb forces
1 million deported by Serb forces
thousands of women raped by Serb forces
thousands of houses destroyed by Serb forces
Thanks Mr. Minister and is better late than never, but we knew this all along that Serbia occupied Kosova far to long. Ops, I almost forgat who said that Italy is against Kosova's Independence?
D'alema's credibility (by the way as a foreign minister he doesn't speak a second language apart from italian, and that says it all!) is below 0 (nista) so i wouldn't worry about him at all.
And he is going on the opposite direction of Prodi the italian prime minister who condammed the 1999 bombing...so there!
I dont know where to start the criticism. First of all, Kosovo was not occupied as it was then, as it is not, an integral part of Serbia, therefore it was ours to defend. Secondly, 3 million refugees with a population of 1.8 million? I guess NATO really does produce these anti-Serb facts out of thin air, as we can see from these inconsistencies in numbers from 1999 and now (800.000 refugees and 3 million respectively)
Ha,ha,ha--
Does he seriosly think just becouse he is in India and giving statements so far from Europe is csoring him points.From personal experience Indians are the smartest and most educated people around, and they are thinking the same thing we do.Thank god we don`t have this guy in the goverment.
Serbia occupied its own territory?
And than, UN ensured this “occupation” continued by endorsing Resolution 1244 ?
I do understand a bit of ignorance but this borders insanity.
Is this gentleman for real?
Serbia should clarify, with Italy, is this the official, government stand on this issue. I hope not.
I am a US Soldier that has served in Kos-Met. The Italian minister could not be farther from the truth, NATO intervened in Afghanistan because that nation supported the attacks of 9-11, NATO invoked article 5 which states that an attack on one NATO ally is an attack on all.
The coalition of the willing intervened in Iraq (right or wrong) for what is perceived as militaristic threats from Iraq to its neighbors and to the world. The same will go for Iran.
How is Kosovo a necessity then? Belgrade was no threat to any NATO member, not a threat to its regional members (seeing as the wars in the balkans ended), and if we are comparing "humanitarian situations", we should have been and should look to places like Somalia, Sudan, Rwanda, Burman, etc.
The world has its priorities out of order. No bombs for oral sex.
This is very interesting and clearly shows the level of thinking in NATO countries at the time. Mr. D'Alema was not interested in the broader interests at the time.
D'Alemae was more concerned over the mafia ties and smuggling of the Albanians in Kosovo and Kosovo Albanian illegal entries into Italy. All the other issues were not worth a penny to them.
I can see that many Serbs or those who support Serbs have gone hysterical about D'Alema's comment. Their main argument..."How can you occupy your own country" and Those refugees fleeing KiM were organized to look like ethnic clensing. They were ordered to leave in mass numbers to get public support from outside world. In reality they were running away from uck.
(Ratko, 17. October 2007 16:52) does not work any more. That is an insult for the war victims. The Serbian logic here about "own country" and "Serbian sovereignity" over Kosova would mean that Serbia will have the right to come and assert its authority anytime they like in Kosova. That is never going to happen and it is another argument whu Kosova should NEVER and NEVER again be part of Serbia. Kosovar Albanians will do everything they can to finalise their aspiration to full independence as NATO did to stop the ethnic cleansing in Kosova.
This is the most sensible thing I have read in this site. Very well done Mr. D’Alema.
Kosovo was occupied by Serbia since 1913, forced to join Yugoslavia 1945 became an equal unit of Yugoslav federation in 1974. Yugoslavia dismembered in 1991, Serbia occupied Kosovo again.
This D‚Alema should find a way to explain to German speaking citizens in Italy‚s South Tirol how come Kosovo can be independent and South Tirol cannot.
D'Alema is right. Kosova was territorially occupied on 1913. This was the first phase. What Serbs did on 1999, was the second phase of that what started on 1913: deported the whole Albanian population from Kosova.
Just like now days Serb politicians aims, KS yes, but without Albanians.
if really whan to know if serbia occupied kosovo or no take a trip to turkey look into ottoman empire history for sure you will find a truth how kosovo got occupied and after some of you really believe and think !?for so long you people being lie from your goverment.
guida: you might brush up on the history of this 'conflict' before you spit inflated numbers and misrepresent in what order events happened. can anybody here prove that the 'exodus' started before nato started dropping bombs on albanian civilians?
Blackbird,
I realise that you might have just come back from the pub 20:18, read the previous comments from the others here and you will realise that I am making my comments based on their statements. Where are your arguments or are you feeling sleepy?
Bob,
Serbs always recognize other people's crimes except their own.
in Kosovo alone...
10,000 murdered by Serb forces
1 million deported by Serb forces
thousands of women raped by Serb forces
thousands of houses destroyed by Serb forces
""The Serbs occupied Kosovo and our aim was to stop the war," he told the paper. "
Does this statement make any sense? Since when are countries not allowed to protect their citizens from terrorists? Oh yes only when it comes to Serbia.
Those refugees fleeing KiM were organized to look like ethnic clensing. They were ordered to leave in mass numbers to get public support from outside world. In reality they were running away from uck.
Thanks Mr. Minister and is better late than never, but we knew this all along that Serbia occupied Kosova far to long. Ops, I almost forgat who said that Italy is against Kosova's Independence?
Maybe you guys should consider th truth coming out from the mouth of FM of one of most powerfull countries in the world. Maybe its time to wake up and realized that you were told until now that Kosova is Serbia was just a lie and propaganda.
Now, before jumping and calling him names (like you usually do for all those who you dont like), please take into the consideration that Mr. D'Alema was the President of Italy, Foerign affairs Minister of Italy and part of EU's Council of Foreign Affairs. Of course he is someone who knows what he is talking about. And a bunch off bloggers like yourselves have no right to call him names and to doubt what he says.
constitution of 1974 gave Kosova their own parliament and self goverment. However, in the '90 Milosevics forces desolved the parliament and jailed most of the representatives. This was done of course using military and police.
What do you call this? An invitation for lunch or an occupation? Mr. Dalema is right Serbia occupied Kosova and desolved its constitutional parliament by pure force. After the '90 Kosova was occupied territory, albanians were fired from all goverment jobs, albanian schools were closed... PEOPLE, WHAT DOES OCCUPATION LOOK LIKE?
I can see that many Serbs or those who support Serbs have gone hysterical about D'Alema's comment. Their main argument..."How can you occupy your own country" and Those refugees fleeing KiM were organized to look like ethnic clensing. They were ordered to leave in mass numbers to get public support from outside world. In reality they were running away from uck.
(Ratko, 17. October 2007 16:52) does not work any more. That is an insult for the war victims. The Serbian logic here about "own country" and "Serbian sovereignity" over Kosova would mean that Serbia will have the right to come and assert its authority anytime they like in Kosova. That is never going to happen and it is another argument whu Kosova should NEVER and NEVER again be part of Serbia. Kosovar Albanians will do everything they can to finalise their aspiration to full independence as NATO did to stop the ethnic cleansing in Kosova.
Shame on you, D'Alema, for your ignorance about these matters. You should just keep quiet rather than show yourself up.
"The Serbs occupied Kosovo..."
How can they occupy their own country?!
"We tried to use diplomacy but we failed."
No, the Serbian delegation signed the Paris agreement and diplomacy was by no means at an end. The only sticking point was Appendix B of the Ramboillet treaty which would have permitted Nato troops free movement throughout Serbia. This was unsignable and could have been changed/ negotiated (to perhaps UN troops).
"...said the minister, adding that the European Union had the Security Council resolution before entering Kosovo."
This guy knows less about this than I do about the offside rules in football!
Ha,ha,ha--
Does he seriosly think just becouse he is in India and giving statements so far from Europe is csoring him points.From personal experience Indians are the smartest and most educated people around, and they are thinking the same thing we do.Thank god we don`t have this guy in the goverment.
D'Alema is right. Kosova was territorially occupied on 1913. This was the first phase. What Serbs did on 1999, was the second phase of that what started on 1913: deported the whole Albanian population from Kosova.
Just like now days Serb politicians aims, KS yes, but without Albanians.
once again someone is taking remarks out of context as it seems.
Mr. D´Alema would not be so stupid to say that Serbia occupied Kosovo, since almost the whole world by now knows that Kosovo was, and still is a part of Serbia.
so, it´s clear that someone is looking to initiate some new dispute about remarks that very likely didn´t take place.
Bravo B92 for that level of journalism! I get the impression as if you are still a bunch of students, driving some old VW-busses through the streets of Belgrade...
hard to believe, but your info-service gives that impression.
I'm puzzled how Serbs can occupy its own territory. Nobody should take this seriously because obviously his statements are irrelevant since now suddenly its 3 million refugees. He is off by how much?
In 1999, during criminal attack on Serbia, D'Alema was President of Council of Ministers. He is probably fully aware of his own responsibility
for the death of 2500 civilians in Serbia.
But being a Communist, he does not allow the facts to become obstacle for him, so he explans that Serbia occupied Kosovo (i.e. herself) and that's why Serbia was bombed.
I wonder what Italian soldiers who guard Christian shrines in Kosovo from destruction think about Comrade D'Alema.
Is this guy really a foreign minister? What a joke! Serbs 'occupied' Kosovo?? You can not occupy your own country. Furthermore, albanians started leaving after NATO's cluster bombs and depleted uranium started falling, and this at the direct orders of the KLA terrorists. 3 million? Right, just like the '100,00 massacred' that Jamie Shea and his compatriots lied about. I don't expect the average Joe in America to be up on politics in the Balkans, but the foreign minister of a neighbouring country should know the facts. This guy has embarrassed himself and shown that he is a total joke.
Serbia occupied its own territory?
And than, UN ensured this “occupation” continued by endorsing Resolution 1244 ?
I do understand a bit of ignorance but this borders insanity.
Is this gentleman for real?
Serbia should clarify, with Italy, is this the official, government stand on this issue. I hope not.
This is the most sensible thing I have read in this site. Very well done Mr. D’Alema.
Kosovo was occupied by Serbia since 1913, forced to join Yugoslavia 1945 became an equal unit of Yugoslav federation in 1974. Yugoslavia dismembered in 1991, Serbia occupied Kosovo again.
Well Mr D'Alema. Northern Italy is occupying the south of Italy. Now we have to bomb Rome. That makes just as much sense as the rubbish Mr D'Alema spewed about Kosovo.
Q: However, as Prime Minister during the Kosovo crisis, you supported the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia. In retrospect, was that wrong?
A:Kosovo was very different. The Serbians had occupied (1) Kosovo and our goal was to stop the war (2). We tried diplomacy (3); it failed. When NATO attacked, there was a Serbian occupation (1) on and 3,00,000(sic) (4) refugees had fled to Albania. And before entering Kosovo, the E.U. also obtained a Security Council resolution.(5)
(1) "Serbians" are native to Kosovo and hadn't occupied what is part of their own country be it Yugoslavia or Serbia.
(2) There was a low level civil war, which NATO turned into a full scale war by siding with the KLA.
(3) Rambouillet was hardly diplomacy and more like an ultimatum.
(4) This is how it is printed. Cannot tell if it is meant to be 30,000 or 300,000. Obviously 3 million it couldn't of been.
(5)The was no UN security council that allowed the use of force. The UNSC resolution stopped the war and guaranteed that Kosovo was part of Serbia.
I would like to know how Serbia occupied Kosovo? It is a part of Serbia. Is it a crime for them to be in Kosovo? They were trying to protect their citizens and a part of their country. To me it sounds like the UN wanted to bomb it to set an example or redirct our focus on other things going on in the US and around the world.
D'alema's credibility (by the way as a foreign minister he doesn't speak a second language apart from italian, and that says it all!) is below 0 (nista) so i wouldn't worry about him at all.
And he is going on the opposite direction of Prodi the italian prime minister who condammed the 1999 bombing...so there!
I dont know where to start the criticism. First of all, Kosovo was not occupied as it was then, as it is not, an integral part of Serbia, therefore it was ours to defend. Secondly, 3 million refugees with a population of 1.8 million? I guess NATO really does produce these anti-Serb facts out of thin air, as we can see from these inconsistencies in numbers from 1999 and now (800.000 refugees and 3 million respectively)
This is very interesting and clearly shows the level of thinking in NATO countries at the time. Mr. D'Alema was not interested in the broader interests at the time.
D'Alemae was more concerned over the mafia ties and smuggling of the Albanians in Kosovo and Kosovo Albanian illegal entries into Italy. All the other issues were not worth a penny to them.
guida: you might brush up on the history of this 'conflict' before you spit inflated numbers and misrepresent in what order events happened. can anybody here prove that the 'exodus' started before nato started dropping bombs on albanian civilians?
if really whan to know if serbia occupied kosovo or no take a trip to turkey look into ottoman empire history for sure you will find a truth how kosovo got occupied and after some of you really believe and think !?for so long you people being lie from your goverment.
I am a US Soldier that has served in Kos-Met. The Italian minister could not be farther from the truth, NATO intervened in Afghanistan because that nation supported the attacks of 9-11, NATO invoked article 5 which states that an attack on one NATO ally is an attack on all.
The coalition of the willing intervened in Iraq (right or wrong) for what is perceived as militaristic threats from Iraq to its neighbors and to the world. The same will go for Iran.
How is Kosovo a necessity then? Belgrade was no threat to any NATO member, not a threat to its regional members (seeing as the wars in the balkans ended), and if we are comparing "humanitarian situations", we should have been and should look to places like Somalia, Sudan, Rwanda, Burman, etc.
The world has its priorities out of order. No bombs for oral sex.
This D‚Alema should find a way to explain to German speaking citizens in Italy‚s South Tirol how come Kosovo can be independent and South Tirol cannot.
Blackbird,
I realise that you might have just come back from the pub 20:18, read the previous comments from the others here and you will realise that I am making my comments based on their statements. Where are your arguments or are you feeling sleepy?
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