8000 killed in Srebrenica is not a conclusive number it is just widely popular in western media. Originally the numbers were 3000-8000 and obviously the propaganda pushed for 8000. But the numbers are still unknown since graves are yet to be uncovered.
Under #7, 16 October 2007 18.05 you allowed somebody to write in my name. How can you allow such thing? Your clarification would be greatly appreciated.
Modern Western society does not understand/comprehend the true nature of ISLAM.
Islam asserts that fighting a "holy war" to extend the territory controlled by Islam or to defend such territory already governed by Islam is mandated by the Archangel Gabriel's revelation to Mohammad and is the obligation of all men capable of doing so.
The fourteenth-century Muslim theologian, Ibn Taymiyya, wrote: "Nothing in the law of Muhammad states that the blood of the unbeliever is equal to the blood of the Muslim, because faith is necessary for equality" (Almahdy). Therefore, the killing or murder of a non-Muslim is not a capital crime. Non-believers ("pagans") are required to convert to Islam - on penalty of death. "Make war on them [i.e., against all non-Muslims] until idolatry is no more and god's religion reigns supreme" (Sura 8:39). All impediments to the spread of Islam must be removed - through the tongue, the pen, or the sword! From its very founding by Mohammad, Islam turned its political boundaries with the outside world (almost all of which were Christian) into a perpetual war zone. Before Islam, Christianity covered the entire ancient province of Asia, extending across the Caucasus to the Caspian Sea, Syria with all of the Holy Land, and a wide belt of North Africa all the way to the Atlantic Ocean as well as Europe. At the time of Mohammad's rise to power, most of the early medieval Christians lived in Asia Minor and Africa (which gave us countless Church Fathers and Martyrs) rather than Europe.
Jews and Christians, as "people of the Book" and thus not true pagans, are allowed a limited amount of religious autonomy but are still subjects of conversion. They are, however, inferior to the True Believer (i.e., Muslim) and thus required to pay "jizya" (a special tax) and subject to certain social and legal restrictions. This dhimmis status is still enforced today in all Islamic-controlled nations.
In most Islamic countries (e.g., Saudi Arabia) non-Muslims are forbidden any public expression of their faith (thus explaining the destruction of ancient Christian Church buildings currently in Iraq by the followers of Islam); evangelism (with the goal of converting a Muslim) is punishable by death; and any Muslim who embraces Christianity may be killed by another Muslim without penalty (Almahdy). This is a far cry from the Christian teaching illustrated by Christ's parable of the Good Samaritan. I will strike terror into the hearts of unbelievers, smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips off them. (Sura 8:13-17).
The sacred law of Islam indicates that Islam is more than a "religion" in the Western sense of that term. That is, Islam certainly deals with ritual and worship and doctrine but also regulates the total behavior of the individual as (1) a member of a family, (2) a member of society, and (3) a citizen of a State. Where Islam dominates, it CONTROLS religion, culture, and politics. The idea of the "separation of Church and State" is totally incomprehensible to a pious Muslim. Islam is a total way of life; within Islam all institutions are "religious." The State itself is just another religious institution; its constitution and laws, of necessity, are assumed to be based upon the Shari'a (the religio-moral values of Islam). Shari'a includes all human action: public and private law, national and international law, details of religious ritual and ethics of social conduct. Every action (or inaction) falls under one of five categories of Shari'a: (1) What is commanded (by god); (2) What is recommended (by god); (3) What is legally indifferent (to god); (4) What is condemned or censured (by god); and (5) What is strongly and positively forbidden (by god). And this is all grounded in what the pious Muslim believes to be "immutable divine revelation."
Today we are losing this undeclared (unrecognized?) war against Islam).
A church is a place of faith that tries to bring out the best in people as well as advocation of peace. Attacking it would be pointless just as much as it would be shameless.
On the other hand, I can only imagine that if 8 000 of my people were gunned down in my own town, I doubt I would see reasoning or rationality in any of my actions towards artifacts of that group in question.
The recent history of the Balkans is a gruesome one, the EU would be an excellent remedy for the region, something to counter this overt nationalism that has cost the lives of so many people.
Association President Branislav Dukic said that the report had been brought
into question when a list emerged of 954 members of the Bosnian Muslim army
who had died prior to the Srebrenica massacre.
"From the very beginning we suspected the authenticity of the list included
in the commission's report. It seems that all those killed in Srebrenica
between 1992 and July 1995 were put on the list of those who died in July
1995," he explained.
You asked where were they when "12,000" people got killed.? They were busy trying to protect the rest of Christian population from mujahedins.And stop playing with numbers,you are no good at it.
Joe, what does that mean? Now people can just harass any Serb because of a supposed attrocity? I love your logic. I think I might go beat up some Germans now. It is your thinking that starts stuff like this.
Hey Joe, where did you get the figure of 12,000? Lets say more like 6,000, many of whom have actually charged serbian lines. The ones who were killed were men of military age, who had killed thousands of serbs in the srebrenica area over the past few years prior to the 1995 event.
What disturbs me in this article is that Serbs are a minority in the Municipality. I am almost sure that that is not true... I thought that we were a majority with about 60% of the population for the entire municipality - maybe not the town itself.
I misread about the Serbian being the minority, I thought it said that but it actually says majority, thank god. It's a hard issue, considering that there is little population data available.
Bulob, you suggest that the article on B92 is biased... who says that the article on the bosniak avaz news is not biased?
And protection they should get.We all know about vahabis running around and we all know that Oric and his men are still around.
And no Christian is safe around them.
Was this a publicity stunt made to persuade Serbs endorse police reforms??? I'm sure the idea of police reforms has never been more popular with Bosnian Serbs.
And protection they should get.We all know about vahabis running around and we all know that Oric and his men are still around.
And no Christian is safe around them.
Hey Joe, where did you get the figure of 12,000? Lets say more like 6,000, many of whom have actually charged serbian lines. The ones who were killed were men of military age, who had killed thousands of serbs in the srebrenica area over the past few years prior to the 1995 event.
What disturbs me in this article is that Serbs are a minority in the Municipality. I am almost sure that that is not true... I thought that we were a majority with about 60% of the population for the entire municipality - maybe not the town itself.
I misread about the Serbian being the minority, I thought it said that but it actually says majority, thank god. It's a hard issue, considering that there is little population data available.
Bulob, you suggest that the article on B92 is biased... who says that the article on the bosniak avaz news is not biased?
You asked where were they when "12,000" people got killed.? They were busy trying to protect the rest of Christian population from mujahedins.And stop playing with numbers,you are no good at it.
Joe, what does that mean? Now people can just harass any Serb because of a supposed attrocity? I love your logic. I think I might go beat up some Germans now. It is your thinking that starts stuff like this.
Association President Branislav Dukic said that the report had been brought
into question when a list emerged of 954 members of the Bosnian Muslim army
who had died prior to the Srebrenica massacre.
"From the very beginning we suspected the authenticity of the list included
in the commission's report. It seems that all those killed in Srebrenica
between 1992 and July 1995 were put on the list of those who died in July
1995," he explained.
Was this a publicity stunt made to persuade Serbs endorse police reforms??? I'm sure the idea of police reforms has never been more popular with Bosnian Serbs.
A church is a place of faith that tries to bring out the best in people as well as advocation of peace. Attacking it would be pointless just as much as it would be shameless.
On the other hand, I can only imagine that if 8 000 of my people were gunned down in my own town, I doubt I would see reasoning or rationality in any of my actions towards artifacts of that group in question.
The recent history of the Balkans is a gruesome one, the EU would be an excellent remedy for the region, something to counter this overt nationalism that has cost the lives of so many people.
Modern Western society does not understand/comprehend the true nature of ISLAM.
Islam asserts that fighting a "holy war" to extend the territory controlled by Islam or to defend such territory already governed by Islam is mandated by the Archangel Gabriel's revelation to Mohammad and is the obligation of all men capable of doing so.
The fourteenth-century Muslim theologian, Ibn Taymiyya, wrote: "Nothing in the law of Muhammad states that the blood of the unbeliever is equal to the blood of the Muslim, because faith is necessary for equality" (Almahdy). Therefore, the killing or murder of a non-Muslim is not a capital crime. Non-believers ("pagans") are required to convert to Islam - on penalty of death. "Make war on them [i.e., against all non-Muslims] until idolatry is no more and god's religion reigns supreme" (Sura 8:39). All impediments to the spread of Islam must be removed - through the tongue, the pen, or the sword! From its very founding by Mohammad, Islam turned its political boundaries with the outside world (almost all of which were Christian) into a perpetual war zone. Before Islam, Christianity covered the entire ancient province of Asia, extending across the Caucasus to the Caspian Sea, Syria with all of the Holy Land, and a wide belt of North Africa all the way to the Atlantic Ocean as well as Europe. At the time of Mohammad's rise to power, most of the early medieval Christians lived in Asia Minor and Africa (which gave us countless Church Fathers and Martyrs) rather than Europe.
Jews and Christians, as "people of the Book" and thus not true pagans, are allowed a limited amount of religious autonomy but are still subjects of conversion. They are, however, inferior to the True Believer (i.e., Muslim) and thus required to pay "jizya" (a special tax) and subject to certain social and legal restrictions. This dhimmis status is still enforced today in all Islamic-controlled nations.
In most Islamic countries (e.g., Saudi Arabia) non-Muslims are forbidden any public expression of their faith (thus explaining the destruction of ancient Christian Church buildings currently in Iraq by the followers of Islam); evangelism (with the goal of converting a Muslim) is punishable by death; and any Muslim who embraces Christianity may be killed by another Muslim without penalty (Almahdy). This is a far cry from the Christian teaching illustrated by Christ's parable of the Good Samaritan. I will strike terror into the hearts of unbelievers, smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips off them. (Sura 8:13-17).
The sacred law of Islam indicates that Islam is more than a "religion" in the Western sense of that term. That is, Islam certainly deals with ritual and worship and doctrine but also regulates the total behavior of the individual as (1) a member of a family, (2) a member of society, and (3) a citizen of a State. Where Islam dominates, it CONTROLS religion, culture, and politics. The idea of the "separation of Church and State" is totally incomprehensible to a pious Muslim. Islam is a total way of life; within Islam all institutions are "religious." The State itself is just another religious institution; its constitution and laws, of necessity, are assumed to be based upon the Shari'a (the religio-moral values of Islam). Shari'a includes all human action: public and private law, national and international law, details of religious ritual and ethics of social conduct. Every action (or inaction) falls under one of five categories of Shari'a: (1) What is commanded (by god); (2) What is recommended (by god); (3) What is legally indifferent (to god); (4) What is condemned or censured (by god); and (5) What is strongly and positively forbidden (by god). And this is all grounded in what the pious Muslim believes to be "immutable divine revelation."
Today we are losing this undeclared (unrecognized?) war against Islam).
Under #7, 16 October 2007 18.05 you allowed somebody to write in my name. How can you allow such thing? Your clarification would be greatly appreciated.
8000 killed in Srebrenica is not a conclusive number it is just widely popular in western media. Originally the numbers were 3000-8000 and obviously the propaganda pushed for 8000. But the numbers are still unknown since graves are yet to be uncovered.
Modern Western society does not understand/comprehend the true nature of ISLAM.
Islam asserts that fighting a "holy war" to extend the territory controlled by Islam or to defend such territory already governed by Islam is mandated by the Archangel Gabriel's revelation to Mohammad and is the obligation of all men capable of doing so.
The fourteenth-century Muslim theologian, Ibn Taymiyya, wrote: "Nothing in the law of Muhammad states that the blood of the unbeliever is equal to the blood of the Muslim, because faith is necessary for equality" (Almahdy). Therefore, the killing or murder of a non-Muslim is not a capital crime. Non-believers ("pagans") are required to convert to Islam - on penalty of death. "Make war on them [i.e., against all non-Muslims] until idolatry is no more and god's religion reigns supreme" (Sura 8:39). All impediments to the spread of Islam must be removed - through the tongue, the pen, or the sword! From its very founding by Mohammad, Islam turned its political boundaries with the outside world (almost all of which were Christian) into a perpetual war zone. Before Islam, Christianity covered the entire ancient province of Asia, extending across the Caucasus to the Caspian Sea, Syria with all of the Holy Land, and a wide belt of North Africa all the way to the Atlantic Ocean as well as Europe. At the time of Mohammad's rise to power, most of the early medieval Christians lived in Asia Minor and Africa (which gave us countless Church Fathers and Martyrs) rather than Europe.
Jews and Christians, as "people of the Book" and thus not true pagans, are allowed a limited amount of religious autonomy but are still subjects of conversion. They are, however, inferior to the True Believer (i.e., Muslim) and thus required to pay "jizya" (a special tax) and subject to certain social and legal restrictions. This dhimmis status is still enforced today in all Islamic-controlled nations.
In most Islamic countries (e.g., Saudi Arabia) non-Muslims are forbidden any public expression of their faith (thus explaining the destruction of ancient Christian Church buildings currently in Iraq by the followers of Islam); evangelism (with the goal of converting a Muslim) is punishable by death; and any Muslim who embraces Christianity may be killed by another Muslim without penalty (Almahdy). This is a far cry from the Christian teaching illustrated by Christ's parable of the Good Samaritan. I will strike terror into the hearts of unbelievers, smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips off them. (Sura 8:13-17).
The sacred law of Islam indicates that Islam is more than a "religion" in the Western sense of that term. That is, Islam certainly deals with ritual and worship and doctrine but also regulates the total behavior of the individual as (1) a member of a family, (2) a member of society, and (3) a citizen of a State. Where Islam dominates, it CONTROLS religion, culture, and politics. The idea of the "separation of Church and State" is totally incomprehensible to a pious Muslim. Islam is a total way of life; within Islam all institutions are "religious." The State itself is just another religious institution; its constitution and laws, of necessity, are assumed to be based upon the Shari'a (the religio-moral values of Islam). Shari'a includes all human action: public and private law, national and international law, details of religious ritual and ethics of social conduct. Every action (or inaction) falls under one of five categories of Shari'a: (1) What is commanded (by god); (2) What is recommended (by god); (3) What is legally indifferent (to god); (4) What is condemned or censured (by god); and (5) What is strongly and positively forbidden (by god). And this is all grounded in what the pious Muslim believes to be "immutable divine revelation."
Today we are losing this undeclared (unrecognized?) war against Islam).
Under #7, 16 October 2007 18.05 you allowed somebody to write in my name. How can you allow such thing? Your clarification would be greatly appreciated.
And protection they should get.We all know about vahabis running around and we all know that Oric and his men are still around.
And no Christian is safe around them.
Association President Branislav Dukic said that the report had been brought
into question when a list emerged of 954 members of the Bosnian Muslim army
who had died prior to the Srebrenica massacre.
"From the very beginning we suspected the authenticity of the list included
in the commission's report. It seems that all those killed in Srebrenica
between 1992 and July 1995 were put on the list of those who died in July
1995," he explained.
Was this a publicity stunt made to persuade Serbs endorse police reforms??? I'm sure the idea of police reforms has never been more popular with Bosnian Serbs.
Hey Joe, where did you get the figure of 12,000? Lets say more like 6,000, many of whom have actually charged serbian lines. The ones who were killed were men of military age, who had killed thousands of serbs in the srebrenica area over the past few years prior to the 1995 event.
What disturbs me in this article is that Serbs are a minority in the Municipality. I am almost sure that that is not true... I thought that we were a majority with about 60% of the population for the entire municipality - maybe not the town itself.
I misread about the Serbian being the minority, I thought it said that but it actually says majority, thank god. It's a hard issue, considering that there is little population data available.
Bulob, you suggest that the article on B92 is biased... who says that the article on the bosniak avaz news is not biased?
You asked where were they when "12,000" people got killed.? They were busy trying to protect the rest of Christian population from mujahedins.And stop playing with numbers,you are no good at it.
Joe, what does that mean? Now people can just harass any Serb because of a supposed attrocity? I love your logic. I think I might go beat up some Germans now. It is your thinking that starts stuff like this.
A church is a place of faith that tries to bring out the best in people as well as advocation of peace. Attacking it would be pointless just as much as it would be shameless.
On the other hand, I can only imagine that if 8 000 of my people were gunned down in my own town, I doubt I would see reasoning or rationality in any of my actions towards artifacts of that group in question.
The recent history of the Balkans is a gruesome one, the EU would be an excellent remedy for the region, something to counter this overt nationalism that has cost the lives of so many people.
8000 killed in Srebrenica is not a conclusive number it is just widely popular in western media. Originally the numbers were 3000-8000 and obviously the propaganda pushed for 8000. But the numbers are still unknown since graves are yet to be uncovered.
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