UK looks to avoid unilateral Kosovo moves

In the end, the West will tell KiM albanians to wait another year, and then another, and so forth, till they are told to behave like any minority in the world.

It looks like the Americans have enlisted the help of their best allies to 'break the bad news' to the albanians lightly. I guess after repeatedly putting their foot in their mouth, Condi, Cowboy George, Wisner, Burns....just can't look the albanians in the eye and tell them, 'sorry guys, we have done all we could.

I do think that B92 missed the real title in this article!!!
UK has not change its stance at all. They are, actually trying to COORDINATE the DE FACTO INDEPENDENCE from Serbia!

“This is reliable information according to which the British, along with the Americans and French, are already working through diplomatic channels in order to get EU member states to show readiness to unilaterally recognize a new Albanian state in the Balkans,” the daily states.

How can the EU recognize a "new albanian state" when albania has no rights to Serbian land? This is really a mess & blasphemous!

Agim: ""Britain's attitude could also be gauged by the fact that it offered one of the finest rooms in the Foreign Office, the Locarno Room, for the Kosovan news conference".(source BBC)

Read the above paragraph and tell me how UK has changed its stance regarding Kosova."

Agim - You are easily bought aren't you? Being treated like that is not necessarily good news in the world of politics and business. Never heard of 'sugaring the pill'?

We Brits are masters at that, hence the excellent spies and spinmeisters through history. Then again in all countries politicians smile charmingly and speak politely while saying something else altogether.

I agree with Dragan that Britain is being used by the US to soften the blow.

germany and italy made up their mind long time ago and told us so.

is there realy one single albanian who thinks this time usa won´t let them down? the same usa that ordered croatia and montenegro to build refugee camps and to not make any trouble with the so-called "unmik-passport"?

is there realy one single albanian who believes that kosovo is more important then bosnia, georgia or ukraine?

is there realy one single albanian who believes that kosovo is more important then the energy security of western europe?

THIS is the time to tell the pristinars the truth. world media is focused on kosovo, so this "elections" could - for the first time - bring the winner into politics and not a us-puppet because of dubious coalitions.

GSP,

Barbaric and blasphemous were the crimes committed against K-Albanians in 1999. As a result Serbia forfeited Kosovo, received as a present anyway 100 years ago. So the unilateral proclamation and recognition of independent Kosovo - overdue for years - will be one of the most natural and logical thinks in today's world.

Now, even the albanian "best friends" are trying to tell them in a light way that they have been duped.

OK AGIM and REST OF ALBANS
- US and UK have come to the understanding that they desperately need Russian support for oher issues. Mainly IRAN. So they are conceeding to Russia with no missiles in Eastern Europe and No independence for Kosovo. Small price to pay to keep world order and law.

CCCC

"Britain's attitude could also be gauged by the fact that it offered one of the finest rooms in the Foreign Office, the Locarno Room, for the Kosovan news conference".(source BBC)

Read the above paragraph and tell me how UK has changed its stance regarding Kosova.

Lazer

I think you misunderstand this article. UK is telling Kosovo Albanians not to declare unilateral independence until they are in the state to convince all nations of the EU to recognize independence unilaterally (because there are five EU states that will not recognize an independent Kosovo with endorsement from the UNSC) since the Kosovo Albanians have threatened to do so.

Because if Kosovo does declare unilateral independence and the EU is not unified, it will simply mean that Kosovo will not only be unable to join the UN, but also the EU, because one of the principles of membership is that all states of the EU accept Kosovo as a member. How do you see this happening if five EU states don't even recognize the statehood of Kosovo?

Even little Cyprus has the power to veto something like Turkey joining the EU...

"Raso, I would rather be an inmate in Guantanamo bay than a citizen of Serbia.
(KS, 10. October 2007 17:46) "

KS,

So why are you applying for a Serbian passport?

Pyrros, the Kosova delegation team went to London to have an agreement with the FMO-UK on pre-agreement to Kosova's Independance and they got that. David Milliband concluded that "if the talks fail we will need to move forward with the Ahtisari Plan" (source BBC), which means independance hence why you have the EU buying and setting up shop all over Kosova for their part in the "supervised" section of our Independance.

Pyrros; Minoroties some other community within your current boarders and i'm sure you will get i.e. Vojvodina walking out of the union as well.

"Amid those declarations by American officials, we are asking ourselves: what's the point of the negotiations when the outcome is already known?" Samardzic said."

I would agree, but Serb camp persisting that "independence has become a myth."


Raso, I would rather be an inmate in Guantanamo bay than a citizen of Serbia.

Nick wrote:" UK & Western Countries will have no choice but to recognize us.

The west has invested billions in Kosovo"

my dear Nick, if that is your greatest hope...you are really lost.

the US alone are spending more in Iraq every single month than in Kosovo in a year, so don´t put your hopes on that weak argument of finanical investments...

you could be disappointed in the end, since they do indeed have a choice whether to recognize a toy-"republic" or not.

Thats better B92.
Hope you dont mind, sometimes even the moderators and editors need to stand corrected.
The one before was totally out of context.

Guys, you are right, EU is trying to "avoid" Kosova/o Independence, but they all are racing to rent and build new Embassies in Prishtina.
I guess the Real Estate market In Prishtina is booming.

OSCE should also be dispatched in Serbia's areas of Preshevo Valley, Sandjak, and Vojvodina to see what kind of human rights abuses and others take place to non-Serb population.
If the Serbian MINORITY in Kosova/o is going to have this kind of protection, everybody else should have the same.

As per this article, I thing is written out of no facts whatsoever, taking the Kosova/o team visit to 10 Downing street as a pretext to water down the real reason why they were there in a first place.
The West: USA and EU are only trying to coordinate so they all are on the same page.
The recognition of Kosova/o Independence is going to have this scenario:
It will happen in waves, first US and GB, France, Germany, and Italy, then the less important countries like Spain, Portugal, etc.
On the other side, Albania, Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia and most of the Arab Countries, and of course Israel as a key player, which I will persuade just like in case of Croatia.
How is that soun???

How does the following excerpt from the above article match the title of the article?

"This is reliable information according to which the British, along with the Americans and French, are already working through diplomatic channels in order to get EU member states to show readiness to unilaterally recognize a new Albanian state in the Balkans,”

Maybe those serbs who were so excited about being friends with British again can explain!

Agim i think they did that because were showing respect to the vistors. If they have not given a press briefing no one knows what was said. Sir so please don't try to put words out that have not been spoken.

NATO-member Turkey will invade Iraq (occupied by... US!). Because it does not want the Kurds to break away.

NATO-member Turkey was bombing Serbia so the Albanians can (could) break away.

Can someone explain!

Also: Taiwanese president made harsh statement: China and Taiwain are two seperate states.

Where is Bush to support this guy?

First and foremost it is KOSOVO not Kosova. Just take a look at the history of Kosovo. It seems to me that the British goverment isn't being used by the US they just have changed their minds about having kosovo become independent. I really beleive that it will never become independent because of the fact that Serbians are relentless. As for the albanians claming independence without being recognized by all members of the EU, it's not independent, regardless of what you have made up in your own minds.

The Kosova Albanians are not interested in unilateral moves either. But if reasoning with Serbia and Russia fails then we will have no choice but to declare independence and the UK & Western Countries will have no choice but to recognize us.

The west has invested billions in Kosova, and they wont let all those investments simply dissapear simply becasue Russia simply feeling like promoting slavic brotherhood and such.

It is obvious that the Kosovar Albanians will behave smartly. Kosova is already independent. I personally would take the approach of coordinating the actions with the European allies such as UK, France,Italy and Germany without mentioning the USA. We are not talking here about months or years of delays. We are talking for a natural approach to this European issue without falling in the Serbo-Russia trap to frustrate Kosova's patient to its limit, destebilising the region and bring the ultimate argument to devide Kosova.

Raso: The fact that the US allegedly asked Croatia to be ready for K -Albanian refugees would reflect badly on your government, nothing more and nothing less.
And you all seem to be a bit confused about what is going on. What the UK, US, France etc are arguing about are the means to and end and not the end itself. They have all made it absolutely clear that independence is gonna be the end result. However they are still discussing how to get there. So I don't think your enthusiasm is really justified although you claim to have been told by the Germans that they have already made their mind up. From what I have heard ad read in the German press Germany has some qualms about independence without an SC resolution and not about the fact that Kosova should get independence.
So what is gonna happen Raso is that Kosova will declare unilateral independence and some time afterwards, when that has become a fact everyone will come on board and recognize it. The more time passes by the more hopeless Serbia's cause will be Raso. After all it is hard to imagine a situation 20 or 30 years from now when anyone will lend any support to Serbia's claim on Kosova. You might as well give up now.

Barbaric and blasphemous were the crimes committed against K-Albanians in 1999. As a result Serbia forfeited Kosovo, received as a present anyway 100 years ago. So the unilateral proclamation and recognition of independent Kosovo - overdue for years - will be one of the most natural and logical thinks in today's world.
(Joe, 10. October 2007 15:11)

& you're completely innocent? I think not. You need to take the finger you point at the Serbs continually & point it towards yourself. If you didn't tread on holy soil (KosovO) this conversation, nor any atrocities would have been committed.

Cheers & touche.

Lazer, "Less important countries like Spaint etc"!!!!. If these countries are less important, then where does that leave Kosovo as a country? In comparison you are only a blimp on the radar.
Not any any position to demand like a toddle throwing a tantrum.

KS,
"I would rather be an inmate in Guantanamo bay than a citizen of Serbia.
If you declare independence illegally and cause trouble you will have a big problem with the UN (US), as even they will not sit back and let you fire on NATO. You might just get your wish.
From what I've seen of Guantanamo bay, it's a great place to visit but do you really want to live there?

don't worry
as i do not want to have our national day in winter_too cold in kosova,that's not smart for the festivities!_i prefer to wait for spring:mars and april are nice in kosova ;)!
don't worry ,be happy because we will decide when and where independence will happen,we the ones who live in kosova!
never again serbia in kosova,that's sure!

to serbs:
have you not yet understand? for centuries you tried to have kosova only for you:you killed us,expelled us,burnt us but you never succeded!
My grand mother in a life time had her house burned seven time:each time the house was rebuilt,better larger!
so ,if you think that because the independence will not happen in december_what i hope just because it is not pleasant to have ceremonies in décember!_you will get rid of the albanians,your are all fooling yourselves!some
radical albanians even ask us to "stay " in serbia ,just as your gvt asks some of you to stay in mitrovica!

Oh dear dear me. Always the same, we're right your wrong. Then a few foriegners jump i with their views. Just like me!

Well I worked in Kosovo/KiM for almost 4 years - working with Albanians, Serbs, Roma, Ashkali, Bosniacs, Brits, Yanks, French, Pakistanis (police that is) ect.

Independence? well what else is there. First Serbian political leaders messed up, the Albanian political leaders messed up. How about this for an idea. Both groups come to the realisation that nationality does not matter, that a bigger europe has been created over the past few centuries that no longer cares so much about ethnic labels. almost. Both sides need to understand the concerns and fears of the otherm then find a way to lessen those fears. Instead of playing a zero sum game. K/Albanins now need to provide real secuirty for Serbs wanting to live in Kosovo. If your a Serb do you fancy walking around Peja/Pec? Prob not. If your an Albanian a quick Slivo in Nis? Probably you'd be fine. In Zubin Potok?? Not quite sure. Is this me being silly, suggesting that you stop fighting each other finally? It has to stop somewhere.

Thought for the day: Your all going to join a new Yugoslavia anyway: the EU.

Now this is an interesting version of an article that was reported in BBC yesterday, saying Britain had all but assured Kosovo's leaders of unilateral support. Now we hear Britain is backtracking?

Whatever the outcome, it's becoming painfully obvious there will be a major hurdle to pass after December 10. Pristina is testing the winds right now to see who would be onboard their unilateral express. They know they've got Washington and Tirana. They're pretty sure of London and Paris, but the rest of the League of European Super Friends is not to definitive.

At the same time, it's becoming equally obvious that Brussels is going to dig deeper into its grab bag of concessions to throw at both Belgrade and Pristina, in the hopes of reaching a negotiated settlement that all can readily agree on. A declaration may be announced, but Belgrade will certainly not walk away from the table empty-handed.

"Raso, I would rather be an inmate in Guantanamo bay than a citizen of Serbia.
(KS, 10. October 2007 17:46) "

KS,

So why are you applying for a Serbian passport?
(Ratko, 10. October 2007 19:18)

I'm not I have an American passport. Also your facts that 500k Kosovars have Serbian passport, that facts includes K-Serbs.

KS you said that 500K people from Kosovo have Serbian passports and that includes the K-Serbs. That still outnumbers the Serbian population there by a lot.
That number of Serbian passport holders just keeps rising as we speak.

GSP,

You got it right my boy. I am innocent. I was never in Kosovo. I am not an Albanian. I have only deep sympathies for them for all the sufferings they went through.
The only holly soil I have tread on was Medjugorje in Hercegovina. As I heard the Serbs wanted to bomb the church but by miracle the normally clear sky was covered with clauds. Because of no visibility those nice Serbs had to give up.

I notice alot of the posters here do not even live in Serbia or Kosovo. LOL, running mouth about a land you don't not even live in and do not face the day to day frustration.

The U.S. Office in Pristina has started constructing the Visa Issuing Section. The rest is silence.

To B92

It is very disrespectful to allow comments from individuals which refer to Kosovo as Kosova to be published.
The term Kosova is designed to irritate all who uphold the international law. If Kosovo becomes independent, then and only then the term Kosova should be allowed.
Until then it is agreeing with the K-Albanians that it is legitimately Kososva.

Until all learn to respect the soverenty of a country by referring to provinces by their proper name their comments should be rejected.

This is not going against free speech but upholding decency and respect for all legitimate governments and sovereign nations.

Lazer, "Less important countries like Spaint etc"!!!!. If these countries are less important, then where does that leave Kosovo as a country? In comparison you are only a blimp on the radar.
Not any any position to demand like a toddle throwing a tantrum.

Well, Peggy,
thanx for the criticism, but I have to tell you that Spain IS NOT and NEVER WILL BE a major player as of POST-AZNAR Spain.
I am not looking to Spain from Kosova/o perspective, but from way above, like Empire State Building, and its the same with you.

Lazer, If Spain is not a major player what does than say about Kosovo. Kosovo is definitely not a player at all as it is not even a country.

You should be so lucky to be compared to Spain. If you keep insulting the countries of Europe which don't support you how will you ever hope to get them on your side?

Insulting these countries is not a smart move.
As far as you looking from above, I say keep looking. It will be the less important countries like Spain that will derail your ambitions. If Europe is not united you have no hope. Since you just proved what you think of some of them, I say you will be on the outside looking in for a very long time.

If ever Kosovo becomes independent what you say might matter but until then, please respect the country you live in for it will be your home and learn to refer to it's province by it's rightful name of KosovO.
The longer negotiations take the more damage Albanians are doing to their own cause by demonstrating that they have no respect for others, unless they do as they wish.

Paggy, that's just plain silly. People should call where they live whatever they want to...by your logic Serbs should stop calling it Kosovo i Metohija, since the international name is Kosovo; Turks should stop referring to their homeland as Turkiye, and call it Turkey and Albanians should call it Albania and not Shqiperi...makes no sense, in the end it's irrelevant.

Peggy, dont know who you are but you are contradicting yourself big time. Think about it.
I can call Kosova with an A or O or whatever I want ignoring your opinion.
I can dislike Spain's politics, after all they have the Basques who are a totally different group of people and dont have autonomy in Spain.
And they have been there way before Spain became anything.
After all Spain was a very FASCIST country, remember gen. Franco???
I think he was a mentor to Slobodan Miloshevic who died in Hague PRISON alone, broken, his dreams never came through.
This guys policy are being helped by people like yourself.

"Britain's attitude could also be gauged by the fact that it offered one of the finest rooms in the Foreign Office, the Locarno Room, for the Kosovan news conference".(source BBC)

Read the above paragraph and tell me how UK has changed its stance regarding Kosova.

In the end, the West will tell KiM albanians to wait another year, and then another, and so forth, till they are told to behave like any minority in the world.

I do think that B92 missed the real title in this article!!!
UK has not change its stance at all. They are, actually trying to COORDINATE the DE FACTO INDEPENDENCE from Serbia!

GSP,

Barbaric and blasphemous were the crimes committed against K-Albanians in 1999. As a result Serbia forfeited Kosovo, received as a present anyway 100 years ago. So the unilateral proclamation and recognition of independent Kosovo - overdue for years - will be one of the most natural and logical thinks in today's world.

Pyrros, the Kosova delegation team went to London to have an agreement with the FMO-UK on pre-agreement to Kosova's Independance and they got that. David Milliband concluded that "if the talks fail we will need to move forward with the Ahtisari Plan" (source BBC), which means independance hence why you have the EU buying and setting up shop all over Kosova for their part in the "supervised" section of our Independance.

Pyrros; Minoroties some other community within your current boarders and i'm sure you will get i.e. Vojvodina walking out of the union as well.

It looks like the Americans have enlisted the help of their best allies to 'break the bad news' to the albanians lightly. I guess after repeatedly putting their foot in their mouth, Condi, Cowboy George, Wisner, Burns....just can't look the albanians in the eye and tell them, 'sorry guys, we have done all we could.

“This is reliable information according to which the British, along with the Americans and French, are already working through diplomatic channels in order to get EU member states to show readiness to unilaterally recognize a new Albanian state in the Balkans,” the daily states.

How can the EU recognize a "new albanian state" when albania has no rights to Serbian land? This is really a mess & blasphemous!

germany and italy made up their mind long time ago and told us so.

is there realy one single albanian who thinks this time usa won´t let them down? the same usa that ordered croatia and montenegro to build refugee camps and to not make any trouble with the so-called "unmik-passport"?

is there realy one single albanian who believes that kosovo is more important then bosnia, georgia or ukraine?

is there realy one single albanian who believes that kosovo is more important then the energy security of western europe?

THIS is the time to tell the pristinars the truth. world media is focused on kosovo, so this "elections" could - for the first time - bring the winner into politics and not a us-puppet because of dubious coalitions.

Thats better B92.
Hope you dont mind, sometimes even the moderators and editors need to stand corrected.
The one before was totally out of context.

Guys, you are right, EU is trying to "avoid" Kosova/o Independence, but they all are racing to rent and build new Embassies in Prishtina.
I guess the Real Estate market In Prishtina is booming.

OSCE should also be dispatched in Serbia's areas of Preshevo Valley, Sandjak, and Vojvodina to see what kind of human rights abuses and others take place to non-Serb population.
If the Serbian MINORITY in Kosova/o is going to have this kind of protection, everybody else should have the same.

As per this article, I thing is written out of no facts whatsoever, taking the Kosova/o team visit to 10 Downing street as a pretext to water down the real reason why they were there in a first place.
The West: USA and EU are only trying to coordinate so they all are on the same page.
The recognition of Kosova/o Independence is going to have this scenario:
It will happen in waves, first US and GB, France, Germany, and Italy, then the less important countries like Spain, Portugal, etc.
On the other side, Albania, Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia and most of the Arab Countries, and of course Israel as a key player, which I will persuade just like in case of Croatia.
How is that soun???

The Kosova Albanians are not interested in unilateral moves either. But if reasoning with Serbia and Russia fails then we will have no choice but to declare independence and the UK & Western Countries will have no choice but to recognize us.

The west has invested billions in Kosova, and they wont let all those investments simply dissapear simply becasue Russia simply feeling like promoting slavic brotherhood and such.

How does the following excerpt from the above article match the title of the article?

"This is reliable information according to which the British, along with the Americans and French, are already working through diplomatic channels in order to get EU member states to show readiness to unilaterally recognize a new Albanian state in the Balkans,”

Maybe those serbs who were so excited about being friends with British again can explain!

It is obvious that the Kosovar Albanians will behave smartly. Kosova is already independent. I personally would take the approach of coordinating the actions with the European allies such as UK, France,Italy and Germany without mentioning the USA. We are not talking here about months or years of delays. We are talking for a natural approach to this European issue without falling in the Serbo-Russia trap to frustrate Kosova's patient to its limit, destebilising the region and bring the ultimate argument to devide Kosova.

Raso: The fact that the US allegedly asked Croatia to be ready for K -Albanian refugees would reflect badly on your government, nothing more and nothing less.
And you all seem to be a bit confused about what is going on. What the UK, US, France etc are arguing about are the means to and end and not the end itself. They have all made it absolutely clear that independence is gonna be the end result. However they are still discussing how to get there. So I don't think your enthusiasm is really justified although you claim to have been told by the Germans that they have already made their mind up. From what I have heard ad read in the German press Germany has some qualms about independence without an SC resolution and not about the fact that Kosova should get independence.
So what is gonna happen Raso is that Kosova will declare unilateral independence and some time afterwards, when that has become a fact everyone will come on board and recognize it. The more time passes by the more hopeless Serbia's cause will be Raso. After all it is hard to imagine a situation 20 or 30 years from now when anyone will lend any support to Serbia's claim on Kosova. You might as well give up now.

"Amid those declarations by American officials, we are asking ourselves: what's the point of the negotiations when the outcome is already known?" Samardzic said."

I would agree, but Serb camp persisting that "independence has become a myth."


Raso, I would rather be an inmate in Guantanamo bay than a citizen of Serbia.

don't worry
as i do not want to have our national day in winter_too cold in kosova,that's not smart for the festivities!_i prefer to wait for spring:mars and april are nice in kosova ;)!
don't worry ,be happy because we will decide when and where independence will happen,we the ones who live in kosova!
never again serbia in kosova,that's sure!

to serbs:
have you not yet understand? for centuries you tried to have kosova only for you:you killed us,expelled us,burnt us but you never succeded!
My grand mother in a life time had her house burned seven time:each time the house was rebuilt,better larger!
so ,if you think that because the independence will not happen in december_what i hope just because it is not pleasant to have ceremonies in décember!_you will get rid of the albanians,your are all fooling yourselves!some
radical albanians even ask us to "stay " in serbia ,just as your gvt asks some of you to stay in mitrovica!

Agim: ""Britain's attitude could also be gauged by the fact that it offered one of the finest rooms in the Foreign Office, the Locarno Room, for the Kosovan news conference".(source BBC)

Read the above paragraph and tell me how UK has changed its stance regarding Kosova."

Agim - You are easily bought aren't you? Being treated like that is not necessarily good news in the world of politics and business. Never heard of 'sugaring the pill'?

We Brits are masters at that, hence the excellent spies and spinmeisters through history. Then again in all countries politicians smile charmingly and speak politely while saying something else altogether.

I agree with Dragan that Britain is being used by the US to soften the blow.

Lazer

I think you misunderstand this article. UK is telling Kosovo Albanians not to declare unilateral independence until they are in the state to convince all nations of the EU to recognize independence unilaterally (because there are five EU states that will not recognize an independent Kosovo with endorsement from the UNSC) since the Kosovo Albanians have threatened to do so.

Because if Kosovo does declare unilateral independence and the EU is not unified, it will simply mean that Kosovo will not only be unable to join the UN, but also the EU, because one of the principles of membership is that all states of the EU accept Kosovo as a member. How do you see this happening if five EU states don't even recognize the statehood of Kosovo?

Even little Cyprus has the power to veto something like Turkey joining the EU...

Now this is an interesting version of an article that was reported in BBC yesterday, saying Britain had all but assured Kosovo's leaders of unilateral support. Now we hear Britain is backtracking?

Whatever the outcome, it's becoming painfully obvious there will be a major hurdle to pass after December 10. Pristina is testing the winds right now to see who would be onboard their unilateral express. They know they've got Washington and Tirana. They're pretty sure of London and Paris, but the rest of the League of European Super Friends is not to definitive.

At the same time, it's becoming equally obvious that Brussels is going to dig deeper into its grab bag of concessions to throw at both Belgrade and Pristina, in the hopes of reaching a negotiated settlement that all can readily agree on. A declaration may be announced, but Belgrade will certainly not walk away from the table empty-handed.

"Raso, I would rather be an inmate in Guantanamo bay than a citizen of Serbia.
(KS, 10. October 2007 17:46) "

KS,

So why are you applying for a Serbian passport?
(Ratko, 10. October 2007 19:18)

I'm not I have an American passport. Also your facts that 500k Kosovars have Serbian passport, that facts includes K-Serbs.

Agim i think they did that because were showing respect to the vistors. If they have not given a press briefing no one knows what was said. Sir so please don't try to put words out that have not been spoken.

Now, even the albanian "best friends" are trying to tell them in a light way that they have been duped.

"Raso, I would rather be an inmate in Guantanamo bay than a citizen of Serbia.
(KS, 10. October 2007 17:46) "

KS,

So why are you applying for a Serbian passport?

Nick wrote:" UK & Western Countries will have no choice but to recognize us.

The west has invested billions in Kosovo"

my dear Nick, if that is your greatest hope...you are really lost.

the US alone are spending more in Iraq every single month than in Kosovo in a year, so don´t put your hopes on that weak argument of finanical investments...

you could be disappointed in the end, since they do indeed have a choice whether to recognize a toy-"republic" or not.

NATO-member Turkey will invade Iraq (occupied by... US!). Because it does not want the Kurds to break away.

NATO-member Turkey was bombing Serbia so the Albanians can (could) break away.

Can someone explain!

Also: Taiwanese president made harsh statement: China and Taiwain are two seperate states.

Where is Bush to support this guy?

First and foremost it is KOSOVO not Kosova. Just take a look at the history of Kosovo. It seems to me that the British goverment isn't being used by the US they just have changed their minds about having kosovo become independent. I really beleive that it will never become independent because of the fact that Serbians are relentless. As for the albanians claming independence without being recognized by all members of the EU, it's not independent, regardless of what you have made up in your own minds.

OK AGIM and REST OF ALBANS
- US and UK have come to the understanding that they desperately need Russian support for oher issues. Mainly IRAN. So they are conceeding to Russia with no missiles in Eastern Europe and No independence for Kosovo. Small price to pay to keep world order and law.

CCCC

Barbaric and blasphemous were the crimes committed against K-Albanians in 1999. As a result Serbia forfeited Kosovo, received as a present anyway 100 years ago. So the unilateral proclamation and recognition of independent Kosovo - overdue for years - will be one of the most natural and logical thinks in today's world.
(Joe, 10. October 2007 15:11)

& you're completely innocent? I think not. You need to take the finger you point at the Serbs continually & point it towards yourself. If you didn't tread on holy soil (KosovO) this conversation, nor any atrocities would have been committed.

Cheers & touche.

Lazer, "Less important countries like Spaint etc"!!!!. If these countries are less important, then where does that leave Kosovo as a country? In comparison you are only a blimp on the radar.
Not any any position to demand like a toddle throwing a tantrum.

KS,
"I would rather be an inmate in Guantanamo bay than a citizen of Serbia.
If you declare independence illegally and cause trouble you will have a big problem with the UN (US), as even they will not sit back and let you fire on NATO. You might just get your wish.
From what I've seen of Guantanamo bay, it's a great place to visit but do you really want to live there?

KS you said that 500K people from Kosovo have Serbian passports and that includes the K-Serbs. That still outnumbers the Serbian population there by a lot.
That number of Serbian passport holders just keeps rising as we speak.

GSP,

You got it right my boy. I am innocent. I was never in Kosovo. I am not an Albanian. I have only deep sympathies for them for all the sufferings they went through.
The only holly soil I have tread on was Medjugorje in Hercegovina. As I heard the Serbs wanted to bomb the church but by miracle the normally clear sky was covered with clauds. Because of no visibility those nice Serbs had to give up.

I notice alot of the posters here do not even live in Serbia or Kosovo. LOL, running mouth about a land you don't not even live in and do not face the day to day frustration.

The U.S. Office in Pristina has started constructing the Visa Issuing Section. The rest is silence.

To B92

It is very disrespectful to allow comments from individuals which refer to Kosovo as Kosova to be published.
The term Kosova is designed to irritate all who uphold the international law. If Kosovo becomes independent, then and only then the term Kosova should be allowed.
Until then it is agreeing with the K-Albanians that it is legitimately Kososva.

Until all learn to respect the soverenty of a country by referring to provinces by their proper name their comments should be rejected.

This is not going against free speech but upholding decency and respect for all legitimate governments and sovereign nations.

Oh dear dear me. Always the same, we're right your wrong. Then a few foriegners jump i with their views. Just like me!

Well I worked in Kosovo/KiM for almost 4 years - working with Albanians, Serbs, Roma, Ashkali, Bosniacs, Brits, Yanks, French, Pakistanis (police that is) ect.

Independence? well what else is there. First Serbian political leaders messed up, the Albanian political leaders messed up. How about this for an idea. Both groups come to the realisation that nationality does not matter, that a bigger europe has been created over the past few centuries that no longer cares so much about ethnic labels. almost. Both sides need to understand the concerns and fears of the otherm then find a way to lessen those fears. Instead of playing a zero sum game. K/Albanins now need to provide real secuirty for Serbs wanting to live in Kosovo. If your a Serb do you fancy walking around Peja/Pec? Prob not. If your an Albanian a quick Slivo in Nis? Probably you'd be fine. In Zubin Potok?? Not quite sure. Is this me being silly, suggesting that you stop fighting each other finally? It has to stop somewhere.

Thought for the day: Your all going to join a new Yugoslavia anyway: the EU.

Lazer, "Less important countries like Spaint etc"!!!!. If these countries are less important, then where does that leave Kosovo as a country? In comparison you are only a blimp on the radar.
Not any any position to demand like a toddle throwing a tantrum.

Well, Peggy,
thanx for the criticism, but I have to tell you that Spain IS NOT and NEVER WILL BE a major player as of POST-AZNAR Spain.
I am not looking to Spain from Kosova/o perspective, but from way above, like Empire State Building, and its the same with you.

Lazer, If Spain is not a major player what does than say about Kosovo. Kosovo is definitely not a player at all as it is not even a country.

You should be so lucky to be compared to Spain. If you keep insulting the countries of Europe which don't support you how will you ever hope to get them on your side?

Insulting these countries is not a smart move.
As far as you looking from above, I say keep looking. It will be the less important countries like Spain that will derail your ambitions. If Europe is not united you have no hope. Since you just proved what you think of some of them, I say you will be on the outside looking in for a very long time.

If ever Kosovo becomes independent what you say might matter but until then, please respect the country you live in for it will be your home and learn to refer to it's province by it's rightful name of KosovO.
The longer negotiations take the more damage Albanians are doing to their own cause by demonstrating that they have no respect for others, unless they do as they wish.

Paggy, that's just plain silly. People should call where they live whatever they want to...by your logic Serbs should stop calling it Kosovo i Metohija, since the international name is Kosovo; Turks should stop referring to their homeland as Turkiye, and call it Turkey and Albanians should call it Albania and not Shqiperi...makes no sense, in the end it's irrelevant.

Peggy, dont know who you are but you are contradicting yourself big time. Think about it.
I can call Kosova with an A or O or whatever I want ignoring your opinion.
I can dislike Spain's politics, after all they have the Basques who are a totally different group of people and dont have autonomy in Spain.
And they have been there way before Spain became anything.
After all Spain was a very FASCIST country, remember gen. Franco???
I think he was a mentor to Slobodan Miloshevic who died in Hague PRISON alone, broken, his dreams never came through.
This guys policy are being helped by people like yourself.