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Sunday, 07.10.2007.

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Dayton-style Kosovo conference soon?

Wolfgang Ishinger says a Kosovo peace conference, not unlike that held in Dayton, could take place in November or December.

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EA

pre 16 godina

Peggy,
Let me be more clear to you. For the the Kosovar Albanians there would be never a compromise when it comes to independence and sovereignity of Kosova.

KS

pre 16 godina

And to who did Kosovo belong to prior to 1919, emily? It didn't belong to Albania, it wasn't an independent nation - who did Kosovo belong to?
(CoscoVo, 7. October 2007 18:00)

Actually, 1912. It belonged to Albania. Remember when you say "greater albania?" It's not because we want more land but these are the territories that 4% of all Albanians would like to reunite as they were under Albanian before EUROPE completely demolished through backstabbing.

Cos Kosova belonged to Albania but since we (Kosovars) have culturally evolved we don't see that strong to link our 2 nations under one. It's the material age where self-will and individualism is more favorable than collective-one.

Either way, Kosova and Albania one day will be under one roof in EU. Luckily we'll be close friends with our neighbor Russia since Serbia will integrate itself into Mother/father/step dad Russia.

Peggy

pre 16 godina

EA,
Your answer to Mike's suggesting is childish. NO, we don't want to share. We want the lot.
Just proves what I have always said. Nobody can negotiate with Albanians. You are not ready for compromise of any sort and are only wasting time hoping that come December 10 you will have your independence.
Serbia has offered a real compromise.

You cannot in good concience ever say that you tried to find a solution. You have your demands and nothing else.
I seriously doubt that Europe will want to create a country that has no idea about compromise or negotiation, only know how to demand.
Compromise will have to be reached or imposed. Notice I said compromise and not independence. Only compromise will ensure stability, so whether you agree or not you will have to accept it.

Berti

pre 16 godina

Kosova it was, it is and always will belong to its people. The occupiers did come and go and Serbian occupation ended in 1999. The present occupiers, the UN, will soon depart.

KosaDarda

pre 16 godina

"Therefore, Russia and Serbia are in a position of strength. "

cccc, if this were true, seriously, would you be here begging us to acknowledge your existence through your powerless voice over Kosova's manifest destiny? :) If this were true, Russian troops would still be in Pristina airport. So much for Russians as allies. Like in WW2 Pacific, they cannot be trusted to help their allies.

"Negotiate good independence rather then economic starvation. Not that it would change much. 70% unemployment is already horrible. You should see the last 8 years where you were "technically" on your own have not helped you. Nothing and no one will. Only Serbs care about that land and want to see it prosper. "

And, even if .0001% of this were true, why hasn't the Belgrade leaders officially recognized its 'legal' Albanian citizens of Kosova by paying their retired citizens their official pensions, these Albanians that worked all their lives to prop up the serb leadership in belgrade? Right the world understands how much you want to see Kosova prosper. They also see that the Belgrade govt will never be able to commit serial murders through official govt. policy in Kosova..ever. As for starvation, or 70% unemployed K-Albanians, seriously, if your govt. rather build more military bases in Preshevo and not pay its veterans' pensions of the Kosova war, your veterans wouldn't be starving themselves to death to get their leaders to pay them what is due. Those bases will be housing more and more Kosovar KPS Units, rather than Serb mups. These bases will stand as a testament and witness to that Serbian inability to overcome centuries of brainwashing the people of this SerbMyth of noble death, resting in Kosova.
There is no 'nobility' in dying and then losing your land, especially if that land was NEVER yours to begin with.

Lazar

pre 16 godina

I find it very funny... this pro-Albanian blind confidence in independence. Nothing is gaurenteed for serbs or albanians, so in other words, the ones that say Independence is inevitable or that Kosovo can not break off...

vicky

pre 16 godina

"Only Serbs care about that land and want to see it prosper".
note how serbs care obout kosovo only the land they never mention the 95 persent non serbs living in there.

Peter Sudyka

pre 16 godina

"
There will be no compromise on the Independence, the reason behind this is the article that follows.
[link]

We want peace and we want equality, we do not want to associated with bigotry and hate.
(M, 7. October 2007 15:49)"

This is probably the only thing that I agree with from the Albanian side, there is too much hatred between the two peoples to coexist, but I firmly believe that if both peoples can find it in them to negotiate and come to a solution that will be acceptable to both, that will be a huge boost in future relations between the two peoples, at least it will be a start in the path to reconciliation.

"Peter Sudyka
If Putin wishes to remain in power he will not give his opposition a weapon to make him look like he is weak by allowing the West to cross the red line. No. That will not happen. He has no choice but to oppose Kosovo independence to the end now. "

That is true, but it will be the same with the Americans. It would be a massive blow to both nations' policies if either backs off now. This is why I prefer Russia's stance, because at least they are encouraging dialog to try and reach a consensus, while America is one-sided. Nonetheless, at the end of the day, I think the best if for you guys and the Albanians to come up with the solution mutually.

"i agree, it is a european problem. the thing is EU like to talk but never really takes any actions. it could take forever.
(Konstandini, 7. October 2007 15:47)"

That's also true, this is why both Albanians and Serbs need to solve their own issues and only have EU as a facilitator/mediator, not someone who decides for them, because there is no solution in that.

Both peoples must try and solve the problem themselves, or there simply will never be a good relationship in the future. They can do it!

CoscoVo

pre 16 godina

And to who did Kosovo belong to prior to 1919, emily? It didn't belong to Albania, it wasn't an independent nation - who did Kosovo belong to?

KS

pre 16 godina

"...let´s see what future brings!

hope you won´t be disappointed too much.
(Jovan, 7. October 2007 14:17)"

Jovan it surprises me everyday this Serbian denial of the truth. Why do you pretend like you don't know at least revelatory how the status will be concluded; some form of independence for Kosova with minorities having most rights a minority can have.

Why do you choose to believe that Serbia has a possibility of coming back and Kosova ending with some form of Autonomy? It doesn't, every politician has said it, deadline = dec 10, Ahtisaari plan.

No Partition
No Autonomy
INDEPENDENCE!

Mike

pre 16 godina

Absolutely design Kosovo around the Dayton model. This should have been thought of right from the start.

It's no secret Bosnia is anything but a unified state, but it is pacified, and the competing sides are not killing each other. Our goal right now is to avoid any further conflict between Serbs and Albanians. Does anyone here even have the slightest belief that an independent Kosovo is going to be fully self-reliant and self-sufficient? What's it to Serbia if Kosovo is given independence, but a Serbian Republic of Kosovo and Metohija exists as a subunit within Kosovo alongside an "Albanian Federation" or whatever we want to call the entities? Yes, people were up in arms over Dayton when it first happened, but now, every Serb here seems perfectly happy with the existence of RS. Let's do the same with RSKiM.

The Ahtisaari Plan is a good basis to start, but let's push it further by giving solid institutional gurarantees to the Serb minority to avoid the demographic exodus everyone fears. It's time to stop using Kosovo as a tool of one's own nationalism and start looking at how the troubled province can be shared.

Cvele

pre 16 godina

EA
"Ahtisaari's plan is still on the table and it is one of the best, if not the best plan for Kosovo," the German diplomat said

Best plan is the one that gets approval of Serbia and Russia. Thats what he is saying.

Peter Sudyka
If Putin wishes to remain in power he will not give his opposition a weapon to make him look like he is weak by allowing the West to cross the red line. No. That will not happen. He has no choice but to oppose Kosovo independence to the end now.

Albanians
You are so funny when it comes to news quoting americans. U idolise them. Its rather sad because. However, US is no longer in a position to have a say on Kosovo future. EU is not united and it never will be without the UN. Therefore, Russia and Serbia are in a position of strength. Negotiate good independence rather then economic starvation. Not that it would change much. 70% unemployment is already horrible. You should see the last 8 years where you were "technically" on your own have not helped you. Nothing and no one will. Only Serbs care about that land and want to see it prosper.

CCCC

Peter Sudyka

pre 16 godina

" "We will not relieve the Serbian and Albanian negotiating teams of their basic responsibility. Their job is to find an agreement, the problem is theirs, and it is their job to reach a compromise and come up with a proposal," Ishinger explained. "

He is right, I pray that the Serbs and Albanians come to an agreement, it really would be the best thing for everybody. Favoritism for one side and not the other is not a solution.

Ishinger knows this because the EU is a democratic organization and when there is dissent amongst the members, the EU will not agree on a proposal.

While naturally you can't please everyone, I think that this Troika should really focus on finding an agreement that both these peoples can agree on, because if one agrees and the other disagrees, there is no solution and we go back to square one, ie. 1999.

In fact, I suggest that come Dec 10, Russia and the US back off and leave this to the EU.

python

pre 16 godina

If Dayton is anything to go by, remember that Dayton achieved sovereignty and territorial integrity of Bosnia and Herzegovina, one of former Yugoslav republics, hence we should all expect the same achievement for Serbia, another former Yugoslav republic.

Konstandini

pre 16 godina

Peter,

i agree, it is a european problem. the thing is EU like to talk but never really takes any actions. it could take forever.

M

pre 16 godina

Peter-

There will be no compromise on the Independence, the reason behind this is the article that follows.
http://www.birn.eu.com/en/106/10/5140/?&SearchKeywords=Juliana%252BKojsilovic

We want peace and we want equality, we do not want to associated with bigotry and hate.

EA

pre 16 godina

"Ahtisaari's plan is still on the table and it is one of the best, if not the best plan for Kosovo," the German diplomat said
Don't waste more time guys. Let Kosova move forward to its European future.

EA

pre 16 godina

"Ahtisaari's plan is still on the table and it is one of the best, if not the best plan for Kosovo," the German diplomat said
Don't waste more time guys. Let Kosova move forward to its European future.

Cvele

pre 16 godina

EA
"Ahtisaari's plan is still on the table and it is one of the best, if not the best plan for Kosovo," the German diplomat said

Best plan is the one that gets approval of Serbia and Russia. Thats what he is saying.

Peter Sudyka
If Putin wishes to remain in power he will not give his opposition a weapon to make him look like he is weak by allowing the West to cross the red line. No. That will not happen. He has no choice but to oppose Kosovo independence to the end now.

Albanians
You are so funny when it comes to news quoting americans. U idolise them. Its rather sad because. However, US is no longer in a position to have a say on Kosovo future. EU is not united and it never will be without the UN. Therefore, Russia and Serbia are in a position of strength. Negotiate good independence rather then economic starvation. Not that it would change much. 70% unemployment is already horrible. You should see the last 8 years where you were "technically" on your own have not helped you. Nothing and no one will. Only Serbs care about that land and want to see it prosper.

CCCC

python

pre 16 godina

If Dayton is anything to go by, remember that Dayton achieved sovereignty and territorial integrity of Bosnia and Herzegovina, one of former Yugoslav republics, hence we should all expect the same achievement for Serbia, another former Yugoslav republic.

KS

pre 16 godina

"...let´s see what future brings!

hope you won´t be disappointed too much.
(Jovan, 7. October 2007 14:17)"

Jovan it surprises me everyday this Serbian denial of the truth. Why do you pretend like you don't know at least revelatory how the status will be concluded; some form of independence for Kosova with minorities having most rights a minority can have.

Why do you choose to believe that Serbia has a possibility of coming back and Kosova ending with some form of Autonomy? It doesn't, every politician has said it, deadline = dec 10, Ahtisaari plan.

No Partition
No Autonomy
INDEPENDENCE!

CoscoVo

pre 16 godina

And to who did Kosovo belong to prior to 1919, emily? It didn't belong to Albania, it wasn't an independent nation - who did Kosovo belong to?

Peter Sudyka

pre 16 godina

" "We will not relieve the Serbian and Albanian negotiating teams of their basic responsibility. Their job is to find an agreement, the problem is theirs, and it is their job to reach a compromise and come up with a proposal," Ishinger explained. "

He is right, I pray that the Serbs and Albanians come to an agreement, it really would be the best thing for everybody. Favoritism for one side and not the other is not a solution.

Ishinger knows this because the EU is a democratic organization and when there is dissent amongst the members, the EU will not agree on a proposal.

While naturally you can't please everyone, I think that this Troika should really focus on finding an agreement that both these peoples can agree on, because if one agrees and the other disagrees, there is no solution and we go back to square one, ie. 1999.

In fact, I suggest that come Dec 10, Russia and the US back off and leave this to the EU.

Konstandini

pre 16 godina

Peter,

i agree, it is a european problem. the thing is EU like to talk but never really takes any actions. it could take forever.

M

pre 16 godina

Peter-

There will be no compromise on the Independence, the reason behind this is the article that follows.
http://www.birn.eu.com/en/106/10/5140/?&SearchKeywords=Juliana%252BKojsilovic

We want peace and we want equality, we do not want to associated with bigotry and hate.

Mike

pre 16 godina

Absolutely design Kosovo around the Dayton model. This should have been thought of right from the start.

It's no secret Bosnia is anything but a unified state, but it is pacified, and the competing sides are not killing each other. Our goal right now is to avoid any further conflict between Serbs and Albanians. Does anyone here even have the slightest belief that an independent Kosovo is going to be fully self-reliant and self-sufficient? What's it to Serbia if Kosovo is given independence, but a Serbian Republic of Kosovo and Metohija exists as a subunit within Kosovo alongside an "Albanian Federation" or whatever we want to call the entities? Yes, people were up in arms over Dayton when it first happened, but now, every Serb here seems perfectly happy with the existence of RS. Let's do the same with RSKiM.

The Ahtisaari Plan is a good basis to start, but let's push it further by giving solid institutional gurarantees to the Serb minority to avoid the demographic exodus everyone fears. It's time to stop using Kosovo as a tool of one's own nationalism and start looking at how the troubled province can be shared.

KosaDarda

pre 16 godina

"Therefore, Russia and Serbia are in a position of strength. "

cccc, if this were true, seriously, would you be here begging us to acknowledge your existence through your powerless voice over Kosova's manifest destiny? :) If this were true, Russian troops would still be in Pristina airport. So much for Russians as allies. Like in WW2 Pacific, they cannot be trusted to help their allies.

"Negotiate good independence rather then economic starvation. Not that it would change much. 70% unemployment is already horrible. You should see the last 8 years where you were "technically" on your own have not helped you. Nothing and no one will. Only Serbs care about that land and want to see it prosper. "

And, even if .0001% of this were true, why hasn't the Belgrade leaders officially recognized its 'legal' Albanian citizens of Kosova by paying their retired citizens their official pensions, these Albanians that worked all their lives to prop up the serb leadership in belgrade? Right the world understands how much you want to see Kosova prosper. They also see that the Belgrade govt will never be able to commit serial murders through official govt. policy in Kosova..ever. As for starvation, or 70% unemployed K-Albanians, seriously, if your govt. rather build more military bases in Preshevo and not pay its veterans' pensions of the Kosova war, your veterans wouldn't be starving themselves to death to get their leaders to pay them what is due. Those bases will be housing more and more Kosovar KPS Units, rather than Serb mups. These bases will stand as a testament and witness to that Serbian inability to overcome centuries of brainwashing the people of this SerbMyth of noble death, resting in Kosova.
There is no 'nobility' in dying and then losing your land, especially if that land was NEVER yours to begin with.

Berti

pre 16 godina

Kosova it was, it is and always will belong to its people. The occupiers did come and go and Serbian occupation ended in 1999. The present occupiers, the UN, will soon depart.

EA

pre 16 godina

Peggy,
Let me be more clear to you. For the the Kosovar Albanians there would be never a compromise when it comes to independence and sovereignity of Kosova.

vicky

pre 16 godina

"Only Serbs care about that land and want to see it prosper".
note how serbs care obout kosovo only the land they never mention the 95 persent non serbs living in there.

Peter Sudyka

pre 16 godina

"
There will be no compromise on the Independence, the reason behind this is the article that follows.
[link]

We want peace and we want equality, we do not want to associated with bigotry and hate.
(M, 7. October 2007 15:49)"

This is probably the only thing that I agree with from the Albanian side, there is too much hatred between the two peoples to coexist, but I firmly believe that if both peoples can find it in them to negotiate and come to a solution that will be acceptable to both, that will be a huge boost in future relations between the two peoples, at least it will be a start in the path to reconciliation.

"Peter Sudyka
If Putin wishes to remain in power he will not give his opposition a weapon to make him look like he is weak by allowing the West to cross the red line. No. That will not happen. He has no choice but to oppose Kosovo independence to the end now. "

That is true, but it will be the same with the Americans. It would be a massive blow to both nations' policies if either backs off now. This is why I prefer Russia's stance, because at least they are encouraging dialog to try and reach a consensus, while America is one-sided. Nonetheless, at the end of the day, I think the best if for you guys and the Albanians to come up with the solution mutually.

"i agree, it is a european problem. the thing is EU like to talk but never really takes any actions. it could take forever.
(Konstandini, 7. October 2007 15:47)"

That's also true, this is why both Albanians and Serbs need to solve their own issues and only have EU as a facilitator/mediator, not someone who decides for them, because there is no solution in that.

Both peoples must try and solve the problem themselves, or there simply will never be a good relationship in the future. They can do it!

Lazar

pre 16 godina

I find it very funny... this pro-Albanian blind confidence in independence. Nothing is gaurenteed for serbs or albanians, so in other words, the ones that say Independence is inevitable or that Kosovo can not break off...

Peggy

pre 16 godina

EA,
Your answer to Mike's suggesting is childish. NO, we don't want to share. We want the lot.
Just proves what I have always said. Nobody can negotiate with Albanians. You are not ready for compromise of any sort and are only wasting time hoping that come December 10 you will have your independence.
Serbia has offered a real compromise.

You cannot in good concience ever say that you tried to find a solution. You have your demands and nothing else.
I seriously doubt that Europe will want to create a country that has no idea about compromise or negotiation, only know how to demand.
Compromise will have to be reached or imposed. Notice I said compromise and not independence. Only compromise will ensure stability, so whether you agree or not you will have to accept it.

KS

pre 16 godina

And to who did Kosovo belong to prior to 1919, emily? It didn't belong to Albania, it wasn't an independent nation - who did Kosovo belong to?
(CoscoVo, 7. October 2007 18:00)

Actually, 1912. It belonged to Albania. Remember when you say "greater albania?" It's not because we want more land but these are the territories that 4% of all Albanians would like to reunite as they were under Albanian before EUROPE completely demolished through backstabbing.

Cos Kosova belonged to Albania but since we (Kosovars) have culturally evolved we don't see that strong to link our 2 nations under one. It's the material age where self-will and individualism is more favorable than collective-one.

Either way, Kosova and Albania one day will be under one roof in EU. Luckily we'll be close friends with our neighbor Russia since Serbia will integrate itself into Mother/father/step dad Russia.

EA

pre 16 godina

"Ahtisaari's plan is still on the table and it is one of the best, if not the best plan for Kosovo," the German diplomat said
Don't waste more time guys. Let Kosova move forward to its European future.

Peter Sudyka

pre 16 godina

" "We will not relieve the Serbian and Albanian negotiating teams of their basic responsibility. Their job is to find an agreement, the problem is theirs, and it is their job to reach a compromise and come up with a proposal," Ishinger explained. "

He is right, I pray that the Serbs and Albanians come to an agreement, it really would be the best thing for everybody. Favoritism for one side and not the other is not a solution.

Ishinger knows this because the EU is a democratic organization and when there is dissent amongst the members, the EU will not agree on a proposal.

While naturally you can't please everyone, I think that this Troika should really focus on finding an agreement that both these peoples can agree on, because if one agrees and the other disagrees, there is no solution and we go back to square one, ie. 1999.

In fact, I suggest that come Dec 10, Russia and the US back off and leave this to the EU.

python

pre 16 godina

If Dayton is anything to go by, remember that Dayton achieved sovereignty and territorial integrity of Bosnia and Herzegovina, one of former Yugoslav republics, hence we should all expect the same achievement for Serbia, another former Yugoslav republic.

M

pre 16 godina

Peter-

There will be no compromise on the Independence, the reason behind this is the article that follows.
http://www.birn.eu.com/en/106/10/5140/?&SearchKeywords=Juliana%252BKojsilovic

We want peace and we want equality, we do not want to associated with bigotry and hate.

KS

pre 16 godina

"...let´s see what future brings!

hope you won´t be disappointed too much.
(Jovan, 7. October 2007 14:17)"

Jovan it surprises me everyday this Serbian denial of the truth. Why do you pretend like you don't know at least revelatory how the status will be concluded; some form of independence for Kosova with minorities having most rights a minority can have.

Why do you choose to believe that Serbia has a possibility of coming back and Kosova ending with some form of Autonomy? It doesn't, every politician has said it, deadline = dec 10, Ahtisaari plan.

No Partition
No Autonomy
INDEPENDENCE!

vicky

pre 16 godina

"Only Serbs care about that land and want to see it prosper".
note how serbs care obout kosovo only the land they never mention the 95 persent non serbs living in there.

KosaDarda

pre 16 godina

"Therefore, Russia and Serbia are in a position of strength. "

cccc, if this were true, seriously, would you be here begging us to acknowledge your existence through your powerless voice over Kosova's manifest destiny? :) If this were true, Russian troops would still be in Pristina airport. So much for Russians as allies. Like in WW2 Pacific, they cannot be trusted to help their allies.

"Negotiate good independence rather then economic starvation. Not that it would change much. 70% unemployment is already horrible. You should see the last 8 years where you were "technically" on your own have not helped you. Nothing and no one will. Only Serbs care about that land and want to see it prosper. "

And, even if .0001% of this were true, why hasn't the Belgrade leaders officially recognized its 'legal' Albanian citizens of Kosova by paying their retired citizens their official pensions, these Albanians that worked all their lives to prop up the serb leadership in belgrade? Right the world understands how much you want to see Kosova prosper. They also see that the Belgrade govt will never be able to commit serial murders through official govt. policy in Kosova..ever. As for starvation, or 70% unemployed K-Albanians, seriously, if your govt. rather build more military bases in Preshevo and not pay its veterans' pensions of the Kosova war, your veterans wouldn't be starving themselves to death to get their leaders to pay them what is due. Those bases will be housing more and more Kosovar KPS Units, rather than Serb mups. These bases will stand as a testament and witness to that Serbian inability to overcome centuries of brainwashing the people of this SerbMyth of noble death, resting in Kosova.
There is no 'nobility' in dying and then losing your land, especially if that land was NEVER yours to begin with.

Berti

pre 16 godina

Kosova it was, it is and always will belong to its people. The occupiers did come and go and Serbian occupation ended in 1999. The present occupiers, the UN, will soon depart.

Konstandini

pre 16 godina

Peter,

i agree, it is a european problem. the thing is EU like to talk but never really takes any actions. it could take forever.

Cvele

pre 16 godina

EA
"Ahtisaari's plan is still on the table and it is one of the best, if not the best plan for Kosovo," the German diplomat said

Best plan is the one that gets approval of Serbia and Russia. Thats what he is saying.

Peter Sudyka
If Putin wishes to remain in power he will not give his opposition a weapon to make him look like he is weak by allowing the West to cross the red line. No. That will not happen. He has no choice but to oppose Kosovo independence to the end now.

Albanians
You are so funny when it comes to news quoting americans. U idolise them. Its rather sad because. However, US is no longer in a position to have a say on Kosovo future. EU is not united and it never will be without the UN. Therefore, Russia and Serbia are in a position of strength. Negotiate good independence rather then economic starvation. Not that it would change much. 70% unemployment is already horrible. You should see the last 8 years where you were "technically" on your own have not helped you. Nothing and no one will. Only Serbs care about that land and want to see it prosper.

CCCC

Mike

pre 16 godina

Absolutely design Kosovo around the Dayton model. This should have been thought of right from the start.

It's no secret Bosnia is anything but a unified state, but it is pacified, and the competing sides are not killing each other. Our goal right now is to avoid any further conflict between Serbs and Albanians. Does anyone here even have the slightest belief that an independent Kosovo is going to be fully self-reliant and self-sufficient? What's it to Serbia if Kosovo is given independence, but a Serbian Republic of Kosovo and Metohija exists as a subunit within Kosovo alongside an "Albanian Federation" or whatever we want to call the entities? Yes, people were up in arms over Dayton when it first happened, but now, every Serb here seems perfectly happy with the existence of RS. Let's do the same with RSKiM.

The Ahtisaari Plan is a good basis to start, but let's push it further by giving solid institutional gurarantees to the Serb minority to avoid the demographic exodus everyone fears. It's time to stop using Kosovo as a tool of one's own nationalism and start looking at how the troubled province can be shared.

CoscoVo

pre 16 godina

And to who did Kosovo belong to prior to 1919, emily? It didn't belong to Albania, it wasn't an independent nation - who did Kosovo belong to?

Peter Sudyka

pre 16 godina

"
There will be no compromise on the Independence, the reason behind this is the article that follows.
[link]

We want peace and we want equality, we do not want to associated with bigotry and hate.
(M, 7. October 2007 15:49)"

This is probably the only thing that I agree with from the Albanian side, there is too much hatred between the two peoples to coexist, but I firmly believe that if both peoples can find it in them to negotiate and come to a solution that will be acceptable to both, that will be a huge boost in future relations between the two peoples, at least it will be a start in the path to reconciliation.

"Peter Sudyka
If Putin wishes to remain in power he will not give his opposition a weapon to make him look like he is weak by allowing the West to cross the red line. No. That will not happen. He has no choice but to oppose Kosovo independence to the end now. "

That is true, but it will be the same with the Americans. It would be a massive blow to both nations' policies if either backs off now. This is why I prefer Russia's stance, because at least they are encouraging dialog to try and reach a consensus, while America is one-sided. Nonetheless, at the end of the day, I think the best if for you guys and the Albanians to come up with the solution mutually.

"i agree, it is a european problem. the thing is EU like to talk but never really takes any actions. it could take forever.
(Konstandini, 7. October 2007 15:47)"

That's also true, this is why both Albanians and Serbs need to solve their own issues and only have EU as a facilitator/mediator, not someone who decides for them, because there is no solution in that.

Both peoples must try and solve the problem themselves, or there simply will never be a good relationship in the future. They can do it!

Lazar

pre 16 godina

I find it very funny... this pro-Albanian blind confidence in independence. Nothing is gaurenteed for serbs or albanians, so in other words, the ones that say Independence is inevitable or that Kosovo can not break off...

Peggy

pre 16 godina

EA,
Your answer to Mike's suggesting is childish. NO, we don't want to share. We want the lot.
Just proves what I have always said. Nobody can negotiate with Albanians. You are not ready for compromise of any sort and are only wasting time hoping that come December 10 you will have your independence.
Serbia has offered a real compromise.

You cannot in good concience ever say that you tried to find a solution. You have your demands and nothing else.
I seriously doubt that Europe will want to create a country that has no idea about compromise or negotiation, only know how to demand.
Compromise will have to be reached or imposed. Notice I said compromise and not independence. Only compromise will ensure stability, so whether you agree or not you will have to accept it.

KS

pre 16 godina

And to who did Kosovo belong to prior to 1919, emily? It didn't belong to Albania, it wasn't an independent nation - who did Kosovo belong to?
(CoscoVo, 7. October 2007 18:00)

Actually, 1912. It belonged to Albania. Remember when you say "greater albania?" It's not because we want more land but these are the territories that 4% of all Albanians would like to reunite as they were under Albanian before EUROPE completely demolished through backstabbing.

Cos Kosova belonged to Albania but since we (Kosovars) have culturally evolved we don't see that strong to link our 2 nations under one. It's the material age where self-will and individualism is more favorable than collective-one.

Either way, Kosova and Albania one day will be under one roof in EU. Luckily we'll be close friends with our neighbor Russia since Serbia will integrate itself into Mother/father/step dad Russia.

EA

pre 16 godina

Peggy,
Let me be more clear to you. For the the Kosovar Albanians there would be never a compromise when it comes to independence and sovereignity of Kosova.