Kosovo agreement impossible, says Thaci

Sometimes we can agree to disagree and still be friends otherwise we would have been boring. It is important to accept each others positions in a civilised way. That is how I see the positions of the Kosovar Albanians and Serbian government especially when it comes to the Sovereignity of Kosova. The issue of Sovereignity now more as a matter of pride among other matters which is nothing to do with the concept of "compromise". It is good that both parties are talking to each other but this talking should not be just for the sake of talking. The parties will never agree on Sovereignity at least the Kosovar Albanians will never agree to be Serbian citizen any more. That is why the Serbian government needs to take a realistic view on the matter and look into 21 Century solution. Some comments in here for "offers" about substantial autonomy are nonsense. Kosova is already independent, has got its own democratic institutions. So it is a paradox to talk about Serbian "offers". That is why I appeal to people here to see the issue of Kosova in a realistic way.

He is honest and not trying to dupe his people, but instead he is telling Kosovars what is going on and where these talks are leading. Way to go next PM of Kosova, we were with you during more difficult times, thi is piece of cake.

Someone should tell serbs not to interfere on what our leaders think. If this is what they have in mind offering us "broad autonomy", we can imagine what it means REALLY this kind of serbian autonomy. That's why will never be part of Serbia never again.

"Kosova is already independent, has got its own democratic institutions. So it is a paradox to talk about Serbian "offers". That is why I appeal to people here to see the issue of Kosova in a realistic way.
(EA, 30. September 2007 13:02)"

Well in order to be realistic you have to admit that what you wrote can't apply north of the Ibar

Thaci is an Albanian nationalist who aspires to a greater Albania. His opinion should not be taken seriously in this issue. It would be the same as listening to Milosevic if he was still alive.

Nobody in the US knows who Thaci is; this last post is albanian propaganda. The Kosovo crisis is deliberately spiked by the American media because they know most of the American people would oppose the creation of another muslim country in Europe.

someone should tell this guy that it is not hegemony if Serbia exercises it´s sovereignty.
simply totally indoctrinated with nonsense.

Agim,

Yes, in the US too people consider him as a honest, good guy. You are fortunate to have him as a politician. I think he will be PM of independent Kosovo for a long time and will be very effective.

It is easy to understand why and agreement on the status of Kosovo is impossible between Serbia and Kosovo.
Mr Tadic is talking about autonomy for Kosovo as an end to solve the problem, when he knows, I am sure, that autonomy is simply a step among others. This is the only way to conceive autonomy, otherwise, it would be a half-measure with the pretension of making of the nation a corpse without a soul! Mr Tadic should think of this before making comments. Autonomy has a sense only at the condition that it leads towards independence... And the independence leads to a full liberty.

As we see, autonomy is one among many steps that leads towards independence.

All these K_Alban proxy politicos are reading from the same script provided by DC. Why is his statement to an Albanian newspaper even news worthy. We've heard their broken record a million times. If he were to say something new, then print it.

First it was Ceku, now it's Thaci stating that Kosovo's primary objective is international recognition, and i'm sure that doesn't just mean recognising an independent Kosovo. As Ceku stated previously, independence with legitimacy is what is required to get the economy back on track.

Can the negotiating teams find some common ground, a solution where both sides can get what they want? I hope so, as everyone would benefit. Their diammetrically opposed positions doesn't help, but there are a few months for them to come around to partitioning the province which would be the only way possible for both sides to say that they got something out of the process. In the meantime we'll just have to listen to the grandstanding from both sides.

JohnyBoy,

Maybe Serbian-Americans don't know him. So who cares about them...they are mostly radical anyway. As far as the Americans are concerned they are less bigots than most Europeans. Also they could care less if there is one European country more or less. They care more about which ones are pro-American and which ones are against us. They definitely know that an independent Kosovo will be pro-American. We also know that Serbia is as pro-American as Iran, Syria or Venezuela. So JohnyBoy don't take your dreams for reality. We know very well who are our friends and ennemies in Europe.

An agreement is impossible. Thaçi knows what he speaks about.

How many Serbs here can disagree? You must be "unique" to believe that Kosova side is going to accept any offer sent by Srebia.

Rep of Kosova is the only way forward.

Wrong, Joe. Americans care about stopping the spread of Islamic terrorists more than who is our fair weather friend. Don't you think that Islamic terrorists will have an easier time to set up shop in a Muslim country than in a Christian one, I do.

Joe,
You say that Americans know who their friends are and who their enemies are. Did you forget that Serbs saved hundreds of American during WW2. Now you reward them with ripping their country apart.
And you expect friendship in return for that?
To have a friend you must first be a friend. Serbs have proved their friendship to America but America is yet to respect it.

peggy,

So because supposedly the Serbs saved few hundred Americans in WWII that would have in your mind entitled them the American support for their actions in 1999. Peggy the US is not the Balkan. When it comes to the defense of human rights Serbia is about 100 years behind the US.
But going back to 1999 if Serbia would have treated her minorities the same way as Italy or Finnland than there would not have been any bombing. It is sad to see that most Serbs don't seem to understand something very elemantary: when horrible crimes get committed - especially against 2 millions of its own citizens - than there s/b examplary punishment. That punishment was very human and mesured because they wanted to avoid civilian casualties as much as possible. Otherwise if it would not have been done as a surgical, targeted operation there would have been hundreds of thausands of casualties. That would have been the case if it would have been done "a la russe"...how the Russians did it in Tchechnia.

Joe: you say Americans "..definitely know that an independent Kosovo will be pro-American. We also know that Serbia is as pro-American as Iran ..."

Well jus think for a moment. In 1999 America orchestrated the bombing of Serbia for 70 days. These attacks did not focus on military targets (the ostensible agreement for the bombing) but on civil targets, and infrastructure NO WHERE CLOSE to the military targets. And you wonder why the Serbs might not be pro-American?

As to who knows what, the western media - in particular the US media - have never presented the truth to the US population on ANYTHING against the official line. Iraq is another classic example of this. Even some Americans here (I actually work in the Balkan region) have NO IDEA what is happening in Kosovo and who the 'players' are.

The general level of 'ignorance' about issues outside of the US is quite frightening for a country that thinks it has the right to march around the world and 'impose' democracy. (How do you IMPOSE a democratic principle!)

Time to wake up, and back off.

So because supposedly the Serbs saved few hundred Americans in WWII (Joe, 1. October 2007 14:54)

Over 500 US American Airmen were saved by Colonel Draza Mijailovic, A Chetnik a former General of the Royal Yugoslav Army. He was postomously awared the Legion of Merit by your former US president, Harry S Truman in 1946. One of only three foreigners to be ever awarded the Legion of Merit.

Joe,
You say that Serbs "supposedly" save hundreds of Americans during WW2. Shall I take this that you a doubtful?
I cannot believe that anyone except Albanians would include such a word in their reply for only the Albanians refuse to accept history as it is.

Serbs have a great record of living in peace. People from all ethnic backgrounds live in Serbia in peace. There are Jews, Croatians, Muslims, Gypsies, Chinese and Albanians living there without problems at all. So you see, Serbia treats it's citizens well regardless of their ethnicity or religion.
The problem in Kosovo is not the Serbs bu K-Albanians who want to separate and one day join up with Albania. Maybe not officially as this might not be legal but the border would be open. We all know this.
It's time to stop telling the same old lie and admit that this is the ultimate goal for K-Albanians. If Serbia treats their ethnic minorities bad, how come so many Chinese have decided to settle there instead of Albania or Croatia or in any other former state of Yugoslavia?

I cannot believe the international community is being fooled by the kosovo Albanian line.
Serbia made its mistakes in the past but this mistake (i.e. recognising declaration of independence) will have a far greater effect on world peace than the war of the '90's.
My only wish is that if this does go the way the Americans want it then it comes back to slap them in the face - when Kosovo implodes, its ecomomy fails, it becomes a breeding ground for terrorists and criminals and all in the back yard of a country (Serbia) who never wanted to allow this in the first place.
Wake up and smell the coffee Europe - an independent Kosovo will lead to far more bloodshed this century.

someone should tell this guy that it is not hegemony if Serbia exercises it´s sovereignty.
simply totally indoctrinated with nonsense.

He is honest and not trying to dupe his people, but instead he is telling Kosovars what is going on and where these talks are leading. Way to go next PM of Kosova, we were with you during more difficult times, thi is piece of cake.

Agim,

Yes, in the US too people consider him as a honest, good guy. You are fortunate to have him as a politician. I think he will be PM of independent Kosovo for a long time and will be very effective.

It is easy to understand why and agreement on the status of Kosovo is impossible between Serbia and Kosovo.
Mr Tadic is talking about autonomy for Kosovo as an end to solve the problem, when he knows, I am sure, that autonomy is simply a step among others. This is the only way to conceive autonomy, otherwise, it would be a half-measure with the pretension of making of the nation a corpse without a soul! Mr Tadic should think of this before making comments. Autonomy has a sense only at the condition that it leads towards independence... And the independence leads to a full liberty.

As we see, autonomy is one among many steps that leads towards independence.

Thaci is an Albanian nationalist who aspires to a greater Albania. His opinion should not be taken seriously in this issue. It would be the same as listening to Milosevic if he was still alive.

Sometimes we can agree to disagree and still be friends otherwise we would have been boring. It is important to accept each others positions in a civilised way. That is how I see the positions of the Kosovar Albanians and Serbian government especially when it comes to the Sovereignity of Kosova. The issue of Sovereignity now more as a matter of pride among other matters which is nothing to do with the concept of "compromise". It is good that both parties are talking to each other but this talking should not be just for the sake of talking. The parties will never agree on Sovereignity at least the Kosovar Albanians will never agree to be Serbian citizen any more. That is why the Serbian government needs to take a realistic view on the matter and look into 21 Century solution. Some comments in here for "offers" about substantial autonomy are nonsense. Kosova is already independent, has got its own democratic institutions. So it is a paradox to talk about Serbian "offers". That is why I appeal to people here to see the issue of Kosova in a realistic way.

First it was Ceku, now it's Thaci stating that Kosovo's primary objective is international recognition, and i'm sure that doesn't just mean recognising an independent Kosovo. As Ceku stated previously, independence with legitimacy is what is required to get the economy back on track.

Can the negotiating teams find some common ground, a solution where both sides can get what they want? I hope so, as everyone would benefit. Their diammetrically opposed positions doesn't help, but there are a few months for them to come around to partitioning the province which would be the only way possible for both sides to say that they got something out of the process. In the meantime we'll just have to listen to the grandstanding from both sides.

Someone should tell serbs not to interfere on what our leaders think. If this is what they have in mind offering us "broad autonomy", we can imagine what it means REALLY this kind of serbian autonomy. That's why will never be part of Serbia never again.

Nobody in the US knows who Thaci is; this last post is albanian propaganda. The Kosovo crisis is deliberately spiked by the American media because they know most of the American people would oppose the creation of another muslim country in Europe.

All these K_Alban proxy politicos are reading from the same script provided by DC. Why is his statement to an Albanian newspaper even news worthy. We've heard their broken record a million times. If he were to say something new, then print it.

JohnyBoy,

Maybe Serbian-Americans don't know him. So who cares about them...they are mostly radical anyway. As far as the Americans are concerned they are less bigots than most Europeans. Also they could care less if there is one European country more or less. They care more about which ones are pro-American and which ones are against us. They definitely know that an independent Kosovo will be pro-American. We also know that Serbia is as pro-American as Iran, Syria or Venezuela. So JohnyBoy don't take your dreams for reality. We know very well who are our friends and ennemies in Europe.

Joe: you say Americans "..definitely know that an independent Kosovo will be pro-American. We also know that Serbia is as pro-American as Iran ..."

Well jus think for a moment. In 1999 America orchestrated the bombing of Serbia for 70 days. These attacks did not focus on military targets (the ostensible agreement for the bombing) but on civil targets, and infrastructure NO WHERE CLOSE to the military targets. And you wonder why the Serbs might not be pro-American?

As to who knows what, the western media - in particular the US media - have never presented the truth to the US population on ANYTHING against the official line. Iraq is another classic example of this. Even some Americans here (I actually work in the Balkan region) have NO IDEA what is happening in Kosovo and who the 'players' are.

The general level of 'ignorance' about issues outside of the US is quite frightening for a country that thinks it has the right to march around the world and 'impose' democracy. (How do you IMPOSE a democratic principle!)

Time to wake up, and back off.

"Kosova is already independent, has got its own democratic institutions. So it is a paradox to talk about Serbian "offers". That is why I appeal to people here to see the issue of Kosova in a realistic way.
(EA, 30. September 2007 13:02)"

Well in order to be realistic you have to admit that what you wrote can't apply north of the Ibar

An agreement is impossible. Thaçi knows what he speaks about.

How many Serbs here can disagree? You must be "unique" to believe that Kosova side is going to accept any offer sent by Srebia.

Rep of Kosova is the only way forward.

Wrong, Joe. Americans care about stopping the spread of Islamic terrorists more than who is our fair weather friend. Don't you think that Islamic terrorists will have an easier time to set up shop in a Muslim country than in a Christian one, I do.

Joe,
You say that Americans know who their friends are and who their enemies are. Did you forget that Serbs saved hundreds of American during WW2. Now you reward them with ripping their country apart.
And you expect friendship in return for that?
To have a friend you must first be a friend. Serbs have proved their friendship to America but America is yet to respect it.

peggy,

So because supposedly the Serbs saved few hundred Americans in WWII that would have in your mind entitled them the American support for their actions in 1999. Peggy the US is not the Balkan. When it comes to the defense of human rights Serbia is about 100 years behind the US.
But going back to 1999 if Serbia would have treated her minorities the same way as Italy or Finnland than there would not have been any bombing. It is sad to see that most Serbs don't seem to understand something very elemantary: when horrible crimes get committed - especially against 2 millions of its own citizens - than there s/b examplary punishment. That punishment was very human and mesured because they wanted to avoid civilian casualties as much as possible. Otherwise if it would not have been done as a surgical, targeted operation there would have been hundreds of thausands of casualties. That would have been the case if it would have been done "a la russe"...how the Russians did it in Tchechnia.

So because supposedly the Serbs saved few hundred Americans in WWII (Joe, 1. October 2007 14:54)

Over 500 US American Airmen were saved by Colonel Draza Mijailovic, A Chetnik a former General of the Royal Yugoslav Army. He was postomously awared the Legion of Merit by your former US president, Harry S Truman in 1946. One of only three foreigners to be ever awarded the Legion of Merit.

Joe,
You say that Serbs "supposedly" save hundreds of Americans during WW2. Shall I take this that you a doubtful?
I cannot believe that anyone except Albanians would include such a word in their reply for only the Albanians refuse to accept history as it is.

Serbs have a great record of living in peace. People from all ethnic backgrounds live in Serbia in peace. There are Jews, Croatians, Muslims, Gypsies, Chinese and Albanians living there without problems at all. So you see, Serbia treats it's citizens well regardless of their ethnicity or religion.
The problem in Kosovo is not the Serbs bu K-Albanians who want to separate and one day join up with Albania. Maybe not officially as this might not be legal but the border would be open. We all know this.
It's time to stop telling the same old lie and admit that this is the ultimate goal for K-Albanians. If Serbia treats their ethnic minorities bad, how come so many Chinese have decided to settle there instead of Albania or Croatia or in any other former state of Yugoslavia?

I cannot believe the international community is being fooled by the kosovo Albanian line.
Serbia made its mistakes in the past but this mistake (i.e. recognising declaration of independence) will have a far greater effect on world peace than the war of the '90's.
My only wish is that if this does go the way the Americans want it then it comes back to slap them in the face - when Kosovo implodes, its ecomomy fails, it becomes a breeding ground for terrorists and criminals and all in the back yard of a country (Serbia) who never wanted to allow this in the first place.
Wake up and smell the coffee Europe - an independent Kosovo will lead to far more bloodshed this century.