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Sunday, 30.09.2007.

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Valley Albanians back Ahtisaari plan

Ethnic Albanian representatives in municipal assemblies in the Preševo Valley, in southern Serbia, convened on Saturday.

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EA

pre 16 godina

Just wandering, what is stopping the Serbian State to grant the Albanian minority in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja the same rights as it is provided for the Serbian minority in Ahtisari Plan.

USLAK

pre 16 godina

I was told by one my buddys the Kosovo situation is unique and after thinking about this it is true. Now we have Presevo deal. This should also emcompass this as well WRONG ANSWER. If you want to live in Serbia then live there if not then leave for the new state of kosovo. If they want to build a military base there then they build it. Stablity of the presevo area will only be effected by the coming from Kosovo side to stir up trouble.

KS
Let's get Kosova independent so we can seek some international assistance to Albanians living world-wide. This has to stop. Is there another place that Albanians need assistance world wide. If you are living abroard why need assistance just come back to Kosovo. Yeah right i don't think that will happen only for vacation to show off the nice cars stuff. I was in Kosovo for almost 7 years i see it ever summer and the weddings and leave your bride in Kosovo and go back to Western Europe where you enjoy your girl on the side. I cannot wait until the December 11 to see what happens. All these proclaimations and what should be and how it should be and yes i cannot wait to see all these jobs materialize when independence is declared. Good Luck all

Noel, UK

pre 16 godina

Peter,

I have been reading this site for over two years now but have refrained from posting comments. This has of course to do with a lack of seriousness offered by some commentators in the contests of international relations and in particular the future status of Kosovo. It is unfortunate that people such as yourself to mention also Kate sometimes divert from the topic and in the process slur Albanians.

It is in order to oppose independence based on your point of view but totally unacceptable to insult an ethnic group.

I got to know many Poles while visiting various restaurants in London and found them likable. Although the telegraph in “Foreigners commit fifth crime in London” has put poles top of the list that doesn’t provide any inference that Poles are endemic criminals.

See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/23/ncrime123.xml

Given the fact that Kosovo is special case under UN administration I strongly believe that the only viable solution for Kosovo is supervisory independence with strong guarantees for minority rights. In addition Preshevo Valley should enjoy the same rights as the Serbs do under Ahtisaari’s plan.

Hope B92 in the future will not publish comments unrelated to the topic

KS

pre 16 godina

Oh the racism.

I guess peace means building one of the biggest military bases right in your yard just so the military can at all times have a sniper pointed at your head.

American's fear of big brother, Albanians have to live with the Evil brother.

Let's get Kosova independent so we can seek some international assistance to Albanians living world-wide. This has to stop.

Destan Belaxhia

pre 16 godina

Cvele,

There are international property laws. My family owns 600 acres of land in Bujanovac. Try to take that away from me.
I was born in Serbia for your information, studied in Belgrade, and witnessed all the racism, discrimination, wars and hate Serbs have put upon Albanians.

bganon

pre 16 godina

Will somebody please tell me what the Albanians living in the areas around Bujanovac have to do with anything?

Unless they are part of a land swap deal they do not have any interest in what goes on in Kosovo and their blessing or not is unecessary.

Oh and I dont see this as much more as any other interest group in Serbian politics that is angling to get their hands on shut up money.

Thats not an Albanian thing thats a problem of the Serbian political system and a legacy of the Yugoslav one.

Endri

pre 16 godina

To make it fair. However, if our refugees are not returned I would support sending all albanians from presevo and bujanovac to albania and giving their homes to the displaced Serbs. While moving our troops into Northern Kosovo to protect loyal citizens there.

How does that sound to you?

cvele it sounds familiar,is exactly what serbia did from the invasion of the albanian lands in 1913 till 1999.im every day more conviced that milosevic wasnt an exception but a typical product of the serbian society.

Jovan

pre 16 godina

I can understand your question, Xefo, but, ...you won´t experience democracy in a mafia-clans-infested Kosovo...

so, no wonder that you ask what democracy is...

EA

pre 16 godina

Cvele,
Let me tell you how does you comment sound to me. Firstly it brings back the memory of your spirutal leader Sllobodan Millosevic whose merit was to destroy the former Yugoslavia. Secondly you and people like you haven't learned from the past and want to dismantle Serbia further. I would like to see all the desplaced people to return to their homes safe and with prospect for their future. That can be achieved only if Kosova becomes fully suoervised independet state as it is provided by the President Ahtisari Plan. The Albanians living in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja should have the same right as Kosova's Serbs provided in President's Ahtisari Plan. In addition the Kosovar Albanian's offer to Serbian government is an excellent one, live and still stands. Join Europe and America Cvele. Enough with war, you have already have lost few. Peace!

CoscoVo

pre 16 godina

An excellent idea, JM. The Serbians should allow the Russians to build a few "Bondsteels" of their own in Southern Serbia. It would be a good security measure should Albanians try and grab more land.

xheffo

pre 16 godina

John said: "Albanians in the south have the choice between Albanian nationalism and the democracy of Serbia".

You must be joking John..What democracy are you talking about??

Destan Belaxhia

pre 16 godina

Belgrade IS concerned with the valley, that's why it is channeling money down to create jobs there. But due to the instability of the region caused by the militant Albanians dream of Greater Albania, it is hard to convince investors. Albanians in the south have the choice between Albanian nationalism and the democracy of Serbia.
(John S., 30. September 2007 14:22)

Are you kidding? There hasn't been any investment in this aerea by the Serbian government for 45 years. If you see any little progress made is done by Albanian private businesses and USAID who has fixed few roads.

Peter Sudyka

pre 16 godina

I just pray that no greater Albania forms in the future, they are completely unable to run a state. Everywhere you see Albanians, there is crime and poverty. While Serbia is not a rich country, it definitely is able to function on its own, and I think that these Valley Albanians should take advantage of the fact that they are a part of a functioning state.

Cvele

pre 16 godina

EA
The Albanians living in Presevo valley should have the same rights as those of the Serbian minority in Kosova as it is entailed in the President Ahtisari Plan. Serbia should start its historic compromise there immediately if she really doesnt want to lose this part of its territory.

The rights they will get are to live like Serbs live in Southern Kosovo. To make it fair. However, if our refugees are not returned I would support sending all albanians from presevo and bujanovac to albania and giving their homes to the displaced Serbs. While moving our troops into Northern Kosovo to protect loyal citizens there.

How does that sound to you?

Michael John

pre 16 godina

I've been to the Presheva Valley recently and was shocked to find it to be a quasi-apartheid State.

My wife's folks are from nearby Vranje which also has many Albanian inhabitants, but they are too intimidated by the Serbian MUP to voice any discontent.

Hopefully, East Kosova will be included, along with Vranje, in the Ahtisaari Plan, since there is no democracy for the Albanians there under Serb rule.

John S.

pre 16 godina

Belgrade IS concerned with the valley, that's why it is channeling money down to create jobs there. But due to the instability of the region caused by the militant Albanians dream of Greater Albania, it is hard to convince investors. Albanians in the south have the choice between Albanian nationalism and the democracy of Serbia.

Jovan

pre 16 godina

very good! the Albanians living in the Preševo-valley are really good poeple!
standing up right now, in this situation is a really good thing, so the whole world can see who is causing the troubles in southern Serbia...

that will certainly have an effect on the international view on the Albanians.
thanks for the PR.

EA

pre 16 godina

The Albanians living in Presevo valley should have the same rights as those of the Serbian minority in Kosova as it is entailed in the President Ahtisari Plan. Serbia should start its historic compromise there immediately if she really doesnt want to lose this part of its territory.

EA

pre 16 godina

The Albanians living in Presevo valley should have the same rights as those of the Serbian minority in Kosova as it is entailed in the President Ahtisari Plan. Serbia should start its historic compromise there immediately if she really doesnt want to lose this part of its territory.

Michael John

pre 16 godina

I've been to the Presheva Valley recently and was shocked to find it to be a quasi-apartheid State.

My wife's folks are from nearby Vranje which also has many Albanian inhabitants, but they are too intimidated by the Serbian MUP to voice any discontent.

Hopefully, East Kosova will be included, along with Vranje, in the Ahtisaari Plan, since there is no democracy for the Albanians there under Serb rule.

Endri

pre 16 godina

To make it fair. However, if our refugees are not returned I would support sending all albanians from presevo and bujanovac to albania and giving their homes to the displaced Serbs. While moving our troops into Northern Kosovo to protect loyal citizens there.

How does that sound to you?

cvele it sounds familiar,is exactly what serbia did from the invasion of the albanian lands in 1913 till 1999.im every day more conviced that milosevic wasnt an exception but a typical product of the serbian society.

EA

pre 16 godina

Cvele,
Let me tell you how does you comment sound to me. Firstly it brings back the memory of your spirutal leader Sllobodan Millosevic whose merit was to destroy the former Yugoslavia. Secondly you and people like you haven't learned from the past and want to dismantle Serbia further. I would like to see all the desplaced people to return to their homes safe and with prospect for their future. That can be achieved only if Kosova becomes fully suoervised independet state as it is provided by the President Ahtisari Plan. The Albanians living in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja should have the same right as Kosova's Serbs provided in President's Ahtisari Plan. In addition the Kosovar Albanian's offer to Serbian government is an excellent one, live and still stands. Join Europe and America Cvele. Enough with war, you have already have lost few. Peace!

Jovan

pre 16 godina

very good! the Albanians living in the Preševo-valley are really good poeple!
standing up right now, in this situation is a really good thing, so the whole world can see who is causing the troubles in southern Serbia...

that will certainly have an effect on the international view on the Albanians.
thanks for the PR.

Cvele

pre 16 godina

EA
The Albanians living in Presevo valley should have the same rights as those of the Serbian minority in Kosova as it is entailed in the President Ahtisari Plan. Serbia should start its historic compromise there immediately if she really doesnt want to lose this part of its territory.

The rights they will get are to live like Serbs live in Southern Kosovo. To make it fair. However, if our refugees are not returned I would support sending all albanians from presevo and bujanovac to albania and giving their homes to the displaced Serbs. While moving our troops into Northern Kosovo to protect loyal citizens there.

How does that sound to you?

Destan Belaxhia

pre 16 godina

Belgrade IS concerned with the valley, that's why it is channeling money down to create jobs there. But due to the instability of the region caused by the militant Albanians dream of Greater Albania, it is hard to convince investors. Albanians in the south have the choice between Albanian nationalism and the democracy of Serbia.
(John S., 30. September 2007 14:22)

Are you kidding? There hasn't been any investment in this aerea by the Serbian government for 45 years. If you see any little progress made is done by Albanian private businesses and USAID who has fixed few roads.

Peter Sudyka

pre 16 godina

I just pray that no greater Albania forms in the future, they are completely unable to run a state. Everywhere you see Albanians, there is crime and poverty. While Serbia is not a rich country, it definitely is able to function on its own, and I think that these Valley Albanians should take advantage of the fact that they are a part of a functioning state.

xheffo

pre 16 godina

John said: "Albanians in the south have the choice between Albanian nationalism and the democracy of Serbia".

You must be joking John..What democracy are you talking about??

CoscoVo

pre 16 godina

An excellent idea, JM. The Serbians should allow the Russians to build a few "Bondsteels" of their own in Southern Serbia. It would be a good security measure should Albanians try and grab more land.

Jovan

pre 16 godina

I can understand your question, Xefo, but, ...you won´t experience democracy in a mafia-clans-infested Kosovo...

so, no wonder that you ask what democracy is...

John S.

pre 16 godina

Belgrade IS concerned with the valley, that's why it is channeling money down to create jobs there. But due to the instability of the region caused by the militant Albanians dream of Greater Albania, it is hard to convince investors. Albanians in the south have the choice between Albanian nationalism and the democracy of Serbia.

bganon

pre 16 godina

Will somebody please tell me what the Albanians living in the areas around Bujanovac have to do with anything?

Unless they are part of a land swap deal they do not have any interest in what goes on in Kosovo and their blessing or not is unecessary.

Oh and I dont see this as much more as any other interest group in Serbian politics that is angling to get their hands on shut up money.

Thats not an Albanian thing thats a problem of the Serbian political system and a legacy of the Yugoslav one.

Destan Belaxhia

pre 16 godina

Cvele,

There are international property laws. My family owns 600 acres of land in Bujanovac. Try to take that away from me.
I was born in Serbia for your information, studied in Belgrade, and witnessed all the racism, discrimination, wars and hate Serbs have put upon Albanians.

KS

pre 16 godina

Oh the racism.

I guess peace means building one of the biggest military bases right in your yard just so the military can at all times have a sniper pointed at your head.

American's fear of big brother, Albanians have to live with the Evil brother.

Let's get Kosova independent so we can seek some international assistance to Albanians living world-wide. This has to stop.

Noel, UK

pre 16 godina

Peter,

I have been reading this site for over two years now but have refrained from posting comments. This has of course to do with a lack of seriousness offered by some commentators in the contests of international relations and in particular the future status of Kosovo. It is unfortunate that people such as yourself to mention also Kate sometimes divert from the topic and in the process slur Albanians.

It is in order to oppose independence based on your point of view but totally unacceptable to insult an ethnic group.

I got to know many Poles while visiting various restaurants in London and found them likable. Although the telegraph in “Foreigners commit fifth crime in London” has put poles top of the list that doesn’t provide any inference that Poles are endemic criminals.

See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/23/ncrime123.xml

Given the fact that Kosovo is special case under UN administration I strongly believe that the only viable solution for Kosovo is supervisory independence with strong guarantees for minority rights. In addition Preshevo Valley should enjoy the same rights as the Serbs do under Ahtisaari’s plan.

Hope B92 in the future will not publish comments unrelated to the topic

USLAK

pre 16 godina

I was told by one my buddys the Kosovo situation is unique and after thinking about this it is true. Now we have Presevo deal. This should also emcompass this as well WRONG ANSWER. If you want to live in Serbia then live there if not then leave for the new state of kosovo. If they want to build a military base there then they build it. Stablity of the presevo area will only be effected by the coming from Kosovo side to stir up trouble.

KS
Let's get Kosova independent so we can seek some international assistance to Albanians living world-wide. This has to stop. Is there another place that Albanians need assistance world wide. If you are living abroard why need assistance just come back to Kosovo. Yeah right i don't think that will happen only for vacation to show off the nice cars stuff. I was in Kosovo for almost 7 years i see it ever summer and the weddings and leave your bride in Kosovo and go back to Western Europe where you enjoy your girl on the side. I cannot wait until the December 11 to see what happens. All these proclaimations and what should be and how it should be and yes i cannot wait to see all these jobs materialize when independence is declared. Good Luck all

EA

pre 16 godina

Just wandering, what is stopping the Serbian State to grant the Albanian minority in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja the same rights as it is provided for the Serbian minority in Ahtisari Plan.

Michael John

pre 16 godina

I've been to the Presheva Valley recently and was shocked to find it to be a quasi-apartheid State.

My wife's folks are from nearby Vranje which also has many Albanian inhabitants, but they are too intimidated by the Serbian MUP to voice any discontent.

Hopefully, East Kosova will be included, along with Vranje, in the Ahtisaari Plan, since there is no democracy for the Albanians there under Serb rule.

Cvele

pre 16 godina

EA
The Albanians living in Presevo valley should have the same rights as those of the Serbian minority in Kosova as it is entailed in the President Ahtisari Plan. Serbia should start its historic compromise there immediately if she really doesnt want to lose this part of its territory.

The rights they will get are to live like Serbs live in Southern Kosovo. To make it fair. However, if our refugees are not returned I would support sending all albanians from presevo and bujanovac to albania and giving their homes to the displaced Serbs. While moving our troops into Northern Kosovo to protect loyal citizens there.

How does that sound to you?

Jovan

pre 16 godina

I can understand your question, Xefo, but, ...you won´t experience democracy in a mafia-clans-infested Kosovo...

so, no wonder that you ask what democracy is...

John S.

pre 16 godina

Belgrade IS concerned with the valley, that's why it is channeling money down to create jobs there. But due to the instability of the region caused by the militant Albanians dream of Greater Albania, it is hard to convince investors. Albanians in the south have the choice between Albanian nationalism and the democracy of Serbia.

Peter Sudyka

pre 16 godina

I just pray that no greater Albania forms in the future, they are completely unable to run a state. Everywhere you see Albanians, there is crime and poverty. While Serbia is not a rich country, it definitely is able to function on its own, and I think that these Valley Albanians should take advantage of the fact that they are a part of a functioning state.

CoscoVo

pre 16 godina

An excellent idea, JM. The Serbians should allow the Russians to build a few "Bondsteels" of their own in Southern Serbia. It would be a good security measure should Albanians try and grab more land.

EA

pre 16 godina

The Albanians living in Presevo valley should have the same rights as those of the Serbian minority in Kosova as it is entailed in the President Ahtisari Plan. Serbia should start its historic compromise there immediately if she really doesnt want to lose this part of its territory.

Jovan

pre 16 godina

very good! the Albanians living in the Preševo-valley are really good poeple!
standing up right now, in this situation is a really good thing, so the whole world can see who is causing the troubles in southern Serbia...

that will certainly have an effect on the international view on the Albanians.
thanks for the PR.

xheffo

pre 16 godina

John said: "Albanians in the south have the choice between Albanian nationalism and the democracy of Serbia".

You must be joking John..What democracy are you talking about??

EA

pre 16 godina

Cvele,
Let me tell you how does you comment sound to me. Firstly it brings back the memory of your spirutal leader Sllobodan Millosevic whose merit was to destroy the former Yugoslavia. Secondly you and people like you haven't learned from the past and want to dismantle Serbia further. I would like to see all the desplaced people to return to their homes safe and with prospect for their future. That can be achieved only if Kosova becomes fully suoervised independet state as it is provided by the President Ahtisari Plan. The Albanians living in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja should have the same right as Kosova's Serbs provided in President's Ahtisari Plan. In addition the Kosovar Albanian's offer to Serbian government is an excellent one, live and still stands. Join Europe and America Cvele. Enough with war, you have already have lost few. Peace!

Endri

pre 16 godina

To make it fair. However, if our refugees are not returned I would support sending all albanians from presevo and bujanovac to albania and giving their homes to the displaced Serbs. While moving our troops into Northern Kosovo to protect loyal citizens there.

How does that sound to you?

cvele it sounds familiar,is exactly what serbia did from the invasion of the albanian lands in 1913 till 1999.im every day more conviced that milosevic wasnt an exception but a typical product of the serbian society.

Destan Belaxhia

pre 16 godina

Belgrade IS concerned with the valley, that's why it is channeling money down to create jobs there. But due to the instability of the region caused by the militant Albanians dream of Greater Albania, it is hard to convince investors. Albanians in the south have the choice between Albanian nationalism and the democracy of Serbia.
(John S., 30. September 2007 14:22)

Are you kidding? There hasn't been any investment in this aerea by the Serbian government for 45 years. If you see any little progress made is done by Albanian private businesses and USAID who has fixed few roads.

bganon

pre 16 godina

Will somebody please tell me what the Albanians living in the areas around Bujanovac have to do with anything?

Unless they are part of a land swap deal they do not have any interest in what goes on in Kosovo and their blessing or not is unecessary.

Oh and I dont see this as much more as any other interest group in Serbian politics that is angling to get their hands on shut up money.

Thats not an Albanian thing thats a problem of the Serbian political system and a legacy of the Yugoslav one.

Destan Belaxhia

pre 16 godina

Cvele,

There are international property laws. My family owns 600 acres of land in Bujanovac. Try to take that away from me.
I was born in Serbia for your information, studied in Belgrade, and witnessed all the racism, discrimination, wars and hate Serbs have put upon Albanians.

KS

pre 16 godina

Oh the racism.

I guess peace means building one of the biggest military bases right in your yard just so the military can at all times have a sniper pointed at your head.

American's fear of big brother, Albanians have to live with the Evil brother.

Let's get Kosova independent so we can seek some international assistance to Albanians living world-wide. This has to stop.

Noel, UK

pre 16 godina

Peter,

I have been reading this site for over two years now but have refrained from posting comments. This has of course to do with a lack of seriousness offered by some commentators in the contests of international relations and in particular the future status of Kosovo. It is unfortunate that people such as yourself to mention also Kate sometimes divert from the topic and in the process slur Albanians.

It is in order to oppose independence based on your point of view but totally unacceptable to insult an ethnic group.

I got to know many Poles while visiting various restaurants in London and found them likable. Although the telegraph in “Foreigners commit fifth crime in London” has put poles top of the list that doesn’t provide any inference that Poles are endemic criminals.

See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/23/ncrime123.xml

Given the fact that Kosovo is special case under UN administration I strongly believe that the only viable solution for Kosovo is supervisory independence with strong guarantees for minority rights. In addition Preshevo Valley should enjoy the same rights as the Serbs do under Ahtisaari’s plan.

Hope B92 in the future will not publish comments unrelated to the topic

USLAK

pre 16 godina

I was told by one my buddys the Kosovo situation is unique and after thinking about this it is true. Now we have Presevo deal. This should also emcompass this as well WRONG ANSWER. If you want to live in Serbia then live there if not then leave for the new state of kosovo. If they want to build a military base there then they build it. Stablity of the presevo area will only be effected by the coming from Kosovo side to stir up trouble.

KS
Let's get Kosova independent so we can seek some international assistance to Albanians living world-wide. This has to stop. Is there another place that Albanians need assistance world wide. If you are living abroard why need assistance just come back to Kosovo. Yeah right i don't think that will happen only for vacation to show off the nice cars stuff. I was in Kosovo for almost 7 years i see it ever summer and the weddings and leave your bride in Kosovo and go back to Western Europe where you enjoy your girl on the side. I cannot wait until the December 11 to see what happens. All these proclaimations and what should be and how it should be and yes i cannot wait to see all these jobs materialize when independence is declared. Good Luck all

EA

pre 16 godina

Just wandering, what is stopping the Serbian State to grant the Albanian minority in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja the same rights as it is provided for the Serbian minority in Ahtisari Plan.