Kosovo independence unacceptable, Tadić tells UN

Looking at all these comments above I can only come to the conclusion that the 'english' language part of this site is suffering from the same influx of Albanians as Kosovo itself.
We started off as equals, now by shear force of numbers the Albanians take over this place.
Once there were Serbs and foreigners discussing news here, now there is a flood of Albanians rushing to each article that is only vaguely connected to Kosovo/Albanians, to show 'how evil the Serbs are'.

I think soon there will be no Serbs left on this part of the B92-site. Again, the parallel with Kosovo is striking.

Typical serbian politics. They accuse the other side of doing something, while it is exactly Serbia who is preparing its troops to enter Northern Kosovo. They have done the same with Albanians since 100 years, by simply lying the international community. Thanks god nobody believes them anymore.

once again we see who likes to mix things, who doesnt like Ballkans to be peaceful.
Mr. tadic Macedonia has a government, has a president, is a member of the UN, if they really had this problem they can speak for themselves...
i think this is counterproductive, and there is no need for this type of exageration of things?! In the end of the day I thought he wanted to be taken seriously NO!
by stating such things about terrorist nests, and by demonising Albanians just because they are Albanian is not going to bring you any success, US EU and others have their own people in Macedonia, thay can report to their governments, nobody is interested to hear your opinion. I see this as meddling in the internal affairs of Macedonia from the side of the Serb President...

Macedonia is far more progressed than Serbia,also it has more credibility in international stage.

Why do albanians always try to hide the truth??? They just know to blame Serbs for everything. After WW2 the population in KiM was 50-50. Now there is 90% albans living there. So WHO has been ethnically clensed???

I really don't understand why all the Albanians are attacking Mr. Tadic??

I mean, as far as your concerned, any politician that doesn't throw his/her hands up in the air and starts declaring Kosovo independent, is somehow a Nationalist from the old days...

Regarding the UN address, it's very diplomatic and well written...

Poke holes in it all you want..
The biggest threat to Albanian independence is a truly democratic and internationally respected Serbia.

"Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Moscow is staying with its original stance that Kosovo independence sets a dangerous precedent and is not acceptable for the Russian foreign political position, not in the UN only, but in general."

Without Russia there will be no independent Kosovo. EVER!

EA,

Enough is enough. Serbian integrity must be restored.

We ageree. This can't go on. International law NOW!

Good luck in Serbia my friend.

If there are terrorists in training, the only way to deal with them is to give them a taste of their own medicine. Negotiating with terrorists is counterproductive.

EA,

If you say: YES (to independence)
And I say: NO (to independence)

Then there is no agreement.
But why the outcome should be yours.

Why the West says: they can't agree, so we do it the Albanian way?
Why not: there is no deal we do it the Serb way?
Or: we force a deal?

EA, again, you are very selfish. Hope your country Serbia will have a great future in Europe. Including Kosovo!

"I see this as meddling in the internal affairs of Macedonia from the side of the Serb President...
(fratko, 27. September 2007 13:55)"
It is not meddling if, as alleged, these terrorists are being trained there to conduct attacks in Kosovo and south Serbia. Every country has the right to protect itself.

Every country, worldwide, should be sharing information regarding possible terrorist cell activity and every report should be investigated.
Recent history shows us that terrorist do not always stay in their own back yard when they decide to kill innocent people who are riding on a bus or train or sitting at a desk in an office building.

And you wait for Kosovo Albanians to accept authonomy within Serbia. Stop Demonizing Albanians.

"Tadić will in the meantime hold several bilateral meetings with international officials to discuss the Kosovo situation."

I totally agree cause thats whats left for Tadic..to discuss and not decide..

Tadic as democrat using the same propagnda as Milosevic is wrong step,he should fined something new to convince the international body.

@MLKG,

"Looking at all these comments above I can only come to the conclusion that the 'english' language part of this site is suffering from the same influx of Albanians as Kosovo itself.
We started off as equals, now by shear force of numbers the Albanians take over this place."

I think this speaks volumes that the Albanians recognize that real/actual power rests in Beograd, and that the only way to change the status quo of a Sovereign Serbia, into a partitioned state, is by convincing the Serbian population to change their political or moral center.

Despite the fact that talk is cheap, and that there is a lot of bickering and repetitious posts here, I find it sad that every aspect of Serbian culture is attacked here, including our excellent president Mr. Boris Tadic, as if we need Albanians to teach us about truth and justice.

Mr. Tadic is geting nervous more and more, this kind of politic must be stoped, he try to convince USA with false arguments.

Cmon folks they are not training terroist in macedonia they are already trained. Why train them again.

Without Russia there will be no independent Kosovo. EVER!
(Cvele)

Well my friend, on '99 Russia wasn't asked then f-18's were flying above your head. That was a harder step than declaring independence for Kosovo. You have to understand that. You have to understand also that Kosovo can’t be divided, it will lead to other reactions, such as Preshevo valey, Macedonia,... The best solution is the one stated by Ahtisaari – “Supervised independence”, remember he was elected by the very UN, I see you here mentioning UN a lot, but you reject Ahtisaari’s plan, this is funny.
Russia didn't help you during NATO bombarding in 1999, they won't help you now either, they can't. US have made its point clear, that there will be independence. Wish you happy new Neighbor and both Serbia and Kosovo I advice to get rid of corruption and continue towards EU integration, other countries such as Croatia and the eastern Balkan countries ones are already one step ahead of you both, so that should be your priority.
Hope to see you soon in EU.

Another proof that Serbia is the big destabilisor in the region, trying to create problems in friendly neighboring countries like Macedonia. Fortunately Macedonia will be in NATO soon.

I guess he joined the "Kostunica Camp" camp too. All they know is point fingers at the others, and accuse others as terrorists. You have plenty terrorist groups in Serbia Mr. Tadic. . . Let me remind you that one of them killed Djindjic few years ago. At least that's not going to happen in Kosovo, unless "Car Lazar" paramilitary goes there.

Dardan,

It has nothing to do with elections. Tadic has to defend the Constitutional Law of Serbia which stipulates that Kosovo is an integral part of Serbia. Also, it is the will of the Serb people that Tadic represents, Kosovo is part of Serbia.

Kate, Princip, Cvele,
Why are we Albanians so intransegent? Because there is nothing to talk when it comes to Soverignity. Read this what Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Moscow is staying with its original stance that Kosovo independence sets a dangerous precedent and is not acceptable for the Russian foreign political position, not in the UN only, but in general."
That is why I have insisted in here that this so-called negotiation are a waste of time and all the lovely words such as "compromise" "no deadline for negotiations" "international law" are just to fool the international community, Europe and USA. It will not work. You will see very fast development after the 10th of December. Enough is enough....Remember!

lowe:

I was wondering where are you getting, all these information’s.
It looks like you are better informed than most of secret services are.

If Serbia is afraid of 6-7 inmates that escaped from prison, God help Serbia. Thi smust be a big joke coming from Mr. Tadic.

Mr. Tadic if you care too much for the world order ( it would be better if you would ask "your reliable" friends - the Russians - not to veto a UN resolution, which is backed by all other countries. Why you have to spend money and time to defend it.

Tadić knows what works best in Serbia during election campaigns...

I'll let you guess, it starts with the letter K.

"Kosovo's independence is unacceptable for Serbia," he told the gathering of the world leaders, and reminded that "only the Security Council can make a legitimate decision on the status of the province," at the same time calling on Kosovo Albanians to engage in the renewed negotiations "without prejudicing the outcome."

This guy is funny. He asks Albanians to come to negotiations "without prejudicing the outcome" but starts his speach with "independance is not acceptable"
Again, Serbia is trying to play the game according to her own rules. Thats why nobody is taking Tadic seriously anymore.

I wonder how did the Greek representative react when Tadic mentioned "northern Macedonia"
Are they going to complain again about that?

Poor Tadic, the democratic Serbia he speaks of and uses to guarantee Kosovo rights does not exist. Kosovo should never be subserviant to Serbia again.

A nice attempt to divert world's attention from this:

Serb group threatens NATO, UN in Kosovo (http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=09&dd=27&nav_category=113&nav_id=44111)

Ron,
Again you are very "confused" when it comes to Kosova issue. I would advise you to read more about Kosova history but not from the Serbian laboratories. As you come from the West at least I "believe" you on that, I would suggest you to use any of the Western libraries and make some independent searches about the history of the conflict in former Yugoslavia and Kosova. There is also a BBC documentary programme which is called "Kosovo War- fair of biased" Google it and you will find there very useful information.
I hope that you and other "Western Europeans" like you change the nationality to Kosova's citizen.

I personally think it is good that Albanians are participating in B 92 blog forums. At this time, the majority of comments might be bigoted and repetitious, but later, people will get sick of it, and continue the normal way. One person complained with the fact that previously only Serbia and foreigners discussed in this forum. Oh, poor you! Now you make it sound like "Albanians" have polluted your dear forum, just like you claimed we have "colonised" Kosovo WWII. It is this kind of snob, unable to hear the other side speak, that brought the situation to what it is between the two sides. Some Serbs in Kosovo claimed they did nothing, but just like the mentioned member of the blog, they didn’t want to face the reality that Albanians were living in apartheid, and closed their eyes. Now finally, when the members of these forums, God forbid, listen to actual Albanians, not those old ones with white hats, but real people speak about their opinions, whatever they might be, now it is a problem. Grow up!.
As for Tadic, no matter how democratic he is, and tactful, he is trying to be under the umbrella of the UN and international law in his speech, protecting Serbia from the extremists. Serbia already lost any claim to int. laws, by taking away Kosovo's assembly in 1989, by simply overriding the constitution of 1974, not to mention what happened during 90's and 98-99. Now, when it is convenient to the politicians in Belgrade, they call on int. law. That is hypocrisy. The reasons for independence are facts on the ground, and they show a majority population that don't want to be ruled by Belgrade anymore. Full stop.

I hope that it is not an attempt to involve as many countries as possible in order to create confusion, just to delay the Kosovo status solution.
It could be a dangerous game.

talking about these? http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/27-09-2007/97833-serbia_target-0

EA,

Thanks. But please believe me: I know a lot about former Yugoslavia.

My problem with forced independence is:

(1) It breaches international law. Sorry, but that is all we got!

(2) You can't expect the Serbs in Kosovo suddenly to live in another country. You don't want to live in Serbia. So you should understand that.

So a split would be fine for me. Both sides agree.
(and yes, there are practcial prolems, I know)

So again, solve these two issues and I will be the first to congretualate Kosovo. Really.

I am not Serb, nor Albanian.

Split as friends then. Like Czech and Slovak!

As another 'Westerner' on this site, maybe people here will think my opinion is not so important. Well, I shall give it anyway ;-)

The President of Serbia (which legally, and in accordance with current International law also includes the province of Kosovo i Metohia) has little option but to declare to the UN that he expects that their own decision (UNSC 1244) will be honoured. He can not unilaterally state otherwise.

People here need to realise that politics is about holding positions until another acceptable position arises. During the 'troubles' in Northern Island the official line of the Westminster Parliament was "we do not deal with terrorists", but of course they DID. And they did so that an acceptable compromise was possible. This process took decades! And is still developing today. Kosovo will be no different.

As for Macedonia, everyone here knows that there are factions of the old KLA who have been re-armed and in training for months. The current Macedonian government is in 'hock' to the Albanian parties, so of course they have no intention of doing anything about it. Western Macedonia is becoming a de facto 'state within a state'. Once Kosovo has its independence (IMHO it will happen eventually -as to WHEN, I can not even hazzard a guess) I can easily anticipate a similar claim from West Macedonia.

It behoves those K-Albanians to show a bit more restraint, and a bit less belicocity if you are to continue to have support from the 'west'. Serbia is now building up a more 'acceptable' profile among the international community. They appear to be more responsive to the needs of some improved autonomy, and are dealing with war criminals (I think one was given 20 years just a few days ago).

K-Albanian politicians need to talk a little less, and think a little more. There is still time for a more peaceful and mutually beneficial solution.

I must admit that we K-Albanians have the nostalgy for everything whats serbian, why do i say this its because in B92 there are more our K Albanian posters then Serbs one, so i think and i'm sure that we cannot live without you Serbia.
Me personaly i read the news, but when i see so many comment i really dont know what to say.

Peace to All
Gezim

Ron:
My problem with forced independence is:

(1) It breaches international law. Sorry, but that is all we got!

(2) You can't expect the Serbs in Kosovo suddenly to live in another country. You don't want to live in Serbia. So you should understand that.

1. Ron what’s your comment on the sovereignty of Sudan over Darfur? Should the genocide politics of the countries be shielded by the sovereignty and IL?

2. why 200 thousands of K-Serbs can’t live in independent Kosova but is acceptable for you that 2 million Albanians live in Serbia? Do you think this is fair?

Ron: although I’m not an expert in IL but there are more or less two major theories/philosophies on the state sovereignties:

1. the sovereignty of the states comes out from their citizens
2. the sovereignty of the states comes out from the barrel of the gun

The first one is accepted by the democratic world, the one that we Albanians would like for Kosova. The second one is the theory of Mao.

Which one would apply to the Serbian sovereignty on Kosova?

@MKLG

When I read your post I can't help but see you screaming: They are coming...They are coming...lol. Hey, this is the internet and the power that it generates. If you can't deal with it, you can just isolate yourself with your close family and never leave home.

Honestly the Albanian minority should be proud to be part of Serbia rather than moaning to US. They'll get all the independence and prosperity and they are still here pretending the impossible.

wish you all a good day!

Typical serbian politics. They accuse the other side of doing something, while it is exactly Serbia who is preparing its troops to enter Northern Kosovo. They have done the same with Albanians since 100 years, by simply lying the international community. Thanks god nobody believes them anymore.

once again we see who likes to mix things, who doesnt like Ballkans to be peaceful.
Mr. tadic Macedonia has a government, has a president, is a member of the UN, if they really had this problem they can speak for themselves...
i think this is counterproductive, and there is no need for this type of exageration of things?! In the end of the day I thought he wanted to be taken seriously NO!
by stating such things about terrorist nests, and by demonising Albanians just because they are Albanian is not going to bring you any success, US EU and others have their own people in Macedonia, thay can report to their governments, nobody is interested to hear your opinion. I see this as meddling in the internal affairs of Macedonia from the side of the Serb President...

Macedonia is far more progressed than Serbia,also it has more credibility in international stage.

Tadic as democrat using the same propagnda as Milosevic is wrong step,he should fined something new to convince the international body.

Mr. Tadic is geting nervous more and more, this kind of politic must be stoped, he try to convince USA with false arguments.

Why do albanians always try to hide the truth??? They just know to blame Serbs for everything. After WW2 the population in KiM was 50-50. Now there is 90% albans living there. So WHO has been ethnically clensed???

"Tadić will in the meantime hold several bilateral meetings with international officials to discuss the Kosovo situation."

I totally agree cause thats whats left for Tadic..to discuss and not decide..

"I see this as meddling in the internal affairs of Macedonia from the side of the Serb President...
(fratko, 27. September 2007 13:55)"
It is not meddling if, as alleged, these terrorists are being trained there to conduct attacks in Kosovo and south Serbia. Every country has the right to protect itself.

Another proof that Serbia is the big destabilisor in the region, trying to create problems in friendly neighboring countries like Macedonia. Fortunately Macedonia will be in NATO soon.

If there are terrorists in training, the only way to deal with them is to give them a taste of their own medicine. Negotiating with terrorists is counterproductive.

talking about these? http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/27-09-2007/97833-serbia_target-0

Kate, Princip, Cvele,
Why are we Albanians so intransegent? Because there is nothing to talk when it comes to Soverignity. Read this what Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Moscow is staying with its original stance that Kosovo independence sets a dangerous precedent and is not acceptable for the Russian foreign political position, not in the UN only, but in general."
That is why I have insisted in here that this so-called negotiation are a waste of time and all the lovely words such as "compromise" "no deadline for negotiations" "international law" are just to fool the international community, Europe and USA. It will not work. You will see very fast development after the 10th of December. Enough is enough....Remember!

Cmon folks they are not training terroist in macedonia they are already trained. Why train them again.

And you wait for Kosovo Albanians to accept authonomy within Serbia. Stop Demonizing Albanians.

I guess he joined the "Kostunica Camp" camp too. All they know is point fingers at the others, and accuse others as terrorists. You have plenty terrorist groups in Serbia Mr. Tadic. . . Let me remind you that one of them killed Djindjic few years ago. At least that's not going to happen in Kosovo, unless "Car Lazar" paramilitary goes there.

"Kosovo's independence is unacceptable for Serbia," he told the gathering of the world leaders, and reminded that "only the Security Council can make a legitimate decision on the status of the province," at the same time calling on Kosovo Albanians to engage in the renewed negotiations "without prejudicing the outcome."

This guy is funny. He asks Albanians to come to negotiations "without prejudicing the outcome" but starts his speach with "independance is not acceptable"
Again, Serbia is trying to play the game according to her own rules. Thats why nobody is taking Tadic seriously anymore.

I wonder how did the Greek representative react when Tadic mentioned "northern Macedonia"
Are they going to complain again about that?

If Serbia is afraid of 6-7 inmates that escaped from prison, God help Serbia. Thi smust be a big joke coming from Mr. Tadic.

Mr. Tadic if you care too much for the world order ( it would be better if you would ask "your reliable" friends - the Russians - not to veto a UN resolution, which is backed by all other countries. Why you have to spend money and time to defend it.

Without Russia there will be no independent Kosovo. EVER!
(Cvele)

Well my friend, on '99 Russia wasn't asked then f-18's were flying above your head. That was a harder step than declaring independence for Kosovo. You have to understand that. You have to understand also that Kosovo can’t be divided, it will lead to other reactions, such as Preshevo valey, Macedonia,... The best solution is the one stated by Ahtisaari – “Supervised independence”, remember he was elected by the very UN, I see you here mentioning UN a lot, but you reject Ahtisaari’s plan, this is funny.
Russia didn't help you during NATO bombarding in 1999, they won't help you now either, they can't. US have made its point clear, that there will be independence. Wish you happy new Neighbor and both Serbia and Kosovo I advice to get rid of corruption and continue towards EU integration, other countries such as Croatia and the eastern Balkan countries ones are already one step ahead of you both, so that should be your priority.
Hope to see you soon in EU.

I hope that it is not an attempt to involve as many countries as possible in order to create confusion, just to delay the Kosovo status solution.
It could be a dangerous game.

A nice attempt to divert world's attention from this:

Serb group threatens NATO, UN in Kosovo (http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=09&dd=27&nav_category=113&nav_id=44111)

Tadić knows what works best in Serbia during election campaigns...

I'll let you guess, it starts with the letter K.

Ron,
Again you are very "confused" when it comes to Kosova issue. I would advise you to read more about Kosova history but not from the Serbian laboratories. As you come from the West at least I "believe" you on that, I would suggest you to use any of the Western libraries and make some independent searches about the history of the conflict in former Yugoslavia and Kosova. There is also a BBC documentary programme which is called "Kosovo War- fair of biased" Google it and you will find there very useful information.
I hope that you and other "Western Europeans" like you change the nationality to Kosova's citizen.

@MLKG,

"Looking at all these comments above I can only come to the conclusion that the 'english' language part of this site is suffering from the same influx of Albanians as Kosovo itself.
We started off as equals, now by shear force of numbers the Albanians take over this place."

I think this speaks volumes that the Albanians recognize that real/actual power rests in Beograd, and that the only way to change the status quo of a Sovereign Serbia, into a partitioned state, is by convincing the Serbian population to change their political or moral center.

Despite the fact that talk is cheap, and that there is a lot of bickering and repetitious posts here, I find it sad that every aspect of Serbian culture is attacked here, including our excellent president Mr. Boris Tadic, as if we need Albanians to teach us about truth and justice.

Every country, worldwide, should be sharing information regarding possible terrorist cell activity and every report should be investigated.
Recent history shows us that terrorist do not always stay in their own back yard when they decide to kill innocent people who are riding on a bus or train or sitting at a desk in an office building.

Looking at all these comments above I can only come to the conclusion that the 'english' language part of this site is suffering from the same influx of Albanians as Kosovo itself.
We started off as equals, now by shear force of numbers the Albanians take over this place.
Once there were Serbs and foreigners discussing news here, now there is a flood of Albanians rushing to each article that is only vaguely connected to Kosovo/Albanians, to show 'how evil the Serbs are'.

I think soon there will be no Serbs left on this part of the B92-site. Again, the parallel with Kosovo is striking.

EA,

If you say: YES (to independence)
And I say: NO (to independence)

Then there is no agreement.
But why the outcome should be yours.

Why the West says: they can't agree, so we do it the Albanian way?
Why not: there is no deal we do it the Serb way?
Or: we force a deal?

EA, again, you are very selfish. Hope your country Serbia will have a great future in Europe. Including Kosovo!

Dardan,

It has nothing to do with elections. Tadic has to defend the Constitutional Law of Serbia which stipulates that Kosovo is an integral part of Serbia. Also, it is the will of the Serb people that Tadic represents, Kosovo is part of Serbia.

Poor Tadic, the democratic Serbia he speaks of and uses to guarantee Kosovo rights does not exist. Kosovo should never be subserviant to Serbia again.

I must admit that we K-Albanians have the nostalgy for everything whats serbian, why do i say this its because in B92 there are more our K Albanian posters then Serbs one, so i think and i'm sure that we cannot live without you Serbia.
Me personaly i read the news, but when i see so many comment i really dont know what to say.

Peace to All
Gezim

lowe:

I was wondering where are you getting, all these information’s.
It looks like you are better informed than most of secret services are.

"Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Moscow is staying with its original stance that Kosovo independence sets a dangerous precedent and is not acceptable for the Russian foreign political position, not in the UN only, but in general."

Without Russia there will be no independent Kosovo. EVER!

EA,

Enough is enough. Serbian integrity must be restored.

We ageree. This can't go on. International law NOW!

Good luck in Serbia my friend.

I really don't understand why all the Albanians are attacking Mr. Tadic??

I mean, as far as your concerned, any politician that doesn't throw his/her hands up in the air and starts declaring Kosovo independent, is somehow a Nationalist from the old days...

Regarding the UN address, it's very diplomatic and well written...

Poke holes in it all you want..
The biggest threat to Albanian independence is a truly democratic and internationally respected Serbia.

I personally think it is good that Albanians are participating in B 92 blog forums. At this time, the majority of comments might be bigoted and repetitious, but later, people will get sick of it, and continue the normal way. One person complained with the fact that previously only Serbia and foreigners discussed in this forum. Oh, poor you! Now you make it sound like "Albanians" have polluted your dear forum, just like you claimed we have "colonised" Kosovo WWII. It is this kind of snob, unable to hear the other side speak, that brought the situation to what it is between the two sides. Some Serbs in Kosovo claimed they did nothing, but just like the mentioned member of the blog, they didn’t want to face the reality that Albanians were living in apartheid, and closed their eyes. Now finally, when the members of these forums, God forbid, listen to actual Albanians, not those old ones with white hats, but real people speak about their opinions, whatever they might be, now it is a problem. Grow up!.
As for Tadic, no matter how democratic he is, and tactful, he is trying to be under the umbrella of the UN and international law in his speech, protecting Serbia from the extremists. Serbia already lost any claim to int. laws, by taking away Kosovo's assembly in 1989, by simply overriding the constitution of 1974, not to mention what happened during 90's and 98-99. Now, when it is convenient to the politicians in Belgrade, they call on int. law. That is hypocrisy. The reasons for independence are facts on the ground, and they show a majority population that don't want to be ruled by Belgrade anymore. Full stop.

Ron:
My problem with forced independence is:

(1) It breaches international law. Sorry, but that is all we got!

(2) You can't expect the Serbs in Kosovo suddenly to live in another country. You don't want to live in Serbia. So you should understand that.

1. Ron what’s your comment on the sovereignty of Sudan over Darfur? Should the genocide politics of the countries be shielded by the sovereignty and IL?

2. why 200 thousands of K-Serbs can’t live in independent Kosova but is acceptable for you that 2 million Albanians live in Serbia? Do you think this is fair?

Ron: although I’m not an expert in IL but there are more or less two major theories/philosophies on the state sovereignties:

1. the sovereignty of the states comes out from their citizens
2. the sovereignty of the states comes out from the barrel of the gun

The first one is accepted by the democratic world, the one that we Albanians would like for Kosova. The second one is the theory of Mao.

Which one would apply to the Serbian sovereignty on Kosova?

@MKLG

When I read your post I can't help but see you screaming: They are coming...They are coming...lol. Hey, this is the internet and the power that it generates. If you can't deal with it, you can just isolate yourself with your close family and never leave home.

EA,

Thanks. But please believe me: I know a lot about former Yugoslavia.

My problem with forced independence is:

(1) It breaches international law. Sorry, but that is all we got!

(2) You can't expect the Serbs in Kosovo suddenly to live in another country. You don't want to live in Serbia. So you should understand that.

So a split would be fine for me. Both sides agree.
(and yes, there are practcial prolems, I know)

So again, solve these two issues and I will be the first to congretualate Kosovo. Really.

I am not Serb, nor Albanian.

Split as friends then. Like Czech and Slovak!

As another 'Westerner' on this site, maybe people here will think my opinion is not so important. Well, I shall give it anyway ;-)

The President of Serbia (which legally, and in accordance with current International law also includes the province of Kosovo i Metohia) has little option but to declare to the UN that he expects that their own decision (UNSC 1244) will be honoured. He can not unilaterally state otherwise.

People here need to realise that politics is about holding positions until another acceptable position arises. During the 'troubles' in Northern Island the official line of the Westminster Parliament was "we do not deal with terrorists", but of course they DID. And they did so that an acceptable compromise was possible. This process took decades! And is still developing today. Kosovo will be no different.

As for Macedonia, everyone here knows that there are factions of the old KLA who have been re-armed and in training for months. The current Macedonian government is in 'hock' to the Albanian parties, so of course they have no intention of doing anything about it. Western Macedonia is becoming a de facto 'state within a state'. Once Kosovo has its independence (IMHO it will happen eventually -as to WHEN, I can not even hazzard a guess) I can easily anticipate a similar claim from West Macedonia.

It behoves those K-Albanians to show a bit more restraint, and a bit less belicocity if you are to continue to have support from the 'west'. Serbia is now building up a more 'acceptable' profile among the international community. They appear to be more responsive to the needs of some improved autonomy, and are dealing with war criminals (I think one was given 20 years just a few days ago).

K-Albanian politicians need to talk a little less, and think a little more. There is still time for a more peaceful and mutually beneficial solution.

Honestly the Albanian minority should be proud to be part of Serbia rather than moaning to US. They'll get all the independence and prosperity and they are still here pretending the impossible.

wish you all a good day!