Serbia sends seven planes to Greece

Just because Albania has no planes that can't even take off.

That is what good neighbors are suppose to do in times off need.

HVALA PUNO SERBIAN BROTHERS,

HELLAS - SERBIA - ORTHODOXY

This news is invisible to the Albanian posters as they are still claiming on this forum they don't see any news on Serbia sending planes or help.

Of course, we need to help our brothers in the south.

This is more than many of the larger and wealthier European countries.

It is still big PR, I have checked more reliable news , such as; bbc, cnn etc... and did not see serbian name on the list of help coming outside of Greece. If serbia has send those planes , is maybe becasue they are in dire need for repairs and will never have the chance to do any fire extengushing at all. I am still eyeing more relaible news services to see the list of countries that are helping.
By the way how soon you guys forget that you were thanking russia for giving you help on wild fires , which they were no different than fires that raged in Kosova and we managed with our own resources and 2-3 KFOR helicpters that is all.

Serbian brothers, EVHARISTO POLI, many thanks!

but but but Agim said that it was just a PR stunt from Serbia and no planes were sent. How could you not believe his fair and balanced commenting.

How can you help another country when you had fires going on in your country and nowhere near on this scale and you need it help yourself. Don't kid yourself with empty propaganda.

First of all I want to say how terrible this is. Not just for the people in Greece, but also the wildlife, forests and property. It's a terrible disaster and it will be interesting to see what sort of 'terrorists' (according to Greek authorities) have done this.

You're right Ahmet and Agim -the Serbian planes are all a big publicity stunt. Even the Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg and Deutsche Welle (which as we know adores Serbia) are now in on it [Link http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2752324,00.html].

"On Monday, Greece was expecting four firefighting planes from Serbia and two from Spain, while two helicopters each were to arrive from Germany and the Netherlands. Israel, Romania, Norway and Slovenia were each sending one helicopter, while Switzerland and Iceland have also offered assistance."

Hey 'KS' is Ceku the great administrator and controller of Nato air power going to offer any help? I hope that his coordinates are better this time!

The birthplace of Western civilization is burning and all Europeans should help in any way possible. God rest the souls of the Greek people who have perished in this most tragic way.

Here is a link to the Irish Times - a breaking story - which says the 7 planes from Serbia have now joined in:

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/0828/breaking12.htm

"Serbia joined in with seven planes today, while France had four planes and 60 firefighters on the ground."

Fine, fine...it would be pointless to argue that no planes were ever sent. But, still, there's no such thing as free lunch in international (regional) relations, so I'm sure any assistance by Belgrade is done with the belief that Greece will 'appreciate' it. That's like diplomatic code for returning the favour in 'rainy days.'

If anyone is inclined to link this to the Kosovo status - as in, the Greek support for an option that falls short of independence - then seven planes won't get Belgrade any closer to its options.

Or, maybe, who knows...maybe Serbia has such a large air fleet that it may be hoping fires start all over the place, and so it can win backing for its policy towards Kosovo by sending in 'assistance planes.'

Regardless, I think this act should be commended, because those planes will be saving lives.

But, there's never free lunches...

Agim i don't think they are worried about who sends what as long as they put out the dam fires. Thank you B92 for allowing equal comments no matter how stupid they are.

Ok... this is nuts.

This is about Greece not Kosovo and Serbia

The Serbian government was able to help with the fires and it's doing so. It's a good neighbourly gesture and that is that.

Great news.The planes arrived one day after they were not needed.Those from France have 5 days fighting the fires and serb ones just arrived.Be proud.Albania donated $100 000

Even before the fire has turned into catastrophe, Russia provided more aircraft to Greece than any other country. Be-200 plane of the RF Emergency Ministry, six Mi-26 helicopters, two Mi-8 helicopters and five Ka-32 helicopters are currently there.Most of the firefighters who have arrived from 21 countries were operating in the Peloponnese.A group of 55 Israeli firefighters were helping combat one of the worst fires around Krestena, near Ancient Olympia.Serbia joined in with seven planes today, while France had four panes and 60 firefighters on the ground.

Help from everywhere but Macedonia! We were turned back at the border!! This shows how politicised the "Greek" is. Truly heartbreaking.

harmid you need to go back to afganistan, this is talking about greece, i think the fires are still burning. You have no respect for the deceased.

Hamid Karzai, french pilots do not need visas for EU. Othervise Serb aircrafts would be the first and the best!

Dear Dimitar,

Even your name sounds so Greek to me anyway ... Well your country FYROM or let say Northern-SLAV-Macedonia sent some kind of help (I'm not so sure what kind, sorry that I'm not informed) when our hour of need had passed ... Nice trick ... And after all what kind of help could u provide to us? If you really want to help Hellas and of course yourselves stop distorting history.
Best regards

Black 1,
There is very little logic to anything "Greeks" say when it comes to Macedonia! You are no exception!!

If we could we would have sent 5000 water bombers for our brothers. However attention count. 7 is not bad for serbia. :)

Dear Dimitar

It's unbelievable that you talk about logic ... But I know it's not your fault. Your people have been taught a distorted full of propaganda version of history for more of half a century. But now it's time to start learning about the normal history that everybody in the world knows. You know I work for an international EU mission and sometimes when people from various countries use to laugh with your efforts to appear as "macedonians" and as heirs of the macedonian legacy, I defend you and I say that you just repeat what you have learnt ... But my friend I recomend you to start study serious and objective history books. You can find many of these in the western world. It's time to move and learn the truth ... After all some study never killed anyone. Best.

I want to inform you that I have studied the recent and not only history of Hellas. I am very proud for the period 1912-1913 when we doulblesized our territory and the Hellenic army freed millions of Hellenes that they still were in slavery ...

Hey 'KS' is Ceku the great administrator and controller of Nato air power going to offer any help? I hope that his coordinates are better this time!
(kate, 28. August 2007 17:13)

Don't reply to me on places that I do not read. I came here by mistake. I only read from category "Kosovo status."

Ceku helped NATO bomb your country, he is not a firefighter.

I'm reading other places, no where anything about air planes.

Black One, it matters not to me who you work for for you only parrot the "official truth" as taught to you by the West, that Macedonian heritage belongs to Greece. You should know that "history" is written by the victors (read Edward Hallet Carr, "What is History"); doesn't make it true!!
Why don't you study your own recent history? You may come up with a clue or two as to why Greeks have the most fragile ego in Europe. For example the cultural (and literal ) genocide of the ethnic Macedonians from Aegean Macedonia since 1912/13, and Greece's desire to hide this historic fact.

It is still big PR, I have checked more reliable news , such as; bbc, cnn etc... and did not see serbian name on the list of help coming outside of Greece. If serbia has send those planes , is maybe becasue they are in dire need for repairs and will never have the chance to do any fire extengushing at all. I am still eyeing more relaible news services to see the list of countries that are helping.
By the way how soon you guys forget that you were thanking russia for giving you help on wild fires , which they were no different than fires that raged in Kosova and we managed with our own resources and 2-3 KFOR helicpters that is all.

How can you help another country when you had fires going on in your country and nowhere near on this scale and you need it help yourself. Don't kid yourself with empty propaganda.

Hey 'KS' is Ceku the great administrator and controller of Nato air power going to offer any help? I hope that his coordinates are better this time!
(kate, 28. August 2007 17:13)

Don't reply to me on places that I do not read. I came here by mistake. I only read from category "Kosovo status."

Ceku helped NATO bomb your country, he is not a firefighter.

I'm reading other places, no where anything about air planes.

Great news.The planes arrived one day after they were not needed.Those from France have 5 days fighting the fires and serb ones just arrived.Be proud.Albania donated $100 000

That is what good neighbors are suppose to do in times off need.

but but but Agim said that it was just a PR stunt from Serbia and no planes were sent. How could you not believe his fair and balanced commenting.

Help from everywhere but Macedonia! We were turned back at the border!! This shows how politicised the "Greek" is. Truly heartbreaking.

Dear Dimitar,

Even your name sounds so Greek to me anyway ... Well your country FYROM or let say Northern-SLAV-Macedonia sent some kind of help (I'm not so sure what kind, sorry that I'm not informed) when our hour of need had passed ... Nice trick ... And after all what kind of help could u provide to us? If you really want to help Hellas and of course yourselves stop distorting history.
Best regards

Black 1,
There is very little logic to anything "Greeks" say when it comes to Macedonia! You are no exception!!

Black One, it matters not to me who you work for for you only parrot the "official truth" as taught to you by the West, that Macedonian heritage belongs to Greece. You should know that "history" is written by the victors (read Edward Hallet Carr, "What is History"); doesn't make it true!!
Why don't you study your own recent history? You may come up with a clue or two as to why Greeks have the most fragile ego in Europe. For example the cultural (and literal ) genocide of the ethnic Macedonians from Aegean Macedonia since 1912/13, and Greece's desire to hide this historic fact.

This is more than many of the larger and wealthier European countries.

This news is invisible to the Albanian posters as they are still claiming on this forum they don't see any news on Serbia sending planes or help.

Of course, we need to help our brothers in the south.

Fine, fine...it would be pointless to argue that no planes were ever sent. But, still, there's no such thing as free lunch in international (regional) relations, so I'm sure any assistance by Belgrade is done with the belief that Greece will 'appreciate' it. That's like diplomatic code for returning the favour in 'rainy days.'

If anyone is inclined to link this to the Kosovo status - as in, the Greek support for an option that falls short of independence - then seven planes won't get Belgrade any closer to its options.

Or, maybe, who knows...maybe Serbia has such a large air fleet that it may be hoping fires start all over the place, and so it can win backing for its policy towards Kosovo by sending in 'assistance planes.'

Regardless, I think this act should be commended, because those planes will be saving lives.

But, there's never free lunches...

Just because Albania has no planes that can't even take off.

HVALA PUNO SERBIAN BROTHERS,

HELLAS - SERBIA - ORTHODOXY

First of all I want to say how terrible this is. Not just for the people in Greece, but also the wildlife, forests and property. It's a terrible disaster and it will be interesting to see what sort of 'terrorists' (according to Greek authorities) have done this.

You're right Ahmet and Agim -the Serbian planes are all a big publicity stunt. Even the Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg and Deutsche Welle (which as we know adores Serbia) are now in on it [Link http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2752324,00.html].

"On Monday, Greece was expecting four firefighting planes from Serbia and two from Spain, while two helicopters each were to arrive from Germany and the Netherlands. Israel, Romania, Norway and Slovenia were each sending one helicopter, while Switzerland and Iceland have also offered assistance."

Hey 'KS' is Ceku the great administrator and controller of Nato air power going to offer any help? I hope that his coordinates are better this time!

Agim i don't think they are worried about who sends what as long as they put out the dam fires. Thank you B92 for allowing equal comments no matter how stupid they are.

Ok... this is nuts.

This is about Greece not Kosovo and Serbia

The Serbian government was able to help with the fires and it's doing so. It's a good neighbourly gesture and that is that.

Here is a link to the Irish Times - a breaking story - which says the 7 planes from Serbia have now joined in:

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/0828/breaking12.htm

"Serbia joined in with seven planes today, while France had four planes and 60 firefighters on the ground."

Serbian brothers, EVHARISTO POLI, many thanks!

The birthplace of Western civilization is burning and all Europeans should help in any way possible. God rest the souls of the Greek people who have perished in this most tragic way.

harmid you need to go back to afganistan, this is talking about greece, i think the fires are still burning. You have no respect for the deceased.

Even before the fire has turned into catastrophe, Russia provided more aircraft to Greece than any other country. Be-200 plane of the RF Emergency Ministry, six Mi-26 helicopters, two Mi-8 helicopters and five Ka-32 helicopters are currently there.Most of the firefighters who have arrived from 21 countries were operating in the Peloponnese.A group of 55 Israeli firefighters were helping combat one of the worst fires around Krestena, near Ancient Olympia.Serbia joined in with seven planes today, while France had four panes and 60 firefighters on the ground.

Hamid Karzai, french pilots do not need visas for EU. Othervise Serb aircrafts would be the first and the best!

If we could we would have sent 5000 water bombers for our brothers. However attention count. 7 is not bad for serbia. :)

Dear Dimitar

It's unbelievable that you talk about logic ... But I know it's not your fault. Your people have been taught a distorted full of propaganda version of history for more of half a century. But now it's time to start learning about the normal history that everybody in the world knows. You know I work for an international EU mission and sometimes when people from various countries use to laugh with your efforts to appear as "macedonians" and as heirs of the macedonian legacy, I defend you and I say that you just repeat what you have learnt ... But my friend I recomend you to start study serious and objective history books. You can find many of these in the western world. It's time to move and learn the truth ... After all some study never killed anyone. Best.

I want to inform you that I have studied the recent and not only history of Hellas. I am very proud for the period 1912-1913 when we doulblesized our territory and the Hellenic army freed millions of Hellenes that they still were in slavery ...