Ceku: Independence in December

What does Ceku plan on doing once his declaration is not heard by anybody?Did the EU german guy not tell him that the EU will not recognize anything this year which is not agreed to by Belgrade?Is Ceku playing deaf and dumb?

The Boogey Man is making idle threats again. Wasn't independence going to be proclaimed late last year as well? The man has no credibility left. All he has is a jail cell with his name on it.

I thought that the Albanian 'beza' is suppose mean something? Generally when an Albanian says he'll do it it's suppose to be done no matter what otherwise you're not considered worthy or respected. He promised last year, then this summer, then Nov. 27th and now Dec.10th. What a good comedian this guy is and after Dec.10th his punchline will be next year..

Finally, I been waiting for Prishtina to tell the UN to get lost.

I'd rather live in a isolated country recognized by Albania, Macedonia, and US, any day.

Being recognized by the USA means being recognized by one of the most powerful forces on earth. I think we'll do better than alright.

"First, the international community must act quickly to recognize our country."

Asked what would happen after December 10, when a Troika of U.S., EU and Russian envoys heading the new talks is to report back to the United Nations, Ceku said:

"The only development I expect is the declaration and recognition of Kosovo's independence. This must happen immediately after December 10."

This chap is a comedian & does his job as well as earns his pay as a "wannabe" politician. He says exactly what you want to hear. The one who is laughing now is me as you're the blokes who believe this.

By the way, the last time I checked as well as everyone else pro/con Serbia, KosovO is STILL a geographic part of Serbia. So, who's country is he referring to? Must be the "greater albania" as Ceku is ethically albanian. He's so confused, he doesn't even want to admit he's albanian!

There is a difference between saying that SC will approve resolution granting independence in December, and Kosovo parliament declaring independence in December. You cannot stop albanians declaring independence in Dec, and if EU want to wait few months before it recognizes Kosovo, so be it.
(nikshala, 28. August 2007 10:43)

EU will never recognize Kosovo without UN. Anyone that recognises it stands to lose a lot of money. EU is all about cost efficiency and you are not cost efficient. Why would EU make a huge problem from Kosovo for itself when it could just as easily let Serbia deal with it when they are able and willing. Serbs will fight for their land and just like albans will not agree to autonomy, Serbs will not agree to independence.

To KS,

So because the USA is on your side you are 'right'. What is wrong with a great autonomy within Serbia.

Like the Basues have in Spain? Do you favor an independent Basque?
Please reply!!

Pristina does not say anything! Pristina says what the EU, Germany, allows them to say. Am I the only one that sees this? K_Albanians have no say. The EU puppet masters provide the script, and the Pristina puppets speak. And that is the way it will always be.

HAHAHAHA. Why not declare independence now or last year? Cekuku is the biggest joke in the world.

To Mr.Agim Ceku: do not worry about it - under the current international law the goal of any form of "independence" for Kosmet is unattainable! You are entitled "a broad-based autonomy" only!

Kosova had the autonomous status same as Republic Status under Ex-Yugoslavia and also by this status Kosova was constitutive part of Yugoslavia which meant if Kosova go away Yugoslavia wouldn't exist anymore. So you are talking about autonomy like Basks in Spain which for me is not anything wrong if Serbia was like Spain but unfortunately Serbia is not like Spain because Spain never massacredbasks and they never took away their autonomous status even if Basks still now days fight Spain for secession. So us you see the problem is not with Kosova but the problem is with Serbia because Serbia lasted every right in the world to claim Kosova back because the country that massacres their own citizens is not a country but is a terrorist organization. Prime Minister of Kosova is right when he says that after 10 December the international community should recognize the independence of our blessed country because we was going to declare our independence of our Blessed country during this year and last year but we were pushed by our traditional ally USA to postpone this decision until they exhaust every other possibility to do this in the desired way but this last faze is the last chance for Russia and Serbia to accept the reality and if they don’t do it of course we will proceed with the independence declaration and then US and other EU countries one by one will recognize our Blessed country as independent and that’s it. But one thing that Serbs have to be sure is that we are not waiting for them to agree or disagree, we are waiting for US and EU to bring together their views and decide to finally and officially recognize our Blessed country as an independent country. And we know that Serbia will not agree for Kosova independence and this is the reason why we had all that war going one in 1998-1999 because if waited for Serbia to agree we never wouldn’t be here where we are now. And if Serbs try to say that only because they never accepted Kosova as independent will give them the right to come back and try to take over Kosova they will be welcomed at any time to try this but I am very sure that after US and EU recognize Kosova as an Blessed Independent country Serbia will do the same thing because otherwise they will have to forgot about integration into EU and NATO forever, and the only integration that Serbia will be able to achieve will be the one with Russia by going back to Carpats where they came from.

God Bless Kosova, God Bless America, Amen

Did Ceku say,
"First, the international community must act quickly to recognize our country".
Where has Ceku been!
Everyone knows including international community that Kosovo and Metohija is legal sovereign territory of Serbia.
No need to recognize what is already legally recognized.

In the 1960 during the revolution in Cuba we promised to help the free cubans to topple Fidel Castro, the US promised air support when the freedom fighters landed the US chicken out because they did not want to confront then USSR now days Russia. So keep placing your eggs in a basket. For those who are doubters read this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion

Good one Ceku! Now you can act so surprised when independence doesn't materialise, again.

I think Ceku's going to be so disillusioned with the outcome he’ll move back to his homeland, Croatia.

To KS,

So because the USA is on your side you are 'right'. What is wrong with a great autonomy within Serbia.

Like the Basues have in Spain? Do you favor an independent Basque?
Please reply!!
(Ron, 28. August 2007 01:44)

I will not reply. I will state my opinion (like before).

Alliance

Kosova + America (50 states) + Puerto Rico

Serbia + Russia

America is one of the most powerful forces on earth. I don't know if I can say the same about Russia, maybe they are, but I don't know.

Let's not talk about status.
Let's see what the talks unfold.

a deja vu or should i say: same procedure as every year (since 1999)!

what has happend with the "indiependence" on nov. 28th??? one more "word of honor" a la albanese???

the good counter-indicator ceku is, is the reasen that now all of us know: there won´t happen anything in 2007!

thanks for information to agim "i told you once" cekulovic.

Ron

Asking naive questions like that shows how little you know about Kosovo. There is no point discussing autonomy even theoretically since albanians will never accept it, and even theoretically Serbia has never offered any real plan or alternative that would work.

There is a difference between saying that SC will approve resolution granting independence in December, and Kosovo parliament declaring independence in December. You cannot stop albanians declaring independence in Dec, and if EU want to wait few months before it recognizes Kosovo, so be it.

Nikshala is absolutely right.

The government of Kosova must declare independence after the UNSC receives the report in December. It is obvious that the resolution for an independent Kosova is not going to pass, therefore there is no reason why Kosova shouldn’t declare independence by December. Of course the EU wouldn’t jump in recognising the independence before the US does so.

In my view by declaring the independence the Kosovan government will have a greater chance in achieving their goal recognition. Once the US recognises an independent Kosova , the UK , France and other will follow suit.

no, KS... you really shouldn´t talk about moral rights or ethics at all...

since the K-albanians simply have no moral, ethical, historical or legal rights whatsoever in regard to Kosovo, the southern serbian province...

you would only be talking without having any credibility in regard to those things...

Ron,
when were the Basque last ethnically cleansed by the Castellan Spaniards? What do you think would happen if such a thing occured on the dawn of 21st century?
Please reply!!

To Ron:

I took the right to reply to you as this might be question addressed to one person, but you will have same answer from 2 mil Kosovars and some more milion Albanians in Balkans and wider:

great authonomy within serbia is a dead story since 20 years, kosovo is surely building its independecy day after day and kosovo doesn't have to think to solve or not all global national open issues. whoever acts like serbia with an authonom subject and its national minorities lose the right to govern with them...
good luck kosovo on your own way...

"it could just as easily let Serbia deal with it when they are able and willing. Serbs will fight for their land and just like albans will not agree to autonomy,"

Cvele can you elaborate on these words a bit more, because, unless I am very wrong, you are making a call to another ethnic cleansing, something that is totally against the rules of posting in a forum like this.

EU will never recognize Kosovo without UN. Anyone that recognises it stands to lose a lot of money. EU is all about cost efficiency and you are not cost efficient. Why would EU make a huge problem from Kosovo for itself when it could just as easily let Serbia deal with it when they are able and willing. Serbs will fight for their land and just like albans will not agree to autonomy, Serbs will not agree to independence.
(Cvele, 28. August 2007 16:42)

EU will recognize it bc it needs Kosova as piece in the puzzle to control a lot things that may come through SE Europe. Kosova has a lot of mineral riches (13 billion $) and it has the youngest population in Europe (meaning cheap cheap labor). Let's not forget that a stable democratic Kosova is a major stability to this part of the world. EU gains a lot from an independent Kosova. This is all ^^^ economically speaking, I don't want to talk about moral right or ethics bc serb camp will be angered.

EU will recognize it bc it needs Kosova as piece in the puzzle to control a lot things that may come through SE Europe. Kosova has a lot of mineral riches (13 billion $) and it has the youngest population in Europe (meaning cheap cheap labor). Let's not forget that a stable democratic Kosova is a major stability to this part of the world. EU gains a lot from an independent Kosova. This is all ^^^ economically speaking, I don't want to talk about moral right or ethics bc serb camp will be angered.
(KS, 28. August 2007 19:31)

OMG!!!! Not a whole 13 billion???? WOW!!! As well as cheap labour????? You cant be serious?!?!

- 13B is nothing to Europe. Im not even going to bother explaining why to you.

- Cheap labour? They will bring in people from Turkey... wait arnt they doing that anyway? They will bring in more then. Also remember these are educated people they are bringing in. (Ive been trying to find literacy rate in Kosovo but havent been successful.)
As for the pipeline to carry their oil and gas relief. If they give independence to Kosovo, Russia will follow up by dismanteling Georgia. So those pipelines from the caucasus wont happen anyway.

Best for EU to leave Kosovo as part of Serbia and to be quiet. This way they will make/save a lot of money and wont have to deal with the albans anymore.

CCCC

Im sure you knew all this and just played ignorent to the facts. Or you didnt and now you know.

Toni
What if US and EU dont recognize you? What will happen then?

Jovan keep your wise knowledge towards moral rights bc your post is not producing any productive arguments -- instead you are insulting me, while b92 sits and watches this hate-speech.

Jovo, it is Serbia that does not have:
1. Moral right. How could you have a moral right over a land that you occupy?
2. Ethical right. You gain ethical right if you do good, for betterment of lives of others, and certainly that is not the case with Serbia, by massacring others you show that you do not have not even a shred of ethics.
3. Historical right. Let’s not get into it. You have historical right to Caucasus.
4. Legal right. There is no such a thing as legal occupation.

Jovo, it is Serbia that does not have:
1. Moral right. How could you have a moral right over a land that you occupy?
2. Ethical right. You gain ethical right if you do good, for betterment of lives of others, and certainly that is not the case with Serbia, by massacring others you show that you do not have not even a shred of ethics.
3. Historical right. Let’s not get into it. You have historical right to Caucasus.
4. Legal right. There is no such a thing as legal occupation.
(Albion, 29. August 2007 08:57)

ok lets see.

1) Last time I checked, Kosovo - Methojia is a constituent entity of the Republic of Serbia. Serbia's sovereignty over Kosovo was enshrined by the 1974 Constitution of the SFRJ, Helsinki Agreement of 1975 and UN Resolution 1224 that once again reaffirmed Serbia's territorial integrity.

2. Oh come on. I have a been a frequent observer of these boards for the last while and all I get is the constant drone from the K-Albanian of massacres. Of course the MUP did carry out some nasty acts, well so did the KLA in the buildup to the NATO bombing deliberatley provoking the JNA and Yugoslav police into retaliating (it worked a treat btw). By using your 'ethical' argument Croatia by now should also relinquish its right to Kraijina, Britain to Northern Ireland, Turkey of Kurdistan, Indonesia of Banda Aceh & West Papua, Mexico of Chiapas Region, Sudan of Darfur etc. Do you want me to go on.

3. Historical Right - Kosovo was part of the old medieval Serbian Kingdom, they lost it to the Turks in 1389, gaining it back again in 1912, but by that time you were the majority (as a result of Turkish policy) and that gets you royally miffed as you never from day 1 accepted Serbia's jurisdiction, irrespective what she done, good or bad.

4. Legal right - see 1 above or do you simply want to tear up all the international treaties that I have mentioned that is the cornerstone of preserving some semblance of international stability along with the UN to suit your own expansionist polical agenda. Get with the times. A little advice for you. Look to the Irish peace process, work from that example and sit down with Belgrade and hammer out a compromise that is acceptable to all. The intransigent position of the K-Albanians is doing you absolutley no favour and fast losing you of any sympathy you had in the outset.

What does Ceku plan on doing once his declaration is not heard by anybody?Did the EU german guy not tell him that the EU will not recognize anything this year which is not agreed to by Belgrade?Is Ceku playing deaf and dumb?

Finally, I been waiting for Prishtina to tell the UN to get lost.

I'd rather live in a isolated country recognized by Albania, Macedonia, and US, any day.

Being recognized by the USA means being recognized by one of the most powerful forces on earth. I think we'll do better than alright.

"First, the international community must act quickly to recognize our country."

Asked what would happen after December 10, when a Troika of U.S., EU and Russian envoys heading the new talks is to report back to the United Nations, Ceku said:

"The only development I expect is the declaration and recognition of Kosovo's independence. This must happen immediately after December 10."

This chap is a comedian & does his job as well as earns his pay as a "wannabe" politician. He says exactly what you want to hear. The one who is laughing now is me as you're the blokes who believe this.

By the way, the last time I checked as well as everyone else pro/con Serbia, KosovO is STILL a geographic part of Serbia. So, who's country is he referring to? Must be the "greater albania" as Ceku is ethically albanian. He's so confused, he doesn't even want to admit he's albanian!

The Boogey Man is making idle threats again. Wasn't independence going to be proclaimed late last year as well? The man has no credibility left. All he has is a jail cell with his name on it.

There is a difference between saying that SC will approve resolution granting independence in December, and Kosovo parliament declaring independence in December. You cannot stop albanians declaring independence in Dec, and if EU want to wait few months before it recognizes Kosovo, so be it.
(nikshala, 28. August 2007 10:43)

EU will never recognize Kosovo without UN. Anyone that recognises it stands to lose a lot of money. EU is all about cost efficiency and you are not cost efficient. Why would EU make a huge problem from Kosovo for itself when it could just as easily let Serbia deal with it when they are able and willing. Serbs will fight for their land and just like albans will not agree to autonomy, Serbs will not agree to independence.

I thought that the Albanian 'beza' is suppose mean something? Generally when an Albanian says he'll do it it's suppose to be done no matter what otherwise you're not considered worthy or respected. He promised last year, then this summer, then Nov. 27th and now Dec.10th. What a good comedian this guy is and after Dec.10th his punchline will be next year..

HAHAHAHA. Why not declare independence now or last year? Cekuku is the biggest joke in the world.

Kosova had the autonomous status same as Republic Status under Ex-Yugoslavia and also by this status Kosova was constitutive part of Yugoslavia which meant if Kosova go away Yugoslavia wouldn't exist anymore. So you are talking about autonomy like Basks in Spain which for me is not anything wrong if Serbia was like Spain but unfortunately Serbia is not like Spain because Spain never massacredbasks and they never took away their autonomous status even if Basks still now days fight Spain for secession. So us you see the problem is not with Kosova but the problem is with Serbia because Serbia lasted every right in the world to claim Kosova back because the country that massacres their own citizens is not a country but is a terrorist organization. Prime Minister of Kosova is right when he says that after 10 December the international community should recognize the independence of our blessed country because we was going to declare our independence of our Blessed country during this year and last year but we were pushed by our traditional ally USA to postpone this decision until they exhaust every other possibility to do this in the desired way but this last faze is the last chance for Russia and Serbia to accept the reality and if they don’t do it of course we will proceed with the independence declaration and then US and other EU countries one by one will recognize our Blessed country as independent and that’s it. But one thing that Serbs have to be sure is that we are not waiting for them to agree or disagree, we are waiting for US and EU to bring together their views and decide to finally and officially recognize our Blessed country as an independent country. And we know that Serbia will not agree for Kosova independence and this is the reason why we had all that war going one in 1998-1999 because if waited for Serbia to agree we never wouldn’t be here where we are now. And if Serbs try to say that only because they never accepted Kosova as independent will give them the right to come back and try to take over Kosova they will be welcomed at any time to try this but I am very sure that after US and EU recognize Kosova as an Blessed Independent country Serbia will do the same thing because otherwise they will have to forgot about integration into EU and NATO forever, and the only integration that Serbia will be able to achieve will be the one with Russia by going back to Carpats where they came from.

God Bless Kosova, God Bless America, Amen

Ron

Asking naive questions like that shows how little you know about Kosovo. There is no point discussing autonomy even theoretically since albanians will never accept it, and even theoretically Serbia has never offered any real plan or alternative that would work.

There is a difference between saying that SC will approve resolution granting independence in December, and Kosovo parliament declaring independence in December. You cannot stop albanians declaring independence in Dec, and if EU want to wait few months before it recognizes Kosovo, so be it.

Nikshala is absolutely right.

The government of Kosova must declare independence after the UNSC receives the report in December. It is obvious that the resolution for an independent Kosova is not going to pass, therefore there is no reason why Kosova shouldn’t declare independence by December. Of course the EU wouldn’t jump in recognising the independence before the US does so.

In my view by declaring the independence the Kosovan government will have a greater chance in achieving their goal recognition. Once the US recognises an independent Kosova , the UK , France and other will follow suit.

Pristina does not say anything! Pristina says what the EU, Germany, allows them to say. Am I the only one that sees this? K_Albanians have no say. The EU puppet masters provide the script, and the Pristina puppets speak. And that is the way it will always be.

To KS,

So because the USA is on your side you are 'right'. What is wrong with a great autonomy within Serbia.

Like the Basues have in Spain? Do you favor an independent Basque?
Please reply!!

Did Ceku say,
"First, the international community must act quickly to recognize our country".
Where has Ceku been!
Everyone knows including international community that Kosovo and Metohija is legal sovereign territory of Serbia.
No need to recognize what is already legally recognized.

Ron,
when were the Basque last ethnically cleansed by the Castellan Spaniards? What do you think would happen if such a thing occured on the dawn of 21st century?
Please reply!!

To KS,

So because the USA is on your side you are 'right'. What is wrong with a great autonomy within Serbia.

Like the Basues have in Spain? Do you favor an independent Basque?
Please reply!!
(Ron, 28. August 2007 01:44)

I will not reply. I will state my opinion (like before).

Alliance

Kosova + America (50 states) + Puerto Rico

Serbia + Russia

America is one of the most powerful forces on earth. I don't know if I can say the same about Russia, maybe they are, but I don't know.

Let's not talk about status.
Let's see what the talks unfold.

To Mr.Agim Ceku: do not worry about it - under the current international law the goal of any form of "independence" for Kosmet is unattainable! You are entitled "a broad-based autonomy" only!

To Ron:

I took the right to reply to you as this might be question addressed to one person, but you will have same answer from 2 mil Kosovars and some more milion Albanians in Balkans and wider:

great authonomy within serbia is a dead story since 20 years, kosovo is surely building its independecy day after day and kosovo doesn't have to think to solve or not all global national open issues. whoever acts like serbia with an authonom subject and its national minorities lose the right to govern with them...
good luck kosovo on your own way...

In the 1960 during the revolution in Cuba we promised to help the free cubans to topple Fidel Castro, the US promised air support when the freedom fighters landed the US chicken out because they did not want to confront then USSR now days Russia. So keep placing your eggs in a basket. For those who are doubters read this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion

a deja vu or should i say: same procedure as every year (since 1999)!

what has happend with the "indiependence" on nov. 28th??? one more "word of honor" a la albanese???

the good counter-indicator ceku is, is the reasen that now all of us know: there won´t happen anything in 2007!

thanks for information to agim "i told you once" cekulovic.

Good one Ceku! Now you can act so surprised when independence doesn't materialise, again.

I think Ceku's going to be so disillusioned with the outcome he’ll move back to his homeland, Croatia.

"it could just as easily let Serbia deal with it when they are able and willing. Serbs will fight for their land and just like albans will not agree to autonomy,"

Cvele can you elaborate on these words a bit more, because, unless I am very wrong, you are making a call to another ethnic cleansing, something that is totally against the rules of posting in a forum like this.

EU will never recognize Kosovo without UN. Anyone that recognises it stands to lose a lot of money. EU is all about cost efficiency and you are not cost efficient. Why would EU make a huge problem from Kosovo for itself when it could just as easily let Serbia deal with it when they are able and willing. Serbs will fight for their land and just like albans will not agree to autonomy, Serbs will not agree to independence.
(Cvele, 28. August 2007 16:42)

EU will recognize it bc it needs Kosova as piece in the puzzle to control a lot things that may come through SE Europe. Kosova has a lot of mineral riches (13 billion $) and it has the youngest population in Europe (meaning cheap cheap labor). Let's not forget that a stable democratic Kosova is a major stability to this part of the world. EU gains a lot from an independent Kosova. This is all ^^^ economically speaking, I don't want to talk about moral right or ethics bc serb camp will be angered.

no, KS... you really shouldn´t talk about moral rights or ethics at all...

since the K-albanians simply have no moral, ethical, historical or legal rights whatsoever in regard to Kosovo, the southern serbian province...

you would only be talking without having any credibility in regard to those things...

EU will recognize it bc it needs Kosova as piece in the puzzle to control a lot things that may come through SE Europe. Kosova has a lot of mineral riches (13 billion $) and it has the youngest population in Europe (meaning cheap cheap labor). Let's not forget that a stable democratic Kosova is a major stability to this part of the world. EU gains a lot from an independent Kosova. This is all ^^^ economically speaking, I don't want to talk about moral right or ethics bc serb camp will be angered.
(KS, 28. August 2007 19:31)

OMG!!!! Not a whole 13 billion???? WOW!!! As well as cheap labour????? You cant be serious?!?!

- 13B is nothing to Europe. Im not even going to bother explaining why to you.

- Cheap labour? They will bring in people from Turkey... wait arnt they doing that anyway? They will bring in more then. Also remember these are educated people they are bringing in. (Ive been trying to find literacy rate in Kosovo but havent been successful.)
As for the pipeline to carry their oil and gas relief. If they give independence to Kosovo, Russia will follow up by dismanteling Georgia. So those pipelines from the caucasus wont happen anyway.

Best for EU to leave Kosovo as part of Serbia and to be quiet. This way they will make/save a lot of money and wont have to deal with the albans anymore.

CCCC

Im sure you knew all this and just played ignorent to the facts. Or you didnt and now you know.

Toni
What if US and EU dont recognize you? What will happen then?

Jovan keep your wise knowledge towards moral rights bc your post is not producing any productive arguments -- instead you are insulting me, while b92 sits and watches this hate-speech.

Jovo, it is Serbia that does not have:
1. Moral right. How could you have a moral right over a land that you occupy?
2. Ethical right. You gain ethical right if you do good, for betterment of lives of others, and certainly that is not the case with Serbia, by massacring others you show that you do not have not even a shred of ethics.
3. Historical right. Let’s not get into it. You have historical right to Caucasus.
4. Legal right. There is no such a thing as legal occupation.

Jovo, it is Serbia that does not have:
1. Moral right. How could you have a moral right over a land that you occupy?
2. Ethical right. You gain ethical right if you do good, for betterment of lives of others, and certainly that is not the case with Serbia, by massacring others you show that you do not have not even a shred of ethics.
3. Historical right. Let’s not get into it. You have historical right to Caucasus.
4. Legal right. There is no such a thing as legal occupation.
(Albion, 29. August 2007 08:57)

ok lets see.

1) Last time I checked, Kosovo - Methojia is a constituent entity of the Republic of Serbia. Serbia's sovereignty over Kosovo was enshrined by the 1974 Constitution of the SFRJ, Helsinki Agreement of 1975 and UN Resolution 1224 that once again reaffirmed Serbia's territorial integrity.

2. Oh come on. I have a been a frequent observer of these boards for the last while and all I get is the constant drone from the K-Albanian of massacres. Of course the MUP did carry out some nasty acts, well so did the KLA in the buildup to the NATO bombing deliberatley provoking the JNA and Yugoslav police into retaliating (it worked a treat btw). By using your 'ethical' argument Croatia by now should also relinquish its right to Kraijina, Britain to Northern Ireland, Turkey of Kurdistan, Indonesia of Banda Aceh & West Papua, Mexico of Chiapas Region, Sudan of Darfur etc. Do you want me to go on.

3. Historical Right - Kosovo was part of the old medieval Serbian Kingdom, they lost it to the Turks in 1389, gaining it back again in 1912, but by that time you were the majority (as a result of Turkish policy) and that gets you royally miffed as you never from day 1 accepted Serbia's jurisdiction, irrespective what she done, good or bad.

4. Legal right - see 1 above or do you simply want to tear up all the international treaties that I have mentioned that is the cornerstone of preserving some semblance of international stability along with the UN to suit your own expansionist polical agenda. Get with the times. A little advice for you. Look to the Irish peace process, work from that example and sit down with Belgrade and hammer out a compromise that is acceptable to all. The intransigent position of the K-Albanians is doing you absolutley no favour and fast losing you of any sympathy you had in the outset.