Belgrade announces Kosovo team

I hope he gets picked for the negotiating team. It would be even better if Nikolic and Koshtunica were the only ones in the team.

What a beatiful display it would be of pure racism and medival ideology: they will refuse to shake hands with albanians, they will curse at americans, and Koshtunica will say ' i don't want to sit here because Ceku is facing me' and than Nikolic will save the day by pulling out of his bag two 'Micheal Jackson' masks for him and Koshtunica to protect them from the same air that albanians are breathing. Maybe they should take Vuk with them, so he can storm in and out, in and out, you know to create a bit of drama.

Hope B92 publishes this.

I agree, he represents a large part of the Serbian population and he should be in the negociating team.

It would help the Kosova Albanian team very much, makes their job a lot easier.

Nick, you are right. Serbs cannot realise that with the current tempo of the radicalism, very soon they will end up in the Beograd’s pašaluk. It is unfortunate for neighbouring countries such as Kosova to have radical neighbours. Instead of us talking about the economic relationships, we have to talk about building the Chinese wall to make sure these radicals do not cross the border and infect Kosovar politicians.

Actually there is nothing all that “radical” about the Radicals! They are not much different then the Republicans in the US, but because they won’t sell out and become puppets to the US, Germany they are viewed in the West as some kind of demonic entity that needs to be stopped at all costs. This type of “demonizing” is counterproductive, immature, and at its worse perverse. Unfortunately, this manipulation of the reality is prevalent in the West especially in the US where Americans are too concerned about consuming themselves to death rather then sifting through government, media propaganda. The Radicals are “evil” because they believe that Serbia should be an independent, sovereign, territorially intact nation that serves the will of the Serbian people within their borders. This idea is too “Radical” for the land grabbing Albanians and their Western supporters.

You think Pristina actually arranged the bombing of Serbia? That's hilarious!
(kate, 27. August 2007 21:0

Katy, you need to wake up. Since you don't know anything besides what you read on sebrianna.com i will inform you. Ceku gave cordinates to nato to strategically bomb targets. Ceku also faught alongside with the Croatians to liberate that country.

I didn't say Prishtina bombed serbia, nor did prishtina ordered Nato, serbia made Nato bomb serbia. Actions speak louder than words.

Jon, both Serbia and Kosovo are radicalizing. Your ill-informed statement of Serbia being reduced to the Belgrade Pashaluk is indicative of that and serves no merit whatsoever. But whereas Ceku needs to be on the negotiating team to secure some sort of legacy for himself as achieving what Rugova could not, Nikolic and the SRS are smart enough (if you could equate "smartness" with the SRS) in staying as far away from Kosovo as possible. This way, they are not responsible for any diplomatic and political failures, and can present themselves to the Serb voters as the only "clean" party in town, thereby securing a parliamentary majority once the dust settles.

I for one think the SRS should take a firm stand on the matter. But not in the same form as Nick argues (though if given a megaphone and their known rhetoric, it will make your job easier). They are the largest party in Serbia, they talk all the time about preserving Serbia's territorial integrity, and they need to be taken to task to do something other than act as the vocal opposition party. If they fail in their efforts, their biggest platform is destroyed. They will either have to admit decisive defeat, or opt for a compromise solution in which overly Albanian parts of Kosovo are detached, and Serb sectors remain under some sort of administrative connection.

The problem with Balkan politics is that the most vocal and most sectarian parties of each state, often tend to be those without any real notions of power or authority. In the same way Pristina needs to either put up, or shut up, the SRS needs to do something useful too.

Here we go,

" Albanian leaders have time and again insisted that independence is the only option, while Serbia strongly opposes the Albanian demand.

The European Union is also preferring independence for Kosovo. "

Any last words...?

Nikshala,
I enjoyed your funny posting!
Posting it also shows that B92 has the sense of humor.

In the same way Pristina needs to either put up, or shut up, the SRS needs to do something useful too.
(Mike, 27. August 2007 17:36)

Put up or shut up? Didn't Prishtina get NATO to bomb your country for 11 weeks straight? Didn't NATO destroy 55 bridges?
Is it not true that ever since the NATO air strikes your country has ZERO control of Kosova anymore? Prishtina has been doing much more than you believe.

104 days.

Also radicals are biggest party and you claimed that they talk about territorial-preservence and yet I just read in this article that they don't want to be in these talks, is it because they know the outcome so they want no claim to the blame of the outcome? You are right, they seem smart.

:))Radicals, good way to reach the so called 'intended' compromise. I think, i havent seen any comment that does not include some naivity. Land grabbing Albanians!? What does this mean!? I myself, poses a plot of land, about 200 friends i know also have land. None of them, neither did i grabbed it from someone. But me and my friends want to govern our land and so we want to delegate our powers to somone we trust. Someone that can save my house, not burn it like Serbs did it once, someone that provides law and order within democratic means, and not beat me. Hence, thanks a lot for Serbs' 'good services'. I dont want them, i want to govern it my self for very functional reasons. If you want your political 'churches' you are free to prey, pull the down, build another 100. But never ever say land grabbing albanians. Normally i should send you to court, off course i cant. But shame on you for having offerended and and labelled me for a crime which i never committed.

KS - "Didn't Prishtina get NATO to bomb your country for 11 weeks straight?"

You think Pristina actually arranged the bombing of Serbia? That's hilarious!

KS
The bombing of Serbia had nothing to do with albans. They were the Balkan "WMDs".

ks, what did you get out of the bombing? kosovo isnt even a country so you should stay low because you know karma...

Is this an Albanian Agim Ceku? Then he is the one who lead the unit in Medak pocket, when several Canadian soldiers were wounded, trying to protect that Serbian village from massacre. Then Serbian government should send secret police to Vienna, one like the Israeli government sent to Buenos Aires, and arrested dr. Mandel and send him to Jerusalem where he was prosecuted. This is what Serbian security forces should do with this criminal. Or it may be better. Canada should ask Austrian Government to arrest him and extradite to Ottawa for criminal prosecution. We wounded Canadian solders are heaving long time waiting for the justice to be properly applied on this bandit.

Question: Who are this people who are willing to negotiate with this criminal, and what?

KS
The bombing of Serbia had nothing to do with albans. They were the Balkan "WMDs".
(Cvele, 28. August 2007 00:15)

You should run for president.

CBC showed how Canadian Soldiers were captured and tied against the pole by serb KLXSunits of Mladic during Bosnia Conflict.

KS
The bombing of Serbia had nothing to do with albans. They were the Balkan "WMDs".
(Cvele, 28. August 2007 00:15)

You should run for president.
(KS, 28. August 2007 05:52)

Only if you promise I have your vote.

I will vote for you if you run in Kosova for the post of president.

“Katy, you need to wake up. Since you don't know anything besides what you read on sebrianna.com i will inform you. Ceku gave cordinates to nato to strategically bomb targets. Ceku also faught alongside with the Croatians to liberate that country”.
(KS, 27. August 2007 23:42)

KS,
Ceku should be doing 20 to life in the Hague! Have you ever heard of Medak Pocket in Croatia? This is what your illustrious hero (Ceku) did. Don’t insult our intelligence! Read the facts before you make grotesque comments. The quote below is from the Jewish world review.

Marko

” It was here that the men of the 2nd Battalion of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry came face to face with the savagery of which [Agim] Ceku was capable. Over 200 Serbian inhabitants of the Medak Pocket were slaughtered in a grotesque manner (the bodies of female rape victims were found after being burned alive). Our traumatized troops who buried the grisly remains were encouraged to collect evidence and were assured that the perpetrators would be brought to justice
Nevertheless in 1995, Ceku, by then trained by U.S. instructors as a general of artillery, was still at large. In fact, he was the officer responsible for shelling the Serbian refugee columns and for targeting the UN-declared "safe" city of Knin during the Croatian offensive known as Operation Storm [which the New York Times called "the largest single 'ethnic cleansing' of the war"]. Some 500 innocent civilians perished in those merciless barrages, and senior Canadian officers who witnessed the slaughter demanded that Ceku be indicted. Once again, their pleas fell of deaf ears.

Today Ceku is the Prime Minister of Kosovo, and he enjoyed a warm reception from Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice when the two met over the summer to discuss how best to speed along independence for the Serbian province that this war criminal governs, sans rule of law and beholden to al Qaeda.

"Throughout the air campaign against Yugoslavia," continues Taylor, Ceku — by then commanding KLA terrorists in driving two-thirds of the remaining Christian Serbs out, along with the gypsies, Croats, Jews, Ashkalis, Gorani, and other non-Muslim or non-Albanians in Kosovo — "was portrayed as a loyal ally and he was frequently present at NATO briefings with top generals such as Wesley Clark and Michael Jackson."

Today, the "bin Laden Mosque," built in 2001 (aptly enough), stands tall in Kosovo, where Bill Clinton murals and Wesley Clark Streets are almost as prevalent as bin Laden keychains”.
http://jewishworldreview.com/julia/gorin111006.php3

I hope he gets picked for the negotiating team. It would be even better if Nikolic and Koshtunica were the only ones in the team.

What a beatiful display it would be of pure racism and medival ideology: they will refuse to shake hands with albanians, they will curse at americans, and Koshtunica will say ' i don't want to sit here because Ceku is facing me' and than Nikolic will save the day by pulling out of his bag two 'Micheal Jackson' masks for him and Koshtunica to protect them from the same air that albanians are breathing. Maybe they should take Vuk with them, so he can storm in and out, in and out, you know to create a bit of drama.

Hope B92 publishes this.

You think Pristina actually arranged the bombing of Serbia? That's hilarious!
(kate, 27. August 2007 21:0

Katy, you need to wake up. Since you don't know anything besides what you read on sebrianna.com i will inform you. Ceku gave cordinates to nato to strategically bomb targets. Ceku also faught alongside with the Croatians to liberate that country.

I didn't say Prishtina bombed serbia, nor did prishtina ordered Nato, serbia made Nato bomb serbia. Actions speak louder than words.

Nick, you are right. Serbs cannot realise that with the current tempo of the radicalism, very soon they will end up in the Beograd’s pašaluk. It is unfortunate for neighbouring countries such as Kosova to have radical neighbours. Instead of us talking about the economic relationships, we have to talk about building the Chinese wall to make sure these radicals do not cross the border and infect Kosovar politicians.

I agree, he represents a large part of the Serbian population and he should be in the negociating team.

It would help the Kosova Albanian team very much, makes their job a lot easier.

In the same way Pristina needs to either put up, or shut up, the SRS needs to do something useful too.
(Mike, 27. August 2007 17:36)

Put up or shut up? Didn't Prishtina get NATO to bomb your country for 11 weeks straight? Didn't NATO destroy 55 bridges?
Is it not true that ever since the NATO air strikes your country has ZERO control of Kosova anymore? Prishtina has been doing much more than you believe.

104 days.

Also radicals are biggest party and you claimed that they talk about territorial-preservence and yet I just read in this article that they don't want to be in these talks, is it because they know the outcome so they want no claim to the blame of the outcome? You are right, they seem smart.

Nikshala,
I enjoyed your funny posting!
Posting it also shows that B92 has the sense of humor.

KS - "Didn't Prishtina get NATO to bomb your country for 11 weeks straight?"

You think Pristina actually arranged the bombing of Serbia? That's hilarious!

ks, what did you get out of the bombing? kosovo isnt even a country so you should stay low because you know karma...

Here we go,

" Albanian leaders have time and again insisted that independence is the only option, while Serbia strongly opposes the Albanian demand.

The European Union is also preferring independence for Kosovo. "

Any last words...?

Jon, both Serbia and Kosovo are radicalizing. Your ill-informed statement of Serbia being reduced to the Belgrade Pashaluk is indicative of that and serves no merit whatsoever. But whereas Ceku needs to be on the negotiating team to secure some sort of legacy for himself as achieving what Rugova could not, Nikolic and the SRS are smart enough (if you could equate "smartness" with the SRS) in staying as far away from Kosovo as possible. This way, they are not responsible for any diplomatic and political failures, and can present themselves to the Serb voters as the only "clean" party in town, thereby securing a parliamentary majority once the dust settles.

I for one think the SRS should take a firm stand on the matter. But not in the same form as Nick argues (though if given a megaphone and their known rhetoric, it will make your job easier). They are the largest party in Serbia, they talk all the time about preserving Serbia's territorial integrity, and they need to be taken to task to do something other than act as the vocal opposition party. If they fail in their efforts, their biggest platform is destroyed. They will either have to admit decisive defeat, or opt for a compromise solution in which overly Albanian parts of Kosovo are detached, and Serb sectors remain under some sort of administrative connection.

The problem with Balkan politics is that the most vocal and most sectarian parties of each state, often tend to be those without any real notions of power or authority. In the same way Pristina needs to either put up, or shut up, the SRS needs to do something useful too.

Actually there is nothing all that “radical” about the Radicals! They are not much different then the Republicans in the US, but because they won’t sell out and become puppets to the US, Germany they are viewed in the West as some kind of demonic entity that needs to be stopped at all costs. This type of “demonizing” is counterproductive, immature, and at its worse perverse. Unfortunately, this manipulation of the reality is prevalent in the West especially in the US where Americans are too concerned about consuming themselves to death rather then sifting through government, media propaganda. The Radicals are “evil” because they believe that Serbia should be an independent, sovereign, territorially intact nation that serves the will of the Serbian people within their borders. This idea is too “Radical” for the land grabbing Albanians and their Western supporters.

KS
The bombing of Serbia had nothing to do with albans. They were the Balkan "WMDs".

CBC showed how Canadian Soldiers were captured and tied against the pole by serb KLXSunits of Mladic during Bosnia Conflict.

:))Radicals, good way to reach the so called 'intended' compromise. I think, i havent seen any comment that does not include some naivity. Land grabbing Albanians!? What does this mean!? I myself, poses a plot of land, about 200 friends i know also have land. None of them, neither did i grabbed it from someone. But me and my friends want to govern our land and so we want to delegate our powers to somone we trust. Someone that can save my house, not burn it like Serbs did it once, someone that provides law and order within democratic means, and not beat me. Hence, thanks a lot for Serbs' 'good services'. I dont want them, i want to govern it my self for very functional reasons. If you want your political 'churches' you are free to prey, pull the down, build another 100. But never ever say land grabbing albanians. Normally i should send you to court, off course i cant. But shame on you for having offerended and and labelled me for a crime which i never committed.

KS
The bombing of Serbia had nothing to do with albans. They were the Balkan "WMDs".
(Cvele, 28. August 2007 00:15)

You should run for president.

Is this an Albanian Agim Ceku? Then he is the one who lead the unit in Medak pocket, when several Canadian soldiers were wounded, trying to protect that Serbian village from massacre. Then Serbian government should send secret police to Vienna, one like the Israeli government sent to Buenos Aires, and arrested dr. Mandel and send him to Jerusalem where he was prosecuted. This is what Serbian security forces should do with this criminal. Or it may be better. Canada should ask Austrian Government to arrest him and extradite to Ottawa for criminal prosecution. We wounded Canadian solders are heaving long time waiting for the justice to be properly applied on this bandit.

Question: Who are this people who are willing to negotiate with this criminal, and what?

KS
The bombing of Serbia had nothing to do with albans. They were the Balkan "WMDs".
(Cvele, 28. August 2007 00:15)

You should run for president.
(KS, 28. August 2007 05:52)

Only if you promise I have your vote.

I will vote for you if you run in Kosova for the post of president.

“Katy, you need to wake up. Since you don't know anything besides what you read on sebrianna.com i will inform you. Ceku gave cordinates to nato to strategically bomb targets. Ceku also faught alongside with the Croatians to liberate that country”.
(KS, 27. August 2007 23:42)

KS,
Ceku should be doing 20 to life in the Hague! Have you ever heard of Medak Pocket in Croatia? This is what your illustrious hero (Ceku) did. Don’t insult our intelligence! Read the facts before you make grotesque comments. The quote below is from the Jewish world review.

Marko

” It was here that the men of the 2nd Battalion of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry came face to face with the savagery of which [Agim] Ceku was capable. Over 200 Serbian inhabitants of the Medak Pocket were slaughtered in a grotesque manner (the bodies of female rape victims were found after being burned alive). Our traumatized troops who buried the grisly remains were encouraged to collect evidence and were assured that the perpetrators would be brought to justice
Nevertheless in 1995, Ceku, by then trained by U.S. instructors as a general of artillery, was still at large. In fact, he was the officer responsible for shelling the Serbian refugee columns and for targeting the UN-declared "safe" city of Knin during the Croatian offensive known as Operation Storm [which the New York Times called "the largest single 'ethnic cleansing' of the war"]. Some 500 innocent civilians perished in those merciless barrages, and senior Canadian officers who witnessed the slaughter demanded that Ceku be indicted. Once again, their pleas fell of deaf ears.

Today Ceku is the Prime Minister of Kosovo, and he enjoyed a warm reception from Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice when the two met over the summer to discuss how best to speed along independence for the Serbian province that this war criminal governs, sans rule of law and beholden to al Qaeda.

"Throughout the air campaign against Yugoslavia," continues Taylor, Ceku — by then commanding KLA terrorists in driving two-thirds of the remaining Christian Serbs out, along with the gypsies, Croats, Jews, Ashkalis, Gorani, and other non-Muslim or non-Albanians in Kosovo — "was portrayed as a loyal ally and he was frequently present at NATO briefings with top generals such as Wesley Clark and Michael Jackson."

Today, the "bin Laden Mosque," built in 2001 (aptly enough), stands tall in Kosovo, where Bill Clinton murals and Wesley Clark Streets are almost as prevalent as bin Laden keychains”.
http://jewishworldreview.com/julia/gorin111006.php3