Jočić: Unilateral moves illegal and void

HAH even after EU told you there is no hope for independence on Sunday you still believe there will be one. You are so amazing. Its like a kid when it goes to the store and its parents don't buy it a toy. The kid starts crying but the parents tell it we will be back to get it. The kid becomes quiet because it believes them. But it will never get its toy. We all know there will be no independence.

I like how this guy Jocic allows himself to give instructions to big foreign countries. Apparently Serbian arrogance knows no limits. Well, well, there will be a rude awakening.

Serbian Leaders know that Kosovo will, for sure become independent or INDEPENDENT.
The only thing they want is the North Kosovo where most of the mining treasure of Kosovo lies.
Kosovar Albanians are NOT separatisrs.
Kosovo has nevr been, willingly, is or will be a part of Serbia.
You can take this to the bank.

Who the hell is Joqiq. Just read the language is using when addressing K-Albanians and serbia excpects KosovA to remain under serbian rule.
Anyway, there is a big suprise for all serb camp in very short time. Everybody will wake up and ops there it is,suchas: All foreighn offices that are called at this time Liaisomn offcies turning into Embassy.Just like Joe said :"Rude awakening".

Looks like we forgot what happened at 1999!Go ahead ,tough guy,instruct the "bigs" what to do!
As for Russia, they don't care about our future.Their goal in long term is to make another "palestine" inside Europe and EU,as a gift for europians.Are you people ready for it???

Guys, calm down. You act as if Jocic is making outlandish statements that no one agrees with. First tof all, no one except apparently Team Kosova on this site seems to be in favor of anything smacking of "unilateralism". And second, I seem to recall Ceku and the rest of the gang are making equally stupid claims that all of Kosovo will be under their control, including the north. They don't even own a state yet and they are already criticizing the Serbian government for interference. Would any of you, yes, even you Joe, be willing to support any secession movement in your own state by another ethnic group? These statements are what any statesman would say in these situations. Think next time before you hit the "Send" button.

it is of utmost importance the international community sends a clear message to Albanian separatists the unilateral proclamation of independence is an illegal and void act.”
It is shocking to hear this type off language from a Serb official.
After the ridiculous claim against NATO and the democratic West, it seems that the Serb government want to start a war of world with the Kosovo people.. I think the Albanian's should stay far away from this type off provocation.. They need to show that there are better diplomats and much better in communication..
Or is it just desperation from the Serb official?

Addressing the 90% comments coming from team Kosova:

Either you can't read or choose to interpret statements from what they really are.

Half of you seem to think Jočić is threating someone with force..??!?!? whaaa....

and the other have think he is "telling" the world what to do.

well either one which ever you like more is about worth as much as your "2 cents" here on this site.

If Albanians declare independence which I hope they do, they lose everything. EU/UN/NATO support all of it and get to sit in a corner sobbing.

The US is acting very stupidly and as the Albanians suggest they will have a surprise but the question is for who.

They are at a cross road with two options, both of which are regrettable for them.

talk about rude awaking, here we have a group of Albanians on a Serbian news website wasting there time parading as if they know something.. (??) ... when really this is just a desperate attempt to bug the heck out of any group of Serbs

Cvele nobody gives you independence on a silver plater. Independence is claimed, and taken.

Joe,

with all due respect, but you´re either trying to be ironic, or you just have no clue...

do you really, seriously interprete Mr.Jocić´s words as desperation?

then you are completely off the way, I guess.
you can decieve yourself by withwashing every single sentence in that article..but, remember, within the UNSC, the highest international body, you just LOST...
that means the US have given up to force "independence" in the only legal body that counts...
every other "solution" will be only provisional... don´t worry about that, and the Serbs will come back.
of course you will now start boasting "never ever" and "we will fight till death" and other macho-phrases that let you look like little teenagers...

but after all, you will realize that you won´t have what YOU desperately dream of...

let´s not mix things up, let´s stick to reality!

I like him too.He is the real rooster of the town!

Alban,

You are right. It is desperation on the Serbian side. They started a desperate war of words with the US, NATO and the whole West. This will definitely not save them. Thank God.

We have had alot of rude awakenings lately. There will be others to follow. Boast all you want let guess there is going to be another party in Pristina in December?

(Dino, 27. August 2007 06:27)

Let’s say for example there is compromise and Kosovo stays within Serbia. I’d say as a minimum, in order to achieve compromise Serbia would have to:

Q - allow Kosovo to rule themselves; i.e. not run by any parliament in Belgrade.

A - Serbia has made that offer.

Q -Serbia would have to pay some sort of reparations to the new Kosovo government.

A - As soon as Serbia receives reparation for the illegal bombing by NATO and the destruction caused by the KLA.

Q -admit publicly and offer an official apology to Kosovo for military intervention and atrocities in Kosovo.

A - Serbian politicians have already apologised for atrocities committed in the name of Serbs. Kosovo Albanian politicians are yet to admit they committed atrocities, let alone apologise.

Q - Now, if Serbs think that compromise only means Kosovo stays within Serbia in exchange for a little governance, than they are very naive.

A - Serbia’s offer, before the negotiations even begin includes full autonomy plus some elements of sovereignty. This is much more that ‘a little governance’.

Q - Serbia will still have to pay a high price politically in order the Kosovo question to be solved.

A - Serbia has already paid a high price.

Q - Admitting errors/mistakes and accepting responsibility has been a problem for Belgrade, would they do it to keep Kosovo?

A - Serbia is offering over and above what has been offered to others, including the Basques, who unlike Albanians, do not even have a country.

The Kosovo Albanian political leadership needs to start negotiating realistically, maybe by asking the questions you have asked.

"- allow kosovo to rule themselves. ie. not run by any parliament in belgrade

-serbia would have to pay some sort of reparations to the new kosovo government

-admit publically and offer an official apology to kosovo for military intervention and attrocities in Kosovo."


Dino,

I think something like this will take place, after the K-albanians realize that there is no breach of international law possible.
the American Policy is based on creating chaos, just like in the middle east, in order to have the pre-condtition to stay in europe... so you will have to start to use your brain and think it over how much longer you want to be fooled by them.

by the way, it will be the EU that will pay the certainly very large ammount of money for the economical developement of the serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija,...it will be sold to you as "reparations" in order to caress your souls... and internally it will be "development subsidies"...
so, both K-albanians and Serbs shouldn´t fool themselves, they will both end up in the EU... it´s only a question of time, and when they will emancipate themselves from the USA resp. Russia.

I know that B92 didn't and will not public my comment but for me and most of the world is not surprising because they are run by the Serbs as well, and they don't want to public the fact that Russia is creating the vorst precedent in the world by justifying the massacres and with territorial integrity and soverentiy of Serbia which means that Russia told all the worlds criminals and dictators that yes you kill and massacre and we will protect your soverenity and territorial integrity. But the good thing is that there are more world powers except from Russia because other vise we would be living in the cannibal world.

God Bless Kosova, God Bless America

Lets say for example there is compromise and Kosovo stays within Serbia. Id say as a minimum, in order to achieve compromise serbia would have to:

- allow kosovo to rule themselves. ie. not run by any parliament in belgrade

-serbia would have to pay some sort of reparations to the new kosovo government

-admit publically and offer an official apology to kosovo for military intervention and attrocities in Kosovo.

Now, if serbs think that compromise only means kosovo stays within serbia in exchange for a little governance, than they are very naive. serbia will still have to pay a high price politically in order the kosovo question to be solved. Admitting errors/mistakes and accepting responsibility has been a problem for belgrade, would they do it to keep kosovo?

Mike,

This is not about supporting or not supporting a secessionist movement. The secession happened in 1999. Serbia, in fact, has no power whatsoever in Kosova. Serbia's argument is based on one thing and one thing only, a paragraph in 1244 stating FRJ (Serbia's) sovereignty over Kosova.

This whole thing is about legalizing the secession and not enabling it.

What Serbia needs to realize is that Kosova is already a separate functioning entity with no factual links to Serbia whatsoever.

The Kosova Albanians are not fighting to separate from Serbia, we are fighting to make the already existing separation internationally recognized.

Somehow, Serbia and Serbs seem to think they have a say on whether Kosova separates or not. Guys please, we separated from Serbia in 1999 and there is simply no way you can undo that separation, you can delay its international recognition, but that is just about all you CAN do.

Rade Serbia has not made that offer because:

1. Serbia wants to be in charge of the foreign policy in case Kosova/o stays within Serbia. That is unacceptable to Albanians since we hear everyday statements from Serb government officials and ministers, starting with Kostunica, calling Albanians terrorists, islamo-fascists, criminals, thieves etc etc.
We as Albanians cannot have a Serbian foreign minister trumpeting around the world what the Serb government is stating now and accepting that as our common foreign policy. It is detrimental to Albanians and simply not acceptable.

2. Serbia wants its own security forces to control administrative borders. Again we as Albanians cannot allow those very same forces who killed our children, grandparents, sisters, and torched our homes be in charge of our own security.

3. Serbia wants to be in charge of the army. We cannot and do not trust the army to be in the hands of the Serbs. The same army which carried out the expulsion of 1 million Albanians from their homes, and the murder of thousands of them.

4. Serbia denied the Kosova/o Albanians the right to vote for the constitution. They eliminated them from the voting lists. Now this constitution is used as a defensive mechanism for the Kosova/o issue by the Serbs when at the same time 90% of the population of Kosova/o had no say in it whatsoever. It is unacceptable to Albanians for others to make decisions about us while we have no say and no representation whatsoever in these decisions.
All of this happened under the eyes of the international community. One can only imagine what will happen when the international community is not focused on Kosova/o anymore.

5. Serbia has not stated or made it clear how the future government in Serbia would look. In their proposal they do not state or regulate how Albanians would be represented in the Serbian government. They do not state or regulate if Albanians will be represented in the parliament, the government, and the judicial branch of the Serbian state. This is an indication and clearly shows that the Serbian government is not interested in integrating the Albanians in the Serbian political and social life.
It is unacceptable for Albanians to be part of such a state.

6. The Serbian President and Prime minister have never apologized publicly to the Albanians in Kosova/o for the crimes they committed against them. It is unacceptable for us Albanians to live within a state that sees no guilt in killing a slaughtering people of a different ethnicity, namely Albanian.

7. After the war we cannot act as if nothing has happened and go back and live under the same conditions we were living before the war. That is a ridiculous thing to ask since the Serbian plan amounts just to that. Even the status quo is better than what the Serbian government is offering.

8. The majority of the votes in Serbia where won by a party whose leader made a detailed plan of ethnically cleansing the Albanians from Kosova/o. This leader is admired and by the party and a great number of citizens. This shows that the a huge portion of the Serbian population backs up a party which advocates the eradication of the Albanians from Kosova/o. We as Albanians find it unacceptable to live under the same state in which the almost half of the population advocates our eradication from Kosova/o. We cannot live in such a state where our very own existence is put into question.

9. We cannot live within the same state which protects and aids War Criminals from evading justice.

I can go on and on about why Serbia's offer holds no water.

Cvele nobody gives you independence on a silver plater. Independence is claimed, and taken.
(johny, 26. August 2007 19:13)

FINALLY admits being a thief!

Rade, ruling themselves means more than just being able to rule economically. It means militarily and politically. The system will have to be decentralised with no link between Kosovo government and Serbia government. Do u really think due to recent history Kosovars will allow some Serbian politicians who has never been to Kosovo to decide what happens in Kosovo, or heaven forbid, do u think Kosovars will allow a Serbian army there? for you to say that Serbia has made a self-governance offer to Kosovo is skewed because had they made total self-governance offer, they wouldn’t be involved in this whole process because it in that case, it would have nothing to do with them. What does full autonomy mean to u? Anything short of total political, economical and military control is not full autonomy. If Serbia has given this up, then why is it resisting independence given that Kosovo will essentially become THAT. I don’t think Serbs have offered anything. At best they have offered autonomy to Kosovo equal to a local council. Military presence will never be allowed. Political presence will never be allowed and economic decisions will never be allowed. Whether it goes through UN or not is irrelevant because UN will not force Kosovo to hand themselves back to Serbia. International law also allows for common sense.
Basque region in spain did not have Spanish army trying to wipe them out because of some sentimental reason merely less than a decade ago.
“As soon as Serbia receives reparation for the illegal bombing by NATO and the destruction caused by the KLA.” First point, does everyone have to do everything first before Serbia does anything. Its clear most damage is done and initiated by Serbia so its clear that any reparations have to start there. How about releasing documents u r hiding? NATO bombing you need to talk to NATO. KLA…I don’t remember KLA marching into Serbia, do u? In any case, had all this that u ask actually been done, would you really expect serb government to admit to anything? Would they release the hidden documents? Doubt it
One or two Serbian politicians admitting things is hardly enough. Serbian people voting in the Radicals is a clear indication of how Serbian people feel about any apology. Have Radicals admitted to anything? A war criminal who said Croats were catholic serbs and who advertised Greater Serbia is the head of that party. That says a lot. In any case, an apology has to come from Kostunica and the government. Tadic has no power. That’s the system.
UN is becoming less valid because it doesn’t represent political situation of the world. Russian economy is minor while powerful economies like Japanese and German have no say. That’s why NATO is becoming much more relevant and will eventually replace UN. Relationship between it and Russia will be at NATO-Russia level or in case of China, NATO-China level. Serbia will either align itself with NATO or Russia, Iran, Syria etc. Chinese will stay neutral as its political suicide choose.

"Cvele nobody gives you independence on a silver plater. Independence is claimed, and taken.
(johny, 26. August 2007 19:13)

FINALLY admits being a thief!
(GSP, 28. August 2007 01:38)"

This has nothing to do with being a thief. If I were to follow your logic, Serbia, Greece, Albania etc etc. would still be under Ottoman rule since they claimed their independence.
The US would still be under British rule since they claimed their independence.

I like how this guy Jocic allows himself to give instructions to big foreign countries. Apparently Serbian arrogance knows no limits. Well, well, there will be a rude awakening.

Who the hell is Joqiq. Just read the language is using when addressing K-Albanians and serbia excpects KosovA to remain under serbian rule.
Anyway, there is a big suprise for all serb camp in very short time. Everybody will wake up and ops there it is,suchas: All foreighn offices that are called at this time Liaisomn offcies turning into Embassy.Just like Joe said :"Rude awakening".

Serbian Leaders know that Kosovo will, for sure become independent or INDEPENDENT.
The only thing they want is the North Kosovo where most of the mining treasure of Kosovo lies.
Kosovar Albanians are NOT separatisrs.
Kosovo has nevr been, willingly, is or will be a part of Serbia.
You can take this to the bank.

Cvele nobody gives you independence on a silver plater. Independence is claimed, and taken.

Alban,

You are right. It is desperation on the Serbian side. They started a desperate war of words with the US, NATO and the whole West. This will definitely not save them. Thank God.

Looks like we forgot what happened at 1999!Go ahead ,tough guy,instruct the "bigs" what to do!
As for Russia, they don't care about our future.Their goal in long term is to make another "palestine" inside Europe and EU,as a gift for europians.Are you people ready for it???

I like him too.He is the real rooster of the town!

it is of utmost importance the international community sends a clear message to Albanian separatists the unilateral proclamation of independence is an illegal and void act.”
It is shocking to hear this type off language from a Serb official.
After the ridiculous claim against NATO and the democratic West, it seems that the Serb government want to start a war of world with the Kosovo people.. I think the Albanian's should stay far away from this type off provocation.. They need to show that there are better diplomats and much better in communication..
Or is it just desperation from the Serb official?

I know that B92 didn't and will not public my comment but for me and most of the world is not surprising because they are run by the Serbs as well, and they don't want to public the fact that Russia is creating the vorst precedent in the world by justifying the massacres and with territorial integrity and soverentiy of Serbia which means that Russia told all the worlds criminals and dictators that yes you kill and massacre and we will protect your soverenity and territorial integrity. But the good thing is that there are more world powers except from Russia because other vise we would be living in the cannibal world.

God Bless Kosova, God Bless America

Rade Serbia has not made that offer because:

1. Serbia wants to be in charge of the foreign policy in case Kosova/o stays within Serbia. That is unacceptable to Albanians since we hear everyday statements from Serb government officials and ministers, starting with Kostunica, calling Albanians terrorists, islamo-fascists, criminals, thieves etc etc.
We as Albanians cannot have a Serbian foreign minister trumpeting around the world what the Serb government is stating now and accepting that as our common foreign policy. It is detrimental to Albanians and simply not acceptable.

2. Serbia wants its own security forces to control administrative borders. Again we as Albanians cannot allow those very same forces who killed our children, grandparents, sisters, and torched our homes be in charge of our own security.

3. Serbia wants to be in charge of the army. We cannot and do not trust the army to be in the hands of the Serbs. The same army which carried out the expulsion of 1 million Albanians from their homes, and the murder of thousands of them.

4. Serbia denied the Kosova/o Albanians the right to vote for the constitution. They eliminated them from the voting lists. Now this constitution is used as a defensive mechanism for the Kosova/o issue by the Serbs when at the same time 90% of the population of Kosova/o had no say in it whatsoever. It is unacceptable to Albanians for others to make decisions about us while we have no say and no representation whatsoever in these decisions.
All of this happened under the eyes of the international community. One can only imagine what will happen when the international community is not focused on Kosova/o anymore.

5. Serbia has not stated or made it clear how the future government in Serbia would look. In their proposal they do not state or regulate how Albanians would be represented in the Serbian government. They do not state or regulate if Albanians will be represented in the parliament, the government, and the judicial branch of the Serbian state. This is an indication and clearly shows that the Serbian government is not interested in integrating the Albanians in the Serbian political and social life.
It is unacceptable for Albanians to be part of such a state.

6. The Serbian President and Prime minister have never apologized publicly to the Albanians in Kosova/o for the crimes they committed against them. It is unacceptable for us Albanians to live within a state that sees no guilt in killing a slaughtering people of a different ethnicity, namely Albanian.

7. After the war we cannot act as if nothing has happened and go back and live under the same conditions we were living before the war. That is a ridiculous thing to ask since the Serbian plan amounts just to that. Even the status quo is better than what the Serbian government is offering.

8. The majority of the votes in Serbia where won by a party whose leader made a detailed plan of ethnically cleansing the Albanians from Kosova/o. This leader is admired and by the party and a great number of citizens. This shows that the a huge portion of the Serbian population backs up a party which advocates the eradication of the Albanians from Kosova/o. We as Albanians find it unacceptable to live under the same state in which the almost half of the population advocates our eradication from Kosova/o. We cannot live in such a state where our very own existence is put into question.

9. We cannot live within the same state which protects and aids War Criminals from evading justice.

I can go on and on about why Serbia's offer holds no water.

We have had alot of rude awakenings lately. There will be others to follow. Boast all you want let guess there is going to be another party in Pristina in December?

Mike,

This is not about supporting or not supporting a secessionist movement. The secession happened in 1999. Serbia, in fact, has no power whatsoever in Kosova. Serbia's argument is based on one thing and one thing only, a paragraph in 1244 stating FRJ (Serbia's) sovereignty over Kosova.

This whole thing is about legalizing the secession and not enabling it.

What Serbia needs to realize is that Kosova is already a separate functioning entity with no factual links to Serbia whatsoever.

The Kosova Albanians are not fighting to separate from Serbia, we are fighting to make the already existing separation internationally recognized.

Somehow, Serbia and Serbs seem to think they have a say on whether Kosova separates or not. Guys please, we separated from Serbia in 1999 and there is simply no way you can undo that separation, you can delay its international recognition, but that is just about all you CAN do.

HAH even after EU told you there is no hope for independence on Sunday you still believe there will be one. You are so amazing. Its like a kid when it goes to the store and its parents don't buy it a toy. The kid starts crying but the parents tell it we will be back to get it. The kid becomes quiet because it believes them. But it will never get its toy. We all know there will be no independence.

Guys, calm down. You act as if Jocic is making outlandish statements that no one agrees with. First tof all, no one except apparently Team Kosova on this site seems to be in favor of anything smacking of "unilateralism". And second, I seem to recall Ceku and the rest of the gang are making equally stupid claims that all of Kosovo will be under their control, including the north. They don't even own a state yet and they are already criticizing the Serbian government for interference. Would any of you, yes, even you Joe, be willing to support any secession movement in your own state by another ethnic group? These statements are what any statesman would say in these situations. Think next time before you hit the "Send" button.

Addressing the 90% comments coming from team Kosova:

Either you can't read or choose to interpret statements from what they really are.

Half of you seem to think Jočić is threating someone with force..??!?!? whaaa....

and the other have think he is "telling" the world what to do.

well either one which ever you like more is about worth as much as your "2 cents" here on this site.

If Albanians declare independence which I hope they do, they lose everything. EU/UN/NATO support all of it and get to sit in a corner sobbing.

The US is acting very stupidly and as the Albanians suggest they will have a surprise but the question is for who.

They are at a cross road with two options, both of which are regrettable for them.

talk about rude awaking, here we have a group of Albanians on a Serbian news website wasting there time parading as if they know something.. (??) ... when really this is just a desperate attempt to bug the heck out of any group of Serbs

Lets say for example there is compromise and Kosovo stays within Serbia. Id say as a minimum, in order to achieve compromise serbia would have to:

- allow kosovo to rule themselves. ie. not run by any parliament in belgrade

-serbia would have to pay some sort of reparations to the new kosovo government

-admit publically and offer an official apology to kosovo for military intervention and attrocities in Kosovo.

Now, if serbs think that compromise only means kosovo stays within serbia in exchange for a little governance, than they are very naive. serbia will still have to pay a high price politically in order the kosovo question to be solved. Admitting errors/mistakes and accepting responsibility has been a problem for belgrade, would they do it to keep kosovo?

Joe,

with all due respect, but you´re either trying to be ironic, or you just have no clue...

do you really, seriously interprete Mr.Jocić´s words as desperation?

then you are completely off the way, I guess.
you can decieve yourself by withwashing every single sentence in that article..but, remember, within the UNSC, the highest international body, you just LOST...
that means the US have given up to force "independence" in the only legal body that counts...
every other "solution" will be only provisional... don´t worry about that, and the Serbs will come back.
of course you will now start boasting "never ever" and "we will fight till death" and other macho-phrases that let you look like little teenagers...

but after all, you will realize that you won´t have what YOU desperately dream of...

let´s not mix things up, let´s stick to reality!

(Dino, 27. August 2007 06:27)

Let’s say for example there is compromise and Kosovo stays within Serbia. I’d say as a minimum, in order to achieve compromise Serbia would have to:

Q - allow Kosovo to rule themselves; i.e. not run by any parliament in Belgrade.

A - Serbia has made that offer.

Q -Serbia would have to pay some sort of reparations to the new Kosovo government.

A - As soon as Serbia receives reparation for the illegal bombing by NATO and the destruction caused by the KLA.

Q -admit publicly and offer an official apology to Kosovo for military intervention and atrocities in Kosovo.

A - Serbian politicians have already apologised for atrocities committed in the name of Serbs. Kosovo Albanian politicians are yet to admit they committed atrocities, let alone apologise.

Q - Now, if Serbs think that compromise only means Kosovo stays within Serbia in exchange for a little governance, than they are very naive.

A - Serbia’s offer, before the negotiations even begin includes full autonomy plus some elements of sovereignty. This is much more that ‘a little governance’.

Q - Serbia will still have to pay a high price politically in order the Kosovo question to be solved.

A - Serbia has already paid a high price.

Q - Admitting errors/mistakes and accepting responsibility has been a problem for Belgrade, would they do it to keep Kosovo?

A - Serbia is offering over and above what has been offered to others, including the Basques, who unlike Albanians, do not even have a country.

The Kosovo Albanian political leadership needs to start negotiating realistically, maybe by asking the questions you have asked.

"- allow kosovo to rule themselves. ie. not run by any parliament in belgrade

-serbia would have to pay some sort of reparations to the new kosovo government

-admit publically and offer an official apology to kosovo for military intervention and attrocities in Kosovo."


Dino,

I think something like this will take place, after the K-albanians realize that there is no breach of international law possible.
the American Policy is based on creating chaos, just like in the middle east, in order to have the pre-condtition to stay in europe... so you will have to start to use your brain and think it over how much longer you want to be fooled by them.

by the way, it will be the EU that will pay the certainly very large ammount of money for the economical developement of the serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija,...it will be sold to you as "reparations" in order to caress your souls... and internally it will be "development subsidies"...
so, both K-albanians and Serbs shouldn´t fool themselves, they will both end up in the EU... it´s only a question of time, and when they will emancipate themselves from the USA resp. Russia.

Cvele nobody gives you independence on a silver plater. Independence is claimed, and taken.
(johny, 26. August 2007 19:13)

FINALLY admits being a thief!

Rade, ruling themselves means more than just being able to rule economically. It means militarily and politically. The system will have to be decentralised with no link between Kosovo government and Serbia government. Do u really think due to recent history Kosovars will allow some Serbian politicians who has never been to Kosovo to decide what happens in Kosovo, or heaven forbid, do u think Kosovars will allow a Serbian army there? for you to say that Serbia has made a self-governance offer to Kosovo is skewed because had they made total self-governance offer, they wouldn’t be involved in this whole process because it in that case, it would have nothing to do with them. What does full autonomy mean to u? Anything short of total political, economical and military control is not full autonomy. If Serbia has given this up, then why is it resisting independence given that Kosovo will essentially become THAT. I don’t think Serbs have offered anything. At best they have offered autonomy to Kosovo equal to a local council. Military presence will never be allowed. Political presence will never be allowed and economic decisions will never be allowed. Whether it goes through UN or not is irrelevant because UN will not force Kosovo to hand themselves back to Serbia. International law also allows for common sense.
Basque region in spain did not have Spanish army trying to wipe them out because of some sentimental reason merely less than a decade ago.
“As soon as Serbia receives reparation for the illegal bombing by NATO and the destruction caused by the KLA.” First point, does everyone have to do everything first before Serbia does anything. Its clear most damage is done and initiated by Serbia so its clear that any reparations have to start there. How about releasing documents u r hiding? NATO bombing you need to talk to NATO. KLA…I don’t remember KLA marching into Serbia, do u? In any case, had all this that u ask actually been done, would you really expect serb government to admit to anything? Would they release the hidden documents? Doubt it
One or two Serbian politicians admitting things is hardly enough. Serbian people voting in the Radicals is a clear indication of how Serbian people feel about any apology. Have Radicals admitted to anything? A war criminal who said Croats were catholic serbs and who advertised Greater Serbia is the head of that party. That says a lot. In any case, an apology has to come from Kostunica and the government. Tadic has no power. That’s the system.
UN is becoming less valid because it doesn’t represent political situation of the world. Russian economy is minor while powerful economies like Japanese and German have no say. That’s why NATO is becoming much more relevant and will eventually replace UN. Relationship between it and Russia will be at NATO-Russia level or in case of China, NATO-China level. Serbia will either align itself with NATO or Russia, Iran, Syria etc. Chinese will stay neutral as its political suicide choose.

"Cvele nobody gives you independence on a silver plater. Independence is claimed, and taken.
(johny, 26. August 2007 19:13)

FINALLY admits being a thief!
(GSP, 28. August 2007 01:38)"

This has nothing to do with being a thief. If I were to follow your logic, Serbia, Greece, Albania etc etc. would still be under Ottoman rule since they claimed their independence.
The US would still be under British rule since they claimed their independence.