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Saturday, 25.08.2007.

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"Karadžić family assets must be frozen"

Assets and bank accounts of Radovan Karadžić’s family will have to be frozen as soon as possible, Raffi Gregorian says.

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roberto

pre 16 godina

yes, FINally someone w a bit of a backbone is doing what should have been done in 1995, at the latest! just this month i interiewed one of the lawyers involved in the US karadzic torte (civil) case -- it was actually a double case-- and we were discussing the exact problem of trying to freeze and attach assets in order to execute such legal judgments. (hopefully i'm using the correct legal lingo.) a good frnd of ours is a conc camp survivor (omarska) -- both he and his wife were there and went thru hell -- and from the court judgment, he and others are owed millions by karadzic. this could be the start of that long-awaited process! what karadzic owes the world is a whole other story, and i am still awaiting his arrest and transfer to the hague; maybe now the necessary political will is coming to bear... for anyone interested, email me at robertoruss@yahoo.com and i'll send a copy of the interview -- my small contribution to the so-called reconciliation process.

and thank you, b92, for printing this. i just wish my contributions weren't so late in the day, due to our california, west-coast time frame.

xxx robert-0
san francisco

mervin

pre 16 godina

Why not also freeze the assets of the Saudi funded SDA, Izetbegovic family who have amassed a fortune from the war years despite being less than middle class in origin. It makes me ashamed of the International community when the richest people in FBIH are the political class who have no means of showing how their wealth was created.

ahmet isufi

pre 16 godina

Again and again you are killing the victims for the second time and all living victims you are raping them over and over again with your coments. It makes my blood boil when I read your coments. I hope b92 will be fair enough and not as usual and to post my coment in entirety since they have been posting coments from likes if ida and peter that are in denial that anything has happened bad during the balkan wars from 1990-1999.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«They haven't proved any rapes - it is all propaganda. »

Ida, when I read you, I read the usual rhetoric of Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Muslims. Both parties are rejecting the crimes and atrocities committed during the war. Both parties are in complete denial of what was done: rape, torture, killing, etc.

This is the best way to prolong the hatred and injustice.

lollee

pre 16 godina

I have to laugh at your US comments..Have you ever heard of the IRS..they don't care if you are a spouse or not..they take everything. The freezing of assets is a common practice in the US, haven't you ever heard of the repo man? I agree with Jasa..so much has been stolen from the Serbs pre-communist era.

Ratko

pre 16 godina

The british have a disease for occupying other countries. Please just leave us alone and go back to your england. Who is he to tell someone what to do?

Jasa

pre 16 godina

Why not freeze his assets? Its people like this that make our beautiful country seem so ugly. I am sure that that he somehow scammed this estate and money from innocent victims of Serbia’s past. My family was very land rich pre communist era. That same land is being gobbled up by ex communist criminals as we speak.

ida

pre 16 godina

One should counter asking for complete medical evidence and DNA testing to prove any rapes.

They haven't proved any rapes - it is all propaganda. The Serbian women filed detailed rape reports to the UN before the Bosnian Muslims and the Bosnian Muslims only copied them.

Serbia should file lawsuits againts the Bosnian Muslims for false accusations unless they can prove otherwise.

These people ought to be force to bring all alleged rape baby/children for DNA tests for them the women and all accused men.

Additionally the boyfriends and husbands of the Bosnian Muslim women should be tested.

If these tests come up empty the women should be sued for false propaganda.

They don't have any rape baby of Karadzic. If there was one DNA evidence would have been easily attained.

Milos,RSA

pre 16 godina

Justice and democracy?
As far as I’m aware of, in USA laws, one is innocent until proven guilty, and spouses, together with children, are not required to testify against members of their family. Fact that none of them pointed their finger at R.Karadzic’s location(for whatever reason), is not reason enough to confiscate property(in which they live)and to leave them on the street. That would be harassing which probably wouldn’t be tolerated in EU or USA. At he same time I’m not claiming that R.K is innocent on all accusations, although I have doubts that someone of his position, had time to organize sex-excursions during military operations. Maybe someone lower on the ladder.
No one “knows” that R.K. is responsible for organizing such a thing, until it is proven. If Mr Rafi claims “to know” (...it all?), why then he doesn’t arrest him on the (of course)”known” location, and leave his family alone? I’m sure that he has constant surveillance on mentioned property, and therefore “knows”, that R.K. haven’t visited home for years. On the other hand, if Mr. Rafi “knows” that family is actively helping R.K, why he didn’t produce proof of it and arrested them all?
Bosnian authorities should have Serbian representatives too, who wouldn’t agree with terrorizing (!) of women and children. I’m not confident in possibility of blocking instruments Mr. Rafi mentions, unless they are ordered by humane and democratic high representatives in Bosnia.
Ruling in USA, and instructions of USA, to pay victims in Bosnia, should not possible mean that property of accused family be stolen and given away, before court ruling. If payment is “instructed” to happen, by USA decision, why Mr. Rafi, personally (!) does not go to the USA and EU and take photos, together with notes of property value of Clinton, Bush, Albright, Solana, and of course his own too…And then instructs that payment be made to all victims of war in ex YU, Iraq, Afghanistan and wherever western powers, with NATO as a tool, brought democracy and prosperity.
Hypocrisy of unbelievable proportions!

Peter

pre 16 godina

Joe's assests must be frozen too untill he proves that he is innocent,cause i suspect he is rapist and pedophile.How about that ?

Milos,RSA

pre 16 godina

Justice and democracy?
As far as I’m aware of, in USA laws, one is innocent until proven guilty, and spouses, together with children, are not required to testify against members of their family. Fact that none of them pointed their finger at R.Karadzic’s location(for whatever reason), is not reason enough to confiscate property(in which they live)and to leave them on the street. That would be harassing which probably wouldn’t be tolerated in EU or USA. At he same time I’m not claiming that R.K is innocent on all accusations, although I have doubts that someone of his position, had time to organize sex-excursions during military operations. Maybe someone lower on the ladder.
No one “knows” that R.K. is responsible for organizing such a thing, until it is proven. If Mr Rafi claims “to know” (...it all?), why then he doesn’t arrest him on the (of course)”known” location, and leave his family alone? I’m sure that he has constant surveillance on mentioned property, and therefore “knows”, that R.K. haven’t visited home for years. On the other hand, if Mr. Rafi “knows” that family is actively helping R.K, why he didn’t produce proof of it and arrested them all?
Bosnian authorities should have Serbian representatives too, who wouldn’t agree with terrorizing (!) of women and children. I’m not confident in possibility of blocking instruments Mr. Rafi mentions, unless they are ordered by humane and democratic high representatives in Bosnia.
Ruling in USA, and instructions of USA, to pay victims in Bosnia, should not possible mean that property of accused family be stolen and given away, before court ruling. If payment is “instructed” to happen, by USA decision, why Mr. Rafi, personally (!) does not go to the USA and EU and take photos, together with notes of property value of Clinton, Bush, Albright, Solana, and of course his own too…And then instructs that payment be made to all victims of war in ex YU, Iraq, Afghanistan and wherever western powers, with NATO as a tool, brought democracy and prosperity.
Hypocrisy of unbelievable proportions!

ida

pre 16 godina

One should counter asking for complete medical evidence and DNA testing to prove any rapes.

They haven't proved any rapes - it is all propaganda. The Serbian women filed detailed rape reports to the UN before the Bosnian Muslims and the Bosnian Muslims only copied them.

Serbia should file lawsuits againts the Bosnian Muslims for false accusations unless they can prove otherwise.

These people ought to be force to bring all alleged rape baby/children for DNA tests for them the women and all accused men.

Additionally the boyfriends and husbands of the Bosnian Muslim women should be tested.

If these tests come up empty the women should be sued for false propaganda.

They don't have any rape baby of Karadzic. If there was one DNA evidence would have been easily attained.

Peter

pre 16 godina

Joe's assests must be frozen too untill he proves that he is innocent,cause i suspect he is rapist and pedophile.How about that ?

Jasa

pre 16 godina

Why not freeze his assets? Its people like this that make our beautiful country seem so ugly. I am sure that that he somehow scammed this estate and money from innocent victims of Serbia’s past. My family was very land rich pre communist era. That same land is being gobbled up by ex communist criminals as we speak.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«They haven't proved any rapes - it is all propaganda. »

Ida, when I read you, I read the usual rhetoric of Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Muslims. Both parties are rejecting the crimes and atrocities committed during the war. Both parties are in complete denial of what was done: rape, torture, killing, etc.

This is the best way to prolong the hatred and injustice.

Ratko

pre 16 godina

The british have a disease for occupying other countries. Please just leave us alone and go back to your england. Who is he to tell someone what to do?

ahmet isufi

pre 16 godina

Again and again you are killing the victims for the second time and all living victims you are raping them over and over again with your coments. It makes my blood boil when I read your coments. I hope b92 will be fair enough and not as usual and to post my coment in entirety since they have been posting coments from likes if ida and peter that are in denial that anything has happened bad during the balkan wars from 1990-1999.

mervin

pre 16 godina

Why not also freeze the assets of the Saudi funded SDA, Izetbegovic family who have amassed a fortune from the war years despite being less than middle class in origin. It makes me ashamed of the International community when the richest people in FBIH are the political class who have no means of showing how their wealth was created.

lollee

pre 16 godina

I have to laugh at your US comments..Have you ever heard of the IRS..they don't care if you are a spouse or not..they take everything. The freezing of assets is a common practice in the US, haven't you ever heard of the repo man? I agree with Jasa..so much has been stolen from the Serbs pre-communist era.

roberto

pre 16 godina

yes, FINally someone w a bit of a backbone is doing what should have been done in 1995, at the latest! just this month i interiewed one of the lawyers involved in the US karadzic torte (civil) case -- it was actually a double case-- and we were discussing the exact problem of trying to freeze and attach assets in order to execute such legal judgments. (hopefully i'm using the correct legal lingo.) a good frnd of ours is a conc camp survivor (omarska) -- both he and his wife were there and went thru hell -- and from the court judgment, he and others are owed millions by karadzic. this could be the start of that long-awaited process! what karadzic owes the world is a whole other story, and i am still awaiting his arrest and transfer to the hague; maybe now the necessary political will is coming to bear... for anyone interested, email me at robertoruss@yahoo.com and i'll send a copy of the interview -- my small contribution to the so-called reconciliation process.

and thank you, b92, for printing this. i just wish my contributions weren't so late in the day, due to our california, west-coast time frame.

xxx robert-0
san francisco

Peter

pre 16 godina

Joe's assests must be frozen too untill he proves that he is innocent,cause i suspect he is rapist and pedophile.How about that ?

ida

pre 16 godina

One should counter asking for complete medical evidence and DNA testing to prove any rapes.

They haven't proved any rapes - it is all propaganda. The Serbian women filed detailed rape reports to the UN before the Bosnian Muslims and the Bosnian Muslims only copied them.

Serbia should file lawsuits againts the Bosnian Muslims for false accusations unless they can prove otherwise.

These people ought to be force to bring all alleged rape baby/children for DNA tests for them the women and all accused men.

Additionally the boyfriends and husbands of the Bosnian Muslim women should be tested.

If these tests come up empty the women should be sued for false propaganda.

They don't have any rape baby of Karadzic. If there was one DNA evidence would have been easily attained.

Milos,RSA

pre 16 godina

Justice and democracy?
As far as I’m aware of, in USA laws, one is innocent until proven guilty, and spouses, together with children, are not required to testify against members of their family. Fact that none of them pointed their finger at R.Karadzic’s location(for whatever reason), is not reason enough to confiscate property(in which they live)and to leave them on the street. That would be harassing which probably wouldn’t be tolerated in EU or USA. At he same time I’m not claiming that R.K is innocent on all accusations, although I have doubts that someone of his position, had time to organize sex-excursions during military operations. Maybe someone lower on the ladder.
No one “knows” that R.K. is responsible for organizing such a thing, until it is proven. If Mr Rafi claims “to know” (...it all?), why then he doesn’t arrest him on the (of course)”known” location, and leave his family alone? I’m sure that he has constant surveillance on mentioned property, and therefore “knows”, that R.K. haven’t visited home for years. On the other hand, if Mr. Rafi “knows” that family is actively helping R.K, why he didn’t produce proof of it and arrested them all?
Bosnian authorities should have Serbian representatives too, who wouldn’t agree with terrorizing (!) of women and children. I’m not confident in possibility of blocking instruments Mr. Rafi mentions, unless they are ordered by humane and democratic high representatives in Bosnia.
Ruling in USA, and instructions of USA, to pay victims in Bosnia, should not possible mean that property of accused family be stolen and given away, before court ruling. If payment is “instructed” to happen, by USA decision, why Mr. Rafi, personally (!) does not go to the USA and EU and take photos, together with notes of property value of Clinton, Bush, Albright, Solana, and of course his own too…And then instructs that payment be made to all victims of war in ex YU, Iraq, Afghanistan and wherever western powers, with NATO as a tool, brought democracy and prosperity.
Hypocrisy of unbelievable proportions!

Jasa

pre 16 godina

Why not freeze his assets? Its people like this that make our beautiful country seem so ugly. I am sure that that he somehow scammed this estate and money from innocent victims of Serbia’s past. My family was very land rich pre communist era. That same land is being gobbled up by ex communist criminals as we speak.

Ratko

pre 16 godina

The british have a disease for occupying other countries. Please just leave us alone and go back to your england. Who is he to tell someone what to do?

lollee

pre 16 godina

I have to laugh at your US comments..Have you ever heard of the IRS..they don't care if you are a spouse or not..they take everything. The freezing of assets is a common practice in the US, haven't you ever heard of the repo man? I agree with Jasa..so much has been stolen from the Serbs pre-communist era.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«They haven't proved any rapes - it is all propaganda. »

Ida, when I read you, I read the usual rhetoric of Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Muslims. Both parties are rejecting the crimes and atrocities committed during the war. Both parties are in complete denial of what was done: rape, torture, killing, etc.

This is the best way to prolong the hatred and injustice.

ahmet isufi

pre 16 godina

Again and again you are killing the victims for the second time and all living victims you are raping them over and over again with your coments. It makes my blood boil when I read your coments. I hope b92 will be fair enough and not as usual and to post my coment in entirety since they have been posting coments from likes if ida and peter that are in denial that anything has happened bad during the balkan wars from 1990-1999.

mervin

pre 16 godina

Why not also freeze the assets of the Saudi funded SDA, Izetbegovic family who have amassed a fortune from the war years despite being less than middle class in origin. It makes me ashamed of the International community when the richest people in FBIH are the political class who have no means of showing how their wealth was created.

roberto

pre 16 godina

yes, FINally someone w a bit of a backbone is doing what should have been done in 1995, at the latest! just this month i interiewed one of the lawyers involved in the US karadzic torte (civil) case -- it was actually a double case-- and we were discussing the exact problem of trying to freeze and attach assets in order to execute such legal judgments. (hopefully i'm using the correct legal lingo.) a good frnd of ours is a conc camp survivor (omarska) -- both he and his wife were there and went thru hell -- and from the court judgment, he and others are owed millions by karadzic. this could be the start of that long-awaited process! what karadzic owes the world is a whole other story, and i am still awaiting his arrest and transfer to the hague; maybe now the necessary political will is coming to bear... for anyone interested, email me at robertoruss@yahoo.com and i'll send a copy of the interview -- my small contribution to the so-called reconciliation process.

and thank you, b92, for printing this. i just wish my contributions weren't so late in the day, due to our california, west-coast time frame.

xxx robert-0
san francisco