Priština says return of Serbian troops "unacceptable"

Lazer Im glad u think that WEST will start bombing Serbia. Because it will never happen. Even if Serbs right now entered with their troops NATO would do nothing. More importantly you would do nothing. As soon as unilateral independence is declared Serbs will send in their troops. Possibly Russians will as well and the Greeks. Thanks to the security agreement signed in the first part of 2006. NATO will not stop them since the only legal document will still be resolution 1244.

"Commenting on Prime Minister Koštunica adviser Aleksandar Simić’s statement that the Serbian troops should be sent back to the southern province, spokeswoman for the Kosovo government, Ulpiana Lama, said Saturday such a request was "absurd", adding that Serbs in the province were "in no danger whatsoever."

- so why are NATO UN KFOR EU US saying there will be violence if the status is not resolved FAST! Are the lying and we can wait 20 - 30 years or are they not lying and then the alban politicians are. Ridiculous.

“It seems like the idea has originated from Milošević’s reign. Who needs this sort of provocation,”

The return of Serb army and police has always been a possibility since 1999 as set out in resolution 1244. The K-Albs shouldn't be so taken aback that it has been suggested that the army and police return.

Ulpiana Lama herself is absurd claiming that Serbs in the province were in "no danger whatsoever".

If the Serbs in Kosovo are "not in any danger", what is this unrest and possibility of violence that KFOR commanders keep talking about? Will the Albanians direct their violence at each other? Or, would they maybe go after the remaining Serbs? Good point, Ulpiana. You seem to really know what's going on in Kosovo.

well, boys, ...just use your brains... when they were stipulating this back then in ´99 in UNSC 1244, that there will be re-deployed some serbian troops, ...I do not think that they were looking at that as "impossible"...

so, what some albanian officials say seems to be as important as a plastic bag filled with air.

UNSC 1244 says it all, and like it or not, it´s the one and only binding document in regard to the Kosovo-issue.
I know you don´t like it, as pro-independence fanatics, but nevertheless, you´ll have to conform to it, sooner or later and...despite all Rambo-rhethorics.

“He may put on his uniform and come by himself if he is so keen on returning, instead of sending children,” the newspaper quoted Haxhiu.”

An infantile statement from a bogus independent journalist.

The Kosovo Albanian leadership also reacted strongly but they have much bigger problems than the issue of Serbian forces legally returning to Kosovo and Metohija.

Serbia will not voluntarily relinquish sovereignty. The EU has said that they will only recognise independence via the UN. That will clearly not happen.

How will Kosovo enter the EU if it is not a recognised state? What has happened to the self-declared state of Northern Cyprus, even though it is recognised by a NATO member state? People there live on, but it’s not much of an existence.

I guess it’s much easier to rant about Serbia than to come to grips with harsh realities and make the hard decisions.

As I said in my previous posts, DSS and Koshtunica's advisers are not responsible people.
They are playing with political fire and are not serving Serbian people who elected them to govern.
The issue of Serbian forces returning to KosovA is DEAD.
They are not doing any favors to Serbs in KosovA.
The problem in this whole thing is the iresponsible DSS politicians.
DSS is an offshoot of S. Miloshevic!
You know how the West dealt with him!

Cvele is right. At the way things are going, any move to impose independence will be immediately followed with the Serbs of the north breaking away and VS moving in. NATO must then decide whether to shoot back or do nothing. Whatever the result, short of a massive military campaign, northern Kosovo is as good as lost for Pristina, and the squawking coming from Albanian officials about what the Serbs can and can't do, is about as useless as the Serbs in Belgrade declaring the same for the Albanians.

Just another indication of the fairness regarding the entire process. I thought resolution 1244 allowed for the entry of 1000 police and army personnel to protect Serbian interests. Let's face it people, the US never honoured anything they attached their signiature to. It was all predertmined since the inception, they never addressed any of the K-Serbs concerns. Regardless of how you slice it, this is just an anti-Serb campaign aimed at setting up of a Nato run state, and the US will not stop at anything in order to accomplish this goal.

Cvele, you’re right. Someone is lying on this 'violence' issue. The Kosovo Albanian leadership and NATO have often played this card but it hasn’t really helped their cause.

They will never get legal recognition. An illegal declaration of independence is becoming less likely by the day. That’s why partition was suddenly thrown onto the table. Serbia won’t be sucked in, though as Serbia stands to gain nothing from partition. It would have neatly solved the EU’s dilemmas around legal recognition, thus avoiding a US sponsored version of the Northern Cyprus scenario but that’s not Serbia’s problem.

Serbia’s sovereignty and borders will remain legally intact. The EU will need to solve their own problems and one day decide whether to invite Serbia to join as is or not.

Rade
Dont forget that without the UN resolution all their plans of pipelines from the East must be modified. UNLESS... they accept Serbia as is and force the albans to accept autonomy.

I don't really see the problem with a small contingent of Serbian police or troops in Kosovo. It's 2007, not 1999.

If the Kosovo Albanians are stuck in the past like this, how do we expect them to function as a normal, independent government.

Cvele, being thrown the bone of preventing the return of Serbian forces could be part of the compensation package for accepting supervised autonomy.

The NATO dictated timing of Kosovo Albanian elections is also interesting. I wonder how any Kosovo Albanian leaders showing inflexibility at the talks will fare. I think I’ve said before that regime change is possible.

Surroi has already said that everyday life and the economy are much more important to ordinary Kosovo Albanians than the concept of sovereignty and that eight years has already been wasted on a non-issue. High level politics are much more important to expatriates, non-residents and well-paid public servants of the current regime.

The issue of national protection is a federal, not provincial matter. Pristina must not presume to take on more responsibilty than the Serbian constitution allows it. End of story.

" He may put on his uniform and come by himself if he is so keen on returning, instead of sending children,” the newspaper quoted Haxhiu.'

Hahaha, Haxhiu just called the serbian army children and no one caught that. I agree with Haxhiu completely, the belgrade policy-makers are completely out of touch with Kosova---heck those terrorist group lazar know more about Kosova than these neo-milosheviq politicians.

Paul

http://newsblaze.com/story/20070817144836payn.nb/newsblaze/OPINIONS/Opinions.html

2nd paragraph last sentence. Good US article.
CCCC

Cvele,

Thanks for the link. I know about this sight. I'm on it daily. This is the same site that stated something about an Iranian pact as well. I researched for other sources regarding these assertions, but fell short. I agree with the author's point of view, however, I can't place too much credence regarding his sources. I wish they are correct.

to saveKosovo,

"Hahaha, Haxhiu just called the serbian army children and no one caught that."

truly, is THAT your level of argumentation?

how about the others:are there any doubts about the maturity of this boy

cvele, kalifornia.
- The unrest and violence predicted if the negotiations got prolonged unreasonably, should not be misunderstood as a threat towards K-Serbs. They are simply commenting the possibility that the people would get on the streets and hold the current government responsible for inability to fulfil their promises. So, requesting to send troops based on an unsubstantiated imaginary scenario IS absurd.

Cvele:

What is this security agreement between the Greeks. I've heard of one with Iran?

Cvele that link, here is what the last sentence says.

"Last November Athens signed a security agreement with Belgrade and earlier this year a military delegation from Greece was received in Moscow led by the head of the Greek 1st Army."

Also did you see how many references they had, one, they only cited B92. BTW that sentence doesn't mean much, anybody could care less. What is Greece joining the SCO, who cares?

Dan wrote: "I don't really see the problem with a small contingent of Serbian police or troops in Kosovo."
Yeah, but that is a problem for these Serbian police officers or troops in Kosova. Just open the MUP of Serbia web site. Search for victims among MUP members, period 1998/1999

As I said in my previous posts, DSS and Koshtunica's advisers are not responsible people.
They are playing with political fire and are not serving Serbian people who elected them to govern.
The issue of Serbian forces returning to KosovA is DEAD.
They are not doing any favors to Serbs in KosovA.
The problem in this whole thing is the iresponsible DSS politicians.
DSS is an offshoot of S. Miloshevic!
You know how the West dealt with him!

Lazer Im glad u think that WEST will start bombing Serbia. Because it will never happen. Even if Serbs right now entered with their troops NATO would do nothing. More importantly you would do nothing. As soon as unilateral independence is declared Serbs will send in their troops. Possibly Russians will as well and the Greeks. Thanks to the security agreement signed in the first part of 2006. NATO will not stop them since the only legal document will still be resolution 1244.

" He may put on his uniform and come by himself if he is so keen on returning, instead of sending children,” the newspaper quoted Haxhiu.'

Hahaha, Haxhiu just called the serbian army children and no one caught that. I agree with Haxhiu completely, the belgrade policy-makers are completely out of touch with Kosova---heck those terrorist group lazar know more about Kosova than these neo-milosheviq politicians.

“It seems like the idea has originated from Milošević’s reign. Who needs this sort of provocation,”

The return of Serb army and police has always been a possibility since 1999 as set out in resolution 1244. The K-Albs shouldn't be so taken aback that it has been suggested that the army and police return.

Ulpiana Lama herself is absurd claiming that Serbs in the province were in "no danger whatsoever".

If the Serbs in Kosovo are "not in any danger", what is this unrest and possibility of violence that KFOR commanders keep talking about? Will the Albanians direct their violence at each other? Or, would they maybe go after the remaining Serbs? Good point, Ulpiana. You seem to really know what's going on in Kosovo.

Cvele is right. At the way things are going, any move to impose independence will be immediately followed with the Serbs of the north breaking away and VS moving in. NATO must then decide whether to shoot back or do nothing. Whatever the result, short of a massive military campaign, northern Kosovo is as good as lost for Pristina, and the squawking coming from Albanian officials about what the Serbs can and can't do, is about as useless as the Serbs in Belgrade declaring the same for the Albanians.

Cvele that link, here is what the last sentence says.

"Last November Athens signed a security agreement with Belgrade and earlier this year a military delegation from Greece was received in Moscow led by the head of the Greek 1st Army."

Also did you see how many references they had, one, they only cited B92. BTW that sentence doesn't mean much, anybody could care less. What is Greece joining the SCO, who cares?

"Commenting on Prime Minister Koštunica adviser Aleksandar Simić’s statement that the Serbian troops should be sent back to the southern province, spokeswoman for the Kosovo government, Ulpiana Lama, said Saturday such a request was "absurd", adding that Serbs in the province were "in no danger whatsoever."

- so why are NATO UN KFOR EU US saying there will be violence if the status is not resolved FAST! Are the lying and we can wait 20 - 30 years or are they not lying and then the alban politicians are. Ridiculous.

Just another indication of the fairness regarding the entire process. I thought resolution 1244 allowed for the entry of 1000 police and army personnel to protect Serbian interests. Let's face it people, the US never honoured anything they attached their signiature to. It was all predertmined since the inception, they never addressed any of the K-Serbs concerns. Regardless of how you slice it, this is just an anti-Serb campaign aimed at setting up of a Nato run state, and the US will not stop at anything in order to accomplish this goal.

cvele, kalifornia.
- The unrest and violence predicted if the negotiations got prolonged unreasonably, should not be misunderstood as a threat towards K-Serbs. They are simply commenting the possibility that the people would get on the streets and hold the current government responsible for inability to fulfil their promises. So, requesting to send troops based on an unsubstantiated imaginary scenario IS absurd.

Cvele:

What is this security agreement between the Greeks. I've heard of one with Iran?

well, boys, ...just use your brains... when they were stipulating this back then in ´99 in UNSC 1244, that there will be re-deployed some serbian troops, ...I do not think that they were looking at that as "impossible"...

so, what some albanian officials say seems to be as important as a plastic bag filled with air.

UNSC 1244 says it all, and like it or not, it´s the one and only binding document in regard to the Kosovo-issue.
I know you don´t like it, as pro-independence fanatics, but nevertheless, you´ll have to conform to it, sooner or later and...despite all Rambo-rhethorics.

“He may put on his uniform and come by himself if he is so keen on returning, instead of sending children,” the newspaper quoted Haxhiu.”

An infantile statement from a bogus independent journalist.

The Kosovo Albanian leadership also reacted strongly but they have much bigger problems than the issue of Serbian forces legally returning to Kosovo and Metohija.

Serbia will not voluntarily relinquish sovereignty. The EU has said that they will only recognise independence via the UN. That will clearly not happen.

How will Kosovo enter the EU if it is not a recognised state? What has happened to the self-declared state of Northern Cyprus, even though it is recognised by a NATO member state? People there live on, but it’s not much of an existence.

I guess it’s much easier to rant about Serbia than to come to grips with harsh realities and make the hard decisions.

Cvele, you’re right. Someone is lying on this 'violence' issue. The Kosovo Albanian leadership and NATO have often played this card but it hasn’t really helped their cause.

They will never get legal recognition. An illegal declaration of independence is becoming less likely by the day. That’s why partition was suddenly thrown onto the table. Serbia won’t be sucked in, though as Serbia stands to gain nothing from partition. It would have neatly solved the EU’s dilemmas around legal recognition, thus avoiding a US sponsored version of the Northern Cyprus scenario but that’s not Serbia’s problem.

Serbia’s sovereignty and borders will remain legally intact. The EU will need to solve their own problems and one day decide whether to invite Serbia to join as is or not.

Paul

http://newsblaze.com/story/20070817144836payn.nb/newsblaze/OPINIONS/Opinions.html

2nd paragraph last sentence. Good US article.
CCCC

Rade
Dont forget that without the UN resolution all their plans of pipelines from the East must be modified. UNLESS... they accept Serbia as is and force the albans to accept autonomy.

Cvele, being thrown the bone of preventing the return of Serbian forces could be part of the compensation package for accepting supervised autonomy.

The NATO dictated timing of Kosovo Albanian elections is also interesting. I wonder how any Kosovo Albanian leaders showing inflexibility at the talks will fare. I think I’ve said before that regime change is possible.

Surroi has already said that everyday life and the economy are much more important to ordinary Kosovo Albanians than the concept of sovereignty and that eight years has already been wasted on a non-issue. High level politics are much more important to expatriates, non-residents and well-paid public servants of the current regime.

The issue of national protection is a federal, not provincial matter. Pristina must not presume to take on more responsibilty than the Serbian constitution allows it. End of story.

Cvele,

Thanks for the link. I know about this sight. I'm on it daily. This is the same site that stated something about an Iranian pact as well. I researched for other sources regarding these assertions, but fell short. I agree with the author's point of view, however, I can't place too much credence regarding his sources. I wish they are correct.

to saveKosovo,

"Hahaha, Haxhiu just called the serbian army children and no one caught that."

truly, is THAT your level of argumentation?

how about the others:are there any doubts about the maturity of this boy

I don't really see the problem with a small contingent of Serbian police or troops in Kosovo. It's 2007, not 1999.

If the Kosovo Albanians are stuck in the past like this, how do we expect them to function as a normal, independent government.

Dan wrote: "I don't really see the problem with a small contingent of Serbian police or troops in Kosovo."
Yeah, but that is a problem for these Serbian police officers or troops in Kosova. Just open the MUP of Serbia web site. Search for victims among MUP members, period 1998/1999