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Monday, 13.08.2007.

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Six years since Ohrid peace deal

Macedonia today marks the sixth anniversary of the signing of the Ohrid framework agreement.

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jerseyshore

pre 16 godina

Why is that the Albanians fight wherever they live? What do they want? Do they want little Albanias in the country they live in? Why can't they just become citizens where they live? Like they say, "When in Rome, do as the Romans". Or if you want to be Albanian, why wouldn't you just live in Albania? Do the Albanian separtists think they should have an Albanian section in countries they live in? Can an Albanian please explain? And please, no historic Illyrian junk. That's silly. We are in the 21st century.

tom

pre 16 godina

Correction! - The Ohrid Framework Agreement does not mention Macedonia to become a billingual state! There is a clause on languages which is yet to be finalised...however it's broadly based on enabling the ability to learn your mother tongue in the education system. Presently, the Albanians have abused this position and educate their students in one language, howerver EU and OSCE member's have recommended against this. They wish Macedonia becomes another Belgium (multilingual state).

Secondly, there have been minority ethnic parties in parliament for over 2 decades. Even individuals with ethnic backgrounds have presently and previously contributed to the large Macedonian parties without any issues. The 2001 insurgence was more related to the Kosova and NLA ideals. Prior to expulsion of Kosovo citizens, Macedonia was a very peaceful country. Macedonia accepted 300,000 Kosovo refugees during this time only to have a third (some argue 95%) stay behind and support the NLA insurgence and demands.

johny

pre 16 godina

Well it seem you don't remember well. The way you make it sound is as if the Macedonian government was offering the Albanians the Ohrid agreement but the Albanians wanted to fight for no reason whatsoever. One should be reminded that up to that point the Macedonians had total control of power in the political life. They had to be pressured by the EU and US to share that power with the Albanians; thats what stopped the conflict. When Arber Xhaferri talked in Albanian immediately after the agreement was signed President Cervenovski left the room infuriated even though he just signed an agreement which stated that Arber Xhaferri could now talk in Albanian. So things were not as rosy as you make it sound Zoran.

As for your question, the answer is not right one. Serbia has it even worse than what FYROM had it since the solution of that conflict did not question FYROM's sovereignty. The solution of Kosova/o's conflict not only questions Serbia sovereignty but the chances of disregarding it completely are very high. It is very futile for you to feel victorious towards the EU and NATO.

Zoran

pre 16 godina

As far as I remember the US/EU greatly encouraged the Albanians to negotiate and play nice. So now there is some semblance of peace, why not do the same in Serbia with Kosovo? Answer; Serbia is not yet a colony of the EU, nor a NATO state like Macedonia.

Zoran

pre 16 godina

As far as I remember the US/EU greatly encouraged the Albanians to negotiate and play nice. So now there is some semblance of peace, why not do the same in Serbia with Kosovo? Answer; Serbia is not yet a colony of the EU, nor a NATO state like Macedonia.

johny

pre 16 godina

Well it seem you don't remember well. The way you make it sound is as if the Macedonian government was offering the Albanians the Ohrid agreement but the Albanians wanted to fight for no reason whatsoever. One should be reminded that up to that point the Macedonians had total control of power in the political life. They had to be pressured by the EU and US to share that power with the Albanians; thats what stopped the conflict. When Arber Xhaferri talked in Albanian immediately after the agreement was signed President Cervenovski left the room infuriated even though he just signed an agreement which stated that Arber Xhaferri could now talk in Albanian. So things were not as rosy as you make it sound Zoran.

As for your question, the answer is not right one. Serbia has it even worse than what FYROM had it since the solution of that conflict did not question FYROM's sovereignty. The solution of Kosova/o's conflict not only questions Serbia sovereignty but the chances of disregarding it completely are very high. It is very futile for you to feel victorious towards the EU and NATO.

jerseyshore

pre 16 godina

Why is that the Albanians fight wherever they live? What do they want? Do they want little Albanias in the country they live in? Why can't they just become citizens where they live? Like they say, "When in Rome, do as the Romans". Or if you want to be Albanian, why wouldn't you just live in Albania? Do the Albanian separtists think they should have an Albanian section in countries they live in? Can an Albanian please explain? And please, no historic Illyrian junk. That's silly. We are in the 21st century.

tom

pre 16 godina

Correction! - The Ohrid Framework Agreement does not mention Macedonia to become a billingual state! There is a clause on languages which is yet to be finalised...however it's broadly based on enabling the ability to learn your mother tongue in the education system. Presently, the Albanians have abused this position and educate their students in one language, howerver EU and OSCE member's have recommended against this. They wish Macedonia becomes another Belgium (multilingual state).

Secondly, there have been minority ethnic parties in parliament for over 2 decades. Even individuals with ethnic backgrounds have presently and previously contributed to the large Macedonian parties without any issues. The 2001 insurgence was more related to the Kosova and NLA ideals. Prior to expulsion of Kosovo citizens, Macedonia was a very peaceful country. Macedonia accepted 300,000 Kosovo refugees during this time only to have a third (some argue 95%) stay behind and support the NLA insurgence and demands.

Zoran

pre 16 godina

As far as I remember the US/EU greatly encouraged the Albanians to negotiate and play nice. So now there is some semblance of peace, why not do the same in Serbia with Kosovo? Answer; Serbia is not yet a colony of the EU, nor a NATO state like Macedonia.

johny

pre 16 godina

Well it seem you don't remember well. The way you make it sound is as if the Macedonian government was offering the Albanians the Ohrid agreement but the Albanians wanted to fight for no reason whatsoever. One should be reminded that up to that point the Macedonians had total control of power in the political life. They had to be pressured by the EU and US to share that power with the Albanians; thats what stopped the conflict. When Arber Xhaferri talked in Albanian immediately after the agreement was signed President Cervenovski left the room infuriated even though he just signed an agreement which stated that Arber Xhaferri could now talk in Albanian. So things were not as rosy as you make it sound Zoran.

As for your question, the answer is not right one. Serbia has it even worse than what FYROM had it since the solution of that conflict did not question FYROM's sovereignty. The solution of Kosova/o's conflict not only questions Serbia sovereignty but the chances of disregarding it completely are very high. It is very futile for you to feel victorious towards the EU and NATO.

tom

pre 16 godina

Correction! - The Ohrid Framework Agreement does not mention Macedonia to become a billingual state! There is a clause on languages which is yet to be finalised...however it's broadly based on enabling the ability to learn your mother tongue in the education system. Presently, the Albanians have abused this position and educate their students in one language, howerver EU and OSCE member's have recommended against this. They wish Macedonia becomes another Belgium (multilingual state).

Secondly, there have been minority ethnic parties in parliament for over 2 decades. Even individuals with ethnic backgrounds have presently and previously contributed to the large Macedonian parties without any issues. The 2001 insurgence was more related to the Kosova and NLA ideals. Prior to expulsion of Kosovo citizens, Macedonia was a very peaceful country. Macedonia accepted 300,000 Kosovo refugees during this time only to have a third (some argue 95%) stay behind and support the NLA insurgence and demands.

jerseyshore

pre 16 godina

Why is that the Albanians fight wherever they live? What do they want? Do they want little Albanias in the country they live in? Why can't they just become citizens where they live? Like they say, "When in Rome, do as the Romans". Or if you want to be Albanian, why wouldn't you just live in Albania? Do the Albanian separtists think they should have an Albanian section in countries they live in? Can an Albanian please explain? And please, no historic Illyrian junk. That's silly. We are in the 21st century.