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Tuesday, 07.08.2007.

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Defense: Milutinović's conscience clear

Milan Milutinović's defense claims his client did not have command authority over the armed forces in Kosovo in 1999.

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Victor

pre 16 godina

« President Bill Clinton's special envoy to the Balkans, Robert Gelbard, described the KLA as, "without any questions, a terrorist group." »

President Clinton had his own problems at that time and he said many things then which demonstrated that he was disturbed and perturbed!

I do not have to rewrite History as you say; it is already written and most historians are saying what so many of us are expressing. The Serbs, unfortunately for them, agreed with Milosevic and his dream of a GREAT SERBIA... and it turned ugly when the world realized that a genocide was going on in the Balkans. NATO intervene to STOP it and assure SECURITY in Europe, and we did well.

Roger7

pre 16 godina

"These young men were simply insurgents who were fighting for their rights".
Do not insult my intelligence, Victor!
Before the war began in Kosovo, President Bill Clinton's special envoy to the Balkans, Robert Gelbard, described the KLA as, "without any questions, a terrorist group."
In 1998, the US State Department designated the KLA to be a terrorist group funded by drug money.
Only when the likes of Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright thought to use the KLA for their own purposes, not unlike the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan against the Russians, did the KLA come off the terrorist list.
The close relationship of the Clinton administration to the KLA speaks volumes about the poor character of American foreign policy and those who carry it out.
Your attempts to rewrite history only makes you look like a very poor writer of fiction.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«He considers heavily armed murderous KLA soldiers as innocent civilians.»

These young men were simply insurgents who were fighting for their rights. If Milosevic would have not taken away their rights and negociatite a sharing of powers with the Albanian majority, a 'form' of independence as Tadic is talking about, there would have been no war in Kosovo, no KLA, no massacres, no ethnic cleansing, and 12 000 Albanians (Serbs and Albanians) would still be alive.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«It must eat you up that everyday Serbia is prospering...»

Prosperity is not only financial, my friend! The Serbian legacy to other generations of Serbs is gruesome because of what happened in Croatia and Bosnia, and even other republics in the Balkans. Croats and Bosnians would never forget nor forgive what legions of Serbs have accomplished against helpless civilians, and the example Ida gave is nothing compared to what the Serbs have done in Omarska, Keraterm, Trnopolje and 100 of other camps where torture, rape and killing was the 'daily bread' of 1000s of the victims.

I know that countless of Serbs have suffered because of Milosevic, Karadzic and Mladic's choices, to cleanse Croats and Muslims of territories they wanted for Greater Serbia, and to finalize this cleansing, this racial purification, the soldiers, the army, the paramilitaries ledd by Seselj and Arkan had 'carte blanche'.

Canadian

pre 16 godina

Don't generalize please. A few kids are not representative of all the Croats.
(Victor, 7. August 2007 22:55)

You call a group estimated to be between 5,000 and 8,000 a few kids! And then you say don't generalize? By the way alcohol was served at that concert so are you saying the Croatian law allows alcohol to be served to kids? And back to generalizing, it is you who does that with every post you make against Serbs. It must eat you up that everyday Serbia is prospering and Kosovo remains theirs and Croatia seems to get further and further away from ever joining the EU.

PV

pre 16 godina

"The military conflict 1998-1999 was legitimate because the KLA was a “terrorist organization.” The defense counsel compared the KLA with Al Qaeda, saying that the Albanian terrorists' activities were no different from the attacks in New York, London, Madrid and the recent siege of the Red Mosque in Islamabad."

George Bush in 7 years still hasnt seemed to grasp this

Roger7

pre 16 godina

Canadian...I don’t know if you are old enough to remember the old 45 records, we use to play? These vinyls could get a scratch in them, causing the needle to be stuck, resulting in the same part of the tune being played over and over again. Reminds me of Victor’s offerings on this site, just like a broken record.
In a recent post Victor said, “The ICTY are investigating Gotovina and other generals for thir this major operation” (Operation Storm).
How carefully Victor chose his sterile words when he described Gotovina and anything pertaining to Croatia.
Gotovina is indicted by the ICTY in concert with Franjo Tudjman and accused of “unlawful killing, shooting, burning and stabbing, beaten, torture” of the Krajina Serbs and Victor describes it as simply “absence of discipline and control”. Nothing criminal.
Gotovina, according to Victor, was involved in a "major operaton" and the Serbs a "massive campaign of killing and ethnic cleansing"

By his own words, Victor is a hypocrite.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«You never have anything constructive to say! »

I just sais in a previous post that Rep. Srpska should provide the funds in the exhumation of mass graves in northeastern Bosnia, because all these mass graves are the work of the Bosnian Gov and military.

I find this comment to be a very constructive one.

As for the concert where a few kids displayed fascist attitudes, the radicals in Serbia are not doing better when the agree with Mladic and what he has achieved in Srebrenica.

Don't generalize please. A few kids are not representative of all the Croats.

Canadian

pre 16 godina

Victor you are constantly looking for an opportunity to slander and spread hate against Serbs. You're boring and never have anything constructive to say! But when Croatia holds concerts to honor the NAZI's of the second world war, you do not speak up to condemn it.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«As for the Supreme Defence Counsel – Milutinović was a member ...»

He was a member and he chose to do nothing to stop the this massive campaign of killing and ethnic cleansing planned by the Government.

He was a member of a criminal enterprise, and he chose to remain there, to be a member of a criminal institution.

Now, he says that his conscience is clear. What is clear to me and many Albanians from Kosovo is that he knowingly participated in criminal activities to eradicate Kosovar Albanians through a massive campaign of killing and ethnic cleansing.

Canadian

pre 16 godina

Victor you are constantly looking for an opportunity to slander and spread hate against Serbs. You're boring and never have anything constructive to say! But when Croatia holds concerts to honor the NAZI's of the second world war, you do not speak up to condemn it.

Roger7

pre 16 godina

Canadian...I don’t know if you are old enough to remember the old 45 records, we use to play? These vinyls could get a scratch in them, causing the needle to be stuck, resulting in the same part of the tune being played over and over again. Reminds me of Victor’s offerings on this site, just like a broken record.
In a recent post Victor said, “The ICTY are investigating Gotovina and other generals for thir this major operation” (Operation Storm).
How carefully Victor chose his sterile words when he described Gotovina and anything pertaining to Croatia.
Gotovina is indicted by the ICTY in concert with Franjo Tudjman and accused of “unlawful killing, shooting, burning and stabbing, beaten, torture” of the Krajina Serbs and Victor describes it as simply “absence of discipline and control”. Nothing criminal.
Gotovina, according to Victor, was involved in a "major operaton" and the Serbs a "massive campaign of killing and ethnic cleansing"

By his own words, Victor is a hypocrite.

Roger7

pre 16 godina

"These young men were simply insurgents who were fighting for their rights".
Do not insult my intelligence, Victor!
Before the war began in Kosovo, President Bill Clinton's special envoy to the Balkans, Robert Gelbard, described the KLA as, "without any questions, a terrorist group."
In 1998, the US State Department designated the KLA to be a terrorist group funded by drug money.
Only when the likes of Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright thought to use the KLA for their own purposes, not unlike the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan against the Russians, did the KLA come off the terrorist list.
The close relationship of the Clinton administration to the KLA speaks volumes about the poor character of American foreign policy and those who carry it out.
Your attempts to rewrite history only makes you look like a very poor writer of fiction.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«As for the Supreme Defence Counsel – Milutinović was a member ...»

He was a member and he chose to do nothing to stop the this massive campaign of killing and ethnic cleansing planned by the Government.

He was a member of a criminal enterprise, and he chose to remain there, to be a member of a criminal institution.

Now, he says that his conscience is clear. What is clear to me and many Albanians from Kosovo is that he knowingly participated in criminal activities to eradicate Kosovar Albanians through a massive campaign of killing and ethnic cleansing.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«You never have anything constructive to say! »

I just sais in a previous post that Rep. Srpska should provide the funds in the exhumation of mass graves in northeastern Bosnia, because all these mass graves are the work of the Bosnian Gov and military.

I find this comment to be a very constructive one.

As for the concert where a few kids displayed fascist attitudes, the radicals in Serbia are not doing better when the agree with Mladic and what he has achieved in Srebrenica.

Don't generalize please. A few kids are not representative of all the Croats.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«It must eat you up that everyday Serbia is prospering...»

Prosperity is not only financial, my friend! The Serbian legacy to other generations of Serbs is gruesome because of what happened in Croatia and Bosnia, and even other republics in the Balkans. Croats and Bosnians would never forget nor forgive what legions of Serbs have accomplished against helpless civilians, and the example Ida gave is nothing compared to what the Serbs have done in Omarska, Keraterm, Trnopolje and 100 of other camps where torture, rape and killing was the 'daily bread' of 1000s of the victims.

I know that countless of Serbs have suffered because of Milosevic, Karadzic and Mladic's choices, to cleanse Croats and Muslims of territories they wanted for Greater Serbia, and to finalize this cleansing, this racial purification, the soldiers, the army, the paramilitaries ledd by Seselj and Arkan had 'carte blanche'.

PV

pre 16 godina

"The military conflict 1998-1999 was legitimate because the KLA was a “terrorist organization.” The defense counsel compared the KLA with Al Qaeda, saying that the Albanian terrorists' activities were no different from the attacks in New York, London, Madrid and the recent siege of the Red Mosque in Islamabad."

George Bush in 7 years still hasnt seemed to grasp this

Canadian

pre 16 godina

Don't generalize please. A few kids are not representative of all the Croats.
(Victor, 7. August 2007 22:55)

You call a group estimated to be between 5,000 and 8,000 a few kids! And then you say don't generalize? By the way alcohol was served at that concert so are you saying the Croatian law allows alcohol to be served to kids? And back to generalizing, it is you who does that with every post you make against Serbs. It must eat you up that everyday Serbia is prospering and Kosovo remains theirs and Croatia seems to get further and further away from ever joining the EU.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«He considers heavily armed murderous KLA soldiers as innocent civilians.»

These young men were simply insurgents who were fighting for their rights. If Milosevic would have not taken away their rights and negociatite a sharing of powers with the Albanian majority, a 'form' of independence as Tadic is talking about, there would have been no war in Kosovo, no KLA, no massacres, no ethnic cleansing, and 12 000 Albanians (Serbs and Albanians) would still be alive.

Victor

pre 16 godina

« President Bill Clinton's special envoy to the Balkans, Robert Gelbard, described the KLA as, "without any questions, a terrorist group." »

President Clinton had his own problems at that time and he said many things then which demonstrated that he was disturbed and perturbed!

I do not have to rewrite History as you say; it is already written and most historians are saying what so many of us are expressing. The Serbs, unfortunately for them, agreed with Milosevic and his dream of a GREAT SERBIA... and it turned ugly when the world realized that a genocide was going on in the Balkans. NATO intervene to STOP it and assure SECURITY in Europe, and we did well.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«As for the Supreme Defence Counsel – Milutinović was a member ...»

He was a member and he chose to do nothing to stop the this massive campaign of killing and ethnic cleansing planned by the Government.

He was a member of a criminal enterprise, and he chose to remain there, to be a member of a criminal institution.

Now, he says that his conscience is clear. What is clear to me and many Albanians from Kosovo is that he knowingly participated in criminal activities to eradicate Kosovar Albanians through a massive campaign of killing and ethnic cleansing.

Canadian

pre 16 godina

Victor you are constantly looking for an opportunity to slander and spread hate against Serbs. You're boring and never have anything constructive to say! But when Croatia holds concerts to honor the NAZI's of the second world war, you do not speak up to condemn it.

Roger7

pre 16 godina

Canadian...I don’t know if you are old enough to remember the old 45 records, we use to play? These vinyls could get a scratch in them, causing the needle to be stuck, resulting in the same part of the tune being played over and over again. Reminds me of Victor’s offerings on this site, just like a broken record.
In a recent post Victor said, “The ICTY are investigating Gotovina and other generals for thir this major operation” (Operation Storm).
How carefully Victor chose his sterile words when he described Gotovina and anything pertaining to Croatia.
Gotovina is indicted by the ICTY in concert with Franjo Tudjman and accused of “unlawful killing, shooting, burning and stabbing, beaten, torture” of the Krajina Serbs and Victor describes it as simply “absence of discipline and control”. Nothing criminal.
Gotovina, according to Victor, was involved in a "major operaton" and the Serbs a "massive campaign of killing and ethnic cleansing"

By his own words, Victor is a hypocrite.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«You never have anything constructive to say! »

I just sais in a previous post that Rep. Srpska should provide the funds in the exhumation of mass graves in northeastern Bosnia, because all these mass graves are the work of the Bosnian Gov and military.

I find this comment to be a very constructive one.

As for the concert where a few kids displayed fascist attitudes, the radicals in Serbia are not doing better when the agree with Mladic and what he has achieved in Srebrenica.

Don't generalize please. A few kids are not representative of all the Croats.

PV

pre 16 godina

"The military conflict 1998-1999 was legitimate because the KLA was a “terrorist organization.” The defense counsel compared the KLA with Al Qaeda, saying that the Albanian terrorists' activities were no different from the attacks in New York, London, Madrid and the recent siege of the Red Mosque in Islamabad."

George Bush in 7 years still hasnt seemed to grasp this

Canadian

pre 16 godina

Don't generalize please. A few kids are not representative of all the Croats.
(Victor, 7. August 2007 22:55)

You call a group estimated to be between 5,000 and 8,000 a few kids! And then you say don't generalize? By the way alcohol was served at that concert so are you saying the Croatian law allows alcohol to be served to kids? And back to generalizing, it is you who does that with every post you make against Serbs. It must eat you up that everyday Serbia is prospering and Kosovo remains theirs and Croatia seems to get further and further away from ever joining the EU.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«It must eat you up that everyday Serbia is prospering...»

Prosperity is not only financial, my friend! The Serbian legacy to other generations of Serbs is gruesome because of what happened in Croatia and Bosnia, and even other republics in the Balkans. Croats and Bosnians would never forget nor forgive what legions of Serbs have accomplished against helpless civilians, and the example Ida gave is nothing compared to what the Serbs have done in Omarska, Keraterm, Trnopolje and 100 of other camps where torture, rape and killing was the 'daily bread' of 1000s of the victims.

I know that countless of Serbs have suffered because of Milosevic, Karadzic and Mladic's choices, to cleanse Croats and Muslims of territories they wanted for Greater Serbia, and to finalize this cleansing, this racial purification, the soldiers, the army, the paramilitaries ledd by Seselj and Arkan had 'carte blanche'.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«He considers heavily armed murderous KLA soldiers as innocent civilians.»

These young men were simply insurgents who were fighting for their rights. If Milosevic would have not taken away their rights and negociatite a sharing of powers with the Albanian majority, a 'form' of independence as Tadic is talking about, there would have been no war in Kosovo, no KLA, no massacres, no ethnic cleansing, and 12 000 Albanians (Serbs and Albanians) would still be alive.

Roger7

pre 16 godina

"These young men were simply insurgents who were fighting for their rights".
Do not insult my intelligence, Victor!
Before the war began in Kosovo, President Bill Clinton's special envoy to the Balkans, Robert Gelbard, described the KLA as, "without any questions, a terrorist group."
In 1998, the US State Department designated the KLA to be a terrorist group funded by drug money.
Only when the likes of Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright thought to use the KLA for their own purposes, not unlike the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan against the Russians, did the KLA come off the terrorist list.
The close relationship of the Clinton administration to the KLA speaks volumes about the poor character of American foreign policy and those who carry it out.
Your attempts to rewrite history only makes you look like a very poor writer of fiction.

Victor

pre 16 godina

« President Bill Clinton's special envoy to the Balkans, Robert Gelbard, described the KLA as, "without any questions, a terrorist group." »

President Clinton had his own problems at that time and he said many things then which demonstrated that he was disturbed and perturbed!

I do not have to rewrite History as you say; it is already written and most historians are saying what so many of us are expressing. The Serbs, unfortunately for them, agreed with Milosevic and his dream of a GREAT SERBIA... and it turned ugly when the world realized that a genocide was going on in the Balkans. NATO intervene to STOP it and assure SECURITY in Europe, and we did well.