Koštunica: Serbia rejects Kosovo’s independence

"New negotiations can be pursued only within UN Security Council Resolution 1244 and with a clear UN mandate," it stresses.

Why then going to the other rounds of negotiations? Where are the calls for unconditional negotiations?

"The Parliament of Serbia believes that unilateral recognition of the self-proclaimed independence of Kosovo would have unforeseeable consequences for regional stability."
Who is threating? The highest body of the state, compare to some single Albanians who were bluffing of war. No wonder why Montenegro's left Serbia too.


I guess, if this resolution passes the Serbian parliament, EU & UN should rethink why they've to make a new rounds of negotiation. They will be useless.

Peace to Kosovo & Serbia

Ahmet,do you have any more wise words that we should mark?:-)

Russia supports Serbia because both are Slavic and Orthodox countries with authoritarian and expansionist views. The West is afraid to recognize Kosovo independence and go against Russia because Russia has the second bigger nuclear arsenal and the second bigger oil reserves of the Planet Earth.

So, when this Balkan deadlock will end? I fear that this catch-22 situation will go for decades on without a clear resolution, just like the cases of Taiwan and Northern Cyprus…

What a waste of time, serbian parlament should work on more important issues , such as to treat all citizens equaly before other parts of serbia ask for divorce, becaseu KOSOVA is not with serbia anymore and is a done deal. Please guys, stopping wasting any more time about KOSOVA.Just a friendly advice.

I guess politics is politics and as such, a lot of time and effort is wasted on useless resolutions.
The hard fact is that there are two ethnic groups that despise and mistrust each other. Blood has been spilled on both sides in the thousands.

If (for the sake of argument) Kosovo were to remain part of Serbia, it would only serve as a source of disharmony, empty rhetoric and suspicion of the other side. As such, it would set back both the Serbs and the Albanians in their efforts to achieve a better future and prosperity...quickly.

For now, the Albanians and the Serbs should go their separate ways if for no other reason than to simply let the bad blood cool off. As I've said before here, a partition is the only logical solution. In the long run, once the Western Balkans do get integrated into the EU, these borders will cease to matter anyway in practical terms.

Even in case of the general lethargy of all relevant International factors, it is exactly the Serbian government with its initiatives who reminds earth of the necessity of resolution modifications. It heralds with every possible instrument in maximum to alert the others on consistency to the actual international law, which has been adopted long time ago under certain circumstances. But, it fails to be consistent on its own documents, changing them upon almost each important meeting of relevant internationals regarding the issue. It reminds International Community that resolutions and documents may be modified in accordance with the existing requirements. Hence, the document is a piece of letter written by humans which is intended to satisfy requirements imposed by the existing situation. Positioning itself in accordance with its own perspective is another huge mistake. The Serbian Government should bear in mind that in this case is only a part, it should recall 1999 when had withdrawn from Kosova/o along with entire state mechanisms. Thus, it isn’t entitled to decide on the amount of the rights which is willing to give to someone.
In the end – UN is composed by a great number of states that recognize Kosovo’s independence, The Helsinki Accords was agreed more or less by the same actors, UNSC Resolution 1244 is same story. Now same factors apart of Russia (one against all) are for the map changes in Balkans, due to the actual political, economical, historical and what else… reasons.
Finally, if US and EU decide to “violate sovereignty and integrity” of R.S. what would be the reaction?

I am waiting to see if the Serbian government will react to the Pristina's declaration of independence using the military force as Milosevic regime did in 1991 against Slovenia and Croatia.

Albanian leaders must not expect full independence within the present-day boundaries of Kosovo and make such promises to their constituents thereby raising animosity on both sides- essentially eliminating any chance of cooperation in the future. Albanian leaders showed no governing ability over the Serb minority, and with the credibility of their leaders one cannot expect a change (note: some of those leaders were quoted earlier with respect to prideful statements of treating Serbs in “ZOO-like conditions”). Furthermore, one must not blame Serbs for boycotting governmental participation in Pristina's self-proclaimed parliament as the Albanians (those in power today) pursued the same "diplomacy" in the 1990s.
In addition, recent world history points to the following results of disassembling a sovereign state:

(1) 1878 Berlin Congress
(2) 1938 Chech Republic Crisis

Both of which resulted in disastrous consequences. On the other hand, a vivid example of unilateral independence in the Balkans is the partition of Bosnia/ Croatia/ Serbia in areas of clear ethnic separations; again disastrous. Thus, there can only be three solutions:

(1) Continuation of the status quo indefinitely- as it happens elsewhere in the world
(2) Unilateral declaration of independence followed by massive bloodshed as it happened in the 1990s
(3) Partition- the quick and likely blood-free conflict resolution if done correctly

Finally, although very unlikely, as Albanians point out how they can live with Serbs (not under their rule), then Serbs ought to be given the chance to govern their land via its new democratic government and thereby get international support for making the invaluable governmental changes. After all, Germany’s efforts were recognized following the WWII.

Peter,
I have responded tou you about "mark my words', but smehow it did not make it on the screenof your computer. Blame b92 for not posting my coments.
By the way the draft itself is self explanatory whay Albanians and serbs can not live under the same roof, and the threats mentioned on this draft towards Albanians and International comunity(threats against any contry that will recognaize Kosova Independence), to me they seem to be nothing but empty threats , I don't see a smoking gun anywhere.

"WE WANT JOBS AND A FUTURE FOR OUR KIDS, NOT ENDLESS WARS FOR A MYTH!!"
(Lilly, 25. July 2007 03:16)

Don't you think for one moment that we the Serbs want the same thing? You cannot take something that wasn't yours in the first place. Furthermore, your greater albania will not be created thanks to the leaders of Serbia!

Ment - I totally agree.

Ahmet:

Two words for you: Russian resolve.

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/146081.html

Massimo,

K-Albanian extremists have already declared independence in 1990 but they and their mentors forgot about it because it was worthless by international law. UDI MkII of independent Kosovistan will be no different. If K-Albanians want Kuzey Kibris of their own, that's their choice. Kosovo is inalenable part of Serbia and no UDI can change that -minorities have no right of self-determination.

Brazilian Guy, there are also sizable minorities in Serbia and Russia. What both are saying is that minorities cannot use violent and illegal means to declare independence. This is a solid international principle.

The solution, as I see it, is to declare partitioned autonomy in Kosovo with "EUMIK " in south and Serbia in north Kosovo with the intended goal of a harmonized autonomous region within a unified Serbia in the EU. Kosovo in Serbia. Serbia in EU.

Brazilian Guy, there are also sizable minorities in Serbia and Russia. What both are saying is that minorities cannot use violent and illegal means to declare independence. This is a solid international principle.

The solution, as I see it, is to declare partitioned autonomy in Kosovo with "EUMIK " in south and Serbia in north Kosovo with the intended goal of a harmonized autonomous region within a unified Serbia in the EU. Kosovo in Serbia. Serbia in EU.

Brrrr....watch the world tremble!
I think that by the end of this all (whichever way it ends) both K-Albanians and Serbs are gonna be allergic to the word resolution.

What's this resolution supposed to mean? Albania's parliament has already recognized Kosovo's independence in 1991. How did Serbia 'act forcefully' in that case?

" "The Parliament of Serbia believes that unilateral recognition of the self-proclaimed independence of Kosovo would have unforeseeable consequences for regional stability."

Who is threating? The highest body of the state, compare to some single Albanians who were bluffing of war. No wonder why Montenegro's left Serbia too. "

these unforeseeable consequences for regional stability and not so unforeseeable. drug trafficking, prostitution & terrorist incursions (just ask macedonia) will be rampant if the we allow the spawn of an islamic state ran by a regime with criminal ties.

and who is "threatening"??? you already said so yourself... the HIGHEST BODY OF STATE... the only people in the state that should have weapons.

"Hence, the document is a piece of letter written by humans which is intended to satisfy requirements imposed by the existing situation."

so is qu'uran.

"Positioning itself in accordance with its own perspective is another huge mistake."

i agree.

"... And to make sure he doesn't stand up for himself I could get a bunch of my friends from the gym to 'educate and reform' him so that he can see he has lost 'touch with reality' because he had tried to stop me from taking his yard..."

hahaha... but his land was always yours.. eventhough he moved to that neighbourbood long before you :P

I watch the news and heard PM coments using the words ; " Albanians separatists". I will not use similar words and get to the same level of education , but I got one thing for him and this is a promise ;" You willnever have an opportunity to take a photo with an AK-47 on Kosova land just like you did during micky-milosheiviq's era.

Unlike Taiwan and N. Cyprus K-Albanians have on their side powerful countries such as the US, UK, Germany, France and Italy. K-Albanian situation is much better. If Serbia wants to join the EU or NATO it has to agree with the countries mentioned above. If not it can always be a Russian satellite. I hope they choose the second option. Serbia as a Russian satellite would be a country that is not welcome and is seen with suspicion by the West. This puts K-Albanians in a privileged position; exactly what Serbia is trying to avoid today.

What is Serbia going to do in case of Unilateral declaration of independence. Start an economic embargo against US and EU.

For one thing, the same week it's declared you are going to have at least 18 EU members, 14 Latin American, 20 Islamic, and 3 Asian countries recognising it. Almost half of the world. And by the end of the year, Only countries to have been left against the Independence of KosovA shall be Russia, Serbia, And Greece.

LOLOL .. Serbia speaks and the "west" is shaking in their pants. cGet a grip Kostunica. The only will to fulfill your state threats are among your pensioners and houswives...lolol! What's wrong with the rest of Serbian society? At least your police had enough spine to strike. Time is here again for the rest of your people to stand up and tell that kostunica "WE WANT JOBS AND A FUTURE FOR OUR KIDS, NOT ENDLESS WARS FOR A MYTH!!"

Laki Bani

So what you are saying is that if I want a piece of my neighbours back yard, I should make his dog bark at me, say he bit me, and then file a report. Whilst I'm filing a report on that I could also swing by the real estate office and have them change my neingbours property area, and to legaly simply give a section of his yard to me, so that it 'suits my situation'. And to make sure he doesn't stand up for himself I could get a bunch of my friends from the gym to 'educate and reform' him so that he can see he has lost 'touch with reality' because he had tried to stop me from taking his yard, and not been given a chance by my 'friends' to say no.

I really can't understand you guys why are you waisting time and believing politicians. Don't you know that they will say anything to get more votes so they can continue stealing and securing their own life, while the rest of us will suffer.
Can you not see that soon that we will be the only country outside EU, isn't that ashame?

What on earth do we need Kosovo? So I have to pay taxes to support army or police so they can controll it?

I as a Serb do not care at all, and most of the people I know here can't even be bothered to discuss the issue of Kosovo, it is only causing us head ache.

Lets accept that Kosovo is gone since 1999. And our leaders should concentrate in working hard for our economy, education and many other issues so our kids can have a better future.

What a waste of time, serbian parlament should work on more important issues , such as to treat all citizens equaly before other parts of serbia ask for divorce, becaseu KOSOVA is not with serbia anymore and is a done deal. Please guys, stopping wasting any more time about KOSOVA.Just a friendly advice.

Ahmet,do you have any more wise words that we should mark?:-)

"New negotiations can be pursued only within UN Security Council Resolution 1244 and with a clear UN mandate," it stresses.

Why then going to the other rounds of negotiations? Where are the calls for unconditional negotiations?

"The Parliament of Serbia believes that unilateral recognition of the self-proclaimed independence of Kosovo would have unforeseeable consequences for regional stability."
Who is threating? The highest body of the state, compare to some single Albanians who were bluffing of war. No wonder why Montenegro's left Serbia too.


I guess, if this resolution passes the Serbian parliament, EU & UN should rethink why they've to make a new rounds of negotiation. They will be useless.

Peace to Kosovo & Serbia

What is Serbia going to do in case of Unilateral declaration of independence. Start an economic embargo against US and EU.

For one thing, the same week it's declared you are going to have at least 18 EU members, 14 Latin American, 20 Islamic, and 3 Asian countries recognising it. Almost half of the world. And by the end of the year, Only countries to have been left against the Independence of KosovA shall be Russia, Serbia, And Greece.

I guess politics is politics and as such, a lot of time and effort is wasted on useless resolutions.
The hard fact is that there are two ethnic groups that despise and mistrust each other. Blood has been spilled on both sides in the thousands.

If (for the sake of argument) Kosovo were to remain part of Serbia, it would only serve as a source of disharmony, empty rhetoric and suspicion of the other side. As such, it would set back both the Serbs and the Albanians in their efforts to achieve a better future and prosperity...quickly.

For now, the Albanians and the Serbs should go their separate ways if for no other reason than to simply let the bad blood cool off. As I've said before here, a partition is the only logical solution. In the long run, once the Western Balkans do get integrated into the EU, these borders will cease to matter anyway in practical terms.

I watch the news and heard PM coments using the words ; " Albanians separatists". I will not use similar words and get to the same level of education , but I got one thing for him and this is a promise ;" You willnever have an opportunity to take a photo with an AK-47 on Kosova land just like you did during micky-milosheiviq's era.

Even in case of the general lethargy of all relevant International factors, it is exactly the Serbian government with its initiatives who reminds earth of the necessity of resolution modifications. It heralds with every possible instrument in maximum to alert the others on consistency to the actual international law, which has been adopted long time ago under certain circumstances. But, it fails to be consistent on its own documents, changing them upon almost each important meeting of relevant internationals regarding the issue. It reminds International Community that resolutions and documents may be modified in accordance with the existing requirements. Hence, the document is a piece of letter written by humans which is intended to satisfy requirements imposed by the existing situation. Positioning itself in accordance with its own perspective is another huge mistake. The Serbian Government should bear in mind that in this case is only a part, it should recall 1999 when had withdrawn from Kosova/o along with entire state mechanisms. Thus, it isn’t entitled to decide on the amount of the rights which is willing to give to someone.
In the end – UN is composed by a great number of states that recognize Kosovo’s independence, The Helsinki Accords was agreed more or less by the same actors, UNSC Resolution 1244 is same story. Now same factors apart of Russia (one against all) are for the map changes in Balkans, due to the actual political, economical, historical and what else… reasons.
Finally, if US and EU decide to “violate sovereignty and integrity” of R.S. what would be the reaction?

Peter,
I have responded tou you about "mark my words', but smehow it did not make it on the screenof your computer. Blame b92 for not posting my coments.
By the way the draft itself is self explanatory whay Albanians and serbs can not live under the same roof, and the threats mentioned on this draft towards Albanians and International comunity(threats against any contry that will recognaize Kosova Independence), to me they seem to be nothing but empty threats , I don't see a smoking gun anywhere.

I am waiting to see if the Serbian government will react to the Pristina's declaration of independence using the military force as Milosevic regime did in 1991 against Slovenia and Croatia.

Unlike Taiwan and N. Cyprus K-Albanians have on their side powerful countries such as the US, UK, Germany, France and Italy. K-Albanian situation is much better. If Serbia wants to join the EU or NATO it has to agree with the countries mentioned above. If not it can always be a Russian satellite. I hope they choose the second option. Serbia as a Russian satellite would be a country that is not welcome and is seen with suspicion by the West. This puts K-Albanians in a privileged position; exactly what Serbia is trying to avoid today.

LOLOL .. Serbia speaks and the "west" is shaking in their pants. cGet a grip Kostunica. The only will to fulfill your state threats are among your pensioners and houswives...lolol! What's wrong with the rest of Serbian society? At least your police had enough spine to strike. Time is here again for the rest of your people to stand up and tell that kostunica "WE WANT JOBS AND A FUTURE FOR OUR KIDS, NOT ENDLESS WARS FOR A MYTH!!"

Brrrr....watch the world tremble!
I think that by the end of this all (whichever way it ends) both K-Albanians and Serbs are gonna be allergic to the word resolution.

Russia supports Serbia because both are Slavic and Orthodox countries with authoritarian and expansionist views. The West is afraid to recognize Kosovo independence and go against Russia because Russia has the second bigger nuclear arsenal and the second bigger oil reserves of the Planet Earth.

So, when this Balkan deadlock will end? I fear that this catch-22 situation will go for decades on without a clear resolution, just like the cases of Taiwan and Northern Cyprus…

What's this resolution supposed to mean? Albania's parliament has already recognized Kosovo's independence in 1991. How did Serbia 'act forcefully' in that case?

Ment - I totally agree.

Ahmet:

Two words for you: Russian resolve.

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/146081.html

Massimo,

K-Albanian extremists have already declared independence in 1990 but they and their mentors forgot about it because it was worthless by international law. UDI MkII of independent Kosovistan will be no different. If K-Albanians want Kuzey Kibris of their own, that's their choice. Kosovo is inalenable part of Serbia and no UDI can change that -minorities have no right of self-determination.

Brazilian Guy, there are also sizable minorities in Serbia and Russia. What both are saying is that minorities cannot use violent and illegal means to declare independence. This is a solid international principle.

The solution, as I see it, is to declare partitioned autonomy in Kosovo with "EUMIK " in south and Serbia in north Kosovo with the intended goal of a harmonized autonomous region within a unified Serbia in the EU. Kosovo in Serbia. Serbia in EU.

Albanian leaders must not expect full independence within the present-day boundaries of Kosovo and make such promises to their constituents thereby raising animosity on both sides- essentially eliminating any chance of cooperation in the future. Albanian leaders showed no governing ability over the Serb minority, and with the credibility of their leaders one cannot expect a change (note: some of those leaders were quoted earlier with respect to prideful statements of treating Serbs in “ZOO-like conditions”). Furthermore, one must not blame Serbs for boycotting governmental participation in Pristina's self-proclaimed parliament as the Albanians (those in power today) pursued the same "diplomacy" in the 1990s.
In addition, recent world history points to the following results of disassembling a sovereign state:

(1) 1878 Berlin Congress
(2) 1938 Chech Republic Crisis

Both of which resulted in disastrous consequences. On the other hand, a vivid example of unilateral independence in the Balkans is the partition of Bosnia/ Croatia/ Serbia in areas of clear ethnic separations; again disastrous. Thus, there can only be three solutions:

(1) Continuation of the status quo indefinitely- as it happens elsewhere in the world
(2) Unilateral declaration of independence followed by massive bloodshed as it happened in the 1990s
(3) Partition- the quick and likely blood-free conflict resolution if done correctly

Finally, although very unlikely, as Albanians point out how they can live with Serbs (not under their rule), then Serbs ought to be given the chance to govern their land via its new democratic government and thereby get international support for making the invaluable governmental changes. After all, Germany’s efforts were recognized following the WWII.

Brazilian Guy, there are also sizable minorities in Serbia and Russia. What both are saying is that minorities cannot use violent and illegal means to declare independence. This is a solid international principle.

The solution, as I see it, is to declare partitioned autonomy in Kosovo with "EUMIK " in south and Serbia in north Kosovo with the intended goal of a harmonized autonomous region within a unified Serbia in the EU. Kosovo in Serbia. Serbia in EU.

"WE WANT JOBS AND A FUTURE FOR OUR KIDS, NOT ENDLESS WARS FOR A MYTH!!"
(Lilly, 25. July 2007 03:16)

Don't you think for one moment that we the Serbs want the same thing? You cannot take something that wasn't yours in the first place. Furthermore, your greater albania will not be created thanks to the leaders of Serbia!

Laki Bani

So what you are saying is that if I want a piece of my neighbours back yard, I should make his dog bark at me, say he bit me, and then file a report. Whilst I'm filing a report on that I could also swing by the real estate office and have them change my neingbours property area, and to legaly simply give a section of his yard to me, so that it 'suits my situation'. And to make sure he doesn't stand up for himself I could get a bunch of my friends from the gym to 'educate and reform' him so that he can see he has lost 'touch with reality' because he had tried to stop me from taking his yard, and not been given a chance by my 'friends' to say no.

I really can't understand you guys why are you waisting time and believing politicians. Don't you know that they will say anything to get more votes so they can continue stealing and securing their own life, while the rest of us will suffer.
Can you not see that soon that we will be the only country outside EU, isn't that ashame?

What on earth do we need Kosovo? So I have to pay taxes to support army or police so they can controll it?

I as a Serb do not care at all, and most of the people I know here can't even be bothered to discuss the issue of Kosovo, it is only causing us head ache.

Lets accept that Kosovo is gone since 1999. And our leaders should concentrate in working hard for our economy, education and many other issues so our kids can have a better future.

" "The Parliament of Serbia believes that unilateral recognition of the self-proclaimed independence of Kosovo would have unforeseeable consequences for regional stability."

Who is threating? The highest body of the state, compare to some single Albanians who were bluffing of war. No wonder why Montenegro's left Serbia too. "

these unforeseeable consequences for regional stability and not so unforeseeable. drug trafficking, prostitution & terrorist incursions (just ask macedonia) will be rampant if the we allow the spawn of an islamic state ran by a regime with criminal ties.

and who is "threatening"??? you already said so yourself... the HIGHEST BODY OF STATE... the only people in the state that should have weapons.

"Hence, the document is a piece of letter written by humans which is intended to satisfy requirements imposed by the existing situation."

so is qu'uran.

"Positioning itself in accordance with its own perspective is another huge mistake."

i agree.

"... And to make sure he doesn't stand up for himself I could get a bunch of my friends from the gym to 'educate and reform' him so that he can see he has lost 'touch with reality' because he had tried to stop me from taking his yard..."

hahaha... but his land was always yours.. eventhough he moved to that neighbourbood long before you :P