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Monday, 23.07.2007.

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Bishop pledges support for Hague fugitives

A Serbian Orthodox Church (SPC) bishop has said he would help Karadžić and Mladić given the opportunity.

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ahmet isufi

pre 16 godina

Vuk, I don't know who is more ignorant but I know one thing you are supporting a war criminal ad I am against it as is the entire wordl. Shame on you.

Walter

pre 16 godina

Johny I don’t judge the rest of the Albanians by you. You fabricate numbers and what I said without any evidence to the contrary. Johny if that is how you spell your name don’t protect Axmet and Victor with lies they do that blatantly without your help.

Afrim Hoxha I would help Mladic and Karadjic and any Albanian accused of criminality by the Hague Tribunal until such time when we get a court at the Hauge that is independent, follows the rule of law and due process. When the indictments leveled against NATO are treated the same as those leveled against the Serbs and the KLA and when that happens I would say gentlemen its time to go face your accusers.

Afrim Hoxha

pre 16 godina

It is interesting to see how some people here are commenting on how some regular posters are talking negatively against the orthodox priests but these are not saying anything about these ORTHODOX PRIESTS for what they said that they would help Karadzic and Mladic.
Please dont try to move the heat from the orthodox priests to some regular posters here.
I would like to see what some serbs would have to say about this priest who said that he would help Karadzic or Mladic.
Thanks

johny

pre 16 godina

"Ahmet and Victor if you were born into my family you would not be a bigot but a good person who judges people by their character and not by how they were indoctrinated.."

This comes from a person who calls 2 million K-Albanians terrorists.

Walter

pre 16 godina

Victor give me a break, the orthodox Church is a babe in the woods compared to Catholics and the Muslims. The Vatican has protected the worst elements of the Ustase and the SS smuggling hundred to South America where they continue to protect term. In north America they have a history of pedophilia. Across America and Canada priests of the Catholic faith are charged daily with indecency and pedophilia. In the Los Angeles diocese just recently the courts found them guilty of child molestation and fined the diocese 600 million dollars. As far as Ahmet is concerned and his holier that thou attitude the Muslims circumcise some five million female girls every year and force fifty percent of their population to dress in beekeeper outfits all in the name of someone who tells you if you strap explosives to yourself and kill some unbelievers you will go to heaven and be with 72 virgins but he does not tell you that the fathers and brothers of those virgins will kill you if you get close to them. Ahmet and Victor if you were born into my family you would not be a bigot but a good person who judges people by their character and not by how they were indoctrinated.. Religion is an opium of the masses driven by ignorance by the ignorant

George - USA

pre 16 godina

Yaroslav, I am sorry that you feel that way. But my comment was butchered by B92. My point was that the Serbian Orthodox Church Current Leaders, The ones that Put Milovsevic in Power, The ones that Blessed Killers, and the ones that hide Criminals. Are giving the truly religionist Serbian Orthodox a bad name. And like I said in my first comment before all these commentors blasted me, that there are a lot of good Orthodox Bishops out there (I believe most of them), but they are under the control of the flow bad ones.

Here is a previous posting http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=39860#hrono
My main point is that the State of Serbia should be separated from the Church!!!

Victor

pre 16 godina

When a religion by some of its members give individuals the morale right to protect war criminals, such an attitude give also the right to commit the worst exactions as we've seen in Bosnia.

Joe

pre 16 godina

No wonder that many Serbs committed terribles crimes within the ex-Yugoslavia. They were guided by so-called "bishops", who were criminals and belonged to The Hague.

kalifornija

pre 16 godina

Our Albanian friends just can't wait to post a negative comment, if they can portray Serbs as bad and evil. Nice try, in this case but, it does not work. These priests are speaking on behalf of themselves, and not the Orthodox Church or the Orthodox people. Every religion has their radical side. This wasn't even newsworthy. Why don't you anti-Serb guys try saying something nice about Serbians? Like congratulations on your young basketball players. It will make you feel better inside, rather than spewing hate all the time. And we could start a reconciliation process. Do any of you have children?

Zoran

pre 16 godina

Yes Orthodox Church bad, Catholics, Islam good. The Catholics never started a religious war (30 years war, Charlemagne's bloody rampage) or any inquisitions (Medieval, Spanish, Portuguese, Roman) or any crusades. Muslims never conducted Jihads or forced Islam on anybody. Yet people from these Religions have the audacity (Ahmet, George) to point the finger (look first at the plank in your eye!) at the Orthodox Church. Fact is, that in comparison the Orthodox Church looks like a dove of peace!

Yaroslav

pre 16 godina

Well George you American. I have no respect for protestants and catholics then. If your going to make such an assumption about all of Orthodoxy based obn the comment of one church I can then say the following about other christian churches and religions. Oh yes and don't forget that the Catholic Church and the Vatican are filled with treasures stolen from the Orthodox church and from victims of the holocaust.

The Catholic church to this day allows people to buy indulgences (give mopney to the church to have your sins forgiven), that actively has supported and still those support imperialists and dictators, and of course it's a church that is run like a corporation.

And Protestants (particularly Evangelicals) are nothing but people claiming to spread the word of god but doing nothing more then trying to convert people (their favourite bargaining tool is food aid), they all also try to earn money off of supposedly spreading gods message, of course they all lie to get people to convert and let's not forget that they consistently pass a message of hatred towards other christians and religions, homosexuals and that they also want to turn the united states into a theocracy.

Seems to me that their is no respect to be given to the other branches of christendom. The simple fact is Orthodoxy has some hardliners but the Catholic Church has more (particularly in the higher echelons of power) and nearly all Protestants are hardliners (particularly in your country the USA). I have a better idea, how about you actually learn something about Orthodoxy. With some exceptions (such as this individuals) most members of the hierarchy of the Orthodox church talk of tolerance, in Orthodoxy it is illegal to convert someone against their will (this is not so in most protestant churches (their are some exceptions) and not so in the catholic church), the orthodox church is not racist since although most members are of European stock (particularly Eastern European) it should be noted that Orthodoxy has a large number of followers in middle eastern nations, in the Caucausus mountains and in Ethiopia in Africa.

I have a better idea, how about your churches stop protecting child molesters and spreading height and denouncing other churches (the vatican recently said orthodox churches are defective) and start doing things like reforming your churches, becoming more charitable, stop spreading hate and so forth. Of the three main btanches of Christianity Orthodoxy is the most open and tolerant one. If your lies were true then why do most Orthodox churches have significant muslim minorities, since according to you such a situation should not exist as Orthodox churches are not tolerant. The symbol fact is you are not aware of the facts and are trying to spread anti-orthodox sentiments.

GSP

pre 16 godina

Ahmet & George -

If you don't want "us" to talk about "your" religion, then just be mindful of what you say. This is yet another example of how these two gents fail to look at the whole picture.


TO B92 - as you have allowed Ahmet to post a number of commentaries that really should have not been, I hope this one makes it through.

Hermon

pre 16 godina

So, let me get this straight.
You guys were bothered from Ahmet's and George's words and had no comments for this cleric's support to those criminals.
Do you feel ashamed for having such spiritual leaders?
To George
I am Albanian myself and personally not affiliated to any religious group. However I think your comments about the Orthodox church in general are not approriate and they smell racism.
I am suprised B92 published them ...

Victor

pre 16 godina

There are nuts in all nations, even in their dignitaries, bishops, priests, imams... and even popes. The pope who sent Crusades in the 12th centurt was far more under demonic power than a few signers who have a style of music different from the Orthodox hymns.

Generalisation is always wrong. A few Orthodox bishops are not representatives of a church, and it is the same for the Catholic Church or Islam. There are rotten apples in all nations.

Mike

pre 16 godina

Ahmet please, don't make yourself sound uneducated, especially writing in capital letters as to emphasize the point more. The Serbian Church, like almost every other organized religion - including Catholics and other Orthodox - have had prelates and officials say and do controversial things in the past. Please don't prejudice an entire group for one or two bad apples. You don't like it when we typecast Albanians, so please have the foresight and the respect to do the same.

Vuk

pre 16 godina

Both Ahmet and George have insefficient knowledge to base such outragous claims since they are both clearly ingnorant as to the real teachings and beliefs of the Orthodox church.

Do not speak of what you know not off.

As for you george being a Christian and not having any respect for the Orthodox christian church is a clear paradox which identifies you as a fool frankly who has somehow managed to link the start of the Yugoslav civil war with the Serbian Orthodox church?
Keep you comments please.

George - USA

pre 16 godina

This is just another Black eye on the Serbian people from their Church, “Both dignitaries, ranking high in the SPC hierarchy, are seen as members of a more hard-line faction within the church. “ The wars in Croatia against the Catholics, In Bosnia against the Muslims and Catholic, and In Kosovo against the Albanians (Muslims, Orthodox, and Catholics) left 100’s of thousand DEID and Millions Homeless. Being a christen myself, I have no respect for the Orthodox faith. I hope one day the Orthodox Church turns around and starts preaching place and love of all people (know madder what faith or race they are) like the Bible states (all the people of the World are Gods). I know that there are so many good Bishops in the Orthodox Church, but they need to start removing this hard-liner and replacing them with the good Bishops, so that they can bring back the respect to the Church.

God bless,

Obilic

pre 16 godina

Ahmet, i dont think you want to start talking about religions....do you want me to start naming problems within the muslim religion?? i didnt think so!!!

Ahmet Isufi

pre 16 godina

THIS IS THE TRUE FACE OF SERBIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH. The same church blased paramilitaries before they went inrampage and coused mayhem and masacre.Montenegro authorities are doing a good job for prevening people that incite hate rather than talk about peace and love for mankind.

Obilic

pre 16 godina

Ahmet, i dont think you want to start talking about religions....do you want me to start naming problems within the muslim religion?? i didnt think so!!!

Ahmet Isufi

pre 16 godina

THIS IS THE TRUE FACE OF SERBIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH. The same church blased paramilitaries before they went inrampage and coused mayhem and masacre.Montenegro authorities are doing a good job for prevening people that incite hate rather than talk about peace and love for mankind.

George - USA

pre 16 godina

This is just another Black eye on the Serbian people from their Church, “Both dignitaries, ranking high in the SPC hierarchy, are seen as members of a more hard-line faction within the church. “ The wars in Croatia against the Catholics, In Bosnia against the Muslims and Catholic, and In Kosovo against the Albanians (Muslims, Orthodox, and Catholics) left 100’s of thousand DEID and Millions Homeless. Being a christen myself, I have no respect for the Orthodox faith. I hope one day the Orthodox Church turns around and starts preaching place and love of all people (know madder what faith or race they are) like the Bible states (all the people of the World are Gods). I know that there are so many good Bishops in the Orthodox Church, but they need to start removing this hard-liner and replacing them with the good Bishops, so that they can bring back the respect to the Church.

God bless,

Mike

pre 16 godina

Ahmet please, don't make yourself sound uneducated, especially writing in capital letters as to emphasize the point more. The Serbian Church, like almost every other organized religion - including Catholics and other Orthodox - have had prelates and officials say and do controversial things in the past. Please don't prejudice an entire group for one or two bad apples. You don't like it when we typecast Albanians, so please have the foresight and the respect to do the same.

Vuk

pre 16 godina

Both Ahmet and George have insefficient knowledge to base such outragous claims since they are both clearly ingnorant as to the real teachings and beliefs of the Orthodox church.

Do not speak of what you know not off.

As for you george being a Christian and not having any respect for the Orthodox christian church is a clear paradox which identifies you as a fool frankly who has somehow managed to link the start of the Yugoslav civil war with the Serbian Orthodox church?
Keep you comments please.

Zoran

pre 16 godina

Yes Orthodox Church bad, Catholics, Islam good. The Catholics never started a religious war (30 years war, Charlemagne's bloody rampage) or any inquisitions (Medieval, Spanish, Portuguese, Roman) or any crusades. Muslims never conducted Jihads or forced Islam on anybody. Yet people from these Religions have the audacity (Ahmet, George) to point the finger (look first at the plank in your eye!) at the Orthodox Church. Fact is, that in comparison the Orthodox Church looks like a dove of peace!

Hermon

pre 16 godina

So, let me get this straight.
You guys were bothered from Ahmet's and George's words and had no comments for this cleric's support to those criminals.
Do you feel ashamed for having such spiritual leaders?
To George
I am Albanian myself and personally not affiliated to any religious group. However I think your comments about the Orthodox church in general are not approriate and they smell racism.
I am suprised B92 published them ...

Joe

pre 16 godina

No wonder that many Serbs committed terribles crimes within the ex-Yugoslavia. They were guided by so-called "bishops", who were criminals and belonged to The Hague.

Yaroslav

pre 16 godina

Well George you American. I have no respect for protestants and catholics then. If your going to make such an assumption about all of Orthodoxy based obn the comment of one church I can then say the following about other christian churches and religions. Oh yes and don't forget that the Catholic Church and the Vatican are filled with treasures stolen from the Orthodox church and from victims of the holocaust.

The Catholic church to this day allows people to buy indulgences (give mopney to the church to have your sins forgiven), that actively has supported and still those support imperialists and dictators, and of course it's a church that is run like a corporation.

And Protestants (particularly Evangelicals) are nothing but people claiming to spread the word of god but doing nothing more then trying to convert people (their favourite bargaining tool is food aid), they all also try to earn money off of supposedly spreading gods message, of course they all lie to get people to convert and let's not forget that they consistently pass a message of hatred towards other christians and religions, homosexuals and that they also want to turn the united states into a theocracy.

Seems to me that their is no respect to be given to the other branches of christendom. The simple fact is Orthodoxy has some hardliners but the Catholic Church has more (particularly in the higher echelons of power) and nearly all Protestants are hardliners (particularly in your country the USA). I have a better idea, how about you actually learn something about Orthodoxy. With some exceptions (such as this individuals) most members of the hierarchy of the Orthodox church talk of tolerance, in Orthodoxy it is illegal to convert someone against their will (this is not so in most protestant churches (their are some exceptions) and not so in the catholic church), the orthodox church is not racist since although most members are of European stock (particularly Eastern European) it should be noted that Orthodoxy has a large number of followers in middle eastern nations, in the Caucausus mountains and in Ethiopia in Africa.

I have a better idea, how about your churches stop protecting child molesters and spreading height and denouncing other churches (the vatican recently said orthodox churches are defective) and start doing things like reforming your churches, becoming more charitable, stop spreading hate and so forth. Of the three main btanches of Christianity Orthodoxy is the most open and tolerant one. If your lies were true then why do most Orthodox churches have significant muslim minorities, since according to you such a situation should not exist as Orthodox churches are not tolerant. The symbol fact is you are not aware of the facts and are trying to spread anti-orthodox sentiments.

kalifornija

pre 16 godina

Our Albanian friends just can't wait to post a negative comment, if they can portray Serbs as bad and evil. Nice try, in this case but, it does not work. These priests are speaking on behalf of themselves, and not the Orthodox Church or the Orthodox people. Every religion has their radical side. This wasn't even newsworthy. Why don't you anti-Serb guys try saying something nice about Serbians? Like congratulations on your young basketball players. It will make you feel better inside, rather than spewing hate all the time. And we could start a reconciliation process. Do any of you have children?

Victor

pre 16 godina

When a religion by some of its members give individuals the morale right to protect war criminals, such an attitude give also the right to commit the worst exactions as we've seen in Bosnia.

Walter

pre 16 godina

Victor give me a break, the orthodox Church is a babe in the woods compared to Catholics and the Muslims. The Vatican has protected the worst elements of the Ustase and the SS smuggling hundred to South America where they continue to protect term. In north America they have a history of pedophilia. Across America and Canada priests of the Catholic faith are charged daily with indecency and pedophilia. In the Los Angeles diocese just recently the courts found them guilty of child molestation and fined the diocese 600 million dollars. As far as Ahmet is concerned and his holier that thou attitude the Muslims circumcise some five million female girls every year and force fifty percent of their population to dress in beekeeper outfits all in the name of someone who tells you if you strap explosives to yourself and kill some unbelievers you will go to heaven and be with 72 virgins but he does not tell you that the fathers and brothers of those virgins will kill you if you get close to them. Ahmet and Victor if you were born into my family you would not be a bigot but a good person who judges people by their character and not by how they were indoctrinated.. Religion is an opium of the masses driven by ignorance by the ignorant

Victor

pre 16 godina

There are nuts in all nations, even in their dignitaries, bishops, priests, imams... and even popes. The pope who sent Crusades in the 12th centurt was far more under demonic power than a few signers who have a style of music different from the Orthodox hymns.

Generalisation is always wrong. A few Orthodox bishops are not representatives of a church, and it is the same for the Catholic Church or Islam. There are rotten apples in all nations.

GSP

pre 16 godina

Ahmet & George -

If you don't want "us" to talk about "your" religion, then just be mindful of what you say. This is yet another example of how these two gents fail to look at the whole picture.


TO B92 - as you have allowed Ahmet to post a number of commentaries that really should have not been, I hope this one makes it through.

George - USA

pre 16 godina

Yaroslav, I am sorry that you feel that way. But my comment was butchered by B92. My point was that the Serbian Orthodox Church Current Leaders, The ones that Put Milovsevic in Power, The ones that Blessed Killers, and the ones that hide Criminals. Are giving the truly religionist Serbian Orthodox a bad name. And like I said in my first comment before all these commentors blasted me, that there are a lot of good Orthodox Bishops out there (I believe most of them), but they are under the control of the flow bad ones.

Here is a previous posting http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=39860#hrono
My main point is that the State of Serbia should be separated from the Church!!!

johny

pre 16 godina

"Ahmet and Victor if you were born into my family you would not be a bigot but a good person who judges people by their character and not by how they were indoctrinated.."

This comes from a person who calls 2 million K-Albanians terrorists.

Afrim Hoxha

pre 16 godina

It is interesting to see how some people here are commenting on how some regular posters are talking negatively against the orthodox priests but these are not saying anything about these ORTHODOX PRIESTS for what they said that they would help Karadzic and Mladic.
Please dont try to move the heat from the orthodox priests to some regular posters here.
I would like to see what some serbs would have to say about this priest who said that he would help Karadzic or Mladic.
Thanks

ahmet isufi

pre 16 godina

Vuk, I don't know who is more ignorant but I know one thing you are supporting a war criminal ad I am against it as is the entire wordl. Shame on you.

Walter

pre 16 godina

Johny I don’t judge the rest of the Albanians by you. You fabricate numbers and what I said without any evidence to the contrary. Johny if that is how you spell your name don’t protect Axmet and Victor with lies they do that blatantly without your help.

Afrim Hoxha I would help Mladic and Karadjic and any Albanian accused of criminality by the Hague Tribunal until such time when we get a court at the Hauge that is independent, follows the rule of law and due process. When the indictments leveled against NATO are treated the same as those leveled against the Serbs and the KLA and when that happens I would say gentlemen its time to go face your accusers.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 16 godina

THIS IS THE TRUE FACE OF SERBIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH. The same church blased paramilitaries before they went inrampage and coused mayhem and masacre.Montenegro authorities are doing a good job for prevening people that incite hate rather than talk about peace and love for mankind.

George - USA

pre 16 godina

This is just another Black eye on the Serbian people from their Church, “Both dignitaries, ranking high in the SPC hierarchy, are seen as members of a more hard-line faction within the church. “ The wars in Croatia against the Catholics, In Bosnia against the Muslims and Catholic, and In Kosovo against the Albanians (Muslims, Orthodox, and Catholics) left 100’s of thousand DEID and Millions Homeless. Being a christen myself, I have no respect for the Orthodox faith. I hope one day the Orthodox Church turns around and starts preaching place and love of all people (know madder what faith or race they are) like the Bible states (all the people of the World are Gods). I know that there are so many good Bishops in the Orthodox Church, but they need to start removing this hard-liner and replacing them with the good Bishops, so that they can bring back the respect to the Church.

God bless,

Vuk

pre 16 godina

Both Ahmet and George have insefficient knowledge to base such outragous claims since they are both clearly ingnorant as to the real teachings and beliefs of the Orthodox church.

Do not speak of what you know not off.

As for you george being a Christian and not having any respect for the Orthodox christian church is a clear paradox which identifies you as a fool frankly who has somehow managed to link the start of the Yugoslav civil war with the Serbian Orthodox church?
Keep you comments please.

Joe

pre 16 godina

No wonder that many Serbs committed terribles crimes within the ex-Yugoslavia. They were guided by so-called "bishops", who were criminals and belonged to The Hague.

Obilic

pre 16 godina

Ahmet, i dont think you want to start talking about religions....do you want me to start naming problems within the muslim religion?? i didnt think so!!!

johny

pre 16 godina

"Ahmet and Victor if you were born into my family you would not be a bigot but a good person who judges people by their character and not by how they were indoctrinated.."

This comes from a person who calls 2 million K-Albanians terrorists.

Mike

pre 16 godina

Ahmet please, don't make yourself sound uneducated, especially writing in capital letters as to emphasize the point more. The Serbian Church, like almost every other organized religion - including Catholics and other Orthodox - have had prelates and officials say and do controversial things in the past. Please don't prejudice an entire group for one or two bad apples. You don't like it when we typecast Albanians, so please have the foresight and the respect to do the same.

Yaroslav

pre 16 godina

Well George you American. I have no respect for protestants and catholics then. If your going to make such an assumption about all of Orthodoxy based obn the comment of one church I can then say the following about other christian churches and religions. Oh yes and don't forget that the Catholic Church and the Vatican are filled with treasures stolen from the Orthodox church and from victims of the holocaust.

The Catholic church to this day allows people to buy indulgences (give mopney to the church to have your sins forgiven), that actively has supported and still those support imperialists and dictators, and of course it's a church that is run like a corporation.

And Protestants (particularly Evangelicals) are nothing but people claiming to spread the word of god but doing nothing more then trying to convert people (their favourite bargaining tool is food aid), they all also try to earn money off of supposedly spreading gods message, of course they all lie to get people to convert and let's not forget that they consistently pass a message of hatred towards other christians and religions, homosexuals and that they also want to turn the united states into a theocracy.

Seems to me that their is no respect to be given to the other branches of christendom. The simple fact is Orthodoxy has some hardliners but the Catholic Church has more (particularly in the higher echelons of power) and nearly all Protestants are hardliners (particularly in your country the USA). I have a better idea, how about you actually learn something about Orthodoxy. With some exceptions (such as this individuals) most members of the hierarchy of the Orthodox church talk of tolerance, in Orthodoxy it is illegal to convert someone against their will (this is not so in most protestant churches (their are some exceptions) and not so in the catholic church), the orthodox church is not racist since although most members are of European stock (particularly Eastern European) it should be noted that Orthodoxy has a large number of followers in middle eastern nations, in the Caucausus mountains and in Ethiopia in Africa.

I have a better idea, how about your churches stop protecting child molesters and spreading height and denouncing other churches (the vatican recently said orthodox churches are defective) and start doing things like reforming your churches, becoming more charitable, stop spreading hate and so forth. Of the three main btanches of Christianity Orthodoxy is the most open and tolerant one. If your lies were true then why do most Orthodox churches have significant muslim minorities, since according to you such a situation should not exist as Orthodox churches are not tolerant. The symbol fact is you are not aware of the facts and are trying to spread anti-orthodox sentiments.

Hermon

pre 16 godina

So, let me get this straight.
You guys were bothered from Ahmet's and George's words and had no comments for this cleric's support to those criminals.
Do you feel ashamed for having such spiritual leaders?
To George
I am Albanian myself and personally not affiliated to any religious group. However I think your comments about the Orthodox church in general are not approriate and they smell racism.
I am suprised B92 published them ...

Zoran

pre 16 godina

Yes Orthodox Church bad, Catholics, Islam good. The Catholics never started a religious war (30 years war, Charlemagne's bloody rampage) or any inquisitions (Medieval, Spanish, Portuguese, Roman) or any crusades. Muslims never conducted Jihads or forced Islam on anybody. Yet people from these Religions have the audacity (Ahmet, George) to point the finger (look first at the plank in your eye!) at the Orthodox Church. Fact is, that in comparison the Orthodox Church looks like a dove of peace!

Victor

pre 16 godina

When a religion by some of its members give individuals the morale right to protect war criminals, such an attitude give also the right to commit the worst exactions as we've seen in Bosnia.

Walter

pre 16 godina

Johny I don’t judge the rest of the Albanians by you. You fabricate numbers and what I said without any evidence to the contrary. Johny if that is how you spell your name don’t protect Axmet and Victor with lies they do that blatantly without your help.

Afrim Hoxha I would help Mladic and Karadjic and any Albanian accused of criminality by the Hague Tribunal until such time when we get a court at the Hauge that is independent, follows the rule of law and due process. When the indictments leveled against NATO are treated the same as those leveled against the Serbs and the KLA and when that happens I would say gentlemen its time to go face your accusers.

Victor

pre 16 godina

There are nuts in all nations, even in their dignitaries, bishops, priests, imams... and even popes. The pope who sent Crusades in the 12th centurt was far more under demonic power than a few signers who have a style of music different from the Orthodox hymns.

Generalisation is always wrong. A few Orthodox bishops are not representatives of a church, and it is the same for the Catholic Church or Islam. There are rotten apples in all nations.

GSP

pre 16 godina

Ahmet & George -

If you don't want "us" to talk about "your" religion, then just be mindful of what you say. This is yet another example of how these two gents fail to look at the whole picture.


TO B92 - as you have allowed Ahmet to post a number of commentaries that really should have not been, I hope this one makes it through.

kalifornija

pre 16 godina

Our Albanian friends just can't wait to post a negative comment, if they can portray Serbs as bad and evil. Nice try, in this case but, it does not work. These priests are speaking on behalf of themselves, and not the Orthodox Church or the Orthodox people. Every religion has their radical side. This wasn't even newsworthy. Why don't you anti-Serb guys try saying something nice about Serbians? Like congratulations on your young basketball players. It will make you feel better inside, rather than spewing hate all the time. And we could start a reconciliation process. Do any of you have children?

George - USA

pre 16 godina

Yaroslav, I am sorry that you feel that way. But my comment was butchered by B92. My point was that the Serbian Orthodox Church Current Leaders, The ones that Put Milovsevic in Power, The ones that Blessed Killers, and the ones that hide Criminals. Are giving the truly religionist Serbian Orthodox a bad name. And like I said in my first comment before all these commentors blasted me, that there are a lot of good Orthodox Bishops out there (I believe most of them), but they are under the control of the flow bad ones.

Here is a previous posting http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=39860#hrono
My main point is that the State of Serbia should be separated from the Church!!!

Walter

pre 16 godina

Victor give me a break, the orthodox Church is a babe in the woods compared to Catholics and the Muslims. The Vatican has protected the worst elements of the Ustase and the SS smuggling hundred to South America where they continue to protect term. In north America they have a history of pedophilia. Across America and Canada priests of the Catholic faith are charged daily with indecency and pedophilia. In the Los Angeles diocese just recently the courts found them guilty of child molestation and fined the diocese 600 million dollars. As far as Ahmet is concerned and his holier that thou attitude the Muslims circumcise some five million female girls every year and force fifty percent of their population to dress in beekeeper outfits all in the name of someone who tells you if you strap explosives to yourself and kill some unbelievers you will go to heaven and be with 72 virgins but he does not tell you that the fathers and brothers of those virgins will kill you if you get close to them. Ahmet and Victor if you were born into my family you would not be a bigot but a good person who judges people by their character and not by how they were indoctrinated.. Religion is an opium of the masses driven by ignorance by the ignorant

Afrim Hoxha

pre 16 godina

It is interesting to see how some people here are commenting on how some regular posters are talking negatively against the orthodox priests but these are not saying anything about these ORTHODOX PRIESTS for what they said that they would help Karadzic and Mladic.
Please dont try to move the heat from the orthodox priests to some regular posters here.
I would like to see what some serbs would have to say about this priest who said that he would help Karadzic or Mladic.
Thanks

ahmet isufi

pre 16 godina

Vuk, I don't know who is more ignorant but I know one thing you are supporting a war criminal ad I am against it as is the entire wordl. Shame on you.