"Violence will get in way of independence"

Michael (Australia) wrote:"I use to consider KLA as liberation army and just recently I discovered the truth..."
It seems that you have a love adventure while you visited Serbia. That helped you to "discover the truth"

Listen, 'michael', for someone who has spent a 'century' in australia, you cant even spell 'law' right??

Anyway. To the point. Kosovo aims to attack any administrations entering kosovo, be it the sebian internal police or other serbian posts left behind after the war. That is what the KLA aims to fight against, aswell as probably attempting to scare off the serbs in mitrovica.

Now to the question on the fate of 'kosovo metohija'. I myself am a kosovar and have lived in the days when Tito was leader of yugoslavia. At the rate the union was growing, economically and militarily, it would today have been more powerful than the EU. Everyone was happy including the kosovars which had better jobs and a better life under the rule of Tito. However, When milosevic took power, he erupted something that tito fought for so long to keep control of; ethnic rivalry. From then on, all the members of yugoslavia fell one by one, and kosovo is the last domino to eventually fall. It is unfair that this ethnic rivalry has grown between the serbs and kosovars because they lived together with so much peace and worked together to build a stronger yougoslavia.

However, the policies of milosevic have given norms to many things, and ethnic rivalry can never again be held under control, especially when serbia attempted an ethnic cleansing in Kosovo, killing somewhat 7,000 innocent civilians.

How can there be any possible solution to this apart from an independent Kosovo?

Time is running out. Its make it or break it!!!
It would benefit Serbia and Russia to go with the program.
Serbia should get new people to lead them to the bright future in EU and have good relations with US.
It will be no more shortages of goods, iether material or quality of life.
By nor cooperating Serbia is doing a very bad favor to its own people.
In the past, up to the time when the butcher of Balkans came to power Serbia has had very smart and witty politicians.
Its time to change the attitude NOW!!!

michael have you ever been in Kosova or Albania?
an australian admiring Kostunica,weird,maybe normal for an australian called michaelovic.
And btw we are not going anywere.

I keep asking this question, and nobody ever has a viable response. "Who will the K_Albanians direct their violence at? Will they just shoot any human or animal they see? Will they cross into Mitrovica and ethnically cleanse the remaining Serbs? Will the KLA reunite and march on Belgrade? Will they fire at NATO/UN troops? Ouch! Please, would one Albanian familiar with the current atmosphere in Kosovo explain that. I would like to know.

By majority he means majorily important. Come on, do you expect India and Indonesia and such to decide on Kosova?

I hate to say it but Princip you are very naive. On todays politics the country with most dense population number means nothing, and this is through out history of mankind. numeber means nothing, but power, strenght, economics, updted military mchinare etc... has more power than a large number of inhabitants. For example; Switzerland is more powerful than India that you mentioned, in world arena of political cloud and so on.
Hey michael, I think you forgat the rest of Kosovar population to include in your solving approach,. You just mentuied muslims like we care that much about religion . Albanina s are of many different fates(muslim, roman catholic, orthodox, and other sects) and do not have any religious hang up.So stop using religion, becasue you are not convincing anybody on this one.

for anyone who propose's that albanians have a country, quite easily so does serbia so does greece, so how does cyprus, and other slavic balkans countries can but albanians cant....
coz your language is different or a variation? is it religion? isit culture? is it a mixture of all? are the bosnians muslim serbs? monetenegro?

I am very glad to hear that Michael learned that there is a country called Albania in his latest visit to Serbia. You learn a new thing everyday my friend. What are you going to learn next is anybody’s guess.

"democratic government from Belgrade"

Not only is this phrase moronic, but its also an oxymoron,ironic and sarcastic.
How can a democratic country which claims that its being stolen of 15% of its territory not allow the inhabitants of that territory, which make up around 20% of its citizens, vote for the supreme law of the land " the Constitution? Only in a moronic and perverse democracy like the one in Belgrade can a prime minister call a group of people as full-fledged citizens, and at the same time these full-fledged citizens are not allowed to vote for their constitution.
If this constitutes a democracy, then the definition of a democratic state must have changed.

Marsad

So, I found Albanian who is willing to teach me English language. With your level of English you should know difference between misspelling and mistyping. Misspelling is distinguished from other errors in writing, such as grammatical errors, incorrect capitalisation etc. Mate, typing Metohia instead of Metohija is misspelling. Would you like to teach me what is democracy too?

Mr. Mirsed, by stating that KLA is going to attack and bully the rest of Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija and being proud on that is not wise. You just uncovered real face of KLA.

I use to consider KLA as liberation army and just recently I discovered the truth. Hopefully other people will find out too, including all my mates (I can assure you there are many of them).

Worlds majority - I wonder if he has considered the word of the 2 most populaous nations India and China or is he very selective as ever in his view on what a "world majority" actually means.

The soultion is simple for all to see that the it is the US and a 'few' European nations who have got themselves into a self made trap and they can quite easily solve this with an admission that they are in the wrong - Russia does not need to their bidding and it's withdrawal from CFE treay this morining means it is serious if others wish to escalate - Putin was blunt in Munich but was telling others to listen, now he is showing others that he is not talking mere words. The US & the 'few' Europeans really have plent on their plate in Iraq & Afghanistan (so called friends of the 80's) and need not walk into greater problems because they can't say they didn't hear or see the warning signs!

" I wonder if he has considered the word of the 2 most populaous nations India and China or is he very selective as ever in his view on what a "world majority" actually means. "

Seriously, what difference would that make? 2.5 billion vs 3.5 people who do recognize Kosova's independence. If China and India weren't such power hogs they'd have 300 other sitting nations at the UN alligned to their position and able to call any obstruction by their enemies. But NOOOOOO, like Serbia, they only want to swallow up other smaller nationalities and cultures into their own non-existent one and call themselves a 'democracy' for the 1% ruling class. Time for the world to recognize the smaller cultures and language groups of these godzilla nations that has no inherent indigenous one of their own.

The world's majority is not a dozen European countries and America, and in fact these countries represent less then 20% of the world, so hardly a majority.

It looks like that there are no politicians in Serbia that will abandon Kosovo and Metohija. I have been in Serbia and spoke to ordinary Serbians. Each Serbian I spoke to emphasised that Kosovo and Metohija is unseparated part of one body – Serbia. So I learned that Albanians have its own country called Albania and nobody in Serbia will have objections if they decide to live back there. If they decide to stay in Serbia’s province Kosovo and Metohija than their choice automatically oblige them to respect Serbian’s constitution, low and order, similar to our approach in Australia.
Serbia like Australia needs friendship with US, but if it is based on mutual respect and relationship integrity only. Friendship is not based on fear or interest.
It looks like that president Kostunica is man of the principals and can’t be bought or threatened.
I am from Australia and personally would like to see our politicians strong enough to solve ongoing problems with Muslim community with the principal approach adopted by presidents Kostunica.

No Lazer, time is not running out for Serbia, Rather the other way around.

Why should this concern Serbia? well for one our people and property (which is all Kosovo) But take note that it is not Serbia who is threatening violence so this warning bares not meaning to us.

the EU is not our biggest concern and Serbs can wait to join, we hae other preasing matters to deal with besides just Kosovo. See unlike you we can see that the EU is not all that great and you have clearly been mislead.

So get the thought of Serbia ever letting Kosovo go or Kosovo ever getting independence.

You also seem to be mislead the quality of life in Serbia, LOL people in Serbia are very comfortable more so than many east bloc nations in the EU today. But thank you for your concern, Serbia works hard to get what and where it wants. We have set our goals (which we cannot tell you ;) our secret)

I am afraid your offer has been rejected, thank you have a nice day...I know I will.

Regards.

Violence by whom and AGAINST WHOM?It is obvious that there is no legal way to revoke the ownership deed Serbia was given back in 1912(way before Yugoslavia even existed and the drawing by Communists of pseudo borders) over the land but maybe it is time for all the Serbs to temporarily relocate to safe areas in the north.Can the Serbs in Bosnia wait any longer?1000 Russian nuclear weapons stationed in Belgrade and Kalinigrad would serve as a wake up call to the disrespectful arrogant secessionists everywhere in Europe trying to steal land without paying adequate compensation.The EU should get out the checkbook and start writing.

It is already clear this will not pass by many nations including Serbia and Russia at the UN Security Council.
No illegal independence and theft of Serbian heartland and state, and people of Kosovo get self rule.

Serwer is right...the US were not successful in the unlawful theft of serbian territory.

Albanians are the duped ones.

and once again they are reduced to violence or at least the threat of violence..since there is no moral, no legal and even no historical right of Albanians to take away this serbian province.

Time is running out, one Albanian here has written. I would say Time has already run out. The US is no longer in the chairmanship-position in the UNSC ...and Germany no longer in the EU...

Michael
I 100% agree.

Lazer

Time is indeed running out .... not for the Russians but for the US and Nato ..... their troops are the ones that will have to deal with Albanian violence, not the Russians ...... Moscow knows it and likes the idea .... you get the picture?

Endri
I have not been in Serbian province Kosovo and Metohia, Maybe I’ll visit Kosovo and Metohia in the case I decide to invest my capital in business there. From my point of view as an investor I prefer stable government controlled by democratic government from Belgrade than chaos, considering that I do not care where my tax will go as long as my investment brings me a profit. I hope that you prefer bread and milk on your table than empty words of mafia leaders that own accounts with millions in foreign banks made on illegal drugs trade.
By the way, I am not “ovic”. I am proud Aussie and my descendants come to Australia a century ago. It is good that you stated that you are going nowhere from Kosovo, because it implies respect for Serbian constitution and low.

Endri
I have not been in Serbian province Kosovo and Metohia, Maybe I’ll visit Kosovo and Metohia in the case I decide to invest my capital in business there. From my point of view as an investor I prefer stable government controlled by democratic government from Belgrade than chaos, considering that I do not care where my tax will go as long as my investment brings me a profit. I hope that you prefer bread and milk on your table than empty words of mafia leaders that own accounts with millions in foreign banks made on illegal drugs trade.
By the way, I am not “ovic”. I am proud Aussie and my descendants come to Australia a century ago. It is good that you stated that you are going nowhere from Kosovo, because it implies respect for Serbian constitution and low.

Worlds majority - I wonder if he has considered the word of the 2 most populaous nations India and China or is he very selective as ever in his view on what a "world majority" actually means.

The soultion is simple for all to see that the it is the US and a 'few' European nations who have got themselves into a self made trap and they can quite easily solve this with an admission that they are in the wrong - Russia does not need to their bidding and it's withdrawal from CFE treay this morining means it is serious if others wish to escalate - Putin was blunt in Munich but was telling others to listen, now he is showing others that he is not talking mere words. The US & the 'few' Europeans really have plent on their plate in Iraq & Afghanistan (so called friends of the 80's) and need not walk into greater problems because they can't say they didn't hear or see the warning signs!

The world's majority is not a dozen European countries and America, and in fact these countries represent less then 20% of the world, so hardly a majority.

It looks like that there are no politicians in Serbia that will abandon Kosovo and Metohija. I have been in Serbia and spoke to ordinary Serbians. Each Serbian I spoke to emphasised that Kosovo and Metohija is unseparated part of one body – Serbia. So I learned that Albanians have its own country called Albania and nobody in Serbia will have objections if they decide to live back there. If they decide to stay in Serbia’s province Kosovo and Metohija than their choice automatically oblige them to respect Serbian’s constitution, low and order, similar to our approach in Australia.
Serbia like Australia needs friendship with US, but if it is based on mutual respect and relationship integrity only. Friendship is not based on fear or interest.
It looks like that president Kostunica is man of the principals and can’t be bought or threatened.
I am from Australia and personally would like to see our politicians strong enough to solve ongoing problems with Muslim community with the principal approach adopted by presidents Kostunica.

No Lazer, time is not running out for Serbia, Rather the other way around.

Why should this concern Serbia? well for one our people and property (which is all Kosovo) But take note that it is not Serbia who is threatening violence so this warning bares not meaning to us.

the EU is not our biggest concern and Serbs can wait to join, we hae other preasing matters to deal with besides just Kosovo. See unlike you we can see that the EU is not all that great and you have clearly been mislead.

So get the thought of Serbia ever letting Kosovo go or Kosovo ever getting independence.

You also seem to be mislead the quality of life in Serbia, LOL people in Serbia are very comfortable more so than many east bloc nations in the EU today. But thank you for your concern, Serbia works hard to get what and where it wants. We have set our goals (which we cannot tell you ;) our secret)

I am afraid your offer has been rejected, thank you have a nice day...I know I will.

Regards.

Violence by whom and AGAINST WHOM?It is obvious that there is no legal way to revoke the ownership deed Serbia was given back in 1912(way before Yugoslavia even existed and the drawing by Communists of pseudo borders) over the land but maybe it is time for all the Serbs to temporarily relocate to safe areas in the north.Can the Serbs in Bosnia wait any longer?1000 Russian nuclear weapons stationed in Belgrade and Kalinigrad would serve as a wake up call to the disrespectful arrogant secessionists everywhere in Europe trying to steal land without paying adequate compensation.The EU should get out the checkbook and start writing.

It is already clear this will not pass by many nations including Serbia and Russia at the UN Security Council.
No illegal independence and theft of Serbian heartland and state, and people of Kosovo get self rule.

Serwer is right...the US were not successful in the unlawful theft of serbian territory.

Albanians are the duped ones.

and once again they are reduced to violence or at least the threat of violence..since there is no moral, no legal and even no historical right of Albanians to take away this serbian province.

Time is running out, one Albanian here has written. I would say Time has already run out. The US is no longer in the chairmanship-position in the UNSC ...and Germany no longer in the EU...

Michael
I 100% agree.

Lazer

Time is indeed running out .... not for the Russians but for the US and Nato ..... their troops are the ones that will have to deal with Albanian violence, not the Russians ...... Moscow knows it and likes the idea .... you get the picture?

Listen, 'michael', for someone who has spent a 'century' in australia, you cant even spell 'law' right??

Anyway. To the point. Kosovo aims to attack any administrations entering kosovo, be it the sebian internal police or other serbian posts left behind after the war. That is what the KLA aims to fight against, aswell as probably attempting to scare off the serbs in mitrovica.

Now to the question on the fate of 'kosovo metohija'. I myself am a kosovar and have lived in the days when Tito was leader of yugoslavia. At the rate the union was growing, economically and militarily, it would today have been more powerful than the EU. Everyone was happy including the kosovars which had better jobs and a better life under the rule of Tito. However, When milosevic took power, he erupted something that tito fought for so long to keep control of; ethnic rivalry. From then on, all the members of yugoslavia fell one by one, and kosovo is the last domino to eventually fall. It is unfair that this ethnic rivalry has grown between the serbs and kosovars because they lived together with so much peace and worked together to build a stronger yougoslavia.

However, the policies of milosevic have given norms to many things, and ethnic rivalry can never again be held under control, especially when serbia attempted an ethnic cleansing in Kosovo, killing somewhat 7,000 innocent civilians.

How can there be any possible solution to this apart from an independent Kosovo?

Marsad

So, I found Albanian who is willing to teach me English language. With your level of English you should know difference between misspelling and mistyping. Misspelling is distinguished from other errors in writing, such as grammatical errors, incorrect capitalisation etc. Mate, typing Metohia instead of Metohija is misspelling. Would you like to teach me what is democracy too?

Mr. Mirsed, by stating that KLA is going to attack and bully the rest of Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija and being proud on that is not wise. You just uncovered real face of KLA.

I use to consider KLA as liberation army and just recently I discovered the truth. Hopefully other people will find out too, including all my mates (I can assure you there are many of them).

Time is running out. Its make it or break it!!!
It would benefit Serbia and Russia to go with the program.
Serbia should get new people to lead them to the bright future in EU and have good relations with US.
It will be no more shortages of goods, iether material or quality of life.
By nor cooperating Serbia is doing a very bad favor to its own people.
In the past, up to the time when the butcher of Balkans came to power Serbia has had very smart and witty politicians.
Its time to change the attitude NOW!!!

" I wonder if he has considered the word of the 2 most populaous nations India and China or is he very selective as ever in his view on what a "world majority" actually means. "

Seriously, what difference would that make? 2.5 billion vs 3.5 people who do recognize Kosova's independence. If China and India weren't such power hogs they'd have 300 other sitting nations at the UN alligned to their position and able to call any obstruction by their enemies. But NOOOOOO, like Serbia, they only want to swallow up other smaller nationalities and cultures into their own non-existent one and call themselves a 'democracy' for the 1% ruling class. Time for the world to recognize the smaller cultures and language groups of these godzilla nations that has no inherent indigenous one of their own.

michael have you ever been in Kosova or Albania?
an australian admiring Kostunica,weird,maybe normal for an australian called michaelovic.
And btw we are not going anywere.

I keep asking this question, and nobody ever has a viable response. "Who will the K_Albanians direct their violence at? Will they just shoot any human or animal they see? Will they cross into Mitrovica and ethnically cleanse the remaining Serbs? Will the KLA reunite and march on Belgrade? Will they fire at NATO/UN troops? Ouch! Please, would one Albanian familiar with the current atmosphere in Kosovo explain that. I would like to know.

By majority he means majorily important. Come on, do you expect India and Indonesia and such to decide on Kosova?

I hate to say it but Princip you are very naive. On todays politics the country with most dense population number means nothing, and this is through out history of mankind. numeber means nothing, but power, strenght, economics, updted military mchinare etc... has more power than a large number of inhabitants. For example; Switzerland is more powerful than India that you mentioned, in world arena of political cloud and so on.
Hey michael, I think you forgat the rest of Kosovar population to include in your solving approach,. You just mentuied muslims like we care that much about religion . Albanina s are of many different fates(muslim, roman catholic, orthodox, and other sects) and do not have any religious hang up.So stop using religion, becasue you are not convincing anybody on this one.

for anyone who propose's that albanians have a country, quite easily so does serbia so does greece, so how does cyprus, and other slavic balkans countries can but albanians cant....
coz your language is different or a variation? is it religion? isit culture? is it a mixture of all? are the bosnians muslim serbs? monetenegro?

I am very glad to hear that Michael learned that there is a country called Albania in his latest visit to Serbia. You learn a new thing everyday my friend. What are you going to learn next is anybody’s guess.

"democratic government from Belgrade"

Not only is this phrase moronic, but its also an oxymoron,ironic and sarcastic.
How can a democratic country which claims that its being stolen of 15% of its territory not allow the inhabitants of that territory, which make up around 20% of its citizens, vote for the supreme law of the land " the Constitution? Only in a moronic and perverse democracy like the one in Belgrade can a prime minister call a group of people as full-fledged citizens, and at the same time these full-fledged citizens are not allowed to vote for their constitution.
If this constitutes a democracy, then the definition of a democratic state must have changed.

Michael (Australia) wrote:"I use to consider KLA as liberation army and just recently I discovered the truth..."
It seems that you have a love adventure while you visited Serbia. That helped you to "discover the truth"