Whilst i welcome the FBIH statement it is about time that the Bosniaks who can only be of serb or croat anticeedance spent more time discovering that they are a european country and not part of some islamist agenda.
BiH is sovereign state and has its right fot free statements.
But, I wonder if it is free statement or statement under the pression from Bosnian Serbs and through them pression coming from Serbia...
We all know what BiH people think, feel and say about Kosovo because we have very bad common experience of crimes, rapes, ethnic cleaning done by Serbia and their local supporters. There is a hug solidarity between BiH and Kosovo.
I would be very happy when BiH focus on arrest of war criminals because victims and their families waits and deserve it. Kosovo status can be solved without direct engagement of BiH, but war criminals can not be arrested without direct engagament of BiH...
Good luck Kosovo and BiH
Kosovo but all of the Albanians are, the problem with huge no. of illeagal immigrants is also left idle and clearly they will all simply become citizens under Albanian leadership.
Statements similar to this remind me of " The Expulsion of the Albanians" written in 1937 by the Serbian Minister Cubrilovic. Even after these years I see the Serbs hold the same view. Even during communism when even sheep couldnt make it through the border supposedly illegal Albanian immigrants poured by the thousands in Kosovo/a.
It is views and statements like that that caused the war.
As long as those views persist, there will always be problems.
you are wrong dragan, bosnians are not our brothers!!! we have nothing in common with them. nothing relates us with them, nor language, history, tradition, culture... nothing. i know that you are referring to religion, but you are wrong. religion is very personal. i am of catholic religion origin, and for me brothers are all albanians of muslim origin. we have everything in common: language, history, tradition, culture... everything.
i think bosnian muslims are brothers with you serbs. you have everything in common, despite the fact that you fought against each other.
cheers,
(adi, Tuesday, 10 July, 2007, 16:00)
To adi - it's amazing how you state you're Catholic religion & all your brothers of albanians of muslim origin as you have SO much in common.
Don't think so. The only thing you have in common is being from Albania. That's it & that's all.
As a Catholic/Christian - one quote from the bible is to love your neighbor as yourself. What do you have to say now about your comment?
Vuk, this is the music the Albanians will eventually have to face if they want independence. As the saying goes, there's no such thing as a free lunch, and in this case, there's no such thing as a one-way solution. They want independence, they want to show the world they can manage the region better than the Serbs? Fine, now allow unconditional freedom of return for all displaced Serbs who wish to return along with full return of property and home, grant dual citizenship between Kosovo and Serbia for the Serbs, provide unfettered access for all Serbs to cities, towns, and monasteries, and establish a federated system where local Serb government is located in North Mitrovica and includes all Serb-held areas and enclaves south of the Ibar as well as autonomous zones around the main religious sites. If Team Kosova is willing to bend over backwards and make some considerable sacrifices to Team Kosovo for the sake of getting their state, then we can begin the serious negotiations. I do not think Serbia can hold on to Kosovo, but it can certainly extract a hefty price for letting it go, and allowing it to pass through the UN, thus avoiding the worst-case scenario of unilateral declaration no one but the extremists want.
The Bosniaks may be our brothers, but being that I am a Montenegrin from a mixed clan, I do consider Albanians to be my cousins as well. I'm Piperi, what are you?
Here's the thing, the Bosniaks know its in the best interest of the region to agree upon these sorts of territorial divisions in a peaceful and negotiated manner. They know full well how the Kosovo issue is solved will effect their country as well.
Vuk, you are right in that the Albanian population has no motivation in the past to truly consider partition as they had been promised full independence. However, its clear now that this has failed and its time to start over and look for a compromise that is acceptable (but not welcome) by both sides. It is obvious from recent comments from many Albanians that they would in fact consider partition at this point in time.
It is my hope that the Serbian government offer the Albanians as much as humaningly possible without giving up our people or those areas that represent the very cradle of our civilization.
I've put much thought into an earlier proposal by Mike. I agree that Pec and Decani should go to Montenegro! Relations between Albanians and Montenegrins seem to be at an all time high, and we share a clan system that might be able to function as a bridge between our two peoples. Joining Montenegro would give the citizens of Pec and Decani the most positive possible future, already property in Montenegro has gone up something like 400% in the last few years. Being that Montenegro is a tourist destination and already has Ostrog and some other important religious sites, adding Pec and Decani would be a natural expansion of that type of religious tourism. It also might help to bridge the current political divide between Serbia and Montenegro. Serbia needs to recognize that it was Montenegro that kept alive the idea of Kosovo and perserved our cultural and religious identity.
Montenegro could be the key to peace in the region, and we share much in common with everyone in the area.
Its only a matter of time b4 the terrorists start commiting their attacks again. US will try to shift blame to Russia but wont stick. Since alban attacks will be mainly directed against the US. Most important KLA + Al Quaida are going to stop independence. Simply because they want US attention on the balkans and away from where muslims need time. Especially in IRAN and IRAQ. So sorry to disapoint u but the people that are funing ur guerialla groups are the ones that r preventing Kosovos independence. Kosovo is and always will remain a part of Serbia. Its not like US is willing to bomb Serbia again. So this will last another 100 years or until we r all in the EU.
As for the article Bosnia realises that they will have trouble holding onto RS if Kosovo gains independence.
Very interesting point and i do see partition as the only "viable" solution but i severly doubt it will be implemented because the Albanians have absolutly no reason to compramise with Serbs since they have been promised independance and clearly care not for the future political isolation of Kosovo by many countries in Europe.
All of this leads to a ridicules situation where none of the Serbs are being allowed to return to Kosovo but all of the Albanians are, the problem with huge no. of illeagal immigrants is also left idle and clearly they will all simply become citizens under Albanian leadership.
The whole situation is a fiasco but leaves you wondering how Albanians think they can survive in Kosovo with millions of angry Serbs who have had a unbelievably important part of their country removed by force, not democracy or political discussion.
It appears that even the Serbian Muslims in Bosnia are anxious to attract a lot of those Russian petrodollars.A marriage of inconvenience between the 3 groups in Bosnia is slowly evolving into a marriage of accomodation.Bravo
you are wrong dragan, bosnians are not our brothers!!! we have nothing in common with them. nothing relates us with them, nor language, history, tradition, culture... nothing. i know that you are referring to religion, but you are wrong. religion is very personal. i am of catholic religion origin, and for me brothers are all albanians of muslim origin. we have everything in common: language, history, tradition, culture... everything.
i think bosnian muslims are brothers with you serbs. you have everything in common, despite the fact that you fought against each other.
It's good that the Bosnian Federation government thinks this. In the long run, I find that the Dayton Accords, while far from ideal, nevertheless stabilized the country to a degree, and I think Kosovo could follow a similar model. The one thing Pristina wants is independence, and if Belgrade acquiesces on this one stipulation, they can push for far more provisions and concessions than they can get now. I still think structuring Kosovo along a bi-zonal confederation of Albanian and Serb entities, like Bosnia, with regional governments would help much more than attempts to centralize Kosovo.
Well well well, what do the albanians say now? Their muslim brothers in bosnia are not supporting their drive for a greater albania.
Halilovic's statement that ripping out Kosovo from a sovereign state will not be a precedent is pure rubbish. It will be EXACTLY THAT, a precedent, and the Serbs in Republika Srpska will immediately declare independence if greater albania happens. As the saying goes, 'what's good for the goose, is good for the gander'.
Well well well, what do the albanians say now? Their muslim brothers in bosnia are not supporting their drive for a greater albania.
Halilovic's statement that ripping out Kosovo from a sovereign state will not be a precedent is pure rubbish. It will be EXACTLY THAT, a precedent, and the Serbs in Republika Srpska will immediately declare independence if greater albania happens. As the saying goes, 'what's good for the goose, is good for the gander'.
you are wrong dragan, bosnians are not our brothers!!! we have nothing in common with them. nothing relates us with them, nor language, history, tradition, culture... nothing. i know that you are referring to religion, but you are wrong. religion is very personal. i am of catholic religion origin, and for me brothers are all albanians of muslim origin. we have everything in common: language, history, tradition, culture... everything.
i think bosnian muslims are brothers with you serbs. you have everything in common, despite the fact that you fought against each other.
It's good that the Bosnian Federation government thinks this. In the long run, I find that the Dayton Accords, while far from ideal, nevertheless stabilized the country to a degree, and I think Kosovo could follow a similar model. The one thing Pristina wants is independence, and if Belgrade acquiesces on this one stipulation, they can push for far more provisions and concessions than they can get now. I still think structuring Kosovo along a bi-zonal confederation of Albanian and Serb entities, like Bosnia, with regional governments would help much more than attempts to centralize Kosovo.
It appears that even the Serbian Muslims in Bosnia are anxious to attract a lot of those Russian petrodollars.A marriage of inconvenience between the 3 groups in Bosnia is slowly evolving into a marriage of accomodation.Bravo
Very interesting point and i do see partition as the only "viable" solution but i severly doubt it will be implemented because the Albanians have absolutly no reason to compramise with Serbs since they have been promised independance and clearly care not for the future political isolation of Kosovo by many countries in Europe.
All of this leads to a ridicules situation where none of the Serbs are being allowed to return to Kosovo but all of the Albanians are, the problem with huge no. of illeagal immigrants is also left idle and clearly they will all simply become citizens under Albanian leadership.
The whole situation is a fiasco but leaves you wondering how Albanians think they can survive in Kosovo with millions of angry Serbs who have had a unbelievably important part of their country removed by force, not democracy or political discussion.
Vuk, this is the music the Albanians will eventually have to face if they want independence. As the saying goes, there's no such thing as a free lunch, and in this case, there's no such thing as a one-way solution. They want independence, they want to show the world they can manage the region better than the Serbs? Fine, now allow unconditional freedom of return for all displaced Serbs who wish to return along with full return of property and home, grant dual citizenship between Kosovo and Serbia for the Serbs, provide unfettered access for all Serbs to cities, towns, and monasteries, and establish a federated system where local Serb government is located in North Mitrovica and includes all Serb-held areas and enclaves south of the Ibar as well as autonomous zones around the main religious sites. If Team Kosova is willing to bend over backwards and make some considerable sacrifices to Team Kosovo for the sake of getting their state, then we can begin the serious negotiations. I do not think Serbia can hold on to Kosovo, but it can certainly extract a hefty price for letting it go, and allowing it to pass through the UN, thus avoiding the worst-case scenario of unilateral declaration no one but the extremists want.
Its only a matter of time b4 the terrorists start commiting their attacks again. US will try to shift blame to Russia but wont stick. Since alban attacks will be mainly directed against the US. Most important KLA + Al Quaida are going to stop independence. Simply because they want US attention on the balkans and away from where muslims need time. Especially in IRAN and IRAQ. So sorry to disapoint u but the people that are funing ur guerialla groups are the ones that r preventing Kosovos independence. Kosovo is and always will remain a part of Serbia. Its not like US is willing to bomb Serbia again. So this will last another 100 years or until we r all in the EU.
As for the article Bosnia realises that they will have trouble holding onto RS if Kosovo gains independence.
The Bosniaks may be our brothers, but being that I am a Montenegrin from a mixed clan, I do consider Albanians to be my cousins as well. I'm Piperi, what are you?
Here's the thing, the Bosniaks know its in the best interest of the region to agree upon these sorts of territorial divisions in a peaceful and negotiated manner. They know full well how the Kosovo issue is solved will effect their country as well.
Vuk, you are right in that the Albanian population has no motivation in the past to truly consider partition as they had been promised full independence. However, its clear now that this has failed and its time to start over and look for a compromise that is acceptable (but not welcome) by both sides. It is obvious from recent comments from many Albanians that they would in fact consider partition at this point in time.
It is my hope that the Serbian government offer the Albanians as much as humaningly possible without giving up our people or those areas that represent the very cradle of our civilization.
I've put much thought into an earlier proposal by Mike. I agree that Pec and Decani should go to Montenegro! Relations between Albanians and Montenegrins seem to be at an all time high, and we share a clan system that might be able to function as a bridge between our two peoples. Joining Montenegro would give the citizens of Pec and Decani the most positive possible future, already property in Montenegro has gone up something like 400% in the last few years. Being that Montenegro is a tourist destination and already has Ostrog and some other important religious sites, adding Pec and Decani would be a natural expansion of that type of religious tourism. It also might help to bridge the current political divide between Serbia and Montenegro. Serbia needs to recognize that it was Montenegro that kept alive the idea of Kosovo and perserved our cultural and religious identity.
Montenegro could be the key to peace in the region, and we share much in common with everyone in the area.
you are wrong dragan, bosnians are not our brothers!!! we have nothing in common with them. nothing relates us with them, nor language, history, tradition, culture... nothing. i know that you are referring to religion, but you are wrong. religion is very personal. i am of catholic religion origin, and for me brothers are all albanians of muslim origin. we have everything in common: language, history, tradition, culture... everything.
i think bosnian muslims are brothers with you serbs. you have everything in common, despite the fact that you fought against each other.
cheers,
(adi, Tuesday, 10 July, 2007, 16:00)
To adi - it's amazing how you state you're Catholic religion & all your brothers of albanians of muslim origin as you have SO much in common.
Don't think so. The only thing you have in common is being from Albania. That's it & that's all.
As a Catholic/Christian - one quote from the bible is to love your neighbor as yourself. What do you have to say now about your comment?
Kosovo but all of the Albanians are, the problem with huge no. of illeagal immigrants is also left idle and clearly they will all simply become citizens under Albanian leadership.
Statements similar to this remind me of " The Expulsion of the Albanians" written in 1937 by the Serbian Minister Cubrilovic. Even after these years I see the Serbs hold the same view. Even during communism when even sheep couldnt make it through the border supposedly illegal Albanian immigrants poured by the thousands in Kosovo/a.
It is views and statements like that that caused the war.
As long as those views persist, there will always be problems.
BiH is sovereign state and has its right fot free statements.
But, I wonder if it is free statement or statement under the pression from Bosnian Serbs and through them pression coming from Serbia...
We all know what BiH people think, feel and say about Kosovo because we have very bad common experience of crimes, rapes, ethnic cleaning done by Serbia and their local supporters. There is a hug solidarity between BiH and Kosovo.
I would be very happy when BiH focus on arrest of war criminals because victims and their families waits and deserve it. Kosovo status can be solved without direct engagement of BiH, but war criminals can not be arrested without direct engagament of BiH...
Good luck Kosovo and BiH
Whilst i welcome the FBIH statement it is about time that the Bosniaks who can only be of serb or croat anticeedance spent more time discovering that they are a european country and not part of some islamist agenda.
Well well well, what do the albanians say now? Their muslim brothers in bosnia are not supporting their drive for a greater albania.
Halilovic's statement that ripping out Kosovo from a sovereign state will not be a precedent is pure rubbish. It will be EXACTLY THAT, a precedent, and the Serbs in Republika Srpska will immediately declare independence if greater albania happens. As the saying goes, 'what's good for the goose, is good for the gander'.
you are wrong dragan, bosnians are not our brothers!!! we have nothing in common with them. nothing relates us with them, nor language, history, tradition, culture... nothing. i know that you are referring to religion, but you are wrong. religion is very personal. i am of catholic religion origin, and for me brothers are all albanians of muslim origin. we have everything in common: language, history, tradition, culture... everything.
i think bosnian muslims are brothers with you serbs. you have everything in common, despite the fact that you fought against each other.
It's good that the Bosnian Federation government thinks this. In the long run, I find that the Dayton Accords, while far from ideal, nevertheless stabilized the country to a degree, and I think Kosovo could follow a similar model. The one thing Pristina wants is independence, and if Belgrade acquiesces on this one stipulation, they can push for far more provisions and concessions than they can get now. I still think structuring Kosovo along a bi-zonal confederation of Albanian and Serb entities, like Bosnia, with regional governments would help much more than attempts to centralize Kosovo.
It appears that even the Serbian Muslims in Bosnia are anxious to attract a lot of those Russian petrodollars.A marriage of inconvenience between the 3 groups in Bosnia is slowly evolving into a marriage of accomodation.Bravo
Very interesting point and i do see partition as the only "viable" solution but i severly doubt it will be implemented because the Albanians have absolutly no reason to compramise with Serbs since they have been promised independance and clearly care not for the future political isolation of Kosovo by many countries in Europe.
All of this leads to a ridicules situation where none of the Serbs are being allowed to return to Kosovo but all of the Albanians are, the problem with huge no. of illeagal immigrants is also left idle and clearly they will all simply become citizens under Albanian leadership.
The whole situation is a fiasco but leaves you wondering how Albanians think they can survive in Kosovo with millions of angry Serbs who have had a unbelievably important part of their country removed by force, not democracy or political discussion.
Vuk, this is the music the Albanians will eventually have to face if they want independence. As the saying goes, there's no such thing as a free lunch, and in this case, there's no such thing as a one-way solution. They want independence, they want to show the world they can manage the region better than the Serbs? Fine, now allow unconditional freedom of return for all displaced Serbs who wish to return along with full return of property and home, grant dual citizenship between Kosovo and Serbia for the Serbs, provide unfettered access for all Serbs to cities, towns, and monasteries, and establish a federated system where local Serb government is located in North Mitrovica and includes all Serb-held areas and enclaves south of the Ibar as well as autonomous zones around the main religious sites. If Team Kosova is willing to bend over backwards and make some considerable sacrifices to Team Kosovo for the sake of getting their state, then we can begin the serious negotiations. I do not think Serbia can hold on to Kosovo, but it can certainly extract a hefty price for letting it go, and allowing it to pass through the UN, thus avoiding the worst-case scenario of unilateral declaration no one but the extremists want.
Its only a matter of time b4 the terrorists start commiting their attacks again. US will try to shift blame to Russia but wont stick. Since alban attacks will be mainly directed against the US. Most important KLA + Al Quaida are going to stop independence. Simply because they want US attention on the balkans and away from where muslims need time. Especially in IRAN and IRAQ. So sorry to disapoint u but the people that are funing ur guerialla groups are the ones that r preventing Kosovos independence. Kosovo is and always will remain a part of Serbia. Its not like US is willing to bomb Serbia again. So this will last another 100 years or until we r all in the EU.
As for the article Bosnia realises that they will have trouble holding onto RS if Kosovo gains independence.
The Bosniaks may be our brothers, but being that I am a Montenegrin from a mixed clan, I do consider Albanians to be my cousins as well. I'm Piperi, what are you?
Here's the thing, the Bosniaks know its in the best interest of the region to agree upon these sorts of territorial divisions in a peaceful and negotiated manner. They know full well how the Kosovo issue is solved will effect their country as well.
Vuk, you are right in that the Albanian population has no motivation in the past to truly consider partition as they had been promised full independence. However, its clear now that this has failed and its time to start over and look for a compromise that is acceptable (but not welcome) by both sides. It is obvious from recent comments from many Albanians that they would in fact consider partition at this point in time.
It is my hope that the Serbian government offer the Albanians as much as humaningly possible without giving up our people or those areas that represent the very cradle of our civilization.
I've put much thought into an earlier proposal by Mike. I agree that Pec and Decani should go to Montenegro! Relations between Albanians and Montenegrins seem to be at an all time high, and we share a clan system that might be able to function as a bridge between our two peoples. Joining Montenegro would give the citizens of Pec and Decani the most positive possible future, already property in Montenegro has gone up something like 400% in the last few years. Being that Montenegro is a tourist destination and already has Ostrog and some other important religious sites, adding Pec and Decani would be a natural expansion of that type of religious tourism. It also might help to bridge the current political divide between Serbia and Montenegro. Serbia needs to recognize that it was Montenegro that kept alive the idea of Kosovo and perserved our cultural and religious identity.
Montenegro could be the key to peace in the region, and we share much in common with everyone in the area.
you are wrong dragan, bosnians are not our brothers!!! we have nothing in common with them. nothing relates us with them, nor language, history, tradition, culture... nothing. i know that you are referring to religion, but you are wrong. religion is very personal. i am of catholic religion origin, and for me brothers are all albanians of muslim origin. we have everything in common: language, history, tradition, culture... everything.
i think bosnian muslims are brothers with you serbs. you have everything in common, despite the fact that you fought against each other.
cheers,
(adi, Tuesday, 10 July, 2007, 16:00)
To adi - it's amazing how you state you're Catholic religion & all your brothers of albanians of muslim origin as you have SO much in common.
Don't think so. The only thing you have in common is being from Albania. That's it & that's all.
As a Catholic/Christian - one quote from the bible is to love your neighbor as yourself. What do you have to say now about your comment?
Kosovo but all of the Albanians are, the problem with huge no. of illeagal immigrants is also left idle and clearly they will all simply become citizens under Albanian leadership.
Statements similar to this remind me of " The Expulsion of the Albanians" written in 1937 by the Serbian Minister Cubrilovic. Even after these years I see the Serbs hold the same view. Even during communism when even sheep couldnt make it through the border supposedly illegal Albanian immigrants poured by the thousands in Kosovo/a.
It is views and statements like that that caused the war.
As long as those views persist, there will always be problems.
BiH is sovereign state and has its right fot free statements.
But, I wonder if it is free statement or statement under the pression from Bosnian Serbs and through them pression coming from Serbia...
We all know what BiH people think, feel and say about Kosovo because we have very bad common experience of crimes, rapes, ethnic cleaning done by Serbia and their local supporters. There is a hug solidarity between BiH and Kosovo.
I would be very happy when BiH focus on arrest of war criminals because victims and their families waits and deserve it. Kosovo status can be solved without direct engagement of BiH, but war criminals can not be arrested without direct engagament of BiH...
Good luck Kosovo and BiH
Whilst i welcome the FBIH statement it is about time that the Bosniaks who can only be of serb or croat anticeedance spent more time discovering that they are a european country and not part of some islamist agenda.
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