Tadić: It was my duty to apologize

Did Tadic really meant it or it is just a political phrase? I hear that His Gov. are organising a Guard of voulenteers walking in Kosovo. How serious is his appology in Croatia when serbs are ready to start another clash in Kosovo.

Kosovo is not Croatia ;)

It's a basic responsibility of any goverment to protect it's territory and citizens. There is absolutely no reason to apologise for carrying out this basic function. In fact Serbia owes the Serbs from Croatia an apology for failing to protect them from the Croats who have a historical legacy of commiting genocide against the Serbian population of Krajina.

Serbia must now protect it's southern borders from encroachment by it's other ambitious neighbours. Come on Serbia where's your self respect ?

Serbia was completely justified in protecting the Serbs of the former Jugoslav republics. Try and imagine the British apologising for Falklands.

About the interview: I watched the rerun on Croatian TV last night. I'm not mr. Tadic's greatest supporter. But I must say he gave a very dignified and for Serbia positive interview. The journalist was provocative (impertinent questions about the wars, Milosevic and even Tadic's private life) but Tadic showed more intelligence than I expected from him.
It seems no commenters noticed, but the way the Croation journalist looked in the last shot was priceless: he obviously realised he got nowhere. Not a single smile...

Albano: Yes, there are some serbs organising a march. No, that doesn't mean 'Serbs' are ready to start another clash.
All this generalising... when mr. Kurti says crazy things in Kosovo, I don't think 'all' Albanians share his opinions. It would be good for starters if you try to do the same with Serbs.

As long as the Serbs ADMIT and apologize for their crimes and atrocities against helpless civilians during the war in Bosnia, the goal is achieved. If he had remorse, it is not of a capitale importance. Finally, the head of State of the Serbs ADMIT what was accomplished in the name of Serbia through war crininals that he also denounced and should be sent to the Hague, according to his plea.

Great achievement!

I think the Guard of Car Lazar if coming to Kosovo to apologise and build bridges between the two communites!!

Their aim is to provoke the albanians.

Albano - as we all know, Tadic has just taken a brave first step and the Croats also have many things to apologise for. Personally I think it was a good thing to do, and the other leaders in Croatia and Bosnia should also be prepared to follow suit. Terrible things were done on all sides.

As for Kosovo, there are barely any Serbs there at the moment to start any trouble as you predict; any clashes will be started by the Albanians and dealt with swiftly by the international forces.
The KLA was only temporarily legitimised for the purposes of Nato, and there is no need or acceptance for it to rise again.

Now is the time to move forward. It is far more important for the US to build a good relationship with the whole of Serbia than just the province of Kosovo. I am sure that it will help to oversee the highest level of autonomy and protection once the EU takes over.

I hope the croatians can also say sorry for the 400000 serbs they killed during World War 2.

Obviously ,if a Government is to protect its teritory and citizens , my guess is that this government needs to be on the ground,exactly on the toritory they want to protect. How can you protect your teritory from a distance? You are not controlling this part of "your" teritory any more nor it's citizens. All you can think of is sending a group of "manipulated patriots" in a very sensitive political period. Dont you think it is suicide for them and your Goverment to take such action?
If anything happens I'm curious to know what kind of appologies and justification will Tadic invent.

BK: So, does it mean that if Kosovo is not Croatia your Government can committ crimes and never appologise or.........

Will Croatia ever feel obligated to apologize? Why would they do so if they are insulated by the Vatican and the German Empire from facing the consequences of their history's mass transgressions? So, don't expect a reciprocated apology anytime soon if ever. After Croatia's national disgrace at the Thompson concert in Zagreb, all can assume that another jingoistic, xenophobic massacre is more likely to occur than an apology for something that the world has yet to accuse them of. Croatia will continue to "measure corn" with impunity.

In a contextless vacuum what Tadic said as a simple statement could be deemed innocuous. But, place it with some other statements that Tadic has made in the past and this seems to be the latest installment of his subtle sabotage of the Serbian nation. I'm not sure what the constitution states for his eligibility for reelection.

I am sorry but Vucic is 100% percent right. Croatia has not shown a grain of sympathy or remorse for it's genocide of Serbs during WW2 and ethnic cleansing of Serbs in the last war. In fact they even celebrate these events and their perpetrators openly. As shown by the huge number of people who turned up for the Ultranationalist-fascist concert in Zagreb, some in full Ustasa regailia.

An apology is a great thing to do-made in a general sense and not necessarily agreeing to specific numbers of casulaties for example. We all know that Balkan death numbers have been inflated in the past.

For example, recently research regarding missing and killed from the Bosnian War have drastically reduced the alleged scope of Bosniak and Croat accusations. To elaborate, Bosniaks were allocated about 32,000 civilan deaths/missing from the war. The study goes on to say that 89% of all casualties were men- which really sticks out if you ask me. Certainly many people fought in Bosnia to protect their families and homes without being members of an official army by picking up personally owned weapons and fighting as required in a grassroots manner. This would most likely cut a total of non-combatant male totals considerably. A portion of female deaths of 10% likely died this way to as there are some Balkan women who have been known to have also been elite guerilla fighters. (ie.snipers)

A further statistic of only 3,300 people under the age of 18 dead/missing also helps to refute the theory that the entire non-Serb population was targeted for extermination, as first of all that age group's casualties are spread across three ethnicities, it was well known that teenagers participated in the war, and that the small percentage does not lend itsef well to any theory of whole families being killed in any other way other than random occurances of an un-systematic nature.

Looks like the Bosnian War was a war mostly fought between men with random female and youth fatalities. There is no way that a systematic campaign to exterminate all non-Serbs could have taken place with 89% of all casualties being male and the figues for females and under 18s being so low and spread across three ethnicities.

I bet if a similar study was done for Croatia a very similar breakdown would be revealed.

If you are upset with his apology in Croatia wait until you hear what he has to say in Srebrenica. As far as the march about thirty or so people showed up in Zecan. If this was an Albanian celebration of such importance 100's of thousand would be marching. Once again we look foolish. God bless those who did walk for Vidovdan.

"As far as the march about thirty or so people showed up in Zecan. If this was an Albanian celebration of such importance 100's of thousand would be marching. Once again we look foolish. God bless those who did walk for Vidovdan."

Like I've been saying for some time: people here in Serbia care much less for Kosovo than politicians and fanatics think. Of course, go on the street and ask if Kosovo should be a part of Serbia. The vast majority will agree. But offer a choice: Would you move back to Kosovo? And very few will respond.

what about the croatians obligation to apologize when NATO and Croatia forced Serb civilians to run and also NATO SHOULD APOLIGIZE ALSO

MLKG:

I wouldn't move to Texas either, but that doesn't stop me from thinking that it shouldn't be allowed to ever secede from the USA.

An individual can only take responsibility for his own actions and if he feels remorse about something he did then he has the duty to apologize on his own behalf.All groups have their angels and demons and the Serbs have shown throughout European history that for the most part they as a whole have not been any worse than many other groups.It is high time to put the past behind and look to the future where wars will no longer exist in Europe.As far as Croatia is concerned- they were not owed any apology.

would the serbian population be willing to settle in kosovo if kosovo gets an autonomy??? If autonomy is granted, will there still be blessings for wariors in orthodox churches? Will there be a need for a ultra nationalist regime?
And forgive me if i am wrong but i have the feeling that the further away the serbs are from kosovo(outside serbia{diaspora}) the more they think they know what life is actually in kosovo about.
Ps: one more thing, autonomy comes with a 30% parliament seats in belgrade right?

Bravo, President Tadic! A voice of reason and professional and personal integrity. If your children and your children’s children are to live in peace and prosperity, steps need to be taken to move forward beyond the pain, suffering, name-calling (so often apparent on this site) and generational hatred by ALL the people of the Balkans.

It's a basic responsibility of any goverment to protect it's territory and citizens. There is absolutely no reason to apologise for carrying out this basic function. In fact Serbia owes the Serbs from Croatia an apology for failing to protect them from the Croats who have a historical legacy of commiting genocide against the Serbian population of Krajina.

Serbia must now protect it's southern borders from encroachment by it's other ambitious neighbours. Come on Serbia where's your self respect ?

Serbia was completely justified in protecting the Serbs of the former Jugoslav republics. Try and imagine the British apologising for Falklands.

I hope the croatians can also say sorry for the 400000 serbs they killed during World War 2.

Did Tadic really meant it or it is just a political phrase? I hear that His Gov. are organising a Guard of voulenteers walking in Kosovo. How serious is his appology in Croatia when serbs are ready to start another clash in Kosovo.

Kosovo is not Croatia ;)

About the interview: I watched the rerun on Croatian TV last night. I'm not mr. Tadic's greatest supporter. But I must say he gave a very dignified and for Serbia positive interview. The journalist was provocative (impertinent questions about the wars, Milosevic and even Tadic's private life) but Tadic showed more intelligence than I expected from him.
It seems no commenters noticed, but the way the Croation journalist looked in the last shot was priceless: he obviously realised he got nowhere. Not a single smile...

Albano: Yes, there are some serbs organising a march. No, that doesn't mean 'Serbs' are ready to start another clash.
All this generalising... when mr. Kurti says crazy things in Kosovo, I don't think 'all' Albanians share his opinions. It would be good for starters if you try to do the same with Serbs.

As long as the Serbs ADMIT and apologize for their crimes and atrocities against helpless civilians during the war in Bosnia, the goal is achieved. If he had remorse, it is not of a capitale importance. Finally, the head of State of the Serbs ADMIT what was accomplished in the name of Serbia through war crininals that he also denounced and should be sent to the Hague, according to his plea.

Great achievement!

I think the Guard of Car Lazar if coming to Kosovo to apologise and build bridges between the two communites!!

Their aim is to provoke the albanians.

Albano - as we all know, Tadic has just taken a brave first step and the Croats also have many things to apologise for. Personally I think it was a good thing to do, and the other leaders in Croatia and Bosnia should also be prepared to follow suit. Terrible things were done on all sides.

As for Kosovo, there are barely any Serbs there at the moment to start any trouble as you predict; any clashes will be started by the Albanians and dealt with swiftly by the international forces.
The KLA was only temporarily legitimised for the purposes of Nato, and there is no need or acceptance for it to rise again.

Now is the time to move forward. It is far more important for the US to build a good relationship with the whole of Serbia than just the province of Kosovo. I am sure that it will help to oversee the highest level of autonomy and protection once the EU takes over.

Obviously ,if a Government is to protect its teritory and citizens , my guess is that this government needs to be on the ground,exactly on the toritory they want to protect. How can you protect your teritory from a distance? You are not controlling this part of "your" teritory any more nor it's citizens. All you can think of is sending a group of "manipulated patriots" in a very sensitive political period. Dont you think it is suicide for them and your Goverment to take such action?
If anything happens I'm curious to know what kind of appologies and justification will Tadic invent.

BK: So, does it mean that if Kosovo is not Croatia your Government can committ crimes and never appologise or.........

Will Croatia ever feel obligated to apologize? Why would they do so if they are insulated by the Vatican and the German Empire from facing the consequences of their history's mass transgressions? So, don't expect a reciprocated apology anytime soon if ever. After Croatia's national disgrace at the Thompson concert in Zagreb, all can assume that another jingoistic, xenophobic massacre is more likely to occur than an apology for something that the world has yet to accuse them of. Croatia will continue to "measure corn" with impunity.

In a contextless vacuum what Tadic said as a simple statement could be deemed innocuous. But, place it with some other statements that Tadic has made in the past and this seems to be the latest installment of his subtle sabotage of the Serbian nation. I'm not sure what the constitution states for his eligibility for reelection.

I am sorry but Vucic is 100% percent right. Croatia has not shown a grain of sympathy or remorse for it's genocide of Serbs during WW2 and ethnic cleansing of Serbs in the last war. In fact they even celebrate these events and their perpetrators openly. As shown by the huge number of people who turned up for the Ultranationalist-fascist concert in Zagreb, some in full Ustasa regailia.

An apology is a great thing to do-made in a general sense and not necessarily agreeing to specific numbers of casulaties for example. We all know that Balkan death numbers have been inflated in the past.

For example, recently research regarding missing and killed from the Bosnian War have drastically reduced the alleged scope of Bosniak and Croat accusations. To elaborate, Bosniaks were allocated about 32,000 civilan deaths/missing from the war. The study goes on to say that 89% of all casualties were men- which really sticks out if you ask me. Certainly many people fought in Bosnia to protect their families and homes without being members of an official army by picking up personally owned weapons and fighting as required in a grassroots manner. This would most likely cut a total of non-combatant male totals considerably. A portion of female deaths of 10% likely died this way to as there are some Balkan women who have been known to have also been elite guerilla fighters. (ie.snipers)

A further statistic of only 3,300 people under the age of 18 dead/missing also helps to refute the theory that the entire non-Serb population was targeted for extermination, as first of all that age group's casualties are spread across three ethnicities, it was well known that teenagers participated in the war, and that the small percentage does not lend itsef well to any theory of whole families being killed in any other way other than random occurances of an un-systematic nature.

Looks like the Bosnian War was a war mostly fought between men with random female and youth fatalities. There is no way that a systematic campaign to exterminate all non-Serbs could have taken place with 89% of all casualties being male and the figues for females and under 18s being so low and spread across three ethnicities.

I bet if a similar study was done for Croatia a very similar breakdown would be revealed.

If you are upset with his apology in Croatia wait until you hear what he has to say in Srebrenica. As far as the march about thirty or so people showed up in Zecan. If this was an Albanian celebration of such importance 100's of thousand would be marching. Once again we look foolish. God bless those who did walk for Vidovdan.

"As far as the march about thirty or so people showed up in Zecan. If this was an Albanian celebration of such importance 100's of thousand would be marching. Once again we look foolish. God bless those who did walk for Vidovdan."

Like I've been saying for some time: people here in Serbia care much less for Kosovo than politicians and fanatics think. Of course, go on the street and ask if Kosovo should be a part of Serbia. The vast majority will agree. But offer a choice: Would you move back to Kosovo? And very few will respond.

what about the croatians obligation to apologize when NATO and Croatia forced Serb civilians to run and also NATO SHOULD APOLIGIZE ALSO

MLKG:

I wouldn't move to Texas either, but that doesn't stop me from thinking that it shouldn't be allowed to ever secede from the USA.

An individual can only take responsibility for his own actions and if he feels remorse about something he did then he has the duty to apologize on his own behalf.All groups have their angels and demons and the Serbs have shown throughout European history that for the most part they as a whole have not been any worse than many other groups.It is high time to put the past behind and look to the future where wars will no longer exist in Europe.As far as Croatia is concerned- they were not owed any apology.

would the serbian population be willing to settle in kosovo if kosovo gets an autonomy??? If autonomy is granted, will there still be blessings for wariors in orthodox churches? Will there be a need for a ultra nationalist regime?
And forgive me if i am wrong but i have the feeling that the further away the serbs are from kosovo(outside serbia{diaspora}) the more they think they know what life is actually in kosovo about.
Ps: one more thing, autonomy comes with a 30% parliament seats in belgrade right?

Bravo, President Tadic! A voice of reason and professional and personal integrity. If your children and your children’s children are to live in peace and prosperity, steps need to be taken to move forward beyond the pain, suffering, name-calling (so often apparent on this site) and generational hatred by ALL the people of the Balkans.