You Said > • A paedophile catholic priest or
• An orthodox priest that bless soldiers with machine guns.
The answer is > A paedophile catholic priest. There is no sicker crime in the world than crimes against children by trusted people like priest, doctors, teachers and so on.
You assume wrong. I am not religious. You know of the theory of evolution I'm sure. I do not have a church, neither do I have a country. I am a individual. What are you?
This article has NOTHING to do with Serbia at all. Trying to distract the issue isn't going to save your Church.
Personally, I am shocked that more Catholic's don't call for massive internal investigations to discover how wide spread the cover up actually is. If you don't do it soon, you risk the chance that it may be labeled a criminal organization at some point in the future and outlawed. Clearly the Vatican has violated the RICO act.
For decades in the US, Priests molesting Altar Boys has been the subject of numerous jokes and has been traditionally minimized and ignored. This is shameful.
Its time for the Vatican to open their archives on everything so we can see the truth on how they've handled this issue and so many others. No Church should be above the law.
• An orthodox priest that bless soldiers with machine guns before they commit the Srebrenica Massacre? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Srebrenica6.jpg )
John S - I assume you are a Catholic. Are you proud of your church, a church that requires it's victims to sign a "gagging order" to keep them quiet, and if the victim subsequently speaks out then they are ex-communicated.
that isn't an example of an individual committing a heinous crime but of a secretive institution willing to further punish the victims so that it can keep it's public image intact.
amazing how all the catholic commentators on this forum have suddenly gone quiet when i mention this contract which the catholic church uses.
You never ever heard of a Serbian priest involved in such a sickening crime, and this is not the first case of this kind of crime with priest in Croatia. Your comment's about a large percentage of Serb kids being molested by their parents is a LIE... You care to support this lie with some facts. This Croatian should be jailed for life!
I am apalled by your reaction. You did not even address the story which was written. All your comments are made in order to incite hatred with or without any knowledge of the facts of the issue being discussed. I won't repeat what was written in the article as I hope you are able to do that yourself. I am not sure of your backround but it is obvious that you are not willing to discuss any topic with maturity. Instead of addressing this the story and the alleged crime, you are out in left field somewhere. Many catholics would not commend this type of action and try and point out that supposedly this is happening elsewhere. I am not here to lambaste you but rather to ask why you do not address the issue at hand? Is hate your primary goal? I hope not. Wishing you all the best whereever you may be.
A large percentage?!! Let's compare the figures then to the Croatian statistics, shall we? Let's have some specifics.
Pedophelia in the Catholic church is well known, but I don't know if it is more frequent than in the general population. The problem is that it is the worst kind of transgression and betrayal of a child. However, the Catholic church is responsible for much, much worse -- murder for example; fascism for example; shall I bring up the "J" word?
A pedophile by any other name is still a pedophile and should be banished permanently from society.However,it does appear that due to its large size and its ban on male priests marrying the Catholic Church is a magnet for sick pedophiles.
Victor you can't comment on anything negative relating to Croatia or CAtholicism without also sullying either the Serbian nation or it's people. Yes, every nation and church has paedophiles but YOU being a catholic of all people should know that it is much more widespread among Catholic preachers than ay other. It's endemic in countries like Ireland and the USA to name but two. No doubt it's prevalent ina ll Catholic countries. I'll give you a tip. Start campaigning to alow your priests to have wives and the problems might be reduced somewhat. HAving said that, it won't stop the numerous padeophiles who have infiltrated the Catholic church specifically to abuse boys. The most shameful aspect of all this is that each succesive Pope, who calls himself God's messenger on earth, a) firstly denies there is aproblem, and b) tries to hide it.
If i were a cathlic i'd be questioning why i was a follower of this particular church because what kind of church requires it's victims to sign a document requiring total secrecy (crimen sollicitationis) and if the victim speaks to anybody about the abuse then they are excommunicated.
This is simply sick! These ppl shouldn't be allowed into any socio-political-religious organization, except prison! I hope Vatican has something to say... hmm...
Last year, I have read on B92 that a large percentage of Serb children are sexually molested by their father, their uncles or members of their family. Such abuses are frequent in all nations and all churches, and I agree that the abusers have to be treated with the most extreme severity of the law.
I hope the Croatian government will prosecute this criminal! There is no more heinous crime than that of a priest molesting boys or girls in the name of the Church. The government must also make sure that this priest doesn't try to flee the country or move to a new parish only to have these crimes repeated. In the US we had numerous cases of priests moving around.
I hope the Croatian government will prosecute this criminal! There is no more heinous crime than that of a priest molesting boys or girls in the name of the Church. The government must also make sure that this priest doesn't try to flee the country or move to a new parish only to have these crimes repeated. In the US we had numerous cases of priests moving around.
This is simply sick! These ppl shouldn't be allowed into any socio-political-religious organization, except prison! I hope Vatican has something to say... hmm...
Last year, I have read on B92 that a large percentage of Serb children are sexually molested by their father, their uncles or members of their family. Such abuses are frequent in all nations and all churches, and I agree that the abusers have to be treated with the most extreme severity of the law.
Victor you can't comment on anything negative relating to Croatia or CAtholicism without also sullying either the Serbian nation or it's people. Yes, every nation and church has paedophiles but YOU being a catholic of all people should know that it is much more widespread among Catholic preachers than ay other. It's endemic in countries like Ireland and the USA to name but two. No doubt it's prevalent ina ll Catholic countries. I'll give you a tip. Start campaigning to alow your priests to have wives and the problems might be reduced somewhat. HAving said that, it won't stop the numerous padeophiles who have infiltrated the Catholic church specifically to abuse boys. The most shameful aspect of all this is that each succesive Pope, who calls himself God's messenger on earth, a) firstly denies there is aproblem, and b) tries to hide it.
If i were a cathlic i'd be questioning why i was a follower of this particular church because what kind of church requires it's victims to sign a document requiring total secrecy (crimen sollicitationis) and if the victim speaks to anybody about the abuse then they are excommunicated.
A pedophile by any other name is still a pedophile and should be banished permanently from society.However,it does appear that due to its large size and its ban on male priests marrying the Catholic Church is a magnet for sick pedophiles.
A large percentage?!! Let's compare the figures then to the Croatian statistics, shall we? Let's have some specifics.
Pedophelia in the Catholic church is well known, but I don't know if it is more frequent than in the general population. The problem is that it is the worst kind of transgression and betrayal of a child. However, the Catholic church is responsible for much, much worse -- murder for example; fascism for example; shall I bring up the "J" word?
I am apalled by your reaction. You did not even address the story which was written. All your comments are made in order to incite hatred with or without any knowledge of the facts of the issue being discussed. I won't repeat what was written in the article as I hope you are able to do that yourself. I am not sure of your backround but it is obvious that you are not willing to discuss any topic with maturity. Instead of addressing this the story and the alleged crime, you are out in left field somewhere. Many catholics would not commend this type of action and try and point out that supposedly this is happening elsewhere. I am not here to lambaste you but rather to ask why you do not address the issue at hand? Is hate your primary goal? I hope not. Wishing you all the best whereever you may be.
You never ever heard of a Serbian priest involved in such a sickening crime, and this is not the first case of this kind of crime with priest in Croatia. Your comment's about a large percentage of Serb kids being molested by their parents is a LIE... You care to support this lie with some facts. This Croatian should be jailed for life!
John S - I assume you are a Catholic. Are you proud of your church, a church that requires it's victims to sign a "gagging order" to keep them quiet, and if the victim subsequently speaks out then they are ex-communicated.
that isn't an example of an individual committing a heinous crime but of a secretive institution willing to further punish the victims so that it can keep it's public image intact.
amazing how all the catholic commentators on this forum have suddenly gone quiet when i mention this contract which the catholic church uses.
• An orthodox priest that bless soldiers with machine guns before they commit the Srebrenica Massacre? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Srebrenica6.jpg )
This article has NOTHING to do with Serbia at all. Trying to distract the issue isn't going to save your Church.
Personally, I am shocked that more Catholic's don't call for massive internal investigations to discover how wide spread the cover up actually is. If you don't do it soon, you risk the chance that it may be labeled a criminal organization at some point in the future and outlawed. Clearly the Vatican has violated the RICO act.
For decades in the US, Priests molesting Altar Boys has been the subject of numerous jokes and has been traditionally minimized and ignored. This is shameful.
Its time for the Vatican to open their archives on everything so we can see the truth on how they've handled this issue and so many others. No Church should be above the law.
You assume wrong. I am not religious. You know of the theory of evolution I'm sure. I do not have a church, neither do I have a country. I am a individual. What are you?
You Said > • A paedophile catholic priest or
• An orthodox priest that bless soldiers with machine guns.
The answer is > A paedophile catholic priest. There is no sicker crime in the world than crimes against children by trusted people like priest, doctors, teachers and so on.
I hope the Croatian government will prosecute this criminal! There is no more heinous crime than that of a priest molesting boys or girls in the name of the Church. The government must also make sure that this priest doesn't try to flee the country or move to a new parish only to have these crimes repeated. In the US we had numerous cases of priests moving around.
This is simply sick! These ppl shouldn't be allowed into any socio-political-religious organization, except prison! I hope Vatican has something to say... hmm...
Last year, I have read on B92 that a large percentage of Serb children are sexually molested by their father, their uncles or members of their family. Such abuses are frequent in all nations and all churches, and I agree that the abusers have to be treated with the most extreme severity of the law.
Victor you can't comment on anything negative relating to Croatia or CAtholicism without also sullying either the Serbian nation or it's people. Yes, every nation and church has paedophiles but YOU being a catholic of all people should know that it is much more widespread among Catholic preachers than ay other. It's endemic in countries like Ireland and the USA to name but two. No doubt it's prevalent ina ll Catholic countries. I'll give you a tip. Start campaigning to alow your priests to have wives and the problems might be reduced somewhat. HAving said that, it won't stop the numerous padeophiles who have infiltrated the Catholic church specifically to abuse boys. The most shameful aspect of all this is that each succesive Pope, who calls himself God's messenger on earth, a) firstly denies there is aproblem, and b) tries to hide it.
If i were a cathlic i'd be questioning why i was a follower of this particular church because what kind of church requires it's victims to sign a document requiring total secrecy (crimen sollicitationis) and if the victim speaks to anybody about the abuse then they are excommunicated.
A pedophile by any other name is still a pedophile and should be banished permanently from society.However,it does appear that due to its large size and its ban on male priests marrying the Catholic Church is a magnet for sick pedophiles.
A large percentage?!! Let's compare the figures then to the Croatian statistics, shall we? Let's have some specifics.
Pedophelia in the Catholic church is well known, but I don't know if it is more frequent than in the general population. The problem is that it is the worst kind of transgression and betrayal of a child. However, the Catholic church is responsible for much, much worse -- murder for example; fascism for example; shall I bring up the "J" word?
I am apalled by your reaction. You did not even address the story which was written. All your comments are made in order to incite hatred with or without any knowledge of the facts of the issue being discussed. I won't repeat what was written in the article as I hope you are able to do that yourself. I am not sure of your backround but it is obvious that you are not willing to discuss any topic with maturity. Instead of addressing this the story and the alleged crime, you are out in left field somewhere. Many catholics would not commend this type of action and try and point out that supposedly this is happening elsewhere. I am not here to lambaste you but rather to ask why you do not address the issue at hand? Is hate your primary goal? I hope not. Wishing you all the best whereever you may be.
You never ever heard of a Serbian priest involved in such a sickening crime, and this is not the first case of this kind of crime with priest in Croatia. Your comment's about a large percentage of Serb kids being molested by their parents is a LIE... You care to support this lie with some facts. This Croatian should be jailed for life!
John S - I assume you are a Catholic. Are you proud of your church, a church that requires it's victims to sign a "gagging order" to keep them quiet, and if the victim subsequently speaks out then they are ex-communicated.
that isn't an example of an individual committing a heinous crime but of a secretive institution willing to further punish the victims so that it can keep it's public image intact.
amazing how all the catholic commentators on this forum have suddenly gone quiet when i mention this contract which the catholic church uses.
• An orthodox priest that bless soldiers with machine guns before they commit the Srebrenica Massacre? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Srebrenica6.jpg )
This article has NOTHING to do with Serbia at all. Trying to distract the issue isn't going to save your Church.
Personally, I am shocked that more Catholic's don't call for massive internal investigations to discover how wide spread the cover up actually is. If you don't do it soon, you risk the chance that it may be labeled a criminal organization at some point in the future and outlawed. Clearly the Vatican has violated the RICO act.
For decades in the US, Priests molesting Altar Boys has been the subject of numerous jokes and has been traditionally minimized and ignored. This is shameful.
Its time for the Vatican to open their archives on everything so we can see the truth on how they've handled this issue and so many others. No Church should be above the law.
You assume wrong. I am not religious. You know of the theory of evolution I'm sure. I do not have a church, neither do I have a country. I am a individual. What are you?
You Said > • A paedophile catholic priest or
• An orthodox priest that bless soldiers with machine guns.
The answer is > A paedophile catholic priest. There is no sicker crime in the world than crimes against children by trusted people like priest, doctors, teachers and so on.
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