NATO: Members to “act individually” on Kosovo

When I read the title on the most of the serbian newspapers, I get upset, until I read the content, to discover that has nothing to do with the title… just like in this case. Princip, Jovan, Kate and band… wake up, open your eyes and read the content of your newspapers in order to find some “truth” in it (reading between lines perhaps). I understand that you would still like to “keep” Kosova, but realize that’s simply not possible any longer, since 1999.

Ahtisaari 'Lite' - Zero BS, 100% Serbian State!!!

Even the EU are stating the obious - they will only accept the foundations of an Ahtisaari proposal regarding the functioning of the Serbian province but there will be no Independence since they respect only what can be accepted in the UN.

So the question is when is Bush going to push the folly through see as he says it must be now!!!

Albanians have a tendency to put gold buttons on a torn coat. I am sure that most of you remember, or have read when some years ago during the Nikita Khrushchev era Albanians sang odes to Uncle Joe Stalin. Albania was the only Stalinist nation other than China who played lip service to him. They even went further and invited China to install ballistic missiles in Albania. Today we have Albanians cheering on a religious zealot George Bush who is killing their Muslim brothers in Iraq and Afghanistan and here is why:

Clinton: “If we're going to have a strong economic relationship that includes our ability to sell around the world, Europe has got to be a key.... That's what this Kosovo thing is all about."
KLA a Kosovo history according to them:
“As Germany overtook Yugoslavia in 1941, the Kosovar people were liberated by the Germans. All Albanian territories of this state, such as Kosova, western Macedonia and border regions under Montenegro, were re-united into Albania proper. Albanian schools, governmental administration, press and radio were re-established”
Becir Hoti, quoted in the NY Times in 1982:''The nationalists have a two-point platform, first to establish what they call an ethnically clean Albanian republic and then the merger with Albania to form a greater Albania."

So the EU position is clear. It all comes down to the USA and Russia now to decide Kosovo's fate. Now we know why the Americans are so desperate to gain Russian approval - they are isolated on this issue. I suspect that the Russians will extract a heavy price for Kosovo's independence which is why i don't see Kosovo gaining legal independence.

Good sources Walter, it really places an historical account on the illegal attempts that the ethnic-Albanians are still pursuing nearly 30 years on!!! Maybe NY Times needs reminding of their earlier journalistic professionalism!

You know, all this UNSC dependency will cause Albanians to re-examine themselves and ask a question: what have struggled for in the past 90 years? The answer will come as a surprise to Prishtina's political class, and they will be forced to raise the stakes: Albania will be enlarged should the principle of 'division of WW1 spoils' continue to stand.

The west stands a better chance of preserving world worder by severing 10-15% of Serbia's territory:)

In this case, simply one veto from Russia or even more then one (China) would end this issue according to these people and the Albanians should live with self-rule in Serbia.

“With Kosovo’s future in mind, we call for a resolution as an unambiguous legal and political decision,” she stressed.

Well there goes the EU. So its the US and Albania. I doubt you will be able to keep US without the EU.

Its obvious that NATO could not take Kosovo from us. You think you will?

predictor: are you really sure that you are the one to call others to wake up?

isn´t it the Albanians who are cheering only because he said what they wanted to hear from him? I mean, do you seriously think the US can deliver?

once again, who is the one who should wake up?

and to the other albanian commentor who is using smiley´s... let´s see, I think your smile will fade away... let´s see!

out of 8 coments so far all you hear is ; folly and molly and you know the rest is copy and paste. GOD DAM IS SO PATHETICH THAT EVEN B92 DOES NOT PRINT MY COMMENTS ABOUT princip and his alikes. GROW UP PEOPLE nad look at real wold, because KOSOVA is INDEPENDENT. I hope b92 does not print my comments as usuall, whenever I hit on gavrillo princip b92 tend to not print my comments. I know he works for the b92 and he makes a living on copy and paste.

Cvele,

You live in complete denyal of reality when you write "NATO could not take Kosovo from us". If you think that nothing happened in 1999 than you are a "unique" case.

ahmet:

better copy and paste then complete nonsense, right? =)

how many comments written by me were not posted, just because I wrote what is obvious...

those admins here would like to keep it low, since this is a certain kind of entertainment for the most ( for me too, actually ) but, writing what I think about the kla or those illyrian phanasies seems to be "too hot" to be posted here...

instead of that YOU are allowed to write in a racist-manner ( about Serbs to go back to "sibira" "where they come from" ...)

any questions?

How can Bush so easily say Kosovo will be 'independent' when this man can't even locate Serbia on a map? This man can't even read a written speech for him yet have he can have the authority to take 12-15% of Serbia's land. What kind of democracy are we living in the States? When Americans wonder why Europeans hate them so much Kosovo should be an example, America doesn't know the history/culture yet can 'butt' in for 2 minutes and say 'independence, let's move on'. Our rich and long history in Kosovo is worth more time and consideration then the USs' injustice towards all Serbs.

The prospect of giving Kosovo to the Albanians post NATO war was always on the table with Clinton, in fact he wanted to do that but psycho President Milosevic would have none of it! In fact he refused to pull his troops from Kosovo unless there was assurances that Kosovo shall remain Serbian. And Clinton knew he could not bomb Serbia for much longer and that there would have to be a ground invasion of Serbia unless Milosevic gave up, there was no way NATO wanted to fight the Serbs on the ground, if they had it would have been much worse then what is going on in Iraq now, so Clinton made sure that in resolution 1244 it clearly stated that Kosovo remain Serbian. My question is to the Albanians if NATO could not take Kosovo away from the Serbs what make you think you can?

You Serb guys fail to capture Bush visit significance to Albanians of Republic of Albania. USA for us equals ideals of democracy, peace, and freedom. Stick it to your minds. We greeted Bush not for Kosovo, Kosovo is Albanian long before Slav settlers came from Urals? Years didn't change it. As I have said before in this blog, Serbia is deteriorating its position on long-term basis.

Maybe Kosovo should not be Serbian or Albanian? Maybe it should just be an EU Statelet? Where the region is governed totally by the EU, financed by the EU, and given all the privelages of being an EU nation. Serbs and Albanians, as citizens of Europe, can freely roam the EU nation of Kosovo. just say one nasty word, and you will be breaking EU laws....I could see that, and it would serve both sides justice.

Resolution 1244. Who is "special"?

Kosova has been indenpendent from Serbia since 1999. JNA and MUP left Kosova not as a victor but as a looser. NATO and US forces are the ruling force-not JNA, MUP or Russian army. Now that the US has openly suported independence there is no going back (eventhough there was no going back even before this).
Therefore, Serbia should be very cautious and work with the new neighbour Kosova, if it really wants to help their serb minority and the religious sites in Kosova. If not, than it will be obvious to all that Serbia never really wanted to help Kosva serbs. The serb minority will feel betrayed, used, and cheated. I mean if Serbia followed Stambolic and not Milosevic Kosova would most likely be still called Kosovo and still be a part of Serbia. Serbian people chose to follow Milosevic's path to myth of Car Lazar and thought that Milosevic is the reincarnation of Car Lazar. The only diference was to be that the later (Milosevic) was to dwell on earth and not follow the kingdom of heaven. Well, you know what happens to earthly saints, they are usually psychopaths that harm others but do more harm to their own. Remember people, Serbia supported Milosevic. So, instead of asking or dramatizing the loss of Kosovo they should understand that they parttook on the defeat the moment they turned their blind eye to ethnic clensing and opened the imaginary ears to remote stories and unrealistic dreams.

Victor, you twist and turn like a Dervish dancer on a pinhead refusing to answer the questions put to you. You skulk from one article to another. You refuse to touch the Muslim - Croat conflict of 1993 which killed thousands which was relegated to a few seconds by the Western Medias to the bridge in Mostar falling into the River Neretva. When your arguments fail to meet the test of evidence you go back to Srebrenica which also fails on evidence. The number of Serbs killed by Muslims in and around Srebrenica and the number of Muslims killed by Serbs in retaliation at Srebrenica is a moot point. In most cases including Vukovar revenge was the motive.
There is no evidence of genocide in the wars in Yugoslavia. This was a civil war started by Slovenes, Croats, Muslims and Albanians with the help of NATO. If Serbs can be blamed for the war blame them for what they attempted to do which was to save Yugoslavia from disintegration. If Serbs wanted a Greater Serbia they could have had it after WWI and WWII but they opted out for the pre WWI Croatian idea called Yugoslavia. If Croatia had attempted to seek independence after the two wars they would have had Zagreb and its environs and the rest would have been given to Serbia. More Serbs died for Croatian nationhood than Croats. .
As for Kosovo, the KLA, a terrorist organization was killing innocent, Serbs and Albanians They did not care who they killed as long as they provoked the security forces into retaliation. The security forces responded, with force. I remember the Western Media called it disproportionate, but a rumor of a terrorist attack on Heathrow Airport Blair brought out the tanks, armored cars and snipers. It is OK for Britain to use tanks and guns at Heathrow and Ireland but not for Yugoslavia in Kosovo. What a joke! The number of persons killed in Kosovo was about two thousands. NATO fabricated the numbers saying thousands slaughtered but investigators went everywhere in Kosovo after NATO came in and only found Serb and Albanian individual graves numbering some two thousand. More people died as a result of NATO bombs than the civil war. . .
Milosevic was accused of genocide in Kosovo but this failed the test at The Hague so NATO added Bosnia and Croatia to his crimes. How ironic when he brokered five peace agreements to end the conflict which Muslims and Croats broke.
This was an economic war not a humanitarian one. America bombing campaign was one more step in a long history of American and British “foreign interventions, none of which, to that point (or since) have had anything to do with humanitarianism, and everything to do with securing economic advantage for investors, or safeguarding existing investments from expropriation by economic nationalist, socialist or communist regimes” Give me one example of a war that USA and Britain went into for humanitarian reasons Americans and Britons had never gone to war for altruistic reasons even including WWII. Britain and France did everything to arm Hitler in hopes that he would turn his forces against Russia, but instead Hitler turned his army westward. It was Russian blood and American “spork” and “spam” that saved us from the Nazis in Zagreb, Sarajevo and Tirana.
What Victor refuses to see was “that the Clinton administration had issued an ultimatum to Milosevic: allow NATO forces to occupy your country, and let us revamp the economy of Kosovo to be run along free market lines. Milosevic refused the ultimatum, and the bombing began” Furthermore, Milosevic was a socialist which in America is feared even though their army, schools, fire department, highways, transport, and so on are all run on the socialist principle they wanted to eliminate “largely socially and publicly owned economy [of Yugoslavia] that didn't present many money-making opportunities to investors in the West”
Yugoslavia was a major armaments producer and a competitor of America. The armament factories were the first to go in the NATO attack on Yugoslavia. NATO wanted to expand into Yugoslavia which Milosevic refused. By refusing to join NATO Yugoslavia was out of the market for NATO military equipment which every NATO nation must purchase from America.
Even though Yugoslavia was economically a third rate power its strategic location was important. By eliminating Yugoslavia all others in the Balkans became client states of America “its governments transformed into neo-liberal Quislings, its economies privatized, and it’s socially and publicly owned assets sold-off to the highest bidder at knockdown prices.” Milosevic was killed because he dared say no to global American agenda. The Balkan nations are like Pavlov’s dogs under US control and American capital. If you saw pictures of George in Tirana you could have drowned in saliva. I can understand how people like Victor wallow in nationalistic ignorance but the tragedy of the Yugoslav idea has been destroyed by the American imperialist mission “which was accomplished, with many liberals, progressive and leftists having cheered on the perpetrators”
If you have a response Victor I would like to hear it. Victor it is much easier to write when you don’t need to invent. By the way Victor when will you be leaving Vancouver where we have a large Asian community? I just read an editorial in the Indo Canadian Voice, written by the fundamentalist editor who supports independence for Punjab (Khalistan) which is now a province of India that all the whites should move beyond Hope. You think that is a good idea or are you already beyond hope??

Just a simple question:

If Serbia retains Kosovo, just exactly how do they plan on controlling it?

I'm not trying to be antagonistic. I don't have an opinion either way. But it does seem like Serbia is in dire straights - am I right? What am I missing?

With an army that is no-more, an economy in shreds, and a large percentage of their people in denial about their own crimes during the 90's, how do they plan on funding the development and promoting the reconciliation that is required to make Kosovo a unitary part of Serbia?

Please advise.

To: silly-me

Serbia des not want to control Kosovo, why is this s hard for people to understand. Albania would have self rule, Serbia just wants to prevent the land from being stolen.

Hey canadian, you have not said a dam thing how serbia intends to have control and/or run Kosova. Maybe Princip, Jovan, Svojegazda, Kate and others can help you to answer silly-me.
Message to Walter: Arabians are not our brothers and i could care less for Arabs. They are serbian friends not ours. Sadam Hysein was Milosheviqs best friend along with other rouge Arabian countries.
Getting back to subject ; 99% of NATO members would recognize Kosova's Independence.

A response to Walter-"ic".

Here are some of the funniest things I have read so far.

"If Serbs can be blamed for the war blame them for what they attempted to do which was to save Yugoslavia from disintegration".

"By refusing to join NATO Yugoslavia ..."

"Milosevic was accused of genocide in Kosovo but this failed the test at The Hague".

This is the best:
"Yugoslavia was a major armaments producer and a competitor of America."

Silly-Me: Exactly, which is why a partition of Kosovo makes perfect sense from my perspective. split Kosovo and everyone can move on. One thing i do agree with the albanians on is the issue of when a decision will be made either way. Neither Serbia or Kosovo can move forward whilst Kosovo is in limbo. A decision needs to be made to so that politicians minds can be focused on improving the economies and living standards.

pb
Since you are on the subject of division,WHY don't we just simply divide big bad serbian by allowing all of it's minorities independence which would then remain a true state where only the serbians predominate and we can live happyly ever after!I thought so,Kosova already agreed to not join Albania in return for recogization within her current borders. No division period!

When I read the title on the most of the serbian newspapers, I get upset, until I read the content, to discover that has nothing to do with the title… just like in this case. Princip, Jovan, Kate and band… wake up, open your eyes and read the content of your newspapers in order to find some “truth” in it (reading between lines perhaps). I understand that you would still like to “keep” Kosova, but realize that’s simply not possible any longer, since 1999.

Ahtisaari 'Lite' - Zero BS, 100% Serbian State!!!

Even the EU are stating the obious - they will only accept the foundations of an Ahtisaari proposal regarding the functioning of the Serbian province but there will be no Independence since they respect only what can be accepted in the UN.

So the question is when is Bush going to push the folly through see as he says it must be now!!!

Albanians have a tendency to put gold buttons on a torn coat. I am sure that most of you remember, or have read when some years ago during the Nikita Khrushchev era Albanians sang odes to Uncle Joe Stalin. Albania was the only Stalinist nation other than China who played lip service to him. They even went further and invited China to install ballistic missiles in Albania. Today we have Albanians cheering on a religious zealot George Bush who is killing their Muslim brothers in Iraq and Afghanistan and here is why:

Clinton: “If we're going to have a strong economic relationship that includes our ability to sell around the world, Europe has got to be a key.... That's what this Kosovo thing is all about."
KLA a Kosovo history according to them:
“As Germany overtook Yugoslavia in 1941, the Kosovar people were liberated by the Germans. All Albanian territories of this state, such as Kosova, western Macedonia and border regions under Montenegro, were re-united into Albania proper. Albanian schools, governmental administration, press and radio were re-established”
Becir Hoti, quoted in the NY Times in 1982:''The nationalists have a two-point platform, first to establish what they call an ethnically clean Albanian republic and then the merger with Albania to form a greater Albania."

So the EU position is clear. It all comes down to the USA and Russia now to decide Kosovo's fate. Now we know why the Americans are so desperate to gain Russian approval - they are isolated on this issue. I suspect that the Russians will extract a heavy price for Kosovo's independence which is why i don't see Kosovo gaining legal independence.

Good sources Walter, it really places an historical account on the illegal attempts that the ethnic-Albanians are still pursuing nearly 30 years on!!! Maybe NY Times needs reminding of their earlier journalistic professionalism!

You know, all this UNSC dependency will cause Albanians to re-examine themselves and ask a question: what have struggled for in the past 90 years? The answer will come as a surprise to Prishtina's political class, and they will be forced to raise the stakes: Albania will be enlarged should the principle of 'division of WW1 spoils' continue to stand.

The west stands a better chance of preserving world worder by severing 10-15% of Serbia's territory:)

In this case, simply one veto from Russia or even more then one (China) would end this issue according to these people and the Albanians should live with self-rule in Serbia.

“With Kosovo’s future in mind, we call for a resolution as an unambiguous legal and political decision,” she stressed.

Well there goes the EU. So its the US and Albania. I doubt you will be able to keep US without the EU.

Its obvious that NATO could not take Kosovo from us. You think you will?

predictor: are you really sure that you are the one to call others to wake up?

isn´t it the Albanians who are cheering only because he said what they wanted to hear from him? I mean, do you seriously think the US can deliver?

once again, who is the one who should wake up?

and to the other albanian commentor who is using smiley´s... let´s see, I think your smile will fade away... let´s see!

out of 8 coments so far all you hear is ; folly and molly and you know the rest is copy and paste. GOD DAM IS SO PATHETICH THAT EVEN B92 DOES NOT PRINT MY COMMENTS ABOUT princip and his alikes. GROW UP PEOPLE nad look at real wold, because KOSOVA is INDEPENDENT. I hope b92 does not print my comments as usuall, whenever I hit on gavrillo princip b92 tend to not print my comments. I know he works for the b92 and he makes a living on copy and paste.

Cvele,

You live in complete denyal of reality when you write "NATO could not take Kosovo from us". If you think that nothing happened in 1999 than you are a "unique" case.

ahmet:

better copy and paste then complete nonsense, right? =)

how many comments written by me were not posted, just because I wrote what is obvious...

those admins here would like to keep it low, since this is a certain kind of entertainment for the most ( for me too, actually ) but, writing what I think about the kla or those illyrian phanasies seems to be "too hot" to be posted here...

instead of that YOU are allowed to write in a racist-manner ( about Serbs to go back to "sibira" "where they come from" ...)

any questions?

How can Bush so easily say Kosovo will be 'independent' when this man can't even locate Serbia on a map? This man can't even read a written speech for him yet have he can have the authority to take 12-15% of Serbia's land. What kind of democracy are we living in the States? When Americans wonder why Europeans hate them so much Kosovo should be an example, America doesn't know the history/culture yet can 'butt' in for 2 minutes and say 'independence, let's move on'. Our rich and long history in Kosovo is worth more time and consideration then the USs' injustice towards all Serbs.

The prospect of giving Kosovo to the Albanians post NATO war was always on the table with Clinton, in fact he wanted to do that but psycho President Milosevic would have none of it! In fact he refused to pull his troops from Kosovo unless there was assurances that Kosovo shall remain Serbian. And Clinton knew he could not bomb Serbia for much longer and that there would have to be a ground invasion of Serbia unless Milosevic gave up, there was no way NATO wanted to fight the Serbs on the ground, if they had it would have been much worse then what is going on in Iraq now, so Clinton made sure that in resolution 1244 it clearly stated that Kosovo remain Serbian. My question is to the Albanians if NATO could not take Kosovo away from the Serbs what make you think you can?

You Serb guys fail to capture Bush visit significance to Albanians of Republic of Albania. USA for us equals ideals of democracy, peace, and freedom. Stick it to your minds. We greeted Bush not for Kosovo, Kosovo is Albanian long before Slav settlers came from Urals? Years didn't change it. As I have said before in this blog, Serbia is deteriorating its position on long-term basis.

Maybe Kosovo should not be Serbian or Albanian? Maybe it should just be an EU Statelet? Where the region is governed totally by the EU, financed by the EU, and given all the privelages of being an EU nation. Serbs and Albanians, as citizens of Europe, can freely roam the EU nation of Kosovo. just say one nasty word, and you will be breaking EU laws....I could see that, and it would serve both sides justice.

Resolution 1244. Who is "special"?

Kosova has been indenpendent from Serbia since 1999. JNA and MUP left Kosova not as a victor but as a looser. NATO and US forces are the ruling force-not JNA, MUP or Russian army. Now that the US has openly suported independence there is no going back (eventhough there was no going back even before this).
Therefore, Serbia should be very cautious and work with the new neighbour Kosova, if it really wants to help their serb minority and the religious sites in Kosova. If not, than it will be obvious to all that Serbia never really wanted to help Kosva serbs. The serb minority will feel betrayed, used, and cheated. I mean if Serbia followed Stambolic and not Milosevic Kosova would most likely be still called Kosovo and still be a part of Serbia. Serbian people chose to follow Milosevic's path to myth of Car Lazar and thought that Milosevic is the reincarnation of Car Lazar. The only diference was to be that the later (Milosevic) was to dwell on earth and not follow the kingdom of heaven. Well, you know what happens to earthly saints, they are usually psychopaths that harm others but do more harm to their own. Remember people, Serbia supported Milosevic. So, instead of asking or dramatizing the loss of Kosovo they should understand that they parttook on the defeat the moment they turned their blind eye to ethnic clensing and opened the imaginary ears to remote stories and unrealistic dreams.

Victor, you twist and turn like a Dervish dancer on a pinhead refusing to answer the questions put to you. You skulk from one article to another. You refuse to touch the Muslim - Croat conflict of 1993 which killed thousands which was relegated to a few seconds by the Western Medias to the bridge in Mostar falling into the River Neretva. When your arguments fail to meet the test of evidence you go back to Srebrenica which also fails on evidence. The number of Serbs killed by Muslims in and around Srebrenica and the number of Muslims killed by Serbs in retaliation at Srebrenica is a moot point. In most cases including Vukovar revenge was the motive.
There is no evidence of genocide in the wars in Yugoslavia. This was a civil war started by Slovenes, Croats, Muslims and Albanians with the help of NATO. If Serbs can be blamed for the war blame them for what they attempted to do which was to save Yugoslavia from disintegration. If Serbs wanted a Greater Serbia they could have had it after WWI and WWII but they opted out for the pre WWI Croatian idea called Yugoslavia. If Croatia had attempted to seek independence after the two wars they would have had Zagreb and its environs and the rest would have been given to Serbia. More Serbs died for Croatian nationhood than Croats. .
As for Kosovo, the KLA, a terrorist organization was killing innocent, Serbs and Albanians They did not care who they killed as long as they provoked the security forces into retaliation. The security forces responded, with force. I remember the Western Media called it disproportionate, but a rumor of a terrorist attack on Heathrow Airport Blair brought out the tanks, armored cars and snipers. It is OK for Britain to use tanks and guns at Heathrow and Ireland but not for Yugoslavia in Kosovo. What a joke! The number of persons killed in Kosovo was about two thousands. NATO fabricated the numbers saying thousands slaughtered but investigators went everywhere in Kosovo after NATO came in and only found Serb and Albanian individual graves numbering some two thousand. More people died as a result of NATO bombs than the civil war. . .
Milosevic was accused of genocide in Kosovo but this failed the test at The Hague so NATO added Bosnia and Croatia to his crimes. How ironic when he brokered five peace agreements to end the conflict which Muslims and Croats broke.
This was an economic war not a humanitarian one. America bombing campaign was one more step in a long history of American and British “foreign interventions, none of which, to that point (or since) have had anything to do with humanitarianism, and everything to do with securing economic advantage for investors, or safeguarding existing investments from expropriation by economic nationalist, socialist or communist regimes” Give me one example of a war that USA and Britain went into for humanitarian reasons Americans and Britons had never gone to war for altruistic reasons even including WWII. Britain and France did everything to arm Hitler in hopes that he would turn his forces against Russia, but instead Hitler turned his army westward. It was Russian blood and American “spork” and “spam” that saved us from the Nazis in Zagreb, Sarajevo and Tirana.
What Victor refuses to see was “that the Clinton administration had issued an ultimatum to Milosevic: allow NATO forces to occupy your country, and let us revamp the economy of Kosovo to be run along free market lines. Milosevic refused the ultimatum, and the bombing began” Furthermore, Milosevic was a socialist which in America is feared even though their army, schools, fire department, highways, transport, and so on are all run on the socialist principle they wanted to eliminate “largely socially and publicly owned economy [of Yugoslavia] that didn't present many money-making opportunities to investors in the West”
Yugoslavia was a major armaments producer and a competitor of America. The armament factories were the first to go in the NATO attack on Yugoslavia. NATO wanted to expand into Yugoslavia which Milosevic refused. By refusing to join NATO Yugoslavia was out of the market for NATO military equipment which every NATO nation must purchase from America.
Even though Yugoslavia was economically a third rate power its strategic location was important. By eliminating Yugoslavia all others in the Balkans became client states of America “its governments transformed into neo-liberal Quislings, its economies privatized, and it’s socially and publicly owned assets sold-off to the highest bidder at knockdown prices.” Milosevic was killed because he dared say no to global American agenda. The Balkan nations are like Pavlov’s dogs under US control and American capital. If you saw pictures of George in Tirana you could have drowned in saliva. I can understand how people like Victor wallow in nationalistic ignorance but the tragedy of the Yugoslav idea has been destroyed by the American imperialist mission “which was accomplished, with many liberals, progressive and leftists having cheered on the perpetrators”
If you have a response Victor I would like to hear it. Victor it is much easier to write when you don’t need to invent. By the way Victor when will you be leaving Vancouver where we have a large Asian community? I just read an editorial in the Indo Canadian Voice, written by the fundamentalist editor who supports independence for Punjab (Khalistan) which is now a province of India that all the whites should move beyond Hope. You think that is a good idea or are you already beyond hope??

Just a simple question:

If Serbia retains Kosovo, just exactly how do they plan on controlling it?

I'm not trying to be antagonistic. I don't have an opinion either way. But it does seem like Serbia is in dire straights - am I right? What am I missing?

With an army that is no-more, an economy in shreds, and a large percentage of their people in denial about their own crimes during the 90's, how do they plan on funding the development and promoting the reconciliation that is required to make Kosovo a unitary part of Serbia?

Please advise.

To: silly-me

Serbia des not want to control Kosovo, why is this s hard for people to understand. Albania would have self rule, Serbia just wants to prevent the land from being stolen.

Hey canadian, you have not said a dam thing how serbia intends to have control and/or run Kosova. Maybe Princip, Jovan, Svojegazda, Kate and others can help you to answer silly-me.
Message to Walter: Arabians are not our brothers and i could care less for Arabs. They are serbian friends not ours. Sadam Hysein was Milosheviqs best friend along with other rouge Arabian countries.
Getting back to subject ; 99% of NATO members would recognize Kosova's Independence.

A response to Walter-"ic".

Here are some of the funniest things I have read so far.

"If Serbs can be blamed for the war blame them for what they attempted to do which was to save Yugoslavia from disintegration".

"By refusing to join NATO Yugoslavia ..."

"Milosevic was accused of genocide in Kosovo but this failed the test at The Hague".

This is the best:
"Yugoslavia was a major armaments producer and a competitor of America."

Silly-Me: Exactly, which is why a partition of Kosovo makes perfect sense from my perspective. split Kosovo and everyone can move on. One thing i do agree with the albanians on is the issue of when a decision will be made either way. Neither Serbia or Kosovo can move forward whilst Kosovo is in limbo. A decision needs to be made to so that politicians minds can be focused on improving the economies and living standards.

pb
Since you are on the subject of division,WHY don't we just simply divide big bad serbian by allowing all of it's minorities independence which would then remain a true state where only the serbians predominate and we can live happyly ever after!I thought so,Kosova already agreed to not join Albania in return for recogization within her current borders. No division period!