Lavrov: Russia will not support imposed solution

In my opinion what Lavrov says means that Russia will not be involved in any decision regarding the Kosovo's future status.

I love it when the Americans make threats and Russia just gives them the finger, like they are doing now. The Russian bear has awoken!!! At last we have a powerful ally, look out.

OK, well do you albanians now see that Russia will NOT support or allow your dream of Independence? GAME OVER BOYS!!!

Lavrov is playing serbs, becasue he only says that russia does not approve imposed solution and he never uses the language of let say; russia will definately veto imposed solution. This tells me that , russia will obstain even though I would like to see them use the veto. I have said this many time before and the reason is because we will not be obligated to honor Ahtisari,s plan. To many perks for serb minorities.

Nice try massimo. They are not supporting it. Go Russia

You can chose not to support something while not willing to block it.

Until Russia says the word "veto" we wont know exactly what they will do.

I can't think of one perk for the Serbian minority that Albanians do not ultimately control. Serbs get nothing from Ahtisaari.

Instead of trying to block the process, Russia should feel sorry and ashamed they didn't try to impact on Serbia to stop doing the ethnic cleaning and masacers during '90 in Kosovo... Hurts are so deep, there is no way back for Kosovo, good luck Kosovo on your own way...

Message to all Albanians,
The only reason Russia has not come out and said that it is an absolute certainty it will veto Kosovo independence is Russia does not want to dull the impact of its veto. If Russia says it guarantees a veto, then there will be no suspense. Russia will wait until the last second and then give its veto. This way Russia will have the world stage and will be able to stick its thumb in America’s eye.

The only perk for the Serbs in Kosovo is that they get to live behind barbed wire with Italian protection.

Brian, I'm realy curious to know what would you 'give' to the K-Serbs if you would be Ahtisari?!?!?! Several times on your comments you are mentioning who is (not)getting what!?!?!?
Just to remind you - it's not about giving, it's about deserving and geting based on different international and UN charters, of course for both sides...

«The Russian bear has awoken!!!»

It's almost time! Spring is almost over!! I thought for a while that 'Big Bear' would sleep through summer!

Let's get real here folks.

To our albanian posters I need to say there is no need to twist each article into fantasy and hypothetical statements. Ther words from Mr. Lavrov are pretty damn clear.

Dane,

Russia were too busy inflicting misery on innocent Chechens in the 90's to give a monkeys about anything happening in Serbia

For all those who say Russia is not going to VETO and are just using the Serbs read the quotes. "we are also united on the Kosovo issue" Sergei Lavrov, most likely the next Russian president. "Serbia considered Kosovo independence unacceptable". That means no independence, and China said they would follow the Russian lead on this issue! Good luck on your unlawful, unilateral declaration of independence K-Albanians and your international backers.

B92, are you posting comments which are given in a form of question or not? I sent such one adressed to Brian but I don't see it?!

Dane, I'd wished I had written this last post of yours. You are completely correct. I'll wait and see if the Serbs on this forum will call you anti-Serbs! Every time I write something which is different from their opinion, they say tat I am a racist and an anti-Serb!

Anybody who has at least 2 digit IQ knows very well how Russia will vote in the UNSC...

These comments clearly say to me that you are afraid of a Russian VETO and are fully aware that if there is a VETO there is no INDEPENDENCE. Good for you for admitting it to yourselves before the vote.

CCCC

Russia has decided to start doing something about the US take over which has been taking place in europe, the defence shield, the orange revolution the georgian revolution and now Kosovo. Enough is enough and they have decided to impose their presence. About time!!

Djuro UK, no comment on your inhuman reply. Is it because things were hapenning in Kosovo and not in Serbia?!?!?!

This slanging match that's going on on this comments' board is digusting. As if what we write will change anything. Serbs only care to annoy the Albanians and vice versa. It seems no one really cares about Kosovo. This thing will be over and Albanians will move from this board, whatever the outcome. Something intelligent and informative, please!!!

Zoran,

Lavrov next Russian president? There you could be right. He could be a possible selection of Putin.
Well if that happens I am 100% sure that Europe will be divided again. I am just happy for the central-european and baltic states, which at this time will be at the right, democratic side of the divide.

To Cvele,

We definetly are not afraid of Russian veto. It will simply open a new possibility. UNILATERAL DECLARATION backed by US and EU. Then, Serbs for sure can say goodbye to Kosova forever. Yet, we are not like you, we will offer Kosova Serbs exactly what you are offering walley Albanians. Serbs who have committed attrocities during the war in Kosova and are in hiding in our land or in Serbia will be found sooner or later. So, war criminals hiding in Belgrade and hoping to return to Kosova, hold packing your bags, we now you and we are eagerly waiting to bring you to Albanian jusctice.

It is a good thing that an unregulated "hole" will not exist in the heart of europe. Not all EU members will support an atahisari version of kosovo as it sets free an intervention mechanism in other world areas. Many other attempts take place like the anan plan in Cyprus and are rebuffed. kosovars are new in world politics and other political structures will aloow them to become mainstream. It will take time but they will mature learn from mistakes understand an will be accepted by the international community. This is definitely not a cowboy era any more.

Russia is the single most important country for the long term security and stability of the European homeland and no infantile declarations by some commentators on this site changes this reality.The EU cannot and will not recognize Kosovo independence without a UNSC resolution.China and Russia are much more important to the EU's economic prosperity than little Kosovo and nobody should deceive themselves into thinking otherwise.The EU has a market of 140 million in Russia eager to sell to and a market of 1.3 billion in China.A person has to be a complete fool to think that there is a person on this planet who can intimidate Vladimir Putin and George Bush is definitely not even close to being able to do this.One judo move by Vladimir and George will be in agony with pain-LOL

Frank Gaxhi,
I like your clear message about the Russian veto. It is getting very boring to hear it from the Serbs day in day out. It will not change the final outcome and as a result the Russians will be humiliated. I am glad that you point out that the criminals will be brought to justice.

Read what Eric Margolis and Patric J. Buchanan have to say about Russia:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/margolis/margolis78.html
http://www.antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=11077

Problems of the US armed forces, possible escalation of the war(s) in the Near East:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts212.html

Frank, you need to stop threatening people. Albanian justice does not apply to Serbia.

I believe that Kosovo will be partitioned. It gives something to everyone, and Russia will walk away once serbia says, "Done Deal".

"I'm really curious to know what would you 'give' to the K-Serbs if you would be Ahtisaari?!?!?! Just to remind you - it's not about giving, it's about deserving and getting based on different international and UN charters, of course for both sides...(Dane, Wednesday, 6 June, 2007, 15:40)"
Well, first off I'd put all options on the table for discussion, including partition. I'd make all the so-called "protections" for the Serb minorities permanent and not extremely easily changed as outlined in paragraph 3.7 of the annex, which will only result in tensions between minorities in Kosovo. Paragraph 3.7 needs heavy revision. I'd make it clear what the definition of "access" is in regards to our Churches, as if this is abused by the Serbian side, the Albanian side will clearly invoke 3.7 and it will cause a downhill slide in relations between the two sides. Hasn't anyone here actually read the document, or are you all commenting without knowing what it even says?
The reality is, Serbs got much better terms in Bosnia then Kosovo, and the death toll and brutality of atrocities in Bosnia were worse.
I'm also very curious and somewhat worried about the numerous comments about Serbs being treated fairly or being allowed to return as "long as their hands are clean". Ahtisaari's proposal doesn't really address this issue at all. If its radical extremist Albanian citizen's on the ground making the determination on who's guilty and who's not, I have serious reservations, as from some of the posts here in the past, its clear some sectors of the Albanian population believe most, if not all, Serbians had members of their household who committed crimes. Many Albanians here seem to believe membership in MUP automatically makes someone and their whole family guilty. We need a substantial Truth & Reconciliation Commission to deal with these issues. Serbs need to be able to come clean with what they saw and/or did and be allowed to move forward. The masterminds behind the atrocities need to see jail time. It needs to be handled in the same way as its being handled in other areas of the world that saw these types of crimes happen.
I would also like to see "Standards Before Status" implemented before any final status is actually put into place. The International Community seems to be taking it on "good faith" that the reason minorities are still oppressed in Kosovo is a result of the undefined status. I personally do not believe that all of a sudden attitudes are going to change on the ground as soon as Independence is declared. It might help, but there are other factors that would benefit the protection of minorities far more.
The simple fact of the matter is that statistically per capita, the average Serb of Kosovo is just as likely to be listed among the death, cleansed or missing as the average Albanian of Kosovo, if not more (As far as missing and cleansed go, we have a far higher per capita rate then the Albanians there). While its clear for the moment that the Albanians do in fact have protections in place currently, there are no such substantial guarantees for the Serbian population. You can put whatever you like on paper, and even the government of Kosovo can agree, but as we saw in 2004, all that doesn't mean a thing when you have violence and retaliatory attacks committed at the grass roots level by the civilian population.

"This slanging match that's going on on this comments' board is digusting. (John 2, Wednesday, 6 June, 2007, 18:13)"
I absolutely 100% agree.

U have to realise there will be NO unilateral declaration and the only other option for the albans to pursue after the VETO is being self governed in Serbia. You know this, I know this, and every lawmaker in the world knows this.

I´ll tell you what is really disgusting!

it is disgusting to see how k-albanians are allowed to post their almost racist-like comments ( about the slavs in general, but particular the Serbs ), but those boys are so blind, they don´t even see how privileged they are on this board here...

to Frank: K-albanians have no authority ( nor do they have any kind of de-facto independence, as your ceku´s and taci´s wanna make you believe ), it´s UNMIK, and since albanians have no say about thing in Kosmet in general, they can´t offer anything to Serbia. in fact, Kosovo and Metohija IS de facto a part of the republic of Serbia.

and some incurable fanatics still think Russia will bend down...

Luciano,
It is the other way around: it is Vlad, your judo hero, who tries to intimidate the West. I access English, French, German, US sites on a daily basis and notice the same resolved attitude: the West rejects these intimidations and closing ranks just like during the Cold War. By the way what is your name, Luciano in Serbian? I is mostly an Italian or French (Lucian) name.

Frank Gaxhi's threats are exactly what keep displaced Kosmet Serbs from returning.
Partition is not only necessary, it's the only solution.

Isnt making Kosovo re-integrate into serbia an imposed solution? So sounds like russians are just being diplomatic.

However why serbs want kosovo apart from pride is still beyond me. They talk about so many problems there and why the kosovars cant solve them and yet dont have any realistic ideas of their own.

As for UN charter etc. and everything per UN law, noone listens to serbia about that since they broke a substantial UN laws over last 20 years.

People say EU needs Russia for energy. what good is having oil if there is noone to buy it? And I doubt Russia would send itself into recession by refusing energy, just over serbia. a blind man can see that there is something much more going on and serbia is just leverage until US, EU and Russia can come to some sort of arrangement.

I live abroad some time now.
I have learned a lot from British People.
I have learned how to respect human beings.
In this beautiful B-92 forum, is only hate!
I bet 90% of us live abroad,I want to ask you a question:Did you learn to hate so much abroad or this comes from "back home".
We should be the ones trying to cool off the situation without saying "Kosovo is Serbia,CCCC,Kosovo will get only independence,etc.!!!
There are a lot of commentators which are neutral and they don't know the real situation in Kosova/o.Could be married to a Kosovan Albanian or Kosovan Serb or they worked in Kosova/o.With their non stop teasing comments about the tense situation they are not helping,people like J.Ham or Kate who clearly says she is not Serbian,but she is still commenting worse then Serbs.
Anyway,I am only a part time commentator who became friends with Matthew and Blag(who left us few months ago) and I respect people like Svetlana and Djuro who recently showed us that Serbs are not as bad as everyone thinks.
I know some of you won't agree with me but Kosova/o was part of Yougoslavia.
Kosovan People never felt that they are part of Serbia!!!
That is the biggest problem.
Now when "Beautiful" Yougoslavia is gone,suddenly all Serbs are claiming that "Kosova/o is Serbia"!!!.
Just a little reminder that Kosova/o had rights like any part of then Yougoslavia,we had a Yougoslavian President which was albanian,maybe you remember Mr.Sinan Hasani!!!
Until the "CCCC" nobody mention Kosova/o but when the "Big Man" came on stage in 1989 in Kosovo Polje(Fushe Kosove) everything changed.
Serbs in Serbia started to learn that Kosova/o is a" Heart of Serbia",etc.
We need a solution,I don't believe that almost 2 million Kosovan Albanians will except Serbia as their country!!!
I don't think that Kosovan Albanians will get everything,as I don't trust the WEST!
Russia is run by gangsters!!!
They just want to show to the World that they are back in business!!!
They are just a stubborn nation or maybe run by stubborn leaders!!!
I wonder why is that!!!
Peace and Love to everyone.

if i am not mistaken the US said they would not back any unilaterial declaration of independence. If they did why had they not just do it? Answer becasue they know the US said don't do it and they won't. they will just jump up and down screaming. Now those who live in the valley want to join with Kosovo LOL, madness is spreading and when the madness is squashed by NATO and EU Forces then the finger pointing will start blame the EU for there troubles.

Mister Svojgazda,

You right. Albanian laws will not apply to Serbia. But will apply to those who return. Especialy to my ex-neighbor Vukosava who set fire to my home and then ran off with my tractor to Serbia.

I hope he reads this post!

Destan Belaxhia

@Victor
oh, Victor, you wrote................ "Dane, I'd wished I had written this last post of yours. You are completely correct. I'll wait and see if the Serbs on this forum will call you anti-Serbs! Every time I write something which is different from their opinion, they say tat I am a racist and an anti-Serb!............"

Anyway, your writings show that you are (to say the least) very biased. Thats why people here comment on you. If you would put things in perspective and especially see that we are now living in 2007 you would comment differently. Look forward! Whatever the issue is, you always try to comment on what happened in the past. Am curious if you will also react on the success of the Serbian tennisplayers?

Victor,

Despite the fact that I disagree with many of Dane's points, and he's clearly bias against Serbs, he doesn't make up crazy numbers or lies about atrocities. I have no problem with people being anti-Serb, its blatant lies about what happened that upset me and I call people out on it when they do it. You constantly claim to be for the victims, but its only victims of Serb aggression that you condemn. You're silent about Croatian on Bosniak violence, or when the victims are Serbs. That to me is very wrong.

"Especially to my ex-neighbor Vukosava who set fire to my home and then ran off with my tractor to Serbia. (Destan Belaxhia, Thursday, 7 June, 2007, 06:02)"
Destan, I do hope you get your tractor back and that Vukosava has to pay for the damages to your home and a little jail time to boot. Thank you for your comment. Can I ask out of curiosity, what happened to Vukosava's house? Did he sell it? If there is anything I can do to help you in this, feel free to let me know.
To Louie, I am a true Yugophile, and it saddens me greatly to see what's become of this once proud nation. The fact is, if we had not all turned on ourselves and carved up Yugoslavia, we would all be enjoying the benefits of being in the EU, and that is the most tragic thing of all, we did this to ourselves. We can only hope and pray that the same silly ideas that tore apart Yugoslavia do not tear apart the EU. I shudder in fear of what the possible ramifications of allowing all the Balkan states to join might be if we are not able to work out our differences before we join. I actually miss Blag a great deal, he stated Serbia's position legally very well and from a position of strength, without being a racist, and I did see he learned a lot from his discussions with the Albanians here. To me, that was the "golden" age of our comments here, when we spent far more time debating the issues then the same name calling everyday.
Strangely enough, my basic theory on the original breakup of Yugoslavia was that the West feared that the EU would not be able to absorb the former Eastern Block countries if a viable alternative such as Yugoslavia, the main leader of the non-aligned State's movement was still in existence.

In my opinion what Lavrov says means that Russia will not be involved in any decision regarding the Kosovo's future status.

I love it when the Americans make threats and Russia just gives them the finger, like they are doing now. The Russian bear has awoken!!! At last we have a powerful ally, look out.

OK, well do you albanians now see that Russia will NOT support or allow your dream of Independence? GAME OVER BOYS!!!

Lavrov is playing serbs, becasue he only says that russia does not approve imposed solution and he never uses the language of let say; russia will definately veto imposed solution. This tells me that , russia will obstain even though I would like to see them use the veto. I have said this many time before and the reason is because we will not be obligated to honor Ahtisari,s plan. To many perks for serb minorities.

Nice try massimo. They are not supporting it. Go Russia

You can chose not to support something while not willing to block it.

Until Russia says the word "veto" we wont know exactly what they will do.

I can't think of one perk for the Serbian minority that Albanians do not ultimately control. Serbs get nothing from Ahtisaari.

Instead of trying to block the process, Russia should feel sorry and ashamed they didn't try to impact on Serbia to stop doing the ethnic cleaning and masacers during '90 in Kosovo... Hurts are so deep, there is no way back for Kosovo, good luck Kosovo on your own way...

Message to all Albanians,
The only reason Russia has not come out and said that it is an absolute certainty it will veto Kosovo independence is Russia does not want to dull the impact of its veto. If Russia says it guarantees a veto, then there will be no suspense. Russia will wait until the last second and then give its veto. This way Russia will have the world stage and will be able to stick its thumb in America’s eye.

The only perk for the Serbs in Kosovo is that they get to live behind barbed wire with Italian protection.

Brian, I'm realy curious to know what would you 'give' to the K-Serbs if you would be Ahtisari?!?!?! Several times on your comments you are mentioning who is (not)getting what!?!?!?
Just to remind you - it's not about giving, it's about deserving and geting based on different international and UN charters, of course for both sides...

«The Russian bear has awoken!!!»

It's almost time! Spring is almost over!! I thought for a while that 'Big Bear' would sleep through summer!

Let's get real here folks.

To our albanian posters I need to say there is no need to twist each article into fantasy and hypothetical statements. Ther words from Mr. Lavrov are pretty damn clear.

Dane,

Russia were too busy inflicting misery on innocent Chechens in the 90's to give a monkeys about anything happening in Serbia

For all those who say Russia is not going to VETO and are just using the Serbs read the quotes. "we are also united on the Kosovo issue" Sergei Lavrov, most likely the next Russian president. "Serbia considered Kosovo independence unacceptable". That means no independence, and China said they would follow the Russian lead on this issue! Good luck on your unlawful, unilateral declaration of independence K-Albanians and your international backers.

B92, are you posting comments which are given in a form of question or not? I sent such one adressed to Brian but I don't see it?!

Dane, I'd wished I had written this last post of yours. You are completely correct. I'll wait and see if the Serbs on this forum will call you anti-Serbs! Every time I write something which is different from their opinion, they say tat I am a racist and an anti-Serb!

Anybody who has at least 2 digit IQ knows very well how Russia will vote in the UNSC...

These comments clearly say to me that you are afraid of a Russian VETO and are fully aware that if there is a VETO there is no INDEPENDENCE. Good for you for admitting it to yourselves before the vote.

CCCC

Russia has decided to start doing something about the US take over which has been taking place in europe, the defence shield, the orange revolution the georgian revolution and now Kosovo. Enough is enough and they have decided to impose their presence. About time!!

Djuro UK, no comment on your inhuman reply. Is it because things were hapenning in Kosovo and not in Serbia?!?!?!

This slanging match that's going on on this comments' board is digusting. As if what we write will change anything. Serbs only care to annoy the Albanians and vice versa. It seems no one really cares about Kosovo. This thing will be over and Albanians will move from this board, whatever the outcome. Something intelligent and informative, please!!!

Zoran,

Lavrov next Russian president? There you could be right. He could be a possible selection of Putin.
Well if that happens I am 100% sure that Europe will be divided again. I am just happy for the central-european and baltic states, which at this time will be at the right, democratic side of the divide.

To Cvele,

We definetly are not afraid of Russian veto. It will simply open a new possibility. UNILATERAL DECLARATION backed by US and EU. Then, Serbs for sure can say goodbye to Kosova forever. Yet, we are not like you, we will offer Kosova Serbs exactly what you are offering walley Albanians. Serbs who have committed attrocities during the war in Kosova and are in hiding in our land or in Serbia will be found sooner or later. So, war criminals hiding in Belgrade and hoping to return to Kosova, hold packing your bags, we now you and we are eagerly waiting to bring you to Albanian jusctice.

It is a good thing that an unregulated "hole" will not exist in the heart of europe. Not all EU members will support an atahisari version of kosovo as it sets free an intervention mechanism in other world areas. Many other attempts take place like the anan plan in Cyprus and are rebuffed. kosovars are new in world politics and other political structures will aloow them to become mainstream. It will take time but they will mature learn from mistakes understand an will be accepted by the international community. This is definitely not a cowboy era any more.

Russia is the single most important country for the long term security and stability of the European homeland and no infantile declarations by some commentators on this site changes this reality.The EU cannot and will not recognize Kosovo independence without a UNSC resolution.China and Russia are much more important to the EU's economic prosperity than little Kosovo and nobody should deceive themselves into thinking otherwise.The EU has a market of 140 million in Russia eager to sell to and a market of 1.3 billion in China.A person has to be a complete fool to think that there is a person on this planet who can intimidate Vladimir Putin and George Bush is definitely not even close to being able to do this.One judo move by Vladimir and George will be in agony with pain-LOL

Frank Gaxhi,
I like your clear message about the Russian veto. It is getting very boring to hear it from the Serbs day in day out. It will not change the final outcome and as a result the Russians will be humiliated. I am glad that you point out that the criminals will be brought to justice.

Read what Eric Margolis and Patric J. Buchanan have to say about Russia:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/margolis/margolis78.html
http://www.antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=11077

Problems of the US armed forces, possible escalation of the war(s) in the Near East:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts212.html

Frank, you need to stop threatening people. Albanian justice does not apply to Serbia.

I believe that Kosovo will be partitioned. It gives something to everyone, and Russia will walk away once serbia says, "Done Deal".

"I'm really curious to know what would you 'give' to the K-Serbs if you would be Ahtisaari?!?!?! Just to remind you - it's not about giving, it's about deserving and getting based on different international and UN charters, of course for both sides...(Dane, Wednesday, 6 June, 2007, 15:40)"
Well, first off I'd put all options on the table for discussion, including partition. I'd make all the so-called "protections" for the Serb minorities permanent and not extremely easily changed as outlined in paragraph 3.7 of the annex, which will only result in tensions between minorities in Kosovo. Paragraph 3.7 needs heavy revision. I'd make it clear what the definition of "access" is in regards to our Churches, as if this is abused by the Serbian side, the Albanian side will clearly invoke 3.7 and it will cause a downhill slide in relations between the two sides. Hasn't anyone here actually read the document, or are you all commenting without knowing what it even says?
The reality is, Serbs got much better terms in Bosnia then Kosovo, and the death toll and brutality of atrocities in Bosnia were worse.
I'm also very curious and somewhat worried about the numerous comments about Serbs being treated fairly or being allowed to return as "long as their hands are clean". Ahtisaari's proposal doesn't really address this issue at all. If its radical extremist Albanian citizen's on the ground making the determination on who's guilty and who's not, I have serious reservations, as from some of the posts here in the past, its clear some sectors of the Albanian population believe most, if not all, Serbians had members of their household who committed crimes. Many Albanians here seem to believe membership in MUP automatically makes someone and their whole family guilty. We need a substantial Truth & Reconciliation Commission to deal with these issues. Serbs need to be able to come clean with what they saw and/or did and be allowed to move forward. The masterminds behind the atrocities need to see jail time. It needs to be handled in the same way as its being handled in other areas of the world that saw these types of crimes happen.
I would also like to see "Standards Before Status" implemented before any final status is actually put into place. The International Community seems to be taking it on "good faith" that the reason minorities are still oppressed in Kosovo is a result of the undefined status. I personally do not believe that all of a sudden attitudes are going to change on the ground as soon as Independence is declared. It might help, but there are other factors that would benefit the protection of minorities far more.
The simple fact of the matter is that statistically per capita, the average Serb of Kosovo is just as likely to be listed among the death, cleansed or missing as the average Albanian of Kosovo, if not more (As far as missing and cleansed go, we have a far higher per capita rate then the Albanians there). While its clear for the moment that the Albanians do in fact have protections in place currently, there are no such substantial guarantees for the Serbian population. You can put whatever you like on paper, and even the government of Kosovo can agree, but as we saw in 2004, all that doesn't mean a thing when you have violence and retaliatory attacks committed at the grass roots level by the civilian population.

"This slanging match that's going on on this comments' board is digusting. (John 2, Wednesday, 6 June, 2007, 18:13)"
I absolutely 100% agree.

U have to realise there will be NO unilateral declaration and the only other option for the albans to pursue after the VETO is being self governed in Serbia. You know this, I know this, and every lawmaker in the world knows this.

I´ll tell you what is really disgusting!

it is disgusting to see how k-albanians are allowed to post their almost racist-like comments ( about the slavs in general, but particular the Serbs ), but those boys are so blind, they don´t even see how privileged they are on this board here...

to Frank: K-albanians have no authority ( nor do they have any kind of de-facto independence, as your ceku´s and taci´s wanna make you believe ), it´s UNMIK, and since albanians have no say about thing in Kosmet in general, they can´t offer anything to Serbia. in fact, Kosovo and Metohija IS de facto a part of the republic of Serbia.

and some incurable fanatics still think Russia will bend down...

Luciano,
It is the other way around: it is Vlad, your judo hero, who tries to intimidate the West. I access English, French, German, US sites on a daily basis and notice the same resolved attitude: the West rejects these intimidations and closing ranks just like during the Cold War. By the way what is your name, Luciano in Serbian? I is mostly an Italian or French (Lucian) name.

Frank Gaxhi's threats are exactly what keep displaced Kosmet Serbs from returning.
Partition is not only necessary, it's the only solution.

Isnt making Kosovo re-integrate into serbia an imposed solution? So sounds like russians are just being diplomatic.

However why serbs want kosovo apart from pride is still beyond me. They talk about so many problems there and why the kosovars cant solve them and yet dont have any realistic ideas of their own.

As for UN charter etc. and everything per UN law, noone listens to serbia about that since they broke a substantial UN laws over last 20 years.

People say EU needs Russia for energy. what good is having oil if there is noone to buy it? And I doubt Russia would send itself into recession by refusing energy, just over serbia. a blind man can see that there is something much more going on and serbia is just leverage until US, EU and Russia can come to some sort of arrangement.

I live abroad some time now.
I have learned a lot from British People.
I have learned how to respect human beings.
In this beautiful B-92 forum, is only hate!
I bet 90% of us live abroad,I want to ask you a question:Did you learn to hate so much abroad or this comes from "back home".
We should be the ones trying to cool off the situation without saying "Kosovo is Serbia,CCCC,Kosovo will get only independence,etc.!!!
There are a lot of commentators which are neutral and they don't know the real situation in Kosova/o.Could be married to a Kosovan Albanian or Kosovan Serb or they worked in Kosova/o.With their non stop teasing comments about the tense situation they are not helping,people like J.Ham or Kate who clearly says she is not Serbian,but she is still commenting worse then Serbs.
Anyway,I am only a part time commentator who became friends with Matthew and Blag(who left us few months ago) and I respect people like Svetlana and Djuro who recently showed us that Serbs are not as bad as everyone thinks.
I know some of you won't agree with me but Kosova/o was part of Yougoslavia.
Kosovan People never felt that they are part of Serbia!!!
That is the biggest problem.
Now when "Beautiful" Yougoslavia is gone,suddenly all Serbs are claiming that "Kosova/o is Serbia"!!!.
Just a little reminder that Kosova/o had rights like any part of then Yougoslavia,we had a Yougoslavian President which was albanian,maybe you remember Mr.Sinan Hasani!!!
Until the "CCCC" nobody mention Kosova/o but when the "Big Man" came on stage in 1989 in Kosovo Polje(Fushe Kosove) everything changed.
Serbs in Serbia started to learn that Kosova/o is a" Heart of Serbia",etc.
We need a solution,I don't believe that almost 2 million Kosovan Albanians will except Serbia as their country!!!
I don't think that Kosovan Albanians will get everything,as I don't trust the WEST!
Russia is run by gangsters!!!
They just want to show to the World that they are back in business!!!
They are just a stubborn nation or maybe run by stubborn leaders!!!
I wonder why is that!!!
Peace and Love to everyone.

if i am not mistaken the US said they would not back any unilaterial declaration of independence. If they did why had they not just do it? Answer becasue they know the US said don't do it and they won't. they will just jump up and down screaming. Now those who live in the valley want to join with Kosovo LOL, madness is spreading and when the madness is squashed by NATO and EU Forces then the finger pointing will start blame the EU for there troubles.

Mister Svojgazda,

You right. Albanian laws will not apply to Serbia. But will apply to those who return. Especialy to my ex-neighbor Vukosava who set fire to my home and then ran off with my tractor to Serbia.

I hope he reads this post!

Destan Belaxhia

@Victor
oh, Victor, you wrote................ "Dane, I'd wished I had written this last post of yours. You are completely correct. I'll wait and see if the Serbs on this forum will call you anti-Serbs! Every time I write something which is different from their opinion, they say tat I am a racist and an anti-Serb!............"

Anyway, your writings show that you are (to say the least) very biased. Thats why people here comment on you. If you would put things in perspective and especially see that we are now living in 2007 you would comment differently. Look forward! Whatever the issue is, you always try to comment on what happened in the past. Am curious if you will also react on the success of the Serbian tennisplayers?

Victor,

Despite the fact that I disagree with many of Dane's points, and he's clearly bias against Serbs, he doesn't make up crazy numbers or lies about atrocities. I have no problem with people being anti-Serb, its blatant lies about what happened that upset me and I call people out on it when they do it. You constantly claim to be for the victims, but its only victims of Serb aggression that you condemn. You're silent about Croatian on Bosniak violence, or when the victims are Serbs. That to me is very wrong.

"Especially to my ex-neighbor Vukosava who set fire to my home and then ran off with my tractor to Serbia. (Destan Belaxhia, Thursday, 7 June, 2007, 06:02)"
Destan, I do hope you get your tractor back and that Vukosava has to pay for the damages to your home and a little jail time to boot. Thank you for your comment. Can I ask out of curiosity, what happened to Vukosava's house? Did he sell it? If there is anything I can do to help you in this, feel free to let me know.
To Louie, I am a true Yugophile, and it saddens me greatly to see what's become of this once proud nation. The fact is, if we had not all turned on ourselves and carved up Yugoslavia, we would all be enjoying the benefits of being in the EU, and that is the most tragic thing of all, we did this to ourselves. We can only hope and pray that the same silly ideas that tore apart Yugoslavia do not tear apart the EU. I shudder in fear of what the possible ramifications of allowing all the Balkan states to join might be if we are not able to work out our differences before we join. I actually miss Blag a great deal, he stated Serbia's position legally very well and from a position of strength, without being a racist, and I did see he learned a lot from his discussions with the Albanians here. To me, that was the "golden" age of our comments here, when we spent far more time debating the issues then the same name calling everyday.
Strangely enough, my basic theory on the original breakup of Yugoslavia was that the West feared that the EU would not be able to absorb the former Eastern Block countries if a viable alternative such as Yugoslavia, the main leader of the non-aligned State's movement was still in existence.