sorry to burst your bubble but the Serbs are only too well aware that Russia must do what is its best interets and that is why they will be vetoing such folly in the UN - because it is Russia's interest!!! The fact that Kosovo & Metohija will remain a Serbian province after this week will be something that Ceku & Sediju need to explain on Saturday 9th June when it becomes very evident that the US gave false hope in a promise that was not theirs to give. UN SC resolution 1244 will remain and as such it's full implementation will be the focus and using Blair words "Conform to it" !!!
AHILLEAS, you are saying that the things are changing lately... Yes you are right more and more countries are supporting the Independence of Kosova, so the change is happening in Kosova's favor not in Serbia's. A lot of countries now are with kosova that just few years before were with Serbia, and this shows that things are changing in our favor.
Even your Country Greece supports Kosova's independence now. Bakoyanis is a really good friend of albanians. Greece finally lately is recognizing that she should rather be with Albanians as greeks and albanians are the longest living neighbors in the Balkans while the serbs came from Russia centuries later.
PB, KATe, Russia does not care at all for Serbia. What Russia wants out of this is to take advantage of the situation and take over Abkhazia and Osetia, thats all Russia wants, therefore at the end you the serbs might be left with nothing. Kosova independent, Russians might get Osetia so basically you the serbs will only be used by Russia for her own interests. Even your President Tadic said that he does not hope for Russia to help since Russia only looks for her own interests. So even your own president does not hope on Russia, so why do you stil dream ? Get over serbs, time to dream and live in myths is finished. Its time to face the reality already.
oh god i'm tired of this. you albanians everyday here say any day now we will be independent, oh the inevitable, well its been like 3 years now and i see that posted everyday, when is it now? i mean lets go back to some other posts from a few months ago im pretty sure you guys said end of march was the latest and now its june, well when june is over and kosovo is still serbia, i would like to hear what your next prediction is, should be interesting.
It is funny how the anti-independence camp are shrinking evrey day! they started out by saying no contry supports independence of kosovo. then no partition because kosovo is a serbian craddle. and many other things. but one thing that strikes me the most is what made the serbs change their minds and agree to kosovo partititon. i was under the impression that the serbian heritage is located in the western part of kosovo and partially in central kosovo?! my question to all the serbian comentators in this site is: What ever happened to Kosovo as the craddle of your nation? there is nothing north of ibar that identifies kosovo as birth of your nation! except the people living there, ofcourse!
i feel sorry for some of the guys here for not thinking rational and being real to the fact that while kosovans have been told to propose state symbols, nstional flag and anthem. the serbs are still living in a dreamworld.
wake up my serbian friends and start loving your neighbors.
god bless you all
spunky
I agree. Partition of only Kosmet is the fairest solution of all. However, Albanians will never go for it. You have to live here to know it. Only Presevo for the north Kosmet is a good deal for the sake of peace. What other cards do you have to play accept Russian veto?
If Russians Vetoe, and the West chooses to recognize Kosovo's unilateral moves, Kosovo Serbs will be the biggest losers of all.
Boris - PArtition i agree with, but only of Kosovo, no land swap of northern kosovo for presevo. why should there be a swap? the albanians claim it is there moral right to kosovo after the milosevic oppression. OK, so if we go along with that, then it was only the albanians in Kosovo that were oppressed so they have a right to the land they live on, NOT the serbian land in Kosovo, and NOT the serbian land of presevo where many albanians still live as they were not the targets of milosevic. statements like "swapping" presevo for northern kosovo show the real intentions and true nature of the albanian "independence" movement - a try to create a greater albania, nothing to do with a moral right to the land due to milosevic's actions. the albanians have sown there true colours.
once again an Albanian is talking about myths and dreams ( meaning the Serbs!) but, let´s stick to the facts, boy!
it´s quite the opposite, that whole illyrian nonsense-thing is a big myth, one the Albanians need in order to creat something like a national identity, even if it is fabricated.
interesting, even albanina historians say it quite clear, but they are not heard by the "albanian camp" on B92.
Partition is the only outcome that will satisfy both sides. If Albanians don't want to deal in the future with Serbia's claim over Kosmet and be recognized by UN and the world, then, they ought to embrace the idea of partition. They get Presevo (Minus Bujanovac, Medvedja) For the North of Kosmet.
After reading the article about the newest mass grave (around 500 albanian bodies) I'm wondering how can anybody say that srbija is good to albanians and other minorities?
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=06&dd=04&nav_category=113&nav_id=41594
Who still thinks that Kosovo should be part of srbija? Can someone tell me how many mass graves with srbs in them are found last years?
No Vote this week = No Independence
Vote + Veto = No Independence
- either way this folly will be ended this week but both inevitable outcomes are NO Independence. You can follow that with NO ILLEGAL unilateral declarations, NO ILLEGAL recognition and NO Violence as KFOR is obligated to act and will!!!
I am looking forward to Saturday morning when it finally dawns that there could never be an independent entity by partitioning a UN sovereign state!!!
PB: Bear is bear and grizzly is a huge bear- dangerous.
Your country Serbia has intentions to became a NATO and EU member-both created by USA and alliance. So, how is possible being member of NATO and EU and in same time a big supporter of Russia? There is a purpose why NATO was created and still exists.
Its like a kid crying for a toy. It keeps crying even after they make it leave the store. Still hoping that the parents will turn around and go and buy it. Parents US and EU and the disgruntled child... well albans trying to steal KosovO.
Whats entertaining is that the albans do not realize that they are about to be abandoned because the West has failed and now this issue has become their Achilles heel on the political playing field.
In this new age of Internet its hard to hide the Truth.
Behar - if you want to comment, then why don't you write something which is interesting but more importantly relevant. get you head out of the clouds and see the situation for what it really is. i'm sure that the USA will do it's best to blunt Russia's influence but if you think that Kosovo will become independent without Russai'a say so then you are sadly mistaken. the proof is in the pudding - the USA and EU would have recognised Kosovo by now if they could. they can't because only the UN can lend legitimacy to Kosovo's bid for independence. if i were you i'd keep my head in the clouds and dream that independence is possible without russia.
Peter,
You definitively have Russia,which get very confrontational with the WEST. Hardly a day without a russian menace. I today's Wall Street Jpurnal there is a front page article "Putin treatens West". But as a diplomat observed "I have seldom seen such a consensus among Europeans and Americans in private about Russia as I have now". I think Russia miscalculates once again.
Afrim - Speaking of 'dreams and myths' - why would you so casually dismiss Russia? Russia will not abstain, and the US knows this which is why they will wait for an agreement before tabling any new Resolution.
I also think, although it is wrong because no land should be handed over, that partition is the most likely solution along with guarantees for the protection of Serbian heritage.
The only other possible solution is internationally supervised autonomy. This is what should be supported by the US and EU, but I'm not sure they are brave enough to take this route.
Afrim, haven't you been reading Russia's statements recently. Kosovo is the line in the sand for Russia. The only hope you have for an independent Kosovo will be to partition it.
Serbian governemnt is aware Kosova will become Independent one way or another, but they won't let it go without a fight and getting money in return or cut out their debt to world bank is whats propably the main reason, including a faster entry to the EU...
Serbs were hoping so much in Slovakia, but now even Slovakia left them alone.
In only few days Russia will leave Serbia alone also because they will abstain, this is the agreement between USA&EU with Russia.
Sorry Serbs but you should have expected all this, but myths and dreams did not allow you. Hopefully soon you will wake up.
Irrelevant without Russia's acceptance which is the reason why the USA has not unilaterally recognised Kosovo - and won't. it needs UN recognition which is impossible without Russia.
Only way to break the deadlock between the two sides is to partition Kosovo.
Irrelevant without Russia's acceptance which is the reason why the USA has not unilaterally recognised Kosovo - and won't. it needs UN recognition which is impossible without Russia.
Only way to break the deadlock between the two sides is to partition Kosovo.
Serbs were hoping so much in Slovakia, but now even Slovakia left them alone.
In only few days Russia will leave Serbia alone also because they will abstain, this is the agreement between USA&EU with Russia.
Sorry Serbs but you should have expected all this, but myths and dreams did not allow you. Hopefully soon you will wake up.
Serbian governemnt is aware Kosova will become Independent one way or another, but they won't let it go without a fight and getting money in return or cut out their debt to world bank is whats propably the main reason, including a faster entry to the EU...
Afrim, haven't you been reading Russia's statements recently. Kosovo is the line in the sand for Russia. The only hope you have for an independent Kosovo will be to partition it.
Afrim - Speaking of 'dreams and myths' - why would you so casually dismiss Russia? Russia will not abstain, and the US knows this which is why they will wait for an agreement before tabling any new Resolution.
I also think, although it is wrong because no land should be handed over, that partition is the most likely solution along with guarantees for the protection of Serbian heritage.
The only other possible solution is internationally supervised autonomy. This is what should be supported by the US and EU, but I'm not sure they are brave enough to take this route.
Peter,
You definitively have Russia,which get very confrontational with the WEST. Hardly a day without a russian menace. I today's Wall Street Jpurnal there is a front page article "Putin treatens West". But as a diplomat observed "I have seldom seen such a consensus among Europeans and Americans in private about Russia as I have now". I think Russia miscalculates once again.
Behar - if you want to comment, then why don't you write something which is interesting but more importantly relevant. get you head out of the clouds and see the situation for what it really is. i'm sure that the USA will do it's best to blunt Russia's influence but if you think that Kosovo will become independent without Russai'a say so then you are sadly mistaken. the proof is in the pudding - the USA and EU would have recognised Kosovo by now if they could. they can't because only the UN can lend legitimacy to Kosovo's bid for independence. if i were you i'd keep my head in the clouds and dream that independence is possible without russia.
Its like a kid crying for a toy. It keeps crying even after they make it leave the store. Still hoping that the parents will turn around and go and buy it. Parents US and EU and the disgruntled child... well albans trying to steal KosovO.
Whats entertaining is that the albans do not realize that they are about to be abandoned because the West has failed and now this issue has become their Achilles heel on the political playing field.
In this new age of Internet its hard to hide the Truth.
PB: Bear is bear and grizzly is a huge bear- dangerous.
Your country Serbia has intentions to became a NATO and EU member-both created by USA and alliance. So, how is possible being member of NATO and EU and in same time a big supporter of Russia? There is a purpose why NATO was created and still exists.
No Vote this week = No Independence
Vote + Veto = No Independence
- either way this folly will be ended this week but both inevitable outcomes are NO Independence. You can follow that with NO ILLEGAL unilateral declarations, NO ILLEGAL recognition and NO Violence as KFOR is obligated to act and will!!!
I am looking forward to Saturday morning when it finally dawns that there could never be an independent entity by partitioning a UN sovereign state!!!
After reading the article about the newest mass grave (around 500 albanian bodies) I'm wondering how can anybody say that srbija is good to albanians and other minorities?
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=06&dd=04&nav_category=113&nav_id=41594
Who still thinks that Kosovo should be part of srbija? Can someone tell me how many mass graves with srbs in them are found last years?
Partition is the only outcome that will satisfy both sides. If Albanians don't want to deal in the future with Serbia's claim over Kosmet and be recognized by UN and the world, then, they ought to embrace the idea of partition. They get Presevo (Minus Bujanovac, Medvedja) For the North of Kosmet.
once again an Albanian is talking about myths and dreams ( meaning the Serbs!) but, let´s stick to the facts, boy!
it´s quite the opposite, that whole illyrian nonsense-thing is a big myth, one the Albanians need in order to creat something like a national identity, even if it is fabricated.
interesting, even albanina historians say it quite clear, but they are not heard by the "albanian camp" on B92.
Boris - PArtition i agree with, but only of Kosovo, no land swap of northern kosovo for presevo. why should there be a swap? the albanians claim it is there moral right to kosovo after the milosevic oppression. OK, so if we go along with that, then it was only the albanians in Kosovo that were oppressed so they have a right to the land they live on, NOT the serbian land in Kosovo, and NOT the serbian land of presevo where many albanians still live as they were not the targets of milosevic. statements like "swapping" presevo for northern kosovo show the real intentions and true nature of the albanian "independence" movement - a try to create a greater albania, nothing to do with a moral right to the land due to milosevic's actions. the albanians have sown there true colours.
I agree. Partition of only Kosmet is the fairest solution of all. However, Albanians will never go for it. You have to live here to know it. Only Presevo for the north Kosmet is a good deal for the sake of peace. What other cards do you have to play accept Russian veto?
If Russians Vetoe, and the West chooses to recognize Kosovo's unilateral moves, Kosovo Serbs will be the biggest losers of all.
oh god i'm tired of this. you albanians everyday here say any day now we will be independent, oh the inevitable, well its been like 3 years now and i see that posted everyday, when is it now? i mean lets go back to some other posts from a few months ago im pretty sure you guys said end of march was the latest and now its june, well when june is over and kosovo is still serbia, i would like to hear what your next prediction is, should be interesting.
It is funny how the anti-independence camp are shrinking evrey day! they started out by saying no contry supports independence of kosovo. then no partition because kosovo is a serbian craddle. and many other things. but one thing that strikes me the most is what made the serbs change their minds and agree to kosovo partititon. i was under the impression that the serbian heritage is located in the western part of kosovo and partially in central kosovo?! my question to all the serbian comentators in this site is: What ever happened to Kosovo as the craddle of your nation? there is nothing north of ibar that identifies kosovo as birth of your nation! except the people living there, ofcourse!
i feel sorry for some of the guys here for not thinking rational and being real to the fact that while kosovans have been told to propose state symbols, nstional flag and anthem. the serbs are still living in a dreamworld.
wake up my serbian friends and start loving your neighbors.
god bless you all
spunky
AHILLEAS, you are saying that the things are changing lately... Yes you are right more and more countries are supporting the Independence of Kosova, so the change is happening in Kosova's favor not in Serbia's. A lot of countries now are with kosova that just few years before were with Serbia, and this shows that things are changing in our favor.
Even your Country Greece supports Kosova's independence now. Bakoyanis is a really good friend of albanians. Greece finally lately is recognizing that she should rather be with Albanians as greeks and albanians are the longest living neighbors in the Balkans while the serbs came from Russia centuries later.
PB, KATe, Russia does not care at all for Serbia. What Russia wants out of this is to take advantage of the situation and take over Abkhazia and Osetia, thats all Russia wants, therefore at the end you the serbs might be left with nothing. Kosova independent, Russians might get Osetia so basically you the serbs will only be used by Russia for her own interests. Even your President Tadic said that he does not hope for Russia to help since Russia only looks for her own interests. So even your own president does not hope on Russia, so why do you stil dream ? Get over serbs, time to dream and live in myths is finished. Its time to face the reality already.
sorry to burst your bubble but the Serbs are only too well aware that Russia must do what is its best interets and that is why they will be vetoing such folly in the UN - because it is Russia's interest!!! The fact that Kosovo & Metohija will remain a Serbian province after this week will be something that Ceku & Sediju need to explain on Saturday 9th June when it becomes very evident that the US gave false hope in a promise that was not theirs to give. UN SC resolution 1244 will remain and as such it's full implementation will be the focus and using Blair words "Conform to it" !!!
Irrelevant without Russia's acceptance which is the reason why the USA has not unilaterally recognised Kosovo - and won't. it needs UN recognition which is impossible without Russia.
Only way to break the deadlock between the two sides is to partition Kosovo.
Serbs were hoping so much in Slovakia, but now even Slovakia left them alone.
In only few days Russia will leave Serbia alone also because they will abstain, this is the agreement between USA&EU with Russia.
Sorry Serbs but you should have expected all this, but myths and dreams did not allow you. Hopefully soon you will wake up.
Serbian governemnt is aware Kosova will become Independent one way or another, but they won't let it go without a fight and getting money in return or cut out their debt to world bank is whats propably the main reason, including a faster entry to the EU...
Afrim, haven't you been reading Russia's statements recently. Kosovo is the line in the sand for Russia. The only hope you have for an independent Kosovo will be to partition it.
Afrim - Speaking of 'dreams and myths' - why would you so casually dismiss Russia? Russia will not abstain, and the US knows this which is why they will wait for an agreement before tabling any new Resolution.
I also think, although it is wrong because no land should be handed over, that partition is the most likely solution along with guarantees for the protection of Serbian heritage.
The only other possible solution is internationally supervised autonomy. This is what should be supported by the US and EU, but I'm not sure they are brave enough to take this route.
Peter,
You definitively have Russia,which get very confrontational with the WEST. Hardly a day without a russian menace. I today's Wall Street Jpurnal there is a front page article "Putin treatens West". But as a diplomat observed "I have seldom seen such a consensus among Europeans and Americans in private about Russia as I have now". I think Russia miscalculates once again.
Behar - if you want to comment, then why don't you write something which is interesting but more importantly relevant. get you head out of the clouds and see the situation for what it really is. i'm sure that the USA will do it's best to blunt Russia's influence but if you think that Kosovo will become independent without Russai'a say so then you are sadly mistaken. the proof is in the pudding - the USA and EU would have recognised Kosovo by now if they could. they can't because only the UN can lend legitimacy to Kosovo's bid for independence. if i were you i'd keep my head in the clouds and dream that independence is possible without russia.
Its like a kid crying for a toy. It keeps crying even after they make it leave the store. Still hoping that the parents will turn around and go and buy it. Parents US and EU and the disgruntled child... well albans trying to steal KosovO.
Whats entertaining is that the albans do not realize that they are about to be abandoned because the West has failed and now this issue has become their Achilles heel on the political playing field.
In this new age of Internet its hard to hide the Truth.
PB: Bear is bear and grizzly is a huge bear- dangerous.
Your country Serbia has intentions to became a NATO and EU member-both created by USA and alliance. So, how is possible being member of NATO and EU and in same time a big supporter of Russia? There is a purpose why NATO was created and still exists.
No Vote this week = No Independence
Vote + Veto = No Independence
- either way this folly will be ended this week but both inevitable outcomes are NO Independence. You can follow that with NO ILLEGAL unilateral declarations, NO ILLEGAL recognition and NO Violence as KFOR is obligated to act and will!!!
I am looking forward to Saturday morning when it finally dawns that there could never be an independent entity by partitioning a UN sovereign state!!!
After reading the article about the newest mass grave (around 500 albanian bodies) I'm wondering how can anybody say that srbija is good to albanians and other minorities?
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=06&dd=04&nav_category=113&nav_id=41594
Who still thinks that Kosovo should be part of srbija? Can someone tell me how many mass graves with srbs in them are found last years?
Partition is the only outcome that will satisfy both sides. If Albanians don't want to deal in the future with Serbia's claim over Kosmet and be recognized by UN and the world, then, they ought to embrace the idea of partition. They get Presevo (Minus Bujanovac, Medvedja) For the North of Kosmet.
once again an Albanian is talking about myths and dreams ( meaning the Serbs!) but, let´s stick to the facts, boy!
it´s quite the opposite, that whole illyrian nonsense-thing is a big myth, one the Albanians need in order to creat something like a national identity, even if it is fabricated.
interesting, even albanina historians say it quite clear, but they are not heard by the "albanian camp" on B92.
Boris - PArtition i agree with, but only of Kosovo, no land swap of northern kosovo for presevo. why should there be a swap? the albanians claim it is there moral right to kosovo after the milosevic oppression. OK, so if we go along with that, then it was only the albanians in Kosovo that were oppressed so they have a right to the land they live on, NOT the serbian land in Kosovo, and NOT the serbian land of presevo where many albanians still live as they were not the targets of milosevic. statements like "swapping" presevo for northern kosovo show the real intentions and true nature of the albanian "independence" movement - a try to create a greater albania, nothing to do with a moral right to the land due to milosevic's actions. the albanians have sown there true colours.
I agree. Partition of only Kosmet is the fairest solution of all. However, Albanians will never go for it. You have to live here to know it. Only Presevo for the north Kosmet is a good deal for the sake of peace. What other cards do you have to play accept Russian veto?
If Russians Vetoe, and the West chooses to recognize Kosovo's unilateral moves, Kosovo Serbs will be the biggest losers of all.
oh god i'm tired of this. you albanians everyday here say any day now we will be independent, oh the inevitable, well its been like 3 years now and i see that posted everyday, when is it now? i mean lets go back to some other posts from a few months ago im pretty sure you guys said end of march was the latest and now its june, well when june is over and kosovo is still serbia, i would like to hear what your next prediction is, should be interesting.
It is funny how the anti-independence camp are shrinking evrey day! they started out by saying no contry supports independence of kosovo. then no partition because kosovo is a serbian craddle. and many other things. but one thing that strikes me the most is what made the serbs change their minds and agree to kosovo partititon. i was under the impression that the serbian heritage is located in the western part of kosovo and partially in central kosovo?! my question to all the serbian comentators in this site is: What ever happened to Kosovo as the craddle of your nation? there is nothing north of ibar that identifies kosovo as birth of your nation! except the people living there, ofcourse!
i feel sorry for some of the guys here for not thinking rational and being real to the fact that while kosovans have been told to propose state symbols, nstional flag and anthem. the serbs are still living in a dreamworld.
wake up my serbian friends and start loving your neighbors.
god bless you all
spunky
AHILLEAS, you are saying that the things are changing lately... Yes you are right more and more countries are supporting the Independence of Kosova, so the change is happening in Kosova's favor not in Serbia's. A lot of countries now are with kosova that just few years before were with Serbia, and this shows that things are changing in our favor.
Even your Country Greece supports Kosova's independence now. Bakoyanis is a really good friend of albanians. Greece finally lately is recognizing that she should rather be with Albanians as greeks and albanians are the longest living neighbors in the Balkans while the serbs came from Russia centuries later.
PB, KATe, Russia does not care at all for Serbia. What Russia wants out of this is to take advantage of the situation and take over Abkhazia and Osetia, thats all Russia wants, therefore at the end you the serbs might be left with nothing. Kosova independent, Russians might get Osetia so basically you the serbs will only be used by Russia for her own interests. Even your President Tadic said that he does not hope for Russia to help since Russia only looks for her own interests. So even your own president does not hope on Russia, so why do you stil dream ? Get over serbs, time to dream and live in myths is finished. Its time to face the reality already.
sorry to burst your bubble but the Serbs are only too well aware that Russia must do what is its best interets and that is why they will be vetoing such folly in the UN - because it is Russia's interest!!! The fact that Kosovo & Metohija will remain a Serbian province after this week will be something that Ceku & Sediju need to explain on Saturday 9th June when it becomes very evident that the US gave false hope in a promise that was not theirs to give. UN SC resolution 1244 will remain and as such it's full implementation will be the focus and using Blair words "Conform to it" !!!
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