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Thursday, 24.05.2007.

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"Unilateral independence means nothing to Serbia"

Serbia will nullify any document attempting to create another state on its territory, the Serbian PM has said.

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Jovan

pre 16 godina

dear "William",

K-Albanians were of course allowed to take part at the constitutional referendum!

and some, although a tiny little minority of them, even did so.

the problem is, in the serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija, the serbian government right now has no capability to organize a referendum, it´s under the control of UNMIK, don´t you know?
so, besides there was no infrastuctural possibility, furthermore in Kosovo´s albanian part of society there is an atmosphere of hatred and violence, and all those Albanians who would take part, would endanger themselves, since there are radical fanatics in Kosovo who up to the present day threat to kill every " traitor ".

so, there can´t be a serious doubt about the fact, that Albanians could take part, if they left the danger-zone, where serbian authorities have no jurisdiction.

you either didn´t know that, or you did not want to say it.

cvele

pre 16 godina

William...
Yes USA did declair independence from england over high taxation. But since ur an american u r forgeting that america was a colony. Not a part of a soverign nation. Probably still cant tell the difference.

cvele

pre 16 godina

IM SICK OF THIS BIASED POSTING. How does the post about a deck of cards relate to politics other then the fact that it insults DEMOCRATICALY ELECTED officials UNLIKE the terrorist CEKU who was given the post by the US much like Saddam in IRAQ.

As for kosovo its Serbia and all the people in it are Serbs. Thank you resolution 1244.

ORTHADOX KOSOVO

CCCC

Jason

pre 16 godina

There is no grounds or president to alter the territorial integrity of a soverign state. That's the end of the issue. As I've said here before, breeding a majority doesn't give you the right to steal a part of the country. If Russia veto's this I think Kosovo Albanians will be suprised by the reception a unilateral declaration of independance gets on the world stage. The US, who earlier said they would support such a declaration, doesn't seem as hot on the idea as more EU countries question giving Kosovo independance.

If the albanians in that region of Serbia are putting all their eggs in the US basket just let me give you a heads up. I'm a US citizen born and bred. I've been here all my life and have lived with our govt through numerous regimes. Our govt flip flops on policy and make promises it has no intension of keeping all the time. If the EU starts to waiver on supporting Kosovo albanians there is very little chance the US would support them. We can't risk already strained relations with many EU countries (and trading partners) for the sake of 1.5 million people that can't help us at all.

Our govt. will do what's right for themselves and no one else. By that I'm not saying that the kosovo albanians are in the right, frankly I don't think this should be an issue. You live in Serbia, you are a serbian citizen. My family came to the US from Italy, we are proud of our heritage but we are also Americans. We live here, work here, and raise families here. We'll never forget where we're from but we chose to be in America and we are Americans.

If your so proud of your heritage and want to claim to be albanians so much go back to albania. I've yet to see a poster here call themselves a Kosovar always an Albanian. Like I said there is no grounds here to give Kosovo independance. Sorry end of story.

Joe

pre 16 godina

Things are moving in the right direction for Kosovo. The Serbs get very nervous, even B92, who censures me automatically. What a sign of wickness!!!

alban

pre 16 godina

“Kosovo residents are full-fledged Serbian citizens,” Koštunica underlined adding that “their government, their parliament and their state institutions, according to the Serbian Constitution, were situated in Belgrade.”
says Mr.Kostunica.

How ignorant , first they revoked every right to albanians for years, then they kill them, then they try to free Kosova from albanians by mass exodus, and now, they are so eager to keep albanians as their citizens.
So Mr.Kostunica, as PM of your state , did you ever tryed to find, where are the killed albanians ( children among them ) hidden in mass graves in serbia, maybe next to your house, or you did not look after them, as a moderated comunist where have you been during the killing inocent albanian civilians from your army and paramiltants, did you speak then maybe, what can you tell about protection of very human rights about albanians, did you ever build one house , any house in Kosova, which, your beloved army tanks or psycho solders of yours destroyed them, did you ever spoke to any albanian , to say "SORRY" for what happend???,... or you do not have guts for that , becouse of the fact that you hate so much the albanians and you are so eager to keep them in Serbia, so by the time to finish where your Mr, Milosevic left.
So as an albanian from Kosova I say NO THANKS, Mr. Kostunica, I know very well how is to live under your rules, and serbian law,so I might have forgiven but never forgoten all the things that happend here and I am tired every 20 yrs to ask for something that is my GOD GIVEN RIGHT, so I want to be on my state KOSOVA , on my city and on my house, never to be worry that serbian army can or will destroy AGAIN, never to be worry that my kids will have the same fate of more than 2 Mil albanians during the serbian rule.
So Mr. Kostunica , be good PM , but in Serbia, becouse Kosova will have their own PM's, and Kosova pepole will have to dal with them , but never more with you.

all the best

Ahmet Isufi

pre 16 godina

"Unilateral independence means nothing to Serbia",
Is this guy for real, he has no saying what goes on in Kosova and he is addressing Kosovars to look towards Belgrade. Ops , I made a mistake, he is addressing K-Serbs not K-Albanians, because he wants the land but without K-Alb. When you buy a deck of cards you always find two JOKERS Wild along with 52 cards, but the jokers are tossed in trash can becasue are of no use when playing poker.Koshtunica and Nikoliq are the jokers of Serbia.

jenney

pre 16 godina

Independence state of Kosovo its the Recipt To unstable area that we can call it terror land , The secret of the israeli state its, that she will not agree to any palestinian state between her border and jordan

William

pre 16 godina

Kostunica said:
“Kosovo residents are full-fledged Serbian citizens,” Koštunica underlined adding that “their government, their parliament and their state institutions, according to the Serbian Constitution, were situated in Belgrade.”

Is Kostunica referring to the same "full fledged" Serbian citizens in Kosovo, who were not allowed to vote for the same constitution he mentions?
Then since these same "full fledged" Kosovo residents were not allowed to vote for their own constitution, why should they follow that constitution? How are they full fledged citizens if they're deprived from having their own say in the country's supreme law, the constitution?
The US declared its independence based on the taxation without representation issues. Then abiding the supreme law of a country, to which you are note allowed to have no say whatsoever is more than enough of a reason to declare independence.
I hope this comment gets published, since lots of comments haven't been published in the past by B92.

Jovan

pre 16 godina

1.8 million k-albanians won´t shake up the world-order, they can declare whatever they wish to declare...

it´s another question whether anybody is going to violate the UN-Charter on behalf of them.

and the US will sooner or later understand that they cannot breach the law...

EA

pre 16 godina

"Surprise" "Suprise" Serbia will annul any unilateral proclamation of Indipendence from Kosovar Albanians! He forgot the the Kosovar Albanians have annuled first the unilateral proclamation of the Serbian constitution.... This guy must be having bad dreams with open eyes. He still trying in vain to mislead the Serbian people that he is a fighter and will not give up Kosova. But the thing is that Europe and America are fed up with Kostunica and his policies. No one gives a damn what Kostunica think. Everyone knows about him. He has never been a real actor in the peace process between Serbs and Albanians and he will never be. He hasnt got the carisma of a real leader to take Serbia forward. I am not sure even if Russia really likes him at all even he is begging them. Really sad leader!

EA

pre 16 godina

"Surprise" "Suprise" Serbia will annul any unilateral proclamation of Indipendence from Kosovar Albanians! He forgot the the Kosovar Albanians have annuled first the unilateral proclamation of the Serbian constitution.... This guy must be having bad dreams with open eyes. He still trying in vain to mislead the Serbian people that he is a fighter and will not give up Kosova. But the thing is that Europe and America are fed up with Kostunica and his policies. No one gives a damn what Kostunica think. Everyone knows about him. He has never been a real actor in the peace process between Serbs and Albanians and he will never be. He hasnt got the carisma of a real leader to take Serbia forward. I am not sure even if Russia really likes him at all even he is begging them. Really sad leader!

Jovan

pre 16 godina

1.8 million k-albanians won´t shake up the world-order, they can declare whatever they wish to declare...

it´s another question whether anybody is going to violate the UN-Charter on behalf of them.

and the US will sooner or later understand that they cannot breach the law...

William

pre 16 godina

Kostunica said:
“Kosovo residents are full-fledged Serbian citizens,” Koštunica underlined adding that “their government, their parliament and their state institutions, according to the Serbian Constitution, were situated in Belgrade.”

Is Kostunica referring to the same "full fledged" Serbian citizens in Kosovo, who were not allowed to vote for the same constitution he mentions?
Then since these same "full fledged" Kosovo residents were not allowed to vote for their own constitution, why should they follow that constitution? How are they full fledged citizens if they're deprived from having their own say in the country's supreme law, the constitution?
The US declared its independence based on the taxation without representation issues. Then abiding the supreme law of a country, to which you are note allowed to have no say whatsoever is more than enough of a reason to declare independence.
I hope this comment gets published, since lots of comments haven't been published in the past by B92.

jenney

pre 16 godina

Independence state of Kosovo its the Recipt To unstable area that we can call it terror land , The secret of the israeli state its, that she will not agree to any palestinian state between her border and jordan

Ahmet Isufi

pre 16 godina

"Unilateral independence means nothing to Serbia",
Is this guy for real, he has no saying what goes on in Kosova and he is addressing Kosovars to look towards Belgrade. Ops , I made a mistake, he is addressing K-Serbs not K-Albanians, because he wants the land but without K-Alb. When you buy a deck of cards you always find two JOKERS Wild along with 52 cards, but the jokers are tossed in trash can becasue are of no use when playing poker.Koshtunica and Nikoliq are the jokers of Serbia.

alban

pre 16 godina

“Kosovo residents are full-fledged Serbian citizens,” Koštunica underlined adding that “their government, their parliament and their state institutions, according to the Serbian Constitution, were situated in Belgrade.”
says Mr.Kostunica.

How ignorant , first they revoked every right to albanians for years, then they kill them, then they try to free Kosova from albanians by mass exodus, and now, they are so eager to keep albanians as their citizens.
So Mr.Kostunica, as PM of your state , did you ever tryed to find, where are the killed albanians ( children among them ) hidden in mass graves in serbia, maybe next to your house, or you did not look after them, as a moderated comunist where have you been during the killing inocent albanian civilians from your army and paramiltants, did you speak then maybe, what can you tell about protection of very human rights about albanians, did you ever build one house , any house in Kosova, which, your beloved army tanks or psycho solders of yours destroyed them, did you ever spoke to any albanian , to say "SORRY" for what happend???,... or you do not have guts for that , becouse of the fact that you hate so much the albanians and you are so eager to keep them in Serbia, so by the time to finish where your Mr, Milosevic left.
So as an albanian from Kosova I say NO THANKS, Mr. Kostunica, I know very well how is to live under your rules, and serbian law,so I might have forgiven but never forgoten all the things that happend here and I am tired every 20 yrs to ask for something that is my GOD GIVEN RIGHT, so I want to be on my state KOSOVA , on my city and on my house, never to be worry that serbian army can or will destroy AGAIN, never to be worry that my kids will have the same fate of more than 2 Mil albanians during the serbian rule.
So Mr. Kostunica , be good PM , but in Serbia, becouse Kosova will have their own PM's, and Kosova pepole will have to dal with them , but never more with you.

all the best

Joe

pre 16 godina

Things are moving in the right direction for Kosovo. The Serbs get very nervous, even B92, who censures me automatically. What a sign of wickness!!!

Jason

pre 16 godina

There is no grounds or president to alter the territorial integrity of a soverign state. That's the end of the issue. As I've said here before, breeding a majority doesn't give you the right to steal a part of the country. If Russia veto's this I think Kosovo Albanians will be suprised by the reception a unilateral declaration of independance gets on the world stage. The US, who earlier said they would support such a declaration, doesn't seem as hot on the idea as more EU countries question giving Kosovo independance.

If the albanians in that region of Serbia are putting all their eggs in the US basket just let me give you a heads up. I'm a US citizen born and bred. I've been here all my life and have lived with our govt through numerous regimes. Our govt flip flops on policy and make promises it has no intension of keeping all the time. If the EU starts to waiver on supporting Kosovo albanians there is very little chance the US would support them. We can't risk already strained relations with many EU countries (and trading partners) for the sake of 1.5 million people that can't help us at all.

Our govt. will do what's right for themselves and no one else. By that I'm not saying that the kosovo albanians are in the right, frankly I don't think this should be an issue. You live in Serbia, you are a serbian citizen. My family came to the US from Italy, we are proud of our heritage but we are also Americans. We live here, work here, and raise families here. We'll never forget where we're from but we chose to be in America and we are Americans.

If your so proud of your heritage and want to claim to be albanians so much go back to albania. I've yet to see a poster here call themselves a Kosovar always an Albanian. Like I said there is no grounds here to give Kosovo independance. Sorry end of story.

cvele

pre 16 godina

William...
Yes USA did declair independence from england over high taxation. But since ur an american u r forgeting that america was a colony. Not a part of a soverign nation. Probably still cant tell the difference.

cvele

pre 16 godina

IM SICK OF THIS BIASED POSTING. How does the post about a deck of cards relate to politics other then the fact that it insults DEMOCRATICALY ELECTED officials UNLIKE the terrorist CEKU who was given the post by the US much like Saddam in IRAQ.

As for kosovo its Serbia and all the people in it are Serbs. Thank you resolution 1244.

ORTHADOX KOSOVO

CCCC

Jovan

pre 16 godina

dear "William",

K-Albanians were of course allowed to take part at the constitutional referendum!

and some, although a tiny little minority of them, even did so.

the problem is, in the serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija, the serbian government right now has no capability to organize a referendum, it´s under the control of UNMIK, don´t you know?
so, besides there was no infrastuctural possibility, furthermore in Kosovo´s albanian part of society there is an atmosphere of hatred and violence, and all those Albanians who would take part, would endanger themselves, since there are radical fanatics in Kosovo who up to the present day threat to kill every " traitor ".

so, there can´t be a serious doubt about the fact, that Albanians could take part, if they left the danger-zone, where serbian authorities have no jurisdiction.

you either didn´t know that, or you did not want to say it.

EA

pre 16 godina

"Surprise" "Suprise" Serbia will annul any unilateral proclamation of Indipendence from Kosovar Albanians! He forgot the the Kosovar Albanians have annuled first the unilateral proclamation of the Serbian constitution.... This guy must be having bad dreams with open eyes. He still trying in vain to mislead the Serbian people that he is a fighter and will not give up Kosova. But the thing is that Europe and America are fed up with Kostunica and his policies. No one gives a damn what Kostunica think. Everyone knows about him. He has never been a real actor in the peace process between Serbs and Albanians and he will never be. He hasnt got the carisma of a real leader to take Serbia forward. I am not sure even if Russia really likes him at all even he is begging them. Really sad leader!

Jovan

pre 16 godina

1.8 million k-albanians won´t shake up the world-order, they can declare whatever they wish to declare...

it´s another question whether anybody is going to violate the UN-Charter on behalf of them.

and the US will sooner or later understand that they cannot breach the law...

William

pre 16 godina

Kostunica said:
“Kosovo residents are full-fledged Serbian citizens,” Koštunica underlined adding that “their government, their parliament and their state institutions, according to the Serbian Constitution, were situated in Belgrade.”

Is Kostunica referring to the same "full fledged" Serbian citizens in Kosovo, who were not allowed to vote for the same constitution he mentions?
Then since these same "full fledged" Kosovo residents were not allowed to vote for their own constitution, why should they follow that constitution? How are they full fledged citizens if they're deprived from having their own say in the country's supreme law, the constitution?
The US declared its independence based on the taxation without representation issues. Then abiding the supreme law of a country, to which you are note allowed to have no say whatsoever is more than enough of a reason to declare independence.
I hope this comment gets published, since lots of comments haven't been published in the past by B92.

jenney

pre 16 godina

Independence state of Kosovo its the Recipt To unstable area that we can call it terror land , The secret of the israeli state its, that she will not agree to any palestinian state between her border and jordan

Ahmet Isufi

pre 16 godina

"Unilateral independence means nothing to Serbia",
Is this guy for real, he has no saying what goes on in Kosova and he is addressing Kosovars to look towards Belgrade. Ops , I made a mistake, he is addressing K-Serbs not K-Albanians, because he wants the land but without K-Alb. When you buy a deck of cards you always find two JOKERS Wild along with 52 cards, but the jokers are tossed in trash can becasue are of no use when playing poker.Koshtunica and Nikoliq are the jokers of Serbia.

alban

pre 16 godina

“Kosovo residents are full-fledged Serbian citizens,” Koštunica underlined adding that “their government, their parliament and their state institutions, according to the Serbian Constitution, were situated in Belgrade.”
says Mr.Kostunica.

How ignorant , first they revoked every right to albanians for years, then they kill them, then they try to free Kosova from albanians by mass exodus, and now, they are so eager to keep albanians as their citizens.
So Mr.Kostunica, as PM of your state , did you ever tryed to find, where are the killed albanians ( children among them ) hidden in mass graves in serbia, maybe next to your house, or you did not look after them, as a moderated comunist where have you been during the killing inocent albanian civilians from your army and paramiltants, did you speak then maybe, what can you tell about protection of very human rights about albanians, did you ever build one house , any house in Kosova, which, your beloved army tanks or psycho solders of yours destroyed them, did you ever spoke to any albanian , to say "SORRY" for what happend???,... or you do not have guts for that , becouse of the fact that you hate so much the albanians and you are so eager to keep them in Serbia, so by the time to finish where your Mr, Milosevic left.
So as an albanian from Kosova I say NO THANKS, Mr. Kostunica, I know very well how is to live under your rules, and serbian law,so I might have forgiven but never forgoten all the things that happend here and I am tired every 20 yrs to ask for something that is my GOD GIVEN RIGHT, so I want to be on my state KOSOVA , on my city and on my house, never to be worry that serbian army can or will destroy AGAIN, never to be worry that my kids will have the same fate of more than 2 Mil albanians during the serbian rule.
So Mr. Kostunica , be good PM , but in Serbia, becouse Kosova will have their own PM's, and Kosova pepole will have to dal with them , but never more with you.

all the best

Joe

pre 16 godina

Things are moving in the right direction for Kosovo. The Serbs get very nervous, even B92, who censures me automatically. What a sign of wickness!!!

Jason

pre 16 godina

There is no grounds or president to alter the territorial integrity of a soverign state. That's the end of the issue. As I've said here before, breeding a majority doesn't give you the right to steal a part of the country. If Russia veto's this I think Kosovo Albanians will be suprised by the reception a unilateral declaration of independance gets on the world stage. The US, who earlier said they would support such a declaration, doesn't seem as hot on the idea as more EU countries question giving Kosovo independance.

If the albanians in that region of Serbia are putting all their eggs in the US basket just let me give you a heads up. I'm a US citizen born and bred. I've been here all my life and have lived with our govt through numerous regimes. Our govt flip flops on policy and make promises it has no intension of keeping all the time. If the EU starts to waiver on supporting Kosovo albanians there is very little chance the US would support them. We can't risk already strained relations with many EU countries (and trading partners) for the sake of 1.5 million people that can't help us at all.

Our govt. will do what's right for themselves and no one else. By that I'm not saying that the kosovo albanians are in the right, frankly I don't think this should be an issue. You live in Serbia, you are a serbian citizen. My family came to the US from Italy, we are proud of our heritage but we are also Americans. We live here, work here, and raise families here. We'll never forget where we're from but we chose to be in America and we are Americans.

If your so proud of your heritage and want to claim to be albanians so much go back to albania. I've yet to see a poster here call themselves a Kosovar always an Albanian. Like I said there is no grounds here to give Kosovo independance. Sorry end of story.

cvele

pre 16 godina

William...
Yes USA did declair independence from england over high taxation. But since ur an american u r forgeting that america was a colony. Not a part of a soverign nation. Probably still cant tell the difference.

cvele

pre 16 godina

IM SICK OF THIS BIASED POSTING. How does the post about a deck of cards relate to politics other then the fact that it insults DEMOCRATICALY ELECTED officials UNLIKE the terrorist CEKU who was given the post by the US much like Saddam in IRAQ.

As for kosovo its Serbia and all the people in it are Serbs. Thank you resolution 1244.

ORTHADOX KOSOVO

CCCC

Jovan

pre 16 godina

dear "William",

K-Albanians were of course allowed to take part at the constitutional referendum!

and some, although a tiny little minority of them, even did so.

the problem is, in the serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija, the serbian government right now has no capability to organize a referendum, it´s under the control of UNMIK, don´t you know?
so, besides there was no infrastuctural possibility, furthermore in Kosovo´s albanian part of society there is an atmosphere of hatred and violence, and all those Albanians who would take part, would endanger themselves, since there are radical fanatics in Kosovo who up to the present day threat to kill every " traitor ".

so, there can´t be a serious doubt about the fact, that Albanians could take part, if they left the danger-zone, where serbian authorities have no jurisdiction.

you either didn´t know that, or you did not want to say it.