EU supports pro-European coalition

Oh goodie - he can once again congratulate Serbia on their Eurovision win and infer that it will somehow make them more accepting of the loss of Kosovo.

Loss of Kosovo?

It is not possible to lose something which is not yours! 94 % of Kosovo's population are not Serbs.

Don't forget to read about the Swedesh female officer who leaked NATO/KFOR documents(many thousands) to Serbia and her Serbian lover working as interpreter and spy in UNMIK. I hope this shed light on 2004 riots.

Google News:

http://www.thelocal.se/7306/20070514/

KATE, PRINCIP and others, I hope that now you see that USA and EU are the ones who influence the politics in Serbia, not Russia.
And if EU and USA can make these influeneces in your country and Russia cant then what do you think about Kosova?
Dont you feel the heat already that also for the Kosova status it will be the EU and USA who decide not Russia.
I feel sorry for you that Russia is leaving you alone more and more every day... Do you feel sorry for yourselves?

Afrim and ??? - Yet again, I am NOT Serbian.
Both of you have come up with points totally unrelated to the legal ownership of Kosovo. You are really struggling to make valid arguments.
"94% of people are Albanian" - is that the criteria of ownership of land? Kosovo is a province within a nation therefore the % of population as a whole is far far lower than that.
Besides which you can't nominate a nationality based on population make-up! Other European nations would lose major chunks of territory tomorrow if this was the case.

Kate, you are right! but you are forgeting one important point:

other countries, are not killing 10 000 civilians, expelling 1 million, etc etc. like Serbia whose politics for the last century has been to eliminate albanians from Kosova.

I mean people have their own kids taken by social services if they abuse them!

Serbia is the one that broke international law in the 90s, therefore it lost its right to hide behind internaional law. Where were you in 1999? where you protesting against the killing of civilians? or cheering??

Kate, people mistake you for a serb because of the blatant dislke for albanians that exudes from your comments.

kate - the UK has always said (since the end of the empire that is) that if a majority of Northern Irish voted for independence or re-integration to the Republic they would honour that. The reason NI has not become indpendent so far is that there was no majority there in favour - the IRA represented a minority population which sought legitimacy for indepependence through historical and emotional claims - but that could never work if a majority in the "province" were against. I think that much of this logic applies to Kosovo which was never an integral part of Serbia - was always a distinct entity in itself and of which more than 90% of the population want out.

The EU must also stop imposing on the external policy of Serbia. The EU and NATO must now acknowledge that democratic Serbia cannot be bombed for simply asserting its sovereignty over its own territory.

Kosovo is as much part of Serbia as Canterbury is part of England or Washington is part of the US. Serbia should not use force but remember that Mrs Thatcher defended the UK's ownership of the Falklands by force - it must be acknowledged that Serbia would be within its rights if it did defend the integrity guaranteed under 1244. However, more importantly (and pragmatically) Serbia shoud be acknowledged to be in a position to assert its rights by legal means and should be supported and respected if it offers autonomy to Kosovo.

To say that Kosovo is Albanian is what is wrong here. Albania is a different country. I doubt that KAlbanians will ever be anything other than Albanians in practice, in which case another country based on ethnicity is a very dangerous precedent.

Yes that's right, but lets not talk about the fact that Kosovo is currently a sesspool for human trafficking, drug trafficking and any other forms of illegality, yes lets not mention that because a lot of Albanians want to take a piece of someone elses country due to demographics. Yes, lets not talk about the formation of the KLA which has been a threat there for quite a long time. Lets ignore all of that stuff and focus on the fact that Kosovar Albanians want independence or else theres gonna be violence. Wow, what a beatiful democracy!

nikshala...and Croatia didn't kill many 1000 Serbs and expel 100,000+ Serbs from Kraijna?? which was much like Kosovo over 90% populated by the ethnic population.. these people still haven’t returned back (some have been refugees for more than a decade in Serbia) and they STILL don’t have a chance to return.. you did return to your homes.. don't give me lame excuses like that...you know it is all politics..and US can do and support who ever they want..and they have chosen Croatia, Bosnia and Albania for several reasons I will not go into here... please don't talk about Serbia like it’s the only culprit in the wars. Hypocrisy has replaced democracy since many many years ago.

To Nikshala - Actually Nato broke international law in 1999. And the figure of 10,000 is a news agency figure. The UN puts the figure around 5,000 including combatants.
I recognise that there were atrocities carried out in Kosovo and agree that each one should be answered for, regardless of the ethnicity of the victim or perpetrator.
I also believe that the vast majority of people are basically good (call me an optimist) and just want to live peaceful lives and build a future for their children.
But there were terrible crimes committed by all sides (including the 'international community', come to that).

I notice you never mention those killed by the KLA which included other Albanians as well as Serbs, Roma and others.
2,000 people have gone missing or been murdered after Kosovo was 'liberated' - what about those people?
What about the young girls and women who have been forced into prostitution throughout Europe and trafficked through Kosovo?
And other terrible crimes carried out since 1999 such as the destruction of churches and monasteries and the systematic attempt to remove all trace of Serbian heritage and push out all Serbs?

Also, international policy is not based on punishment. Resolution 1244 was drawn up after the events in 1999 and agred by all parties. UN Charter Chapter 7 re. security measures was not invoked at the time, and as there are virtually no Serbs in Kosovo, this mitigation cannot now be called on to take land from Serbia.

To 'european' - Saying and doing are two totally different things. And your comparison with the IRA would have seen their violent activities in the 80s on the British mainland and in NI rewarded with independence. But there was never any talk of giving way to terrorists (who incidentally killed more Brits over the years than were killed on 9/11).

And to you both. I am genuinely interested to know what will happen if you do not get independence and are warned by the US not to declare independence unilaterally. What then??

It's all over the Serbs as reiterated by the western hemisphere needs to accept the new fate of Kosova there is no going back. Please don't forget that a lot of America's money purred into Kosova, The Americans have built mega army camps and they will not give that up to Serbia an ally of Russia. DONE Independent Kosovo

Yes, the EU must be very satisfied with their control of certain Serbian political parties! These parties call themselves democratic but what does that mean? Does democratic = FREEDOM, WILL OF THE PEOPLE, JUSTICE, RIGHT? I say NO! In the U.S. we have democracy (representative republic) but no FREEDOM, WILL OF THE PEOPLE OR JUSTICE. I don't support or like any policital parties (in the U.S. or Serbia) and only a handful of politicians historically are worth anything (TR,CHURCHILL,PUTIN). These parties are at least heavily influenced by certain EU countries and because of that I question their representation of the Serbian people. I personally would like to see a constitutional monarchy with a king as executive sharing power with a parliament. Democracy (American) as is practiced now is to inefficient and susceptible to corruption from the outside & inside!

as a serb..i must agree with Nehat Krasniqi.. it has nothing to do with..as a result of our bad politics in the 90s we lost kosovo..its bcoz of the US political agenda and personal interest ..as always

What happened is irrelevant to the issue at hand. However, since people are brining it up, let me say what happened... the albanians were about 60% of the population of kosovo in the 1950s... now they are in the 90s%. They are changing the cultural landscape there and are doing their best to eradicate all non-albanians.

As for the war - the Serbs only fought against KLA targets and places that supported the KLA. There were many places in Kosovo where the KLA was not being supported - kamenica, gnjilane, istok, and other predominantly albanian places... they had no violence prior to the bombing because they were not terrorizing and threatening the integrity of the country.

How all this displacement? Because of the bombing. The consequence of the bombing was a serbian relation against the albanians. US state department officials knew this, so NATO actually did not help the albanians. Life in Kosovo today is worse than it was in 1998.

It is becoming apparent that the political solution we are heading towards with this Kosovo backwater is a Taiwan scenario.No European country will recognize Kosovo independence without a UNSC Resolution and Serbia will never disavow its legal right to Kosovo just as China legally regards Taiwan as a province of China and reserves the right to reintegrate it by all means.If anybody engages in violence NATO should crush them like they are doing to the Taliban in Afghanistan or send the captured ones to Guantanamo.Threats or acts of violence should be seen as the rantings/workings of criminals and barbarians

Ok people can we get a few things straight here.

Kosovo - Birthplace of serbian culture language and history

Albanians have lived there for centuarys in PEACE!! yes all you expansionist the fact is serbs and albanians got along once.
Since the communists gave autononmy to kosovo albanians have abused it to get rid of serbs, there is not doubt of that since the population has been falling for decades.
THAT coupled with the fact that the place has one of the higest birth rates in the world along with crime rate and (a astonishingly high domestic violence rate) is genreally a centre of islamism means that the albanians living there have been able to mount a resistance.
Of course they want their own country! They will want one in macedonia too and maybe even montenegro where they have majority !
But why should they have it purely based on numbers? its reidicules that in this day and age a high birth rate can buy you a country, clearly the greatist flaw of democracy.

I have to congratulate you Kate for as ever putting some commentators right about the real facts regarding Kosovo & Metohija - I thank you for your interest and deep understading of the issue - I say that as a British born Serb and I am certain that other Serb commentators from Serbia & throughout the diaspora thank you for the continued interets and true and well researched comments helping to ensure the truth is heard over the lies.

Zoran (I personally would like to see a constitutional monarchy with a king as executive sharing power with a parliament.)

I believe that this is one of the most intelligent comments that I have read while visiting this site. Many comments here usually are focused on lobbying against one side or another. Crown Prince Alexander II is the only true neutral figure in Serbia today that bridges the gaps between all citizens regardless of religion or political beliefs. He is the only individual that has the best interest of all of Serbia’s citizens. I also strongly believe at this time more than ever that implementation of constitutional monarchy is the best possible solution for the long-term future of Serbia. Politicians in Serbia are shifting their position with the changing zephyrs. Establishing constitutional monarchy will make Serbia stronger and much more respected within the world community.

The arguments by Ms. ???? are laughable. I think ???? is so blinded by her hate of Serbs that it is seriously clouding her judgement. Let me point out that Kosovo was never, ever, Albanian. That is why all the towns, streets, monasteries, churches, graves, and even the name Kosovo (which is a Serbian word for Blackbirds), are Serbian (the word 'kosova' means nothing, in albanian or Serbian languages). There is virtually no trace of Albanian in Kosovo, and Albanians hate when you mention this fact. It's the truth, deal with it. If Kosovo really was Albanian, they would not have cheered in 1999 when NATO was destroying it and dropping depleted uranium, cluster bombs, and God knows what else on the province. Nobody cheers for the destruction of something that belongs to them - there is your proof that Kosovo is not Albanian.
Also, what does a Swedish woman's romance with a Serbian guy have to do with anything here, and what does it prove?

Don't forget though Nehat that US Army yes poured alot of money into Kosovo and yes they did build a super camp here but they are steadliy down sizing like Bosnia and eventually will become a EU base like in Bosnia. We Americans are famous for spending money and leaving. US has not more concerns for the balkans there mission is Iraq and Afganistan. If there is another conflict there they won't participate it will be left up to the Euro Corps Forces not US. Been to the balkans twice never returns for a 3rd tour. How is Afganistan treating you Nehat?

Oh goodie - he can once again congratulate Serbia on their Eurovision win and infer that it will somehow make them more accepting of the loss of Kosovo.

Loss of Kosovo?

It is not possible to lose something which is not yours! 94 % of Kosovo's population are not Serbs.

Don't forget to read about the Swedesh female officer who leaked NATO/KFOR documents(many thousands) to Serbia and her Serbian lover working as interpreter and spy in UNMIK. I hope this shed light on 2004 riots.

Google News:

http://www.thelocal.se/7306/20070514/

KATE, PRINCIP and others, I hope that now you see that USA and EU are the ones who influence the politics in Serbia, not Russia.
And if EU and USA can make these influeneces in your country and Russia cant then what do you think about Kosova?
Dont you feel the heat already that also for the Kosova status it will be the EU and USA who decide not Russia.
I feel sorry for you that Russia is leaving you alone more and more every day... Do you feel sorry for yourselves?

Afrim and ??? - Yet again, I am NOT Serbian.
Both of you have come up with points totally unrelated to the legal ownership of Kosovo. You are really struggling to make valid arguments.
"94% of people are Albanian" - is that the criteria of ownership of land? Kosovo is a province within a nation therefore the % of population as a whole is far far lower than that.
Besides which you can't nominate a nationality based on population make-up! Other European nations would lose major chunks of territory tomorrow if this was the case.

Kate, you are right! but you are forgeting one important point:

other countries, are not killing 10 000 civilians, expelling 1 million, etc etc. like Serbia whose politics for the last century has been to eliminate albanians from Kosova.

I mean people have their own kids taken by social services if they abuse them!

Serbia is the one that broke international law in the 90s, therefore it lost its right to hide behind internaional law. Where were you in 1999? where you protesting against the killing of civilians? or cheering??

Kate, people mistake you for a serb because of the blatant dislke for albanians that exudes from your comments.

kate - the UK has always said (since the end of the empire that is) that if a majority of Northern Irish voted for independence or re-integration to the Republic they would honour that. The reason NI has not become indpendent so far is that there was no majority there in favour - the IRA represented a minority population which sought legitimacy for indepependence through historical and emotional claims - but that could never work if a majority in the "province" were against. I think that much of this logic applies to Kosovo which was never an integral part of Serbia - was always a distinct entity in itself and of which more than 90% of the population want out.

The EU must also stop imposing on the external policy of Serbia. The EU and NATO must now acknowledge that democratic Serbia cannot be bombed for simply asserting its sovereignty over its own territory.

Kosovo is as much part of Serbia as Canterbury is part of England or Washington is part of the US. Serbia should not use force but remember that Mrs Thatcher defended the UK's ownership of the Falklands by force - it must be acknowledged that Serbia would be within its rights if it did defend the integrity guaranteed under 1244. However, more importantly (and pragmatically) Serbia shoud be acknowledged to be in a position to assert its rights by legal means and should be supported and respected if it offers autonomy to Kosovo.

To say that Kosovo is Albanian is what is wrong here. Albania is a different country. I doubt that KAlbanians will ever be anything other than Albanians in practice, in which case another country based on ethnicity is a very dangerous precedent.

Yes that's right, but lets not talk about the fact that Kosovo is currently a sesspool for human trafficking, drug trafficking and any other forms of illegality, yes lets not mention that because a lot of Albanians want to take a piece of someone elses country due to demographics. Yes, lets not talk about the formation of the KLA which has been a threat there for quite a long time. Lets ignore all of that stuff and focus on the fact that Kosovar Albanians want independence or else theres gonna be violence. Wow, what a beatiful democracy!

nikshala...and Croatia didn't kill many 1000 Serbs and expel 100,000+ Serbs from Kraijna?? which was much like Kosovo over 90% populated by the ethnic population.. these people still haven’t returned back (some have been refugees for more than a decade in Serbia) and they STILL don’t have a chance to return.. you did return to your homes.. don't give me lame excuses like that...you know it is all politics..and US can do and support who ever they want..and they have chosen Croatia, Bosnia and Albania for several reasons I will not go into here... please don't talk about Serbia like it’s the only culprit in the wars. Hypocrisy has replaced democracy since many many years ago.

To Nikshala - Actually Nato broke international law in 1999. And the figure of 10,000 is a news agency figure. The UN puts the figure around 5,000 including combatants.
I recognise that there were atrocities carried out in Kosovo and agree that each one should be answered for, regardless of the ethnicity of the victim or perpetrator.
I also believe that the vast majority of people are basically good (call me an optimist) and just want to live peaceful lives and build a future for their children.
But there were terrible crimes committed by all sides (including the 'international community', come to that).

I notice you never mention those killed by the KLA which included other Albanians as well as Serbs, Roma and others.
2,000 people have gone missing or been murdered after Kosovo was 'liberated' - what about those people?
What about the young girls and women who have been forced into prostitution throughout Europe and trafficked through Kosovo?
And other terrible crimes carried out since 1999 such as the destruction of churches and monasteries and the systematic attempt to remove all trace of Serbian heritage and push out all Serbs?

Also, international policy is not based on punishment. Resolution 1244 was drawn up after the events in 1999 and agred by all parties. UN Charter Chapter 7 re. security measures was not invoked at the time, and as there are virtually no Serbs in Kosovo, this mitigation cannot now be called on to take land from Serbia.

To 'european' - Saying and doing are two totally different things. And your comparison with the IRA would have seen their violent activities in the 80s on the British mainland and in NI rewarded with independence. But there was never any talk of giving way to terrorists (who incidentally killed more Brits over the years than were killed on 9/11).

And to you both. I am genuinely interested to know what will happen if you do not get independence and are warned by the US not to declare independence unilaterally. What then??

It's all over the Serbs as reiterated by the western hemisphere needs to accept the new fate of Kosova there is no going back. Please don't forget that a lot of America's money purred into Kosova, The Americans have built mega army camps and they will not give that up to Serbia an ally of Russia. DONE Independent Kosovo

Yes, the EU must be very satisfied with their control of certain Serbian political parties! These parties call themselves democratic but what does that mean? Does democratic = FREEDOM, WILL OF THE PEOPLE, JUSTICE, RIGHT? I say NO! In the U.S. we have democracy (representative republic) but no FREEDOM, WILL OF THE PEOPLE OR JUSTICE. I don't support or like any policital parties (in the U.S. or Serbia) and only a handful of politicians historically are worth anything (TR,CHURCHILL,PUTIN). These parties are at least heavily influenced by certain EU countries and because of that I question their representation of the Serbian people. I personally would like to see a constitutional monarchy with a king as executive sharing power with a parliament. Democracy (American) as is practiced now is to inefficient and susceptible to corruption from the outside & inside!

as a serb..i must agree with Nehat Krasniqi.. it has nothing to do with..as a result of our bad politics in the 90s we lost kosovo..its bcoz of the US political agenda and personal interest ..as always

What happened is irrelevant to the issue at hand. However, since people are brining it up, let me say what happened... the albanians were about 60% of the population of kosovo in the 1950s... now they are in the 90s%. They are changing the cultural landscape there and are doing their best to eradicate all non-albanians.

As for the war - the Serbs only fought against KLA targets and places that supported the KLA. There were many places in Kosovo where the KLA was not being supported - kamenica, gnjilane, istok, and other predominantly albanian places... they had no violence prior to the bombing because they were not terrorizing and threatening the integrity of the country.

How all this displacement? Because of the bombing. The consequence of the bombing was a serbian relation against the albanians. US state department officials knew this, so NATO actually did not help the albanians. Life in Kosovo today is worse than it was in 1998.

It is becoming apparent that the political solution we are heading towards with this Kosovo backwater is a Taiwan scenario.No European country will recognize Kosovo independence without a UNSC Resolution and Serbia will never disavow its legal right to Kosovo just as China legally regards Taiwan as a province of China and reserves the right to reintegrate it by all means.If anybody engages in violence NATO should crush them like they are doing to the Taliban in Afghanistan or send the captured ones to Guantanamo.Threats or acts of violence should be seen as the rantings/workings of criminals and barbarians

Ok people can we get a few things straight here.

Kosovo - Birthplace of serbian culture language and history

Albanians have lived there for centuarys in PEACE!! yes all you expansionist the fact is serbs and albanians got along once.
Since the communists gave autononmy to kosovo albanians have abused it to get rid of serbs, there is not doubt of that since the population has been falling for decades.
THAT coupled with the fact that the place has one of the higest birth rates in the world along with crime rate and (a astonishingly high domestic violence rate) is genreally a centre of islamism means that the albanians living there have been able to mount a resistance.
Of course they want their own country! They will want one in macedonia too and maybe even montenegro where they have majority !
But why should they have it purely based on numbers? its reidicules that in this day and age a high birth rate can buy you a country, clearly the greatist flaw of democracy.

I have to congratulate you Kate for as ever putting some commentators right about the real facts regarding Kosovo & Metohija - I thank you for your interest and deep understading of the issue - I say that as a British born Serb and I am certain that other Serb commentators from Serbia & throughout the diaspora thank you for the continued interets and true and well researched comments helping to ensure the truth is heard over the lies.

Zoran (I personally would like to see a constitutional monarchy with a king as executive sharing power with a parliament.)

I believe that this is one of the most intelligent comments that I have read while visiting this site. Many comments here usually are focused on lobbying against one side or another. Crown Prince Alexander II is the only true neutral figure in Serbia today that bridges the gaps between all citizens regardless of religion or political beliefs. He is the only individual that has the best interest of all of Serbia’s citizens. I also strongly believe at this time more than ever that implementation of constitutional monarchy is the best possible solution for the long-term future of Serbia. Politicians in Serbia are shifting their position with the changing zephyrs. Establishing constitutional monarchy will make Serbia stronger and much more respected within the world community.

The arguments by Ms. ???? are laughable. I think ???? is so blinded by her hate of Serbs that it is seriously clouding her judgement. Let me point out that Kosovo was never, ever, Albanian. That is why all the towns, streets, monasteries, churches, graves, and even the name Kosovo (which is a Serbian word for Blackbirds), are Serbian (the word 'kosova' means nothing, in albanian or Serbian languages). There is virtually no trace of Albanian in Kosovo, and Albanians hate when you mention this fact. It's the truth, deal with it. If Kosovo really was Albanian, they would not have cheered in 1999 when NATO was destroying it and dropping depleted uranium, cluster bombs, and God knows what else on the province. Nobody cheers for the destruction of something that belongs to them - there is your proof that Kosovo is not Albanian.
Also, what does a Swedish woman's romance with a Serbian guy have to do with anything here, and what does it prove?

Don't forget though Nehat that US Army yes poured alot of money into Kosovo and yes they did build a super camp here but they are steadliy down sizing like Bosnia and eventually will become a EU base like in Bosnia. We Americans are famous for spending money and leaving. US has not more concerns for the balkans there mission is Iraq and Afganistan. If there is another conflict there they won't participate it will be left up to the Euro Corps Forces not US. Been to the balkans twice never returns for a 3rd tour. How is Afganistan treating you Nehat?