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Friday, 04.05.2007.

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Germany opposes unilateral declarations

Germany's defense minister appealed for patience Thursday at the start of a visit to Kosovo.

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toni

pre 17 godina

Yes but Albanians were different religion before that Albanians were Christian Catholic and Orthodox faith, you have older buildings in Kosovo to estimate to who belong Kosovo, if you had Serbian rule over Kosovo in 12 century that does not prove that Kosovo population was Serbian.
Serbia Ruled lot of Town and villages around Balkan through the Local Lords they could be Albanians Greeks or others if you know how the system of empires work you will understand this.

Cvele

pre 17 godina

Toni...
Thx for clearing up the fact we have been fighitng for our Kosovo since the 12th century. As far as I know, there were no muslims there at that time.

toni

pre 17 godina

To zoran
Serbia can not liberate one country from own citizens when Serbian troops come in to Kosovo Kosovo Capital city Shkup were liberated from Turks it was in Albanian hands Serbs and others attack Albanians not thee Turks that does not call liberation that’s from one occupation to other.
And can you Explain to us how many years Kosovo was under Serbian rule and you can see it if you search the dates of your main Monasteries were build in Kosovo from wich date you start building your Monasteries until Otoman Occupation.
Serbian Kingdom achieved recognition. In 1219
Saint Archaengel near Prizren in 1352
Gracanica in 1335
These are the years when Serbia had full control over Kosovo and lost it in 28-Jun -1389 and never had anything to do with Kosovo until 1912.
Serbia Ruled Kosovo about 300 years all together and that was not liberation for Kosovo people but from one occupation to other one.

alban

pre 17 godina

"..Great guess Nikshala! Serbia liberated Kosovo from the Turks, as you well should know, not Albania. They were liberating land that had been part of their country for centuries. No comparison between 1912 and and Napoleon's conquest of Europe between 1800-1815...."

Hey , Zoran, I think you have mistaken the history buddy, there was a fight betwen allies forces of Balkan against otoman forces,not the Serb forces and the war...was lost...check better history books please, becouse probably it does not write , in your history books when Scanderbeg, wanted to help Huniadi, the Hungarian king, asked to cross through Serbia so he could get in time there , and you probably do not know, that Serbian king, did not allow to pass through Setrbian territory, so Hungarians lost the war and king Huniadi was killed in that war also , now the question is , if the Serbs would not join the Balkan allies on that lost war 600 years ago , maybe the war would have been won ...:)

Jorge Garcia

pre 17 godina

Jung is definitely playing his cards right. Although acceptance of the Ahtissari plan (which I find in need of modification) would make things simpler for the EU and the US, it is important to not view it as a fait accompli, and, therefore, to view the region as entering into a "crisis" if the plan is rejected. I praise Jung for a very measured and calculating approach that extends the possibility of true compromise in the short future in case an immediate accord is not tenable.

Zoran

pre 17 godina

Great guess Nikshala! Serbia liberated Kosovo from the Turks, as you well should know, not Albania. They were liberating land that had been part of their country for centuries. No comparison between 1912 and and Napoleon's conquest of Europe between 1800-1815

EA

pre 17 godina

What a "sensational" news from B92. Just to give a better picture that Germany like the rest of Europe and America have give a full support to Ahtisari Plan which envisage a supervised Kosova independence with guaranteed rights for the minorities in Kosova. Of course because the international efforts to persuade the Russians to join the club of the world that is why Germany cautious. But Kosovar Albanians will not be waiting for ever Russia for change heart. If Russia doesnt want to come on board it will be a double humiliation for them first and Serbia second. Kosova in few weeks time will the world's newest state.

Nick

pre 17 godina

Germany will follows the US's lead.

It is clear Serbia does not want us as their citizens (as proven by an earlier statement of PM Kostunica), they only want the land to show up in future maps.

Serbia cannot afford us.

nikshala

pre 17 godina

Zoran

"The conquers have come to "liberate" as they stand on the ruins of the conquered. When Napoleon invaded countries he would clam that they were being "liberated"." - Could the same be said for Serbia in 1912 when they 'liberated' Kosovo??

No ... let me guess - Kosovo has always and will always be serbian!

Shukri Gashi

pre 17 godina

Yes, Germany says it because they are convinced that Ahtisari plan will pass security council, so it's not necessary to do it. If things go wrong with the plan, then you can see what is going to happen with Germany policy. I hope you didn't forget Mr. Zobel comments. As Mr. Frid said "Kosova will be independent in one or another form, the best for serbs is that process be controlled!"

Zoran

pre 17 godina

The conquers have come to "liberate" as they stand on the ruins of the conquered. When Napoleon invaded countries he would clam that they were being "liberated". German troops on Serbian soil is a travesty, their claim that they are "peacekeepers" is a farce! Soon the German peacekeepers will be in Israel protecting the Jews from the Arabs, or so they will claim.

massimo

pre 17 godina

Dear Z,
just to point out that the Slovenia/Croatia independence recognition by the International Community had been only a form of justice and put an end to a colonial dictatorship called Yugoslavia.

To Raso,
by citing South Serbia do you mean Presevo, Medvedjia and Bujanovac?

raso

pre 17 godina

oh come on, it´s the last albanian mistake everybody waits for, especially in belgrades politics staff & military.

the usa can´t and won´t exchange former bosnia, or georgia, or ukraine or azerbaidschan or westsahara for kosovo.

we´ve all solved together the nonsense anouncements so far (eu-acknowledgement of indiependence, un-acknowledgement of indiependence, albanian violance & an one-way-ticket to kukes, eu-membership for kosovo, nato-membership for kosovo)! don´t make a setback to new fairytales of 1001 nights.

let´s stop wasting time and discuss the future autonomy of south-serbia!

Z

pre 17 godina

Yes, Gernamy is careful now. They do not want anybody else to do the same mistake with Kosovo as they did with Croatia in 91' and thus planted some small seeds of disconetent.

Z

pre 17 godina

Yes, Gernamy is careful now. They do not want anybody else to do the same mistake with Kosovo as they did with Croatia in 91' and thus planted some small seeds of disconetent.

raso

pre 17 godina

oh come on, it´s the last albanian mistake everybody waits for, especially in belgrades politics staff & military.

the usa can´t and won´t exchange former bosnia, or georgia, or ukraine or azerbaidschan or westsahara for kosovo.

we´ve all solved together the nonsense anouncements so far (eu-acknowledgement of indiependence, un-acknowledgement of indiependence, albanian violance & an one-way-ticket to kukes, eu-membership for kosovo, nato-membership for kosovo)! don´t make a setback to new fairytales of 1001 nights.

let´s stop wasting time and discuss the future autonomy of south-serbia!

Shukri Gashi

pre 17 godina

Yes, Germany says it because they are convinced that Ahtisari plan will pass security council, so it's not necessary to do it. If things go wrong with the plan, then you can see what is going to happen with Germany policy. I hope you didn't forget Mr. Zobel comments. As Mr. Frid said "Kosova will be independent in one or another form, the best for serbs is that process be controlled!"

Zoran

pre 17 godina

The conquers have come to "liberate" as they stand on the ruins of the conquered. When Napoleon invaded countries he would clam that they were being "liberated". German troops on Serbian soil is a travesty, their claim that they are "peacekeepers" is a farce! Soon the German peacekeepers will be in Israel protecting the Jews from the Arabs, or so they will claim.

massimo

pre 17 godina

Dear Z,
just to point out that the Slovenia/Croatia independence recognition by the International Community had been only a form of justice and put an end to a colonial dictatorship called Yugoslavia.

To Raso,
by citing South Serbia do you mean Presevo, Medvedjia and Bujanovac?

nikshala

pre 17 godina

Zoran

"The conquers have come to "liberate" as they stand on the ruins of the conquered. When Napoleon invaded countries he would clam that they were being "liberated"." - Could the same be said for Serbia in 1912 when they 'liberated' Kosovo??

No ... let me guess - Kosovo has always and will always be serbian!

Nick

pre 17 godina

Germany will follows the US's lead.

It is clear Serbia does not want us as their citizens (as proven by an earlier statement of PM Kostunica), they only want the land to show up in future maps.

Serbia cannot afford us.

EA

pre 17 godina

What a "sensational" news from B92. Just to give a better picture that Germany like the rest of Europe and America have give a full support to Ahtisari Plan which envisage a supervised Kosova independence with guaranteed rights for the minorities in Kosova. Of course because the international efforts to persuade the Russians to join the club of the world that is why Germany cautious. But Kosovar Albanians will not be waiting for ever Russia for change heart. If Russia doesnt want to come on board it will be a double humiliation for them first and Serbia second. Kosova in few weeks time will the world's newest state.

Zoran

pre 17 godina

Great guess Nikshala! Serbia liberated Kosovo from the Turks, as you well should know, not Albania. They were liberating land that had been part of their country for centuries. No comparison between 1912 and and Napoleon's conquest of Europe between 1800-1815

Jorge Garcia

pre 17 godina

Jung is definitely playing his cards right. Although acceptance of the Ahtissari plan (which I find in need of modification) would make things simpler for the EU and the US, it is important to not view it as a fait accompli, and, therefore, to view the region as entering into a "crisis" if the plan is rejected. I praise Jung for a very measured and calculating approach that extends the possibility of true compromise in the short future in case an immediate accord is not tenable.

alban

pre 17 godina

"..Great guess Nikshala! Serbia liberated Kosovo from the Turks, as you well should know, not Albania. They were liberating land that had been part of their country for centuries. No comparison between 1912 and and Napoleon's conquest of Europe between 1800-1815...."

Hey , Zoran, I think you have mistaken the history buddy, there was a fight betwen allies forces of Balkan against otoman forces,not the Serb forces and the war...was lost...check better history books please, becouse probably it does not write , in your history books when Scanderbeg, wanted to help Huniadi, the Hungarian king, asked to cross through Serbia so he could get in time there , and you probably do not know, that Serbian king, did not allow to pass through Setrbian territory, so Hungarians lost the war and king Huniadi was killed in that war also , now the question is , if the Serbs would not join the Balkan allies on that lost war 600 years ago , maybe the war would have been won ...:)

toni

pre 17 godina

To zoran
Serbia can not liberate one country from own citizens when Serbian troops come in to Kosovo Kosovo Capital city Shkup were liberated from Turks it was in Albanian hands Serbs and others attack Albanians not thee Turks that does not call liberation that’s from one occupation to other.
And can you Explain to us how many years Kosovo was under Serbian rule and you can see it if you search the dates of your main Monasteries were build in Kosovo from wich date you start building your Monasteries until Otoman Occupation.
Serbian Kingdom achieved recognition. In 1219
Saint Archaengel near Prizren in 1352
Gracanica in 1335
These are the years when Serbia had full control over Kosovo and lost it in 28-Jun -1389 and never had anything to do with Kosovo until 1912.
Serbia Ruled Kosovo about 300 years all together and that was not liberation for Kosovo people but from one occupation to other one.

Cvele

pre 17 godina

Toni...
Thx for clearing up the fact we have been fighitng for our Kosovo since the 12th century. As far as I know, there were no muslims there at that time.

toni

pre 17 godina

Yes but Albanians were different religion before that Albanians were Christian Catholic and Orthodox faith, you have older buildings in Kosovo to estimate to who belong Kosovo, if you had Serbian rule over Kosovo in 12 century that does not prove that Kosovo population was Serbian.
Serbia Ruled lot of Town and villages around Balkan through the Local Lords they could be Albanians Greeks or others if you know how the system of empires work you will understand this.

Z

pre 17 godina

Yes, Gernamy is careful now. They do not want anybody else to do the same mistake with Kosovo as they did with Croatia in 91' and thus planted some small seeds of disconetent.

raso

pre 17 godina

oh come on, it´s the last albanian mistake everybody waits for, especially in belgrades politics staff & military.

the usa can´t and won´t exchange former bosnia, or georgia, or ukraine or azerbaidschan or westsahara for kosovo.

we´ve all solved together the nonsense anouncements so far (eu-acknowledgement of indiependence, un-acknowledgement of indiependence, albanian violance & an one-way-ticket to kukes, eu-membership for kosovo, nato-membership for kosovo)! don´t make a setback to new fairytales of 1001 nights.

let´s stop wasting time and discuss the future autonomy of south-serbia!

Shukri Gashi

pre 17 godina

Yes, Germany says it because they are convinced that Ahtisari plan will pass security council, so it's not necessary to do it. If things go wrong with the plan, then you can see what is going to happen with Germany policy. I hope you didn't forget Mr. Zobel comments. As Mr. Frid said "Kosova will be independent in one or another form, the best for serbs is that process be controlled!"

Zoran

pre 17 godina

The conquers have come to "liberate" as they stand on the ruins of the conquered. When Napoleon invaded countries he would clam that they were being "liberated". German troops on Serbian soil is a travesty, their claim that they are "peacekeepers" is a farce! Soon the German peacekeepers will be in Israel protecting the Jews from the Arabs, or so they will claim.

massimo

pre 17 godina

Dear Z,
just to point out that the Slovenia/Croatia independence recognition by the International Community had been only a form of justice and put an end to a colonial dictatorship called Yugoslavia.

To Raso,
by citing South Serbia do you mean Presevo, Medvedjia and Bujanovac?

nikshala

pre 17 godina

Zoran

"The conquers have come to "liberate" as they stand on the ruins of the conquered. When Napoleon invaded countries he would clam that they were being "liberated"." - Could the same be said for Serbia in 1912 when they 'liberated' Kosovo??

No ... let me guess - Kosovo has always and will always be serbian!

Nick

pre 17 godina

Germany will follows the US's lead.

It is clear Serbia does not want us as their citizens (as proven by an earlier statement of PM Kostunica), they only want the land to show up in future maps.

Serbia cannot afford us.

EA

pre 17 godina

What a "sensational" news from B92. Just to give a better picture that Germany like the rest of Europe and America have give a full support to Ahtisari Plan which envisage a supervised Kosova independence with guaranteed rights for the minorities in Kosova. Of course because the international efforts to persuade the Russians to join the club of the world that is why Germany cautious. But Kosovar Albanians will not be waiting for ever Russia for change heart. If Russia doesnt want to come on board it will be a double humiliation for them first and Serbia second. Kosova in few weeks time will the world's newest state.

Zoran

pre 17 godina

Great guess Nikshala! Serbia liberated Kosovo from the Turks, as you well should know, not Albania. They were liberating land that had been part of their country for centuries. No comparison between 1912 and and Napoleon's conquest of Europe between 1800-1815

Jorge Garcia

pre 17 godina

Jung is definitely playing his cards right. Although acceptance of the Ahtissari plan (which I find in need of modification) would make things simpler for the EU and the US, it is important to not view it as a fait accompli, and, therefore, to view the region as entering into a "crisis" if the plan is rejected. I praise Jung for a very measured and calculating approach that extends the possibility of true compromise in the short future in case an immediate accord is not tenable.

alban

pre 17 godina

"..Great guess Nikshala! Serbia liberated Kosovo from the Turks, as you well should know, not Albania. They were liberating land that had been part of their country for centuries. No comparison between 1912 and and Napoleon's conquest of Europe between 1800-1815...."

Hey , Zoran, I think you have mistaken the history buddy, there was a fight betwen allies forces of Balkan against otoman forces,not the Serb forces and the war...was lost...check better history books please, becouse probably it does not write , in your history books when Scanderbeg, wanted to help Huniadi, the Hungarian king, asked to cross through Serbia so he could get in time there , and you probably do not know, that Serbian king, did not allow to pass through Setrbian territory, so Hungarians lost the war and king Huniadi was killed in that war also , now the question is , if the Serbs would not join the Balkan allies on that lost war 600 years ago , maybe the war would have been won ...:)

toni

pre 17 godina

To zoran
Serbia can not liberate one country from own citizens when Serbian troops come in to Kosovo Kosovo Capital city Shkup were liberated from Turks it was in Albanian hands Serbs and others attack Albanians not thee Turks that does not call liberation that’s from one occupation to other.
And can you Explain to us how many years Kosovo was under Serbian rule and you can see it if you search the dates of your main Monasteries were build in Kosovo from wich date you start building your Monasteries until Otoman Occupation.
Serbian Kingdom achieved recognition. In 1219
Saint Archaengel near Prizren in 1352
Gracanica in 1335
These are the years when Serbia had full control over Kosovo and lost it in 28-Jun -1389 and never had anything to do with Kosovo until 1912.
Serbia Ruled Kosovo about 300 years all together and that was not liberation for Kosovo people but from one occupation to other one.

Cvele

pre 17 godina

Toni...
Thx for clearing up the fact we have been fighitng for our Kosovo since the 12th century. As far as I know, there were no muslims there at that time.

toni

pre 17 godina

Yes but Albanians were different religion before that Albanians were Christian Catholic and Orthodox faith, you have older buildings in Kosovo to estimate to who belong Kosovo, if you had Serbian rule over Kosovo in 12 century that does not prove that Kosovo population was Serbian.
Serbia Ruled lot of Town and villages around Balkan through the Local Lords they could be Albanians Greeks or others if you know how the system of empires work you will understand this.