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Macedonia could unilaterally recognize Kosovo

Macedonia might follow U.S. and EU suit and unilaterally recognize Kosovo’s independence.

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Nele

pre 16 godina

typical. Albanians run macedonia. Its time for Macedonians to realise that their governement, police force and Army have been Hijacked.

artan

pre 16 godina

I appeal to the reasonable people in Serbia that you have to face the inevitable -- Kosovo will be an independent country in a matter of weeks and there is nothing Serbia or any other opponent of independence can do to stop it. Justice will be finally served for all the victims of the serbian terror during the 90s. Believe it or not, Ahtisaari plan is the best option you can get. Don't make the same mistake as with the Z4 plan in Croatia!
One way or another, Kosovo will be independent. The question, as many analyst and politicians are saying, is whether this independence will be controlled or uncontrolled by EU.

Btw Milan, get the facts straight before posting here. Egypt does recognize Israel from 1979. Sooner or later, all the islamic countries will recognize the existence of Israel, and so will Serbia recognize Kosovo soon....of course if you still aspire to get into the European Union.

Dane

pre 16 godina

Boris

I would like to encourage you and K-Serbs to freely express your thoughts, statements and decisions. Finally, all this has to do directly with you and not with S-Serbs who are still playing false role of your protectors. Their way of 'protection' is well known from Croacia and Bosnia (especially Croacia).
This is the way you, K-Serbs, should fight for your rights... Basic right is the right for self expression...
Enough with tutors who are measuring only their interest forgoting that all this is about people living in Kosovo. Go on...

aaron

pre 16 godina

well to be honest what goes around comes around, serbia wanted greater serbia, bombed everyone, trying to grab croatia,bosnia,they never liked the macedonians as well,they were always on greeks side,so as we can see now they lost, thats why always recognise a orthodox church, no matter wat the countries name is its still orthodox ,i guess there is a god out there, wat was it serbia do tokija or serbia do nokia!, peace!,im not happy as well that kosovo is trying to get independence but wat can u do thats life! long lives croatia :)

dalibor

pre 16 godina

It doesn't surprise me at all Macedonia has always been easily influenced.They are only looking after themselves and are not looking at the bigger picture,and finally being also slavic orthodox with same beliefs,nothing suprises me anymore.After all these centuries later what have our serbian brothers fought for against the ottomans......

Anton

pre 16 godina

It is an absolute that MK will recognise 'Kosovo' as an independent country. There is a real fear about the Albanian west becoming more radical, and this may seem like a way to appease them. A mistake in my view.

The Albanian political parties have an unjustified amount of power in the parliament, but this is not only due to the macedonian voters - to dispell some comments here, the international community INSIST that any government has an Albanian coalition partner. So even though the TOTAL Albanian MP's are a small minority, they HAVE TO BE in the parliament in some form. (So much for 'democracy')

The issue with the name is important (Macedonia) and all the political macedonian parties are in thrall to the USA. They even allow the US to build the world's largest embassy complex in Europe. Why? To support the world's largest US military base in Kosovo!

macedonian politicians are basically only interested ion their own benefits. From personal experience there is no difference between Albanian or Slavic ethnic groups in this regard. the same is true in kosovo.

To Milan, there are huge doubts about the legitimate figures of Albanians in Macedonia. There are numerous reports of double and triple counting (in Macedonia, in Kosovo, in Bosnia), and the last census is extremely unreliable and NO raw figures/statistics have ever been seen, so no independent assessment can be made. Remember it took them over six moinths to release the 'official' figures, ask yourself why? But most people believe that the true figure is about 20% Albanian population.

Finally, I think everyone accepts that Kosovo will obtain a significantly increased level of independence. (Whether this is 'legal' or not is now irrelevant. 'To the victor, the spoils' is still true.) So it is almost irrellevant who 'recognises' this new "country".

Insidentally, who are Kosovars? My own knowledge of the history of the Balkans shows no such peoples ever existing. If you mean Albanians, please say so, if you mean Albanians and Serbs living in Kosovo province, please say so. And if you are using the term to EXCLUDE Serbs, then obviously ethnic cleansing is still alive in spirit.

Agim Elshani

pre 16 godina

Milan , go back March 24 1999, Miloshevic thought the same thing that US was just bluffing, but bombs started hitting serbia all over including the residence of Slobo

Katherine

pre 16 godina

It is no suprise if The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia follows with the US and recognises Kosovo independence, after all Fyrom wants recognition as "Macedonia" for their name, so they will do anything to get it and then the US will try to get Fyrom into Nato even without solving their name dispute with Greece. It's simply about doing favours for US, that is how Fyrom got recognition in 2004 by George Bush.

george

pre 16 godina

i think macedonia should back away,i think its up too US and EU and albania and serbia too handle this problem i think macedonia should not interfere,i know the macedonians have had some problems with the serbian orthodox church not recognising the macedonian orthodox church,but i still think macedonia should not interfere with kosovo,its up to them,not up too the macedonians,peace!

International Observer

pre 16 godina

The only reason MK would recognize a unilateral independence declaration is to avoid the same problems in MK and in the hope that the US will support them in all of their outstanding issues, including the border with Kosovo. The border problems might get solved in their(MK) favor, but the other and more important issue of the M-A problems is just a matter of time.

lowe

pre 16 godina

I personally think Macedonia is playing with fire which might engulf her later. Should the ethinic Albanians of west Macdeonia seek to secede in the future, they will likewise seek unilateral recognition from others (including Serbia!). But I do admit Macedonia is in a difficult situation either way because of its large Albanian minority -- some estimates as high as 40%.

Boris,

pre 16 godina

Living in Kosovo, I have come to realize that this is no bluff at all. I wish it were, but Serbia at this point can do very little to alter the predestined outcome. Belgrade's persistence is the soly to blame, but some of us Serbs in Kosovo share some blame as well. I know Serbs who wait in prayers for Albanian property buyers to come with an offer. As a result, we are only few left in southern Kosovo.

Ahtisary's proposal though not perfect it may protect some of us who have chosen to stay. Belgrade's plan doesn't protect Serbs or Albanians from a potential futher violence.

alban

pre 16 godina

to Milan
" ...The US recognizes it... great. Who cares? It cannot work until Serbia recognizes it. And you cannot force a country to recognize another. I mean Egypt still doesn't recognize Israel and does the US do anything bad there? HA!..."

I do not think so ,Israel is working fine, the best living standard you can dream of, so be the Egypt, who cares , as you say, and watch and envy the great life there ...:)

european

pre 16 godina

milan, Egypt doesnt recognise Israel- doesnt seem to stop Israel actually being a successful independent - and democratic - country, at all.

Also - albanians do NOT have a majority in the macedonian parliament - they make up about 25% of the population and about 20% of the parliament - . Albanian parties are however necessary for forming a government coalition - pretty much unavoidable since the majority ethnic macedonian voters are split amongst several parties. this means that Albanian parties can put some pressure on the government in this respect.

Serbia is going to have to face facts - we cant force Serbia to like or accept independent kosovo - but we can even less force 2 million kosovars to be a partof Serbia. Serbia wont like it but kosovo will be independent - and all of the neighbouring countries will recognise it - I heard today in macedonia that a proposal is floating for a joint regional recognition - Croatia, BiH, montenegro Albania and macedonia might agree to all recognise simutaneously this new country. Will Serbia want to isolate itself to such an extent over this? Judging what Bishop Artemije said today in Belgrade - there are plenty of people in Serbia who are just cynical enough to cut off their own nose to spite their face.

kak zharka

Pejon07

pre 16 godina

Scare tactics? Yes they where doin "scare tactics" to back in -99 when they said they where going to bomb Serbia. We all know what happend, if the US says, Kosova should be Independent - then it will even if it will cost more lives

Milan

pre 16 godina

Peder, if this isn't a scare tactic... Then why didn't they do it 10 years ago? Why are they waiting till now? Nothing has changed in between? Anyone could have recognized their independence. Wow back in 91 people could of, nobody did. Also, Germany just said do not recognize independence, because guess what then, Republika Srpska is recognized, and then half of Kosovo will be recognized as part of Serbia. What is stopping that? It is PART of Serbia and Serbs live there. So how can Albanians declare THEIR independence but Serbs not their own? You have NO LOGIC. Just fed all this that you think will happen. Well its a little more intricate than that. You can't just do what you want.

Mr. Smith

pre 16 godina

Very nice gesture from the Macedonian government to vote for Kosovo independence. Don't Macedonians see that the next independent Albanian state will be Macedonia in about 10 years, or so.

Padraig

pre 16 godina

Sorry Milan, but this is no scare tactic. It is reality. The simple fact of the matter is that an independent Kosova has no need whatsoever to be recognised by Serbia. With US and UK recognition it will have powerful foreign allies, and with recognition by Macedonia and Albania there will be strong local trading partners and access to rapidly growing ports on the Adriatic. When will the hardliners realise that Atishaari's proposal is as good as it's going to get? The only realistic alternative is a UDI, perhaps without any safeguards or concessions to the remaining Kosovo Serbs. Kosovo is lost to Serbia, it is time to recognise that fact, so that some kind of process of reconcilliation can begin.

Milan

pre 16 godina

Come on people are you blind? This is all a scare tactic. US and EU would never do this. First of all, US is too busy with other problems, notice they have NO proactive approach to Kosovo at all. They wouldn't do that. EU is so split how could they ever recognize a country? It is all to scare Serbia and say accept this or we will make it independent. It's a bad bluff. I mean honestly, who actually is taking this serious? The US recognizes it... great. Who cares? It cannot work until Serbia recognizes it. And you cannot force a country to recognize another. I mean Egypt still doesn't recognize Israel and does the US do anything bad there? HA!

hm

pre 16 godina

As we all know, is that Albanian have a big majority in Macedonien parlament so they can feel a presere that they have to Unlitary recognazie kosovo as a indepedence state so they dont geet same thing as Serbs did , for the west macedonina (titova etc) , but as we speak know the albanan sepertist is t rying to get Epirus as a autonoms province from Greece and next will be MAcedonia or Montenegro

Bad Gorilla

pre 16 godina

When even fellow slavic-orthodox Macedonia doesn’t support Serbia claims over Kosovo anymore, it’s time for some radicals to open their eyes and see that independence is under way…

hm

pre 16 godina

As we all know, is that Albanian have a big majority in Macedonien parlament so they can feel a presere that they have to Unlitary recognazie kosovo as a indepedence state so they dont geet same thing as Serbs did , for the west macedonina (titova etc) , but as we speak know the albanan sepertist is t rying to get Epirus as a autonoms province from Greece and next will be MAcedonia or Montenegro

Bad Gorilla

pre 16 godina

When even fellow slavic-orthodox Macedonia doesn’t support Serbia claims over Kosovo anymore, it’s time for some radicals to open their eyes and see that independence is under way…

Milan

pre 16 godina

Come on people are you blind? This is all a scare tactic. US and EU would never do this. First of all, US is too busy with other problems, notice they have NO proactive approach to Kosovo at all. They wouldn't do that. EU is so split how could they ever recognize a country? It is all to scare Serbia and say accept this or we will make it independent. It's a bad bluff. I mean honestly, who actually is taking this serious? The US recognizes it... great. Who cares? It cannot work until Serbia recognizes it. And you cannot force a country to recognize another. I mean Egypt still doesn't recognize Israel and does the US do anything bad there? HA!

Padraig

pre 16 godina

Sorry Milan, but this is no scare tactic. It is reality. The simple fact of the matter is that an independent Kosova has no need whatsoever to be recognised by Serbia. With US and UK recognition it will have powerful foreign allies, and with recognition by Macedonia and Albania there will be strong local trading partners and access to rapidly growing ports on the Adriatic. When will the hardliners realise that Atishaari's proposal is as good as it's going to get? The only realistic alternative is a UDI, perhaps without any safeguards or concessions to the remaining Kosovo Serbs. Kosovo is lost to Serbia, it is time to recognise that fact, so that some kind of process of reconcilliation can begin.

Mr. Smith

pre 16 godina

Very nice gesture from the Macedonian government to vote for Kosovo independence. Don't Macedonians see that the next independent Albanian state will be Macedonia in about 10 years, or so.

Pejon07

pre 16 godina

Scare tactics? Yes they where doin "scare tactics" to back in -99 when they said they where going to bomb Serbia. We all know what happend, if the US says, Kosova should be Independent - then it will even if it will cost more lives

Milan

pre 16 godina

Peder, if this isn't a scare tactic... Then why didn't they do it 10 years ago? Why are they waiting till now? Nothing has changed in between? Anyone could have recognized their independence. Wow back in 91 people could of, nobody did. Also, Germany just said do not recognize independence, because guess what then, Republika Srpska is recognized, and then half of Kosovo will be recognized as part of Serbia. What is stopping that? It is PART of Serbia and Serbs live there. So how can Albanians declare THEIR independence but Serbs not their own? You have NO LOGIC. Just fed all this that you think will happen. Well its a little more intricate than that. You can't just do what you want.

european

pre 16 godina

milan, Egypt doesnt recognise Israel- doesnt seem to stop Israel actually being a successful independent - and democratic - country, at all.

Also - albanians do NOT have a majority in the macedonian parliament - they make up about 25% of the population and about 20% of the parliament - . Albanian parties are however necessary for forming a government coalition - pretty much unavoidable since the majority ethnic macedonian voters are split amongst several parties. this means that Albanian parties can put some pressure on the government in this respect.

Serbia is going to have to face facts - we cant force Serbia to like or accept independent kosovo - but we can even less force 2 million kosovars to be a partof Serbia. Serbia wont like it but kosovo will be independent - and all of the neighbouring countries will recognise it - I heard today in macedonia that a proposal is floating for a joint regional recognition - Croatia, BiH, montenegro Albania and macedonia might agree to all recognise simutaneously this new country. Will Serbia want to isolate itself to such an extent over this? Judging what Bishop Artemije said today in Belgrade - there are plenty of people in Serbia who are just cynical enough to cut off their own nose to spite their face.

kak zharka

alban

pre 16 godina

to Milan
" ...The US recognizes it... great. Who cares? It cannot work until Serbia recognizes it. And you cannot force a country to recognize another. I mean Egypt still doesn't recognize Israel and does the US do anything bad there? HA!..."

I do not think so ,Israel is working fine, the best living standard you can dream of, so be the Egypt, who cares , as you say, and watch and envy the great life there ...:)

Boris,

pre 16 godina

Living in Kosovo, I have come to realize that this is no bluff at all. I wish it were, but Serbia at this point can do very little to alter the predestined outcome. Belgrade's persistence is the soly to blame, but some of us Serbs in Kosovo share some blame as well. I know Serbs who wait in prayers for Albanian property buyers to come with an offer. As a result, we are only few left in southern Kosovo.

Ahtisary's proposal though not perfect it may protect some of us who have chosen to stay. Belgrade's plan doesn't protect Serbs or Albanians from a potential futher violence.

lowe

pre 16 godina

I personally think Macedonia is playing with fire which might engulf her later. Should the ethinic Albanians of west Macdeonia seek to secede in the future, they will likewise seek unilateral recognition from others (including Serbia!). But I do admit Macedonia is in a difficult situation either way because of its large Albanian minority -- some estimates as high as 40%.

International Observer

pre 16 godina

The only reason MK would recognize a unilateral independence declaration is to avoid the same problems in MK and in the hope that the US will support them in all of their outstanding issues, including the border with Kosovo. The border problems might get solved in their(MK) favor, but the other and more important issue of the M-A problems is just a matter of time.

george

pre 16 godina

i think macedonia should back away,i think its up too US and EU and albania and serbia too handle this problem i think macedonia should not interfere,i know the macedonians have had some problems with the serbian orthodox church not recognising the macedonian orthodox church,but i still think macedonia should not interfere with kosovo,its up to them,not up too the macedonians,peace!

Katherine

pre 16 godina

It is no suprise if The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia follows with the US and recognises Kosovo independence, after all Fyrom wants recognition as "Macedonia" for their name, so they will do anything to get it and then the US will try to get Fyrom into Nato even without solving their name dispute with Greece. It's simply about doing favours for US, that is how Fyrom got recognition in 2004 by George Bush.

Agim Elshani

pre 16 godina

Milan , go back March 24 1999, Miloshevic thought the same thing that US was just bluffing, but bombs started hitting serbia all over including the residence of Slobo

dalibor

pre 16 godina

It doesn't surprise me at all Macedonia has always been easily influenced.They are only looking after themselves and are not looking at the bigger picture,and finally being also slavic orthodox with same beliefs,nothing suprises me anymore.After all these centuries later what have our serbian brothers fought for against the ottomans......

Anton

pre 16 godina

It is an absolute that MK will recognise 'Kosovo' as an independent country. There is a real fear about the Albanian west becoming more radical, and this may seem like a way to appease them. A mistake in my view.

The Albanian political parties have an unjustified amount of power in the parliament, but this is not only due to the macedonian voters - to dispell some comments here, the international community INSIST that any government has an Albanian coalition partner. So even though the TOTAL Albanian MP's are a small minority, they HAVE TO BE in the parliament in some form. (So much for 'democracy')

The issue with the name is important (Macedonia) and all the political macedonian parties are in thrall to the USA. They even allow the US to build the world's largest embassy complex in Europe. Why? To support the world's largest US military base in Kosovo!

macedonian politicians are basically only interested ion their own benefits. From personal experience there is no difference between Albanian or Slavic ethnic groups in this regard. the same is true in kosovo.

To Milan, there are huge doubts about the legitimate figures of Albanians in Macedonia. There are numerous reports of double and triple counting (in Macedonia, in Kosovo, in Bosnia), and the last census is extremely unreliable and NO raw figures/statistics have ever been seen, so no independent assessment can be made. Remember it took them over six moinths to release the 'official' figures, ask yourself why? But most people believe that the true figure is about 20% Albanian population.

Finally, I think everyone accepts that Kosovo will obtain a significantly increased level of independence. (Whether this is 'legal' or not is now irrelevant. 'To the victor, the spoils' is still true.) So it is almost irrellevant who 'recognises' this new "country".

Insidentally, who are Kosovars? My own knowledge of the history of the Balkans shows no such peoples ever existing. If you mean Albanians, please say so, if you mean Albanians and Serbs living in Kosovo province, please say so. And if you are using the term to EXCLUDE Serbs, then obviously ethnic cleansing is still alive in spirit.

aaron

pre 16 godina

well to be honest what goes around comes around, serbia wanted greater serbia, bombed everyone, trying to grab croatia,bosnia,they never liked the macedonians as well,they were always on greeks side,so as we can see now they lost, thats why always recognise a orthodox church, no matter wat the countries name is its still orthodox ,i guess there is a god out there, wat was it serbia do tokija or serbia do nokia!, peace!,im not happy as well that kosovo is trying to get independence but wat can u do thats life! long lives croatia :)

Dane

pre 16 godina

Boris

I would like to encourage you and K-Serbs to freely express your thoughts, statements and decisions. Finally, all this has to do directly with you and not with S-Serbs who are still playing false role of your protectors. Their way of 'protection' is well known from Croacia and Bosnia (especially Croacia).
This is the way you, K-Serbs, should fight for your rights... Basic right is the right for self expression...
Enough with tutors who are measuring only their interest forgoting that all this is about people living in Kosovo. Go on...

artan

pre 16 godina

I appeal to the reasonable people in Serbia that you have to face the inevitable -- Kosovo will be an independent country in a matter of weeks and there is nothing Serbia or any other opponent of independence can do to stop it. Justice will be finally served for all the victims of the serbian terror during the 90s. Believe it or not, Ahtisaari plan is the best option you can get. Don't make the same mistake as with the Z4 plan in Croatia!
One way or another, Kosovo will be independent. The question, as many analyst and politicians are saying, is whether this independence will be controlled or uncontrolled by EU.

Btw Milan, get the facts straight before posting here. Egypt does recognize Israel from 1979. Sooner or later, all the islamic countries will recognize the existence of Israel, and so will Serbia recognize Kosovo soon....of course if you still aspire to get into the European Union.

Nele

pre 16 godina

typical. Albanians run macedonia. Its time for Macedonians to realise that their governement, police force and Army have been Hijacked.

Bad Gorilla

pre 16 godina

When even fellow slavic-orthodox Macedonia doesn’t support Serbia claims over Kosovo anymore, it’s time for some radicals to open their eyes and see that independence is under way…

hm

pre 16 godina

As we all know, is that Albanian have a big majority in Macedonien parlament so they can feel a presere that they have to Unlitary recognazie kosovo as a indepedence state so they dont geet same thing as Serbs did , for the west macedonina (titova etc) , but as we speak know the albanan sepertist is t rying to get Epirus as a autonoms province from Greece and next will be MAcedonia or Montenegro

Milan

pre 16 godina

Come on people are you blind? This is all a scare tactic. US and EU would never do this. First of all, US is too busy with other problems, notice they have NO proactive approach to Kosovo at all. They wouldn't do that. EU is so split how could they ever recognize a country? It is all to scare Serbia and say accept this or we will make it independent. It's a bad bluff. I mean honestly, who actually is taking this serious? The US recognizes it... great. Who cares? It cannot work until Serbia recognizes it. And you cannot force a country to recognize another. I mean Egypt still doesn't recognize Israel and does the US do anything bad there? HA!

Padraig

pre 16 godina

Sorry Milan, but this is no scare tactic. It is reality. The simple fact of the matter is that an independent Kosova has no need whatsoever to be recognised by Serbia. With US and UK recognition it will have powerful foreign allies, and with recognition by Macedonia and Albania there will be strong local trading partners and access to rapidly growing ports on the Adriatic. When will the hardliners realise that Atishaari's proposal is as good as it's going to get? The only realistic alternative is a UDI, perhaps without any safeguards or concessions to the remaining Kosovo Serbs. Kosovo is lost to Serbia, it is time to recognise that fact, so that some kind of process of reconcilliation can begin.

Mr. Smith

pre 16 godina

Very nice gesture from the Macedonian government to vote for Kosovo independence. Don't Macedonians see that the next independent Albanian state will be Macedonia in about 10 years, or so.

Pejon07

pre 16 godina

Scare tactics? Yes they where doin "scare tactics" to back in -99 when they said they where going to bomb Serbia. We all know what happend, if the US says, Kosova should be Independent - then it will even if it will cost more lives

Milan

pre 16 godina

Peder, if this isn't a scare tactic... Then why didn't they do it 10 years ago? Why are they waiting till now? Nothing has changed in between? Anyone could have recognized their independence. Wow back in 91 people could of, nobody did. Also, Germany just said do not recognize independence, because guess what then, Republika Srpska is recognized, and then half of Kosovo will be recognized as part of Serbia. What is stopping that? It is PART of Serbia and Serbs live there. So how can Albanians declare THEIR independence but Serbs not their own? You have NO LOGIC. Just fed all this that you think will happen. Well its a little more intricate than that. You can't just do what you want.

european

pre 16 godina

milan, Egypt doesnt recognise Israel- doesnt seem to stop Israel actually being a successful independent - and democratic - country, at all.

Also - albanians do NOT have a majority in the macedonian parliament - they make up about 25% of the population and about 20% of the parliament - . Albanian parties are however necessary for forming a government coalition - pretty much unavoidable since the majority ethnic macedonian voters are split amongst several parties. this means that Albanian parties can put some pressure on the government in this respect.

Serbia is going to have to face facts - we cant force Serbia to like or accept independent kosovo - but we can even less force 2 million kosovars to be a partof Serbia. Serbia wont like it but kosovo will be independent - and all of the neighbouring countries will recognise it - I heard today in macedonia that a proposal is floating for a joint regional recognition - Croatia, BiH, montenegro Albania and macedonia might agree to all recognise simutaneously this new country. Will Serbia want to isolate itself to such an extent over this? Judging what Bishop Artemije said today in Belgrade - there are plenty of people in Serbia who are just cynical enough to cut off their own nose to spite their face.

kak zharka

alban

pre 16 godina

to Milan
" ...The US recognizes it... great. Who cares? It cannot work until Serbia recognizes it. And you cannot force a country to recognize another. I mean Egypt still doesn't recognize Israel and does the US do anything bad there? HA!..."

I do not think so ,Israel is working fine, the best living standard you can dream of, so be the Egypt, who cares , as you say, and watch and envy the great life there ...:)

Boris,

pre 16 godina

Living in Kosovo, I have come to realize that this is no bluff at all. I wish it were, but Serbia at this point can do very little to alter the predestined outcome. Belgrade's persistence is the soly to blame, but some of us Serbs in Kosovo share some blame as well. I know Serbs who wait in prayers for Albanian property buyers to come with an offer. As a result, we are only few left in southern Kosovo.

Ahtisary's proposal though not perfect it may protect some of us who have chosen to stay. Belgrade's plan doesn't protect Serbs or Albanians from a potential futher violence.

lowe

pre 16 godina

I personally think Macedonia is playing with fire which might engulf her later. Should the ethinic Albanians of west Macdeonia seek to secede in the future, they will likewise seek unilateral recognition from others (including Serbia!). But I do admit Macedonia is in a difficult situation either way because of its large Albanian minority -- some estimates as high as 40%.

International Observer

pre 16 godina

The only reason MK would recognize a unilateral independence declaration is to avoid the same problems in MK and in the hope that the US will support them in all of their outstanding issues, including the border with Kosovo. The border problems might get solved in their(MK) favor, but the other and more important issue of the M-A problems is just a matter of time.

george

pre 16 godina

i think macedonia should back away,i think its up too US and EU and albania and serbia too handle this problem i think macedonia should not interfere,i know the macedonians have had some problems with the serbian orthodox church not recognising the macedonian orthodox church,but i still think macedonia should not interfere with kosovo,its up to them,not up too the macedonians,peace!

Katherine

pre 16 godina

It is no suprise if The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia follows with the US and recognises Kosovo independence, after all Fyrom wants recognition as "Macedonia" for their name, so they will do anything to get it and then the US will try to get Fyrom into Nato even without solving their name dispute with Greece. It's simply about doing favours for US, that is how Fyrom got recognition in 2004 by George Bush.

Agim Elshani

pre 16 godina

Milan , go back March 24 1999, Miloshevic thought the same thing that US was just bluffing, but bombs started hitting serbia all over including the residence of Slobo

dalibor

pre 16 godina

It doesn't surprise me at all Macedonia has always been easily influenced.They are only looking after themselves and are not looking at the bigger picture,and finally being also slavic orthodox with same beliefs,nothing suprises me anymore.After all these centuries later what have our serbian brothers fought for against the ottomans......

Anton

pre 16 godina

It is an absolute that MK will recognise 'Kosovo' as an independent country. There is a real fear about the Albanian west becoming more radical, and this may seem like a way to appease them. A mistake in my view.

The Albanian political parties have an unjustified amount of power in the parliament, but this is not only due to the macedonian voters - to dispell some comments here, the international community INSIST that any government has an Albanian coalition partner. So even though the TOTAL Albanian MP's are a small minority, they HAVE TO BE in the parliament in some form. (So much for 'democracy')

The issue with the name is important (Macedonia) and all the political macedonian parties are in thrall to the USA. They even allow the US to build the world's largest embassy complex in Europe. Why? To support the world's largest US military base in Kosovo!

macedonian politicians are basically only interested ion their own benefits. From personal experience there is no difference between Albanian or Slavic ethnic groups in this regard. the same is true in kosovo.

To Milan, there are huge doubts about the legitimate figures of Albanians in Macedonia. There are numerous reports of double and triple counting (in Macedonia, in Kosovo, in Bosnia), and the last census is extremely unreliable and NO raw figures/statistics have ever been seen, so no independent assessment can be made. Remember it took them over six moinths to release the 'official' figures, ask yourself why? But most people believe that the true figure is about 20% Albanian population.

Finally, I think everyone accepts that Kosovo will obtain a significantly increased level of independence. (Whether this is 'legal' or not is now irrelevant. 'To the victor, the spoils' is still true.) So it is almost irrellevant who 'recognises' this new "country".

Insidentally, who are Kosovars? My own knowledge of the history of the Balkans shows no such peoples ever existing. If you mean Albanians, please say so, if you mean Albanians and Serbs living in Kosovo province, please say so. And if you are using the term to EXCLUDE Serbs, then obviously ethnic cleansing is still alive in spirit.

aaron

pre 16 godina

well to be honest what goes around comes around, serbia wanted greater serbia, bombed everyone, trying to grab croatia,bosnia,they never liked the macedonians as well,they were always on greeks side,so as we can see now they lost, thats why always recognise a orthodox church, no matter wat the countries name is its still orthodox ,i guess there is a god out there, wat was it serbia do tokija or serbia do nokia!, peace!,im not happy as well that kosovo is trying to get independence but wat can u do thats life! long lives croatia :)

Dane

pre 16 godina

Boris

I would like to encourage you and K-Serbs to freely express your thoughts, statements and decisions. Finally, all this has to do directly with you and not with S-Serbs who are still playing false role of your protectors. Their way of 'protection' is well known from Croacia and Bosnia (especially Croacia).
This is the way you, K-Serbs, should fight for your rights... Basic right is the right for self expression...
Enough with tutors who are measuring only their interest forgoting that all this is about people living in Kosovo. Go on...

artan

pre 16 godina

I appeal to the reasonable people in Serbia that you have to face the inevitable -- Kosovo will be an independent country in a matter of weeks and there is nothing Serbia or any other opponent of independence can do to stop it. Justice will be finally served for all the victims of the serbian terror during the 90s. Believe it or not, Ahtisaari plan is the best option you can get. Don't make the same mistake as with the Z4 plan in Croatia!
One way or another, Kosovo will be independent. The question, as many analyst and politicians are saying, is whether this independence will be controlled or uncontrolled by EU.

Btw Milan, get the facts straight before posting here. Egypt does recognize Israel from 1979. Sooner or later, all the islamic countries will recognize the existence of Israel, and so will Serbia recognize Kosovo soon....of course if you still aspire to get into the European Union.

Nele

pre 16 godina

typical. Albanians run macedonia. Its time for Macedonians to realise that their governement, police force and Army have been Hijacked.