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Friday, 27.04.2007.

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French, U.S. ambassadors praise Priština

A UN fact-finding mission has arrived in Kosovo for a two-day visit, following meetings in Belgrade Thursday.

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Nik

pre 16 godina

to ROD:

you say our friends in Taliban??? Isn't that great though we have friends from all religions? I mean Muslim countries are pro Kosovo's independece just like Christian countries are??

Right now you got nothing to argue against so all you do is try to bring religion into this which isn't really helping you is it???

Isn't it fracturating for you guys to see churches around the world helping Alabanian muslims??

alban

pre 16 godina

".....Lets also not forget that since "peace" was declared in 1999, over 230,000 Serbs & Roma were expelled from their homes, and either stolen their property, or razed it to the ground completely.
It's been 8 years and these poor people still can't reclaim their homes. ......"

Rod ....
you probably have seen in RTS how those serbs were expelled from Kosova, :), however according to real news, noone touched them, noone expelled them,there was no Army taking them from their houses and moving them toward the Serbia border, those people left together with that cowardly serbian army, becouse those people knew what they did, those people were affaraid that someone might have seen them killing, ploundering, and doing all unspekable things to their albanian "friends".
Those people must have been mistaken thinking that Milosevic era will go forever on or did not count on the fact that someone more superior is watching them, those people should have known better , so there would not be any reason to leave Kosova.

need more arguments...?
and do not try to show the agressor as a victime please.

alban

pre 16 godina

"....Albanian nationalism must end before the whole region explodes. Borders do not change with demographics, what is offered by the Serbian goverment should be appreciated.
(Marios Vassiliou, Friday, 27 April, 2007, 12:56) "

So there are still some Democrtas from Democriti era, then levae all Cyprus to the Turkiye, and they could live in peace together....
I know , I know, you can not , is not becouse of nationalismus my friend , it is becouse there is a very deep root betwen you greeks and all your neighbours.
but thanks for your concern

sunny

pre 17 godina

Rod, u are defiant and show no sign of reconcilliation or remorse, tsk tsk and you go to church, it doesnt matter who is right or wrong it doesnt bring the dead back and doesnt protect the future. you can be right if you want, problem is everytime serbia is right mass amounts of people keep dieing???? it the 21st century

herbert

pre 17 godina

i feel sorry for the albanian people to have such neighbors.

albanians seem to be way beyond the nonsense that the serbs deliver.

EU, well you all will need some time for this.

herbert, hamburg

Adi

pre 17 godina

To: Rod

"Lets not forget that Serbs were a majority of over 60% in Kosovo prior to 1940"

I realy don't know how did you get this statistics but I have to say to you that you are completely wrong. The percentage of Serbian people in Kosovo never was more than 15 % (FYI).
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And as for "supervised autonomy" don't you think people this solution is to late for at least 20 years ??

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KOSOVO WILL BE INDEPENDENT, and for all of you that are not believe in this just wait "few weeks" as US Ambassador to UN said yesterday in Pristina.

Cheers,

Jovan

pre 17 godina

Nikshala,

you tell others that their comments do not make sense ( can´t remember now who it was ), and on the pretty same site, you are writing sentences like " Serbia has not respected UN charter and international law in the last 50 years"...

shall anybody take you serious here, with such an "analysis"?

come on, you can write better, I know it.

sunny

pre 17 godina

rod, its hard to live a lie. i was there.how dare you!!!! thats all true with facts. and it stands. you dont have to like it, nor try to reconcile. you dont have to say sorry or do anything, live in the past or move forward, u can make excuses and avoid. there is a price in your out look, byzantiniam thinking has no room in a democratic eu my friend

leka

pre 17 godina

Rod and other so-called patriotic serbs,
So what is the number of killed civilians in Kosova/a,Bosnia,Croatia and Slovenia??? Who started all these wars??? Why nobody wants to live with you??? even Montenegro??? Do you think the whole west is against or hates you and for what reason??? Hope we can meet in EU if not I wont cry about it...

genc

pre 17 godina

Rod,
the last paragraph of your comment fits perfectly to yours. Really cheap and naive propaganda. As for that enormous comparation to the Talibans, don't forget, the Holy Siege is in favour of Kosovo's independence

nikshala

pre 17 godina

Rod

The difference between what you and sunny said, is this:

What sunny said is supported and confirmed by reports and studies from many independent sources and many countries, UN, OSCE, Red Cross etc etc. and not just from albanians

Most of what you are saying is only found in sources coming from Serbia with a Russian stamp on it. - especially when you talk about history, WW2, population make up etc.

Serbs have never been a majority in Kosovo, definently not in the last few centuries.

When Serbs 'liberated' Kosovo from Ottoman Empire the population in Kosovo was overwhelmly albanian.

Rod

pre 17 godina

"dont forget the screaming voices of mutilated children old men abused woman and healthy young men mutilated and killed in the name serbian nationalisim, not 10,000 but more, since before 1999."

Sunny your post is completely devoid of any fact.

First of all, the 10,000 killed figure that you gave represents everyone who died in the 1999 war, Serb,Roma & Albanian civillians, Yugoslav soldiers, KLA terrorists,etc.

Secondly, the "screaming voices of mutilated men, women, children" that you seem to be hearing are no doubt coming from the victims of Albanian Nationalism in Kosovo. In fact you probably
heard the Serb voices coming from the Ruzica border crossing (15,000 of them at last report).

Lets not forget that Serbs were a majority of over 60% in Kosovo prior to 1940. Serbs became the minority in Kosovo after WWII, as a direct result of Genocide committed against them by the Albanian Nazi S.S. Skanderburg Division.

How many hundreds of thousands of Serbs, Jews, & Gypsies have the Albanians terrorized into leaving over the past 50 some years?

Lets also not forget that since "peace" was declared in 1999, over 230,000 Serbs & Roma were expelled from their homes, and either stolen their property, or razed it to the ground completely.
It's been 8 years and these poor people still can't reclaim their homes.

And finally we must also remember that over the past 8 years, over 150 ancient Orthodoxries and Shrines were destroyed by Albanians, in their attempt to commit "cultural genocide" against Kosovo's true heritage & people(the Serbs), in an attempt to erase every bit of proof that Kosovo i Metohija is NOT an Albanian homeland, rather it is a Serbian one.
This is identical to what
your friends the Taliban did in Afghanistan.

All I can say to you sunny is Tsk, Tsk...how dare you spread such lies and
propaganda, do you really think that we are all so naive?

sunny

pre 17 godina

to all you nationalist, dont forget the screaming voices of mutilated children old men abused woman and healthy young men mutilated and killed in the name serbian nationalisim, not 10,000 but more, since before 1999. do they not have voices, did they die in vain, were the kosovo albanians expelled for nothing, can hate exist so much, that sorry can not be said. imagine your mother your father brothers and sister experincing what they had gone thru. responsible democratic governments do not do what the serbs did to there so called citizens for 90 + years. im not sure in 8yrs, that serbia has demonstrated a responsable degree of democracy as a start. to not include kalb as citizens and there rights within serbia and allocated parlimentary seats, why??? thats a compromise supervised by the eu and nato!!!!???? the albanians of serbia have compromised and will settle and work within serb institution not becoz they want to, but for the sake of an independant kosovo, same with all the albanian inhabited regions

lowe

pre 17 godina

"There is a Letter of Appreciation from representatives of Brestovika, Ciga and Belopolje , praising Kosovoa Police for their trust and sevices to serb comunities to protect and serve. Now , today I read it myself that the representative from Brestovika has been forced to say what Belgrade wants him to say. He will be cought in a big lie becasue those letters with his signature will be hand it over to UNSC delegation. Exactly for this reason Brestovika was chosen, what i mean is to totally emmbarres serbia and reveale their dirty tricks.
(Ahmet Isufi, Friday, 27 April, 2007, 15:22)"

How can we be sure that these letters of appreciation were not produced under coercion or bribery? I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

Philip Davies

pre 17 godina

The problem with your argument nikshala is that Serbia is the nation of Serbs, whereas Kosovo cannot be the nation of Albanians because Albania exists.

The new constitution doesn't refer to an ethnicities except "The Republic of Serbia shall develop and promote relations of Serbs
living abroad with the kin state."

"UN document or resolution giving Kosovo to Serbia." Kosovo was part of Serbia as defined in the various constiutions of the SFRY and Serbia itself. This was an internal affair and nothing to do with the UN.

So why Laki have you not returned to Kosovo?

laki NY

pre 17 godina

I didn’t leave Prishtina-Kosova for USA because I was fascinated by Hollywood movies and I decided to chase the "american dream". I left out Kosova because a tiny Serbian minority felt entitled to special privileges and asserted that by using Serbian paramilitary, militia, cetnikts who made my life miserable.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

There is a Letter of Appreciation from representatives of Brestovika, Ciga and Belopolje , praising Kosovoa Police for their trust and sevices to serb comunities to protect and serve. Now , today I read it myself that the representative from Brestovika has been forced to say what Belgrade wants him to say. He will be cought in a big lie becasue those letters with his signature will be hand it over to UNSC delegation. Exactly for this reason Brestovika was chosen, what i mean is to totally emmbarres serbia and reveale their dirty tricks.

nikshala

pre 17 godina

Good afternoon

"Eight years on and even your English, German and US "allies" are riding around in Armored Personnel Carriers." - Last time I checked, I never saw any army personnel riding in bicycles!

No NATO soldier has been killed by albanains in the last 8 years.



"Many Albanians live in Greece, Serbia, FYR Makedonia, Montenegro" - Do you wonder why??

Could it be becasue most Balkan nations ganged up together in the beginnig of 20th century, and used as an excuse an attack on Ottoman Empire to occupy albanian inhabited lands? ?

If no one wants to live with albanians, then why are serbs wanting to live in Kosovo and keep Kosovo, to live with albanians?

None of your statements make sense.

rex

pre 17 godina

I believe that somebody from Kosovans will ask the Russian Ambassador to the UN, country that strongly wants that a deal that is proposed from the west be accepted by both sides, what if that proposal would have been acceptable by Serb side and not by Kosovan one, will then Russia be in Kosovan side and threat the others with the Veto??

good afternoon

pre 17 godina

The Albanians have all but exhausted their victimhood status in the eyes of the international community but sadly not in the countries of their major backers (England/Germany/USA). Of course, historians will note that Albania was the NATO Pact-backed aggressor to begin with and not the victim. They might point out that, within "5 minutes" of the Serbian Armed Forces withdrawal from Kosovo & Metohija the "poor, victimized" UCK/KLA annexed 35% of FYR Macedonia. Not to mention that 15% of Montenegro is a no go area and that Greece is being constantly provoked. Just because Milosevic went in all guns blazing (like an American!) doesn't mean that there wasn't an Albanian terrorist threat to the entire region. Eight years on that threat is clearer than ever before.

Many Albanians live in Greece, Serbia, FYR Makedonia, Montenegro but no sane citizen of South East Europe or any other part of Europe would chose to live in Albania or Albanian annexed areas.

Ask yourself why that is, Albanians ?

Eight years on and even your English, German and US "allies" are riding around in Armored Personnel Carriers.

Suzana

pre 17 godina

Walt, Belgrade had 8 000 Albanians in 1989. Today Belgrade has 1 000 Albanians. Ethnic cleansing! Those who are left can never say they are Albanians and hide their nationality to avoid harassment and attacks from Serbs. Albanian journalist F. Musliu who lives in Belgrade and works for several news networks (RTK, BBC, VOA) in 2001 was arrested by the Serbian police only because he was Albanian. Another Kosovo actor Enver Petrovci who worked as actor at a Belgrade theatre had to leave Belgrade in 1999 when his house was occupied by Serbs. He explained when he asked for help from the police they told him to go to the court. Albanians who wants to speak Albanian and are proud of being Albanians are not welcome in Serbia. Those who hide their identity, speak Serbian fluently are welcome and only because they are looked at as Serbs. I think Albanians should use “10 000 Albanians- statement” to gain more rights in Serbia but when they ask for more rights and refers to 10 000 Serbian authorities will say: According to Serbian Bureau of Statistics there live only 1 000 Albanians in Belgrade.

tatiana stojkovic

pre 17 godina

oh yes the albanian demand of independence is blackmail. they are telling the world that if independence is not granted there will be chaos in the balkans.

Marios Vassiliou

pre 17 godina

I trust that the US anf U.K have promised to the Albanian side independence. As things look like this will not go that way.
The Albanian side must persue to live along with the Serbs under a supervised independence. The case of the Albanians 8 years ago is much different than it is now, the progrom against Kosovo Serbs must not happen.
Reconciliation is the only solution. Where it happened was a success and people are living together. Nationalism whereever it comes from only sparks more nationalism from the other side. Serbia's position is clear, anything but independence, Albanians must grab on that and built up Kosovo in peace and prosperity.
In Cyprus we had the same chance and we rejected it, still we are talking about it and the island remains devided. Don't let this happen to your country.
Albanian nationalism must end before the whole region explodes. Borders do not change with demographics, what is offered by the Serbian goverment should be appreciated.

Stevan

pre 17 godina

Walt, Serbia is actually most multy cultural of all ex- Yugoslavia, around 35% of Serbian citizens aren't of Serb ethnical origin. That is in very sharp contrast with other states of ex- YU who become almost completely mono ethnic.

Make your own conclusions who is tolerant and who isn't.

Princip, UK

pre 17 godina

Excellent points Walt - the Serb leadership are willing to have frank, open and real negotiations on finding that solution that ALL deserve that will create a lasting and stable solution - that is all it wants - to give peace a real chance!!!

I have asked the same question before what differrenciates ethnic-Albanian from the Serbian province of Kosovo & Metohija from an ethnic-Albanian from anywhere else within Serbia?

The only argument is that violence will errupt if the ethnic-Albanians in serbia's province of KiM are not given everything they demand - even by US & UK officials and analysts!! But the rewarding of threats of violence is completly against all that these countries once stood for as principles. I am lost on their reasoning why they now suggest that this must be done & in haste, while ruling out all bar the one alternative that Ahtisaari suggests. However, even he himself has admitted never in the year and a half of so called "negotiations" discussed any other alternative - hardly what one would term "negotiation".

Surely the UN SC can only suggest that the folly of imposing one solution that is the maxim of one of the parties (ethnic-Albanins of Serbia's province of KiM) is pure fantasy and more substantive talks on finding a stable solution that all do agree on!

“Peace is not the absence of conflict but the presence of creative alternatives for responding to conflict - alternatives to passive or aggressive responses, alternatives to violence.”
- Dorothy Thompson

It is time that everyone starts thinking out of the box US, EU, Russia, Serbia and the ethnic-Albanians of KiM to find that alternative that can bring lasting peace and stability that all deserve!

nikshala

pre 17 godina

Walt

That is not the reason for indpendence.

The fact is that albanians in Kosovo absolutely do not want to be part of Serbiam and they detest the idea, after what Milosevic regime did.

Therefore any solution that make Kosovo part of Serbia, will not function in reality. The economic situation will continue to get worse which will create more destability, uncertainy, and increase tensions.

Its is not about whether albanians can live with serbs. Albanians can live with serbs, but not under Serbia's regime.

I mean look at the recent adopeted consittion of Serbia. There is no mention of 2 million albanians in Kosovo who make 92 - 94% of Kosovos population.

Do you think Serbia would be willing to give albanians double majority in parliament (same as serbs would get in Kos. under Ahtisaaris plan), change the constitution, flag, national, national anthem, etc. to reflect the multi ethnic character os Serbia?? Especially with the Radaical being the most popular party in Serbia and growing in popularity.

Whe all know the answer to that.

At the moment albanians would make around 20 - 25 % of population in Serbia. With the very high natality of Albanians, and decreasing popualtion of Serbs, in two three decades the percentage of albanians would be much higher. Especcially if some of the 500 000 albanins that left during Milosevic regime where to return.

So it is not about the threat of violence, but it is about he fact that in reality any solution less then independence will not work. So it would not be a solution but delay.

You cannot ignore the wish of 92-94% of population of Kosovo.

Kosovo only became part of Serbia in 1912 after their illegal occupation against the wish of local popualtion.

I don't remeber any UN document or resolution giving Kosovo to Serbia. And there certainly wasn't any 'mutually accepted' solution acceptable to both sides. (Serbia- albanians, ottoman empire).

Kosovo was given to Serbia by superpowers at the time becasue Serbia was on the winnig side. It had nothing to do with international law.

And Serbia has not respected UN charter and international law in the last 50 years, and all of the sudden it has become their Bible when it suits them.

Rifat Elshani

pre 17 godina

Peja Munici.Brestovik serb leader Miodrag Dasic deklared today in Koha Ditore that He must change his testimony in the meeting with UN Fackt Finding Mission because of directives he has got from Belgrade.
So he is going to tell "the truth,nothing but the truth so help me Belgrade"

Walt.Z

pre 17 godina

Surely there must be a way to have Serbs & Albanians in Kosovo live in peace. A solution which takes both sides concerns into account must be found. Until recently i was unaware that Albanians lived peacefully in Serbia proper. This goes against statements made by some that the two sides cannot live together. Everything must be done to preserve peace, stability, and last but certainly not least, international law from which the world relies on to prevent violence & injustice. I believe giving Kosovo independence using the excuse that if we don't the Albanians will attack the Serbs is not a just nor legal solution. Quite frankly it is pure and simple blackmail that should be rejected.

Rifat Elshani

pre 17 godina

Peja Munici.Brestovik serb leader Miodrag Dasic deklared today in Koha Ditore that He must change his testimony in the meeting with UN Fackt Finding Mission because of directives he has got from Belgrade.
So he is going to tell "the truth,nothing but the truth so help me Belgrade"

Walt.Z

pre 17 godina

Surely there must be a way to have Serbs & Albanians in Kosovo live in peace. A solution which takes both sides concerns into account must be found. Until recently i was unaware that Albanians lived peacefully in Serbia proper. This goes against statements made by some that the two sides cannot live together. Everything must be done to preserve peace, stability, and last but certainly not least, international law from which the world relies on to prevent violence & injustice. I believe giving Kosovo independence using the excuse that if we don't the Albanians will attack the Serbs is not a just nor legal solution. Quite frankly it is pure and simple blackmail that should be rejected.

tatiana stojkovic

pre 17 godina

oh yes the albanian demand of independence is blackmail. they are telling the world that if independence is not granted there will be chaos in the balkans.

Princip, UK

pre 17 godina

Excellent points Walt - the Serb leadership are willing to have frank, open and real negotiations on finding that solution that ALL deserve that will create a lasting and stable solution - that is all it wants - to give peace a real chance!!!

I have asked the same question before what differrenciates ethnic-Albanian from the Serbian province of Kosovo & Metohija from an ethnic-Albanian from anywhere else within Serbia?

The only argument is that violence will errupt if the ethnic-Albanians in serbia's province of KiM are not given everything they demand - even by US & UK officials and analysts!! But the rewarding of threats of violence is completly against all that these countries once stood for as principles. I am lost on their reasoning why they now suggest that this must be done & in haste, while ruling out all bar the one alternative that Ahtisaari suggests. However, even he himself has admitted never in the year and a half of so called "negotiations" discussed any other alternative - hardly what one would term "negotiation".

Surely the UN SC can only suggest that the folly of imposing one solution that is the maxim of one of the parties (ethnic-Albanins of Serbia's province of KiM) is pure fantasy and more substantive talks on finding a stable solution that all do agree on!

“Peace is not the absence of conflict but the presence of creative alternatives for responding to conflict - alternatives to passive or aggressive responses, alternatives to violence.”
- Dorothy Thompson

It is time that everyone starts thinking out of the box US, EU, Russia, Serbia and the ethnic-Albanians of KiM to find that alternative that can bring lasting peace and stability that all deserve!

Stevan

pre 17 godina

Walt, Serbia is actually most multy cultural of all ex- Yugoslavia, around 35% of Serbian citizens aren't of Serb ethnical origin. That is in very sharp contrast with other states of ex- YU who become almost completely mono ethnic.

Make your own conclusions who is tolerant and who isn't.

nikshala

pre 17 godina

Walt

That is not the reason for indpendence.

The fact is that albanians in Kosovo absolutely do not want to be part of Serbiam and they detest the idea, after what Milosevic regime did.

Therefore any solution that make Kosovo part of Serbia, will not function in reality. The economic situation will continue to get worse which will create more destability, uncertainy, and increase tensions.

Its is not about whether albanians can live with serbs. Albanians can live with serbs, but not under Serbia's regime.

I mean look at the recent adopeted consittion of Serbia. There is no mention of 2 million albanians in Kosovo who make 92 - 94% of Kosovos population.

Do you think Serbia would be willing to give albanians double majority in parliament (same as serbs would get in Kos. under Ahtisaaris plan), change the constitution, flag, national, national anthem, etc. to reflect the multi ethnic character os Serbia?? Especially with the Radaical being the most popular party in Serbia and growing in popularity.

Whe all know the answer to that.

At the moment albanians would make around 20 - 25 % of population in Serbia. With the very high natality of Albanians, and decreasing popualtion of Serbs, in two three decades the percentage of albanians would be much higher. Especcially if some of the 500 000 albanins that left during Milosevic regime where to return.

So it is not about the threat of violence, but it is about he fact that in reality any solution less then independence will not work. So it would not be a solution but delay.

You cannot ignore the wish of 92-94% of population of Kosovo.

Kosovo only became part of Serbia in 1912 after their illegal occupation against the wish of local popualtion.

I don't remeber any UN document or resolution giving Kosovo to Serbia. And there certainly wasn't any 'mutually accepted' solution acceptable to both sides. (Serbia- albanians, ottoman empire).

Kosovo was given to Serbia by superpowers at the time becasue Serbia was on the winnig side. It had nothing to do with international law.

And Serbia has not respected UN charter and international law in the last 50 years, and all of the sudden it has become their Bible when it suits them.

Marios Vassiliou

pre 17 godina

I trust that the US anf U.K have promised to the Albanian side independence. As things look like this will not go that way.
The Albanian side must persue to live along with the Serbs under a supervised independence. The case of the Albanians 8 years ago is much different than it is now, the progrom against Kosovo Serbs must not happen.
Reconciliation is the only solution. Where it happened was a success and people are living together. Nationalism whereever it comes from only sparks more nationalism from the other side. Serbia's position is clear, anything but independence, Albanians must grab on that and built up Kosovo in peace and prosperity.
In Cyprus we had the same chance and we rejected it, still we are talking about it and the island remains devided. Don't let this happen to your country.
Albanian nationalism must end before the whole region explodes. Borders do not change with demographics, what is offered by the Serbian goverment should be appreciated.

Suzana

pre 17 godina

Walt, Belgrade had 8 000 Albanians in 1989. Today Belgrade has 1 000 Albanians. Ethnic cleansing! Those who are left can never say they are Albanians and hide their nationality to avoid harassment and attacks from Serbs. Albanian journalist F. Musliu who lives in Belgrade and works for several news networks (RTK, BBC, VOA) in 2001 was arrested by the Serbian police only because he was Albanian. Another Kosovo actor Enver Petrovci who worked as actor at a Belgrade theatre had to leave Belgrade in 1999 when his house was occupied by Serbs. He explained when he asked for help from the police they told him to go to the court. Albanians who wants to speak Albanian and are proud of being Albanians are not welcome in Serbia. Those who hide their identity, speak Serbian fluently are welcome and only because they are looked at as Serbs. I think Albanians should use “10 000 Albanians- statement” to gain more rights in Serbia but when they ask for more rights and refers to 10 000 Serbian authorities will say: According to Serbian Bureau of Statistics there live only 1 000 Albanians in Belgrade.

good afternoon

pre 17 godina

The Albanians have all but exhausted their victimhood status in the eyes of the international community but sadly not in the countries of their major backers (England/Germany/USA). Of course, historians will note that Albania was the NATO Pact-backed aggressor to begin with and not the victim. They might point out that, within "5 minutes" of the Serbian Armed Forces withdrawal from Kosovo & Metohija the "poor, victimized" UCK/KLA annexed 35% of FYR Macedonia. Not to mention that 15% of Montenegro is a no go area and that Greece is being constantly provoked. Just because Milosevic went in all guns blazing (like an American!) doesn't mean that there wasn't an Albanian terrorist threat to the entire region. Eight years on that threat is clearer than ever before.

Many Albanians live in Greece, Serbia, FYR Makedonia, Montenegro but no sane citizen of South East Europe or any other part of Europe would chose to live in Albania or Albanian annexed areas.

Ask yourself why that is, Albanians ?

Eight years on and even your English, German and US "allies" are riding around in Armored Personnel Carriers.

rex

pre 17 godina

I believe that somebody from Kosovans will ask the Russian Ambassador to the UN, country that strongly wants that a deal that is proposed from the west be accepted by both sides, what if that proposal would have been acceptable by Serb side and not by Kosovan one, will then Russia be in Kosovan side and threat the others with the Veto??

nikshala

pre 17 godina

Good afternoon

"Eight years on and even your English, German and US "allies" are riding around in Armored Personnel Carriers." - Last time I checked, I never saw any army personnel riding in bicycles!

No NATO soldier has been killed by albanains in the last 8 years.



"Many Albanians live in Greece, Serbia, FYR Makedonia, Montenegro" - Do you wonder why??

Could it be becasue most Balkan nations ganged up together in the beginnig of 20th century, and used as an excuse an attack on Ottoman Empire to occupy albanian inhabited lands? ?

If no one wants to live with albanians, then why are serbs wanting to live in Kosovo and keep Kosovo, to live with albanians?

None of your statements make sense.

laki NY

pre 17 godina

I didn’t leave Prishtina-Kosova for USA because I was fascinated by Hollywood movies and I decided to chase the "american dream". I left out Kosova because a tiny Serbian minority felt entitled to special privileges and asserted that by using Serbian paramilitary, militia, cetnikts who made my life miserable.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

There is a Letter of Appreciation from representatives of Brestovika, Ciga and Belopolje , praising Kosovoa Police for their trust and sevices to serb comunities to protect and serve. Now , today I read it myself that the representative from Brestovika has been forced to say what Belgrade wants him to say. He will be cought in a big lie becasue those letters with his signature will be hand it over to UNSC delegation. Exactly for this reason Brestovika was chosen, what i mean is to totally emmbarres serbia and reveale their dirty tricks.

lowe

pre 17 godina

"There is a Letter of Appreciation from representatives of Brestovika, Ciga and Belopolje , praising Kosovoa Police for their trust and sevices to serb comunities to protect and serve. Now , today I read it myself that the representative from Brestovika has been forced to say what Belgrade wants him to say. He will be cought in a big lie becasue those letters with his signature will be hand it over to UNSC delegation. Exactly for this reason Brestovika was chosen, what i mean is to totally emmbarres serbia and reveale their dirty tricks.
(Ahmet Isufi, Friday, 27 April, 2007, 15:22)"

How can we be sure that these letters of appreciation were not produced under coercion or bribery? I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

Philip Davies

pre 17 godina

The problem with your argument nikshala is that Serbia is the nation of Serbs, whereas Kosovo cannot be the nation of Albanians because Albania exists.

The new constitution doesn't refer to an ethnicities except "The Republic of Serbia shall develop and promote relations of Serbs
living abroad with the kin state."

"UN document or resolution giving Kosovo to Serbia." Kosovo was part of Serbia as defined in the various constiutions of the SFRY and Serbia itself. This was an internal affair and nothing to do with the UN.

So why Laki have you not returned to Kosovo?

sunny

pre 17 godina

to all you nationalist, dont forget the screaming voices of mutilated children old men abused woman and healthy young men mutilated and killed in the name serbian nationalisim, not 10,000 but more, since before 1999. do they not have voices, did they die in vain, were the kosovo albanians expelled for nothing, can hate exist so much, that sorry can not be said. imagine your mother your father brothers and sister experincing what they had gone thru. responsible democratic governments do not do what the serbs did to there so called citizens for 90 + years. im not sure in 8yrs, that serbia has demonstrated a responsable degree of democracy as a start. to not include kalb as citizens and there rights within serbia and allocated parlimentary seats, why??? thats a compromise supervised by the eu and nato!!!!???? the albanians of serbia have compromised and will settle and work within serb institution not becoz they want to, but for the sake of an independant kosovo, same with all the albanian inhabited regions

Rod

pre 17 godina

"dont forget the screaming voices of mutilated children old men abused woman and healthy young men mutilated and killed in the name serbian nationalisim, not 10,000 but more, since before 1999."

Sunny your post is completely devoid of any fact.

First of all, the 10,000 killed figure that you gave represents everyone who died in the 1999 war, Serb,Roma & Albanian civillians, Yugoslav soldiers, KLA terrorists,etc.

Secondly, the "screaming voices of mutilated men, women, children" that you seem to be hearing are no doubt coming from the victims of Albanian Nationalism in Kosovo. In fact you probably
heard the Serb voices coming from the Ruzica border crossing (15,000 of them at last report).

Lets not forget that Serbs were a majority of over 60% in Kosovo prior to 1940. Serbs became the minority in Kosovo after WWII, as a direct result of Genocide committed against them by the Albanian Nazi S.S. Skanderburg Division.

How many hundreds of thousands of Serbs, Jews, & Gypsies have the Albanians terrorized into leaving over the past 50 some years?

Lets also not forget that since "peace" was declared in 1999, over 230,000 Serbs & Roma were expelled from their homes, and either stolen their property, or razed it to the ground completely.
It's been 8 years and these poor people still can't reclaim their homes.

And finally we must also remember that over the past 8 years, over 150 ancient Orthodoxries and Shrines were destroyed by Albanians, in their attempt to commit "cultural genocide" against Kosovo's true heritage & people(the Serbs), in an attempt to erase every bit of proof that Kosovo i Metohija is NOT an Albanian homeland, rather it is a Serbian one.
This is identical to what
your friends the Taliban did in Afghanistan.

All I can say to you sunny is Tsk, Tsk...how dare you spread such lies and
propaganda, do you really think that we are all so naive?

nikshala

pre 17 godina

Rod

The difference between what you and sunny said, is this:

What sunny said is supported and confirmed by reports and studies from many independent sources and many countries, UN, OSCE, Red Cross etc etc. and not just from albanians

Most of what you are saying is only found in sources coming from Serbia with a Russian stamp on it. - especially when you talk about history, WW2, population make up etc.

Serbs have never been a majority in Kosovo, definently not in the last few centuries.

When Serbs 'liberated' Kosovo from Ottoman Empire the population in Kosovo was overwhelmly albanian.

genc

pre 17 godina

Rod,
the last paragraph of your comment fits perfectly to yours. Really cheap and naive propaganda. As for that enormous comparation to the Talibans, don't forget, the Holy Siege is in favour of Kosovo's independence

leka

pre 17 godina

Rod and other so-called patriotic serbs,
So what is the number of killed civilians in Kosova/a,Bosnia,Croatia and Slovenia??? Who started all these wars??? Why nobody wants to live with you??? even Montenegro??? Do you think the whole west is against or hates you and for what reason??? Hope we can meet in EU if not I wont cry about it...

sunny

pre 17 godina

rod, its hard to live a lie. i was there.how dare you!!!! thats all true with facts. and it stands. you dont have to like it, nor try to reconcile. you dont have to say sorry or do anything, live in the past or move forward, u can make excuses and avoid. there is a price in your out look, byzantiniam thinking has no room in a democratic eu my friend

Jovan

pre 17 godina

Nikshala,

you tell others that their comments do not make sense ( can´t remember now who it was ), and on the pretty same site, you are writing sentences like " Serbia has not respected UN charter and international law in the last 50 years"...

shall anybody take you serious here, with such an "analysis"?

come on, you can write better, I know it.

Adi

pre 17 godina

To: Rod

"Lets not forget that Serbs were a majority of over 60% in Kosovo prior to 1940"

I realy don't know how did you get this statistics but I have to say to you that you are completely wrong. The percentage of Serbian people in Kosovo never was more than 15 % (FYI).
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And as for "supervised autonomy" don't you think people this solution is to late for at least 20 years ??

=======

KOSOVO WILL BE INDEPENDENT, and for all of you that are not believe in this just wait "few weeks" as US Ambassador to UN said yesterday in Pristina.

Cheers,

herbert

pre 17 godina

i feel sorry for the albanian people to have such neighbors.

albanians seem to be way beyond the nonsense that the serbs deliver.

EU, well you all will need some time for this.

herbert, hamburg

sunny

pre 17 godina

Rod, u are defiant and show no sign of reconcilliation or remorse, tsk tsk and you go to church, it doesnt matter who is right or wrong it doesnt bring the dead back and doesnt protect the future. you can be right if you want, problem is everytime serbia is right mass amounts of people keep dieing???? it the 21st century

alban

pre 16 godina

".....Lets also not forget that since "peace" was declared in 1999, over 230,000 Serbs & Roma were expelled from their homes, and either stolen their property, or razed it to the ground completely.
It's been 8 years and these poor people still can't reclaim their homes. ......"

Rod ....
you probably have seen in RTS how those serbs were expelled from Kosova, :), however according to real news, noone touched them, noone expelled them,there was no Army taking them from their houses and moving them toward the Serbia border, those people left together with that cowardly serbian army, becouse those people knew what they did, those people were affaraid that someone might have seen them killing, ploundering, and doing all unspekable things to their albanian "friends".
Those people must have been mistaken thinking that Milosevic era will go forever on or did not count on the fact that someone more superior is watching them, those people should have known better , so there would not be any reason to leave Kosova.

need more arguments...?
and do not try to show the agressor as a victime please.

alban

pre 16 godina

"....Albanian nationalism must end before the whole region explodes. Borders do not change with demographics, what is offered by the Serbian goverment should be appreciated.
(Marios Vassiliou, Friday, 27 April, 2007, 12:56) "

So there are still some Democrtas from Democriti era, then levae all Cyprus to the Turkiye, and they could live in peace together....
I know , I know, you can not , is not becouse of nationalismus my friend , it is becouse there is a very deep root betwen you greeks and all your neighbours.
but thanks for your concern

Nik

pre 16 godina

to ROD:

you say our friends in Taliban??? Isn't that great though we have friends from all religions? I mean Muslim countries are pro Kosovo's independece just like Christian countries are??

Right now you got nothing to argue against so all you do is try to bring religion into this which isn't really helping you is it???

Isn't it fracturating for you guys to see churches around the world helping Alabanian muslims??

Rifat Elshani

pre 17 godina

Peja Munici.Brestovik serb leader Miodrag Dasic deklared today in Koha Ditore that He must change his testimony in the meeting with UN Fackt Finding Mission because of directives he has got from Belgrade.
So he is going to tell "the truth,nothing but the truth so help me Belgrade"

Walt.Z

pre 17 godina

Surely there must be a way to have Serbs & Albanians in Kosovo live in peace. A solution which takes both sides concerns into account must be found. Until recently i was unaware that Albanians lived peacefully in Serbia proper. This goes against statements made by some that the two sides cannot live together. Everything must be done to preserve peace, stability, and last but certainly not least, international law from which the world relies on to prevent violence & injustice. I believe giving Kosovo independence using the excuse that if we don't the Albanians will attack the Serbs is not a just nor legal solution. Quite frankly it is pure and simple blackmail that should be rejected.

tatiana stojkovic

pre 17 godina

oh yes the albanian demand of independence is blackmail. they are telling the world that if independence is not granted there will be chaos in the balkans.

Princip, UK

pre 17 godina

Excellent points Walt - the Serb leadership are willing to have frank, open and real negotiations on finding that solution that ALL deserve that will create a lasting and stable solution - that is all it wants - to give peace a real chance!!!

I have asked the same question before what differrenciates ethnic-Albanian from the Serbian province of Kosovo & Metohija from an ethnic-Albanian from anywhere else within Serbia?

The only argument is that violence will errupt if the ethnic-Albanians in serbia's province of KiM are not given everything they demand - even by US & UK officials and analysts!! But the rewarding of threats of violence is completly against all that these countries once stood for as principles. I am lost on their reasoning why they now suggest that this must be done & in haste, while ruling out all bar the one alternative that Ahtisaari suggests. However, even he himself has admitted never in the year and a half of so called "negotiations" discussed any other alternative - hardly what one would term "negotiation".

Surely the UN SC can only suggest that the folly of imposing one solution that is the maxim of one of the parties (ethnic-Albanins of Serbia's province of KiM) is pure fantasy and more substantive talks on finding a stable solution that all do agree on!

“Peace is not the absence of conflict but the presence of creative alternatives for responding to conflict - alternatives to passive or aggressive responses, alternatives to violence.”
- Dorothy Thompson

It is time that everyone starts thinking out of the box US, EU, Russia, Serbia and the ethnic-Albanians of KiM to find that alternative that can bring lasting peace and stability that all deserve!

Stevan

pre 17 godina

Walt, Serbia is actually most multy cultural of all ex- Yugoslavia, around 35% of Serbian citizens aren't of Serb ethnical origin. That is in very sharp contrast with other states of ex- YU who become almost completely mono ethnic.

Make your own conclusions who is tolerant and who isn't.

nikshala

pre 17 godina

Walt

That is not the reason for indpendence.

The fact is that albanians in Kosovo absolutely do not want to be part of Serbiam and they detest the idea, after what Milosevic regime did.

Therefore any solution that make Kosovo part of Serbia, will not function in reality. The economic situation will continue to get worse which will create more destability, uncertainy, and increase tensions.

Its is not about whether albanians can live with serbs. Albanians can live with serbs, but not under Serbia's regime.

I mean look at the recent adopeted consittion of Serbia. There is no mention of 2 million albanians in Kosovo who make 92 - 94% of Kosovos population.

Do you think Serbia would be willing to give albanians double majority in parliament (same as serbs would get in Kos. under Ahtisaaris plan), change the constitution, flag, national, national anthem, etc. to reflect the multi ethnic character os Serbia?? Especially with the Radaical being the most popular party in Serbia and growing in popularity.

Whe all know the answer to that.

At the moment albanians would make around 20 - 25 % of population in Serbia. With the very high natality of Albanians, and decreasing popualtion of Serbs, in two three decades the percentage of albanians would be much higher. Especcially if some of the 500 000 albanins that left during Milosevic regime where to return.

So it is not about the threat of violence, but it is about he fact that in reality any solution less then independence will not work. So it would not be a solution but delay.

You cannot ignore the wish of 92-94% of population of Kosovo.

Kosovo only became part of Serbia in 1912 after their illegal occupation against the wish of local popualtion.

I don't remeber any UN document or resolution giving Kosovo to Serbia. And there certainly wasn't any 'mutually accepted' solution acceptable to both sides. (Serbia- albanians, ottoman empire).

Kosovo was given to Serbia by superpowers at the time becasue Serbia was on the winnig side. It had nothing to do with international law.

And Serbia has not respected UN charter and international law in the last 50 years, and all of the sudden it has become their Bible when it suits them.

Marios Vassiliou

pre 17 godina

I trust that the US anf U.K have promised to the Albanian side independence. As things look like this will not go that way.
The Albanian side must persue to live along with the Serbs under a supervised independence. The case of the Albanians 8 years ago is much different than it is now, the progrom against Kosovo Serbs must not happen.
Reconciliation is the only solution. Where it happened was a success and people are living together. Nationalism whereever it comes from only sparks more nationalism from the other side. Serbia's position is clear, anything but independence, Albanians must grab on that and built up Kosovo in peace and prosperity.
In Cyprus we had the same chance and we rejected it, still we are talking about it and the island remains devided. Don't let this happen to your country.
Albanian nationalism must end before the whole region explodes. Borders do not change with demographics, what is offered by the Serbian goverment should be appreciated.

Suzana

pre 17 godina

Walt, Belgrade had 8 000 Albanians in 1989. Today Belgrade has 1 000 Albanians. Ethnic cleansing! Those who are left can never say they are Albanians and hide their nationality to avoid harassment and attacks from Serbs. Albanian journalist F. Musliu who lives in Belgrade and works for several news networks (RTK, BBC, VOA) in 2001 was arrested by the Serbian police only because he was Albanian. Another Kosovo actor Enver Petrovci who worked as actor at a Belgrade theatre had to leave Belgrade in 1999 when his house was occupied by Serbs. He explained when he asked for help from the police they told him to go to the court. Albanians who wants to speak Albanian and are proud of being Albanians are not welcome in Serbia. Those who hide their identity, speak Serbian fluently are welcome and only because they are looked at as Serbs. I think Albanians should use “10 000 Albanians- statement” to gain more rights in Serbia but when they ask for more rights and refers to 10 000 Serbian authorities will say: According to Serbian Bureau of Statistics there live only 1 000 Albanians in Belgrade.

good afternoon

pre 17 godina

The Albanians have all but exhausted their victimhood status in the eyes of the international community but sadly not in the countries of their major backers (England/Germany/USA). Of course, historians will note that Albania was the NATO Pact-backed aggressor to begin with and not the victim. They might point out that, within "5 minutes" of the Serbian Armed Forces withdrawal from Kosovo & Metohija the "poor, victimized" UCK/KLA annexed 35% of FYR Macedonia. Not to mention that 15% of Montenegro is a no go area and that Greece is being constantly provoked. Just because Milosevic went in all guns blazing (like an American!) doesn't mean that there wasn't an Albanian terrorist threat to the entire region. Eight years on that threat is clearer than ever before.

Many Albanians live in Greece, Serbia, FYR Makedonia, Montenegro but no sane citizen of South East Europe or any other part of Europe would chose to live in Albania or Albanian annexed areas.

Ask yourself why that is, Albanians ?

Eight years on and even your English, German and US "allies" are riding around in Armored Personnel Carriers.

rex

pre 17 godina

I believe that somebody from Kosovans will ask the Russian Ambassador to the UN, country that strongly wants that a deal that is proposed from the west be accepted by both sides, what if that proposal would have been acceptable by Serb side and not by Kosovan one, will then Russia be in Kosovan side and threat the others with the Veto??

nikshala

pre 17 godina

Good afternoon

"Eight years on and even your English, German and US "allies" are riding around in Armored Personnel Carriers." - Last time I checked, I never saw any army personnel riding in bicycles!

No NATO soldier has been killed by albanains in the last 8 years.



"Many Albanians live in Greece, Serbia, FYR Makedonia, Montenegro" - Do you wonder why??

Could it be becasue most Balkan nations ganged up together in the beginnig of 20th century, and used as an excuse an attack on Ottoman Empire to occupy albanian inhabited lands? ?

If no one wants to live with albanians, then why are serbs wanting to live in Kosovo and keep Kosovo, to live with albanians?

None of your statements make sense.

laki NY

pre 17 godina

I didn’t leave Prishtina-Kosova for USA because I was fascinated by Hollywood movies and I decided to chase the "american dream". I left out Kosova because a tiny Serbian minority felt entitled to special privileges and asserted that by using Serbian paramilitary, militia, cetnikts who made my life miserable.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

There is a Letter of Appreciation from representatives of Brestovika, Ciga and Belopolje , praising Kosovoa Police for their trust and sevices to serb comunities to protect and serve. Now , today I read it myself that the representative from Brestovika has been forced to say what Belgrade wants him to say. He will be cought in a big lie becasue those letters with his signature will be hand it over to UNSC delegation. Exactly for this reason Brestovika was chosen, what i mean is to totally emmbarres serbia and reveale their dirty tricks.

lowe

pre 17 godina

"There is a Letter of Appreciation from representatives of Brestovika, Ciga and Belopolje , praising Kosovoa Police for their trust and sevices to serb comunities to protect and serve. Now , today I read it myself that the representative from Brestovika has been forced to say what Belgrade wants him to say. He will be cought in a big lie becasue those letters with his signature will be hand it over to UNSC delegation. Exactly for this reason Brestovika was chosen, what i mean is to totally emmbarres serbia and reveale their dirty tricks.
(Ahmet Isufi, Friday, 27 April, 2007, 15:22)"

How can we be sure that these letters of appreciation were not produced under coercion or bribery? I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

Philip Davies

pre 17 godina

The problem with your argument nikshala is that Serbia is the nation of Serbs, whereas Kosovo cannot be the nation of Albanians because Albania exists.

The new constitution doesn't refer to an ethnicities except "The Republic of Serbia shall develop and promote relations of Serbs
living abroad with the kin state."

"UN document or resolution giving Kosovo to Serbia." Kosovo was part of Serbia as defined in the various constiutions of the SFRY and Serbia itself. This was an internal affair and nothing to do with the UN.

So why Laki have you not returned to Kosovo?

sunny

pre 17 godina

to all you nationalist, dont forget the screaming voices of mutilated children old men abused woman and healthy young men mutilated and killed in the name serbian nationalisim, not 10,000 but more, since before 1999. do they not have voices, did they die in vain, were the kosovo albanians expelled for nothing, can hate exist so much, that sorry can not be said. imagine your mother your father brothers and sister experincing what they had gone thru. responsible democratic governments do not do what the serbs did to there so called citizens for 90 + years. im not sure in 8yrs, that serbia has demonstrated a responsable degree of democracy as a start. to not include kalb as citizens and there rights within serbia and allocated parlimentary seats, why??? thats a compromise supervised by the eu and nato!!!!???? the albanians of serbia have compromised and will settle and work within serb institution not becoz they want to, but for the sake of an independant kosovo, same with all the albanian inhabited regions

Rod

pre 17 godina

"dont forget the screaming voices of mutilated children old men abused woman and healthy young men mutilated and killed in the name serbian nationalisim, not 10,000 but more, since before 1999."

Sunny your post is completely devoid of any fact.

First of all, the 10,000 killed figure that you gave represents everyone who died in the 1999 war, Serb,Roma & Albanian civillians, Yugoslav soldiers, KLA terrorists,etc.

Secondly, the "screaming voices of mutilated men, women, children" that you seem to be hearing are no doubt coming from the victims of Albanian Nationalism in Kosovo. In fact you probably
heard the Serb voices coming from the Ruzica border crossing (15,000 of them at last report).

Lets not forget that Serbs were a majority of over 60% in Kosovo prior to 1940. Serbs became the minority in Kosovo after WWII, as a direct result of Genocide committed against them by the Albanian Nazi S.S. Skanderburg Division.

How many hundreds of thousands of Serbs, Jews, & Gypsies have the Albanians terrorized into leaving over the past 50 some years?

Lets also not forget that since "peace" was declared in 1999, over 230,000 Serbs & Roma were expelled from their homes, and either stolen their property, or razed it to the ground completely.
It's been 8 years and these poor people still can't reclaim their homes.

And finally we must also remember that over the past 8 years, over 150 ancient Orthodoxries and Shrines were destroyed by Albanians, in their attempt to commit "cultural genocide" against Kosovo's true heritage & people(the Serbs), in an attempt to erase every bit of proof that Kosovo i Metohija is NOT an Albanian homeland, rather it is a Serbian one.
This is identical to what
your friends the Taliban did in Afghanistan.

All I can say to you sunny is Tsk, Tsk...how dare you spread such lies and
propaganda, do you really think that we are all so naive?

nikshala

pre 17 godina

Rod

The difference between what you and sunny said, is this:

What sunny said is supported and confirmed by reports and studies from many independent sources and many countries, UN, OSCE, Red Cross etc etc. and not just from albanians

Most of what you are saying is only found in sources coming from Serbia with a Russian stamp on it. - especially when you talk about history, WW2, population make up etc.

Serbs have never been a majority in Kosovo, definently not in the last few centuries.

When Serbs 'liberated' Kosovo from Ottoman Empire the population in Kosovo was overwhelmly albanian.

genc

pre 17 godina

Rod,
the last paragraph of your comment fits perfectly to yours. Really cheap and naive propaganda. As for that enormous comparation to the Talibans, don't forget, the Holy Siege is in favour of Kosovo's independence

leka

pre 17 godina

Rod and other so-called patriotic serbs,
So what is the number of killed civilians in Kosova/a,Bosnia,Croatia and Slovenia??? Who started all these wars??? Why nobody wants to live with you??? even Montenegro??? Do you think the whole west is against or hates you and for what reason??? Hope we can meet in EU if not I wont cry about it...

sunny

pre 17 godina

rod, its hard to live a lie. i was there.how dare you!!!! thats all true with facts. and it stands. you dont have to like it, nor try to reconcile. you dont have to say sorry or do anything, live in the past or move forward, u can make excuses and avoid. there is a price in your out look, byzantiniam thinking has no room in a democratic eu my friend

Jovan

pre 17 godina

Nikshala,

you tell others that their comments do not make sense ( can´t remember now who it was ), and on the pretty same site, you are writing sentences like " Serbia has not respected UN charter and international law in the last 50 years"...

shall anybody take you serious here, with such an "analysis"?

come on, you can write better, I know it.

Adi

pre 17 godina

To: Rod

"Lets not forget that Serbs were a majority of over 60% in Kosovo prior to 1940"

I realy don't know how did you get this statistics but I have to say to you that you are completely wrong. The percentage of Serbian people in Kosovo never was more than 15 % (FYI).
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And as for "supervised autonomy" don't you think people this solution is to late for at least 20 years ??

=======

KOSOVO WILL BE INDEPENDENT, and for all of you that are not believe in this just wait "few weeks" as US Ambassador to UN said yesterday in Pristina.

Cheers,

herbert

pre 17 godina

i feel sorry for the albanian people to have such neighbors.

albanians seem to be way beyond the nonsense that the serbs deliver.

EU, well you all will need some time for this.

herbert, hamburg

sunny

pre 17 godina

Rod, u are defiant and show no sign of reconcilliation or remorse, tsk tsk and you go to church, it doesnt matter who is right or wrong it doesnt bring the dead back and doesnt protect the future. you can be right if you want, problem is everytime serbia is right mass amounts of people keep dieing???? it the 21st century

alban

pre 16 godina

".....Lets also not forget that since "peace" was declared in 1999, over 230,000 Serbs & Roma were expelled from their homes, and either stolen their property, or razed it to the ground completely.
It's been 8 years and these poor people still can't reclaim their homes. ......"

Rod ....
you probably have seen in RTS how those serbs were expelled from Kosova, :), however according to real news, noone touched them, noone expelled them,there was no Army taking them from their houses and moving them toward the Serbia border, those people left together with that cowardly serbian army, becouse those people knew what they did, those people were affaraid that someone might have seen them killing, ploundering, and doing all unspekable things to their albanian "friends".
Those people must have been mistaken thinking that Milosevic era will go forever on or did not count on the fact that someone more superior is watching them, those people should have known better , so there would not be any reason to leave Kosova.

need more arguments...?
and do not try to show the agressor as a victime please.

alban

pre 16 godina

"....Albanian nationalism must end before the whole region explodes. Borders do not change with demographics, what is offered by the Serbian goverment should be appreciated.
(Marios Vassiliou, Friday, 27 April, 2007, 12:56) "

So there are still some Democrtas from Democriti era, then levae all Cyprus to the Turkiye, and they could live in peace together....
I know , I know, you can not , is not becouse of nationalismus my friend , it is becouse there is a very deep root betwen you greeks and all your neighbours.
but thanks for your concern

Nik

pre 16 godina

to ROD:

you say our friends in Taliban??? Isn't that great though we have friends from all religions? I mean Muslim countries are pro Kosovo's independece just like Christian countries are??

Right now you got nothing to argue against so all you do is try to bring religion into this which isn't really helping you is it???

Isn't it fracturating for you guys to see churches around the world helping Alabanian muslims??