“Moscow prepares its own Kosovo resolution”

I would suggets that the best option remains that continued talks on finding a formula that all can agree on is the best possible way in which all the peoples of Serbia can progress.

Needless to say my continued mantra of win-win looks all the more likely as the days, weeks and months have passed.

For those who are of equal mind on the way forward I would be interested in direct discussions;

principuk@hotmail.co.uk

Partition of the Serbian state will just continue with the hatred - in fact is more likely to further distance the opportunity for reconciliation that is much required and desreved of all the peoples of Serbia.

As far as I know, Russia's position till now was an agreement between two parts: albanians and serbs. Does that mean that if albanians will not agree with the plan from them proposed then russians will reject it? What if serbs will agree and albanians not? Will they begin on supporting albanians?

I don't think that anybody will stop the Kosova to be independent. It may be some delays but in the end the people of Kosova will decide. An Albanian sentence says: "It may be detention but it has no salvation" that means the process may be delayed many times but Kosova will be independent, anyway.

It’s more then 90% Albanians in Kosovo does that count for something.
Russia wants to make a meal out of Kosovo. I blame Mr Ahtisari for not slipping a check inside the proposal letters when it was sent out to Russia. It could have made life a lot easier for everyone; perhaps he was not aware of Russian “democratic governmental policies”.
If Russians were experts in running a country, they wouldn’t have so many problems solving their own issues especially in Chechnya. Russia has nothing positive to demonstrate to the world with reference to a successively government.

It looks like Russia just like Serbia is running out of options regarding Kosovo. Mr Drashkovic does that mean that Mr Lavrov told you that Russia will not veto the resolution based on Ahtissari's plan put forward by the west countries?? We've seen a lot of options and suggestions coming from Serbia that Kosovo should gain Autonomy (Highest ever), a state within Serbia's borders, partition, and what not.But the west has been so determined and that is proving that Kosovo must be independent to be able to move forward to the future.
After all this years of status quo and unsureness's Kosovo Albanians never been so close to win what they deserve they own state, and serbs never been so close not to have Kosovo as an excuses for their nationalistic minds!!!
Kosovo Independence will be a deserved gift for Kosovars that suffered for a century under serbian regime.
Kosovo Independence will be a gift for any upcoming Serbian Government to look forward to EU and a stable Serbia!

cheers

P.S princip its a wasting time to discuss with you whatever subject regarding Kosovo, I think you just like your leader T.Nikoliq should give up politics and your "analysis" once Kosovo becomes Independent and do whatever you do in your life.

Arlind you are right. About Lavrov or Russians in general I can not say anything anymore because B92 censures my my comments moderate. It starts to be a forum where people do not get the same chance to be heard.

Rovena, good point there.. lets say Russia comes up with a proposal, and we Albanians reject it, will they still support it or caught on lie?

More talks will produce nothing. Kosovo is like a cancer. The faster you cut off the diseased area, the faster you can resume a normal life. The only real solution is to divide Kosovo.

Princip,

I carefully read your commment; it sounds good, if these talks ocurred in 1992/3 or latest '95 in order to find a suitable solution without separation, eg. confederation Serbia-Kosova-Montenegro, because not even as a equal republic in the federation with Milosevic would not satisfy K/Albanians after all what was done to them during the 89-91 not even to discuss 92-99.
After all, I think it is to late to find a solution other than indpendence. What is more important, Kosova and Serbia, but also Montenegro, Albania and Macedonia should move forward in other aspects - economical, prefarably entering EU with a rappid procedure (I read these days that Kosovo will be considered for such a thing after the independence). We can deal with politics all life long but life is too short for solving problems that are not solved for ceturies...

The Russians have been very clear all along and just if anyone needs a reminder I suggest they read this previous B92 report with Aleksandar Alekseyev, Russian Ambassador to Serbia, in December to qoute;

"I must stress that the Kosovo problem must be solved in line with the international law, with the principles of European security, and the UN Security Council resolution 1244. And, Kosovo temporary institutions prime minister Agim Ceku was briefed about this position in detail during his recent visit to Moscow."

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/tvshows.php?yyyy=2006&mm=12&nav_id=38393

When i say reflect, i mean it literally. Your Slavic brothers didn't want to live with you, who shared common cultural, religious and historical values so why do you expect Kosovar Albanians to live with you?

Think for the sake of the majority of Serbians who are being dragged with this idiotic government who raises false hops only to leave a deep disillusion on the people.
I pity those who support the stance of the Serbian government but i genuinely feel sorry for those who have been swept by the same brush and have no say over anything really not just the Kosovan issue.
Only light minded people would use the historical card specially taking into account the genocides commited by them on their people. This is Europe is not Africa nor Russia , therefore with the current Serbian government stanc the inevitable will happen, there was the time when you were able to lie and get it your own way but no more It stopped once and for all, Kosovars are able to speak for themselves now and rightfully have claimed what has been theirs.

"Rovena, good point there.. lets say Russia comes up with a proposal, and we Albanians reject it, will they still support it or caught on lie?
(Pejon07, Monday, 23 April, 2007, 14:17)"

Do you guys realize what you're writing???

It's not the Serbs, but albaninas who are trying to steal land illegally.

This is brilliant! Russia is about to prove to the world that the west is not at all concerned with the rule of law, territory integrity of sovereign states or any other nuisance that might get in the way of their quest for world dominance. The US is trying to bribe Russia but can't. Russia is debt free, but the US is the largest debtor nation in the world so what does Russia need from the west? Nothing! If Russia & allies (China, India, etc) step up to the plate, it's game over: No Kosovo independence, Multipolar world, and finally some stability. Joe; I feel your pain, but B92 has censured my comments many times, I know you have a victim mentality but we are all big boys now.

Princip and Rovenna are right. It seems a stable solution will have to be found between both proposal - even though I don't know what the Russian counterproposal is. Also, let's not throw out the Ahtisaari Plan entirely. There are many provisions there that give generous offers to the Serbs and the SPC. If the true spirit of compromise is in the air to guarantee an internationally-binding resolution, then lets' see both sides of the issue (Washington and Moscow) find common ground.

Moscow has no rights to submit the resolution because they didn't spend an Dollar or Euro inn kosovo issue.
US and EU are advocates of Kosova independence:)

No matter how much I want to restrain myself in commenting, in the end prevails the wish to put down my remarks on agendas presented here.
First of all, I think that Mr. Draskovic’s statement regarding “the Russian desire to defend territorial integrity of UN members, with…UN Charter” isn’t satisfactory convincing; since, it is accurately Russia itself who is with both legs involved in several regions of the former soviet republics with obstructions of anything that aspires normality there. So, Mr. Draskovic this isn’t (or it shouldn’t be) serious stance of a politician who pretend to tackle such a problem as Kosova/o.
One another remark; the need of reconciliation of entire Serbian population towards whom? In my opinion Serbian people should set to build strategy first of all in finding the way and be very careful on asserting its request for forgiveness towards the nations that have so much suffered because of illogical Serbian people during 90’s.

“Lavrov reiterated that Russia was defending fundamental European and democratic principles by insisting on the preservation of Serbia’s territorial integrity and demanding maximum rights for Serbs in Kosovo with full protection of churches and monasteries,” Drašković said

This is so funny, Russia is defending fundamental European and democratic principles. Unbelivable!!! How low Mr. Drašković can go to mislead his nation? I don't think we have seen his bottom yet but we will in due course.

I just think that someone is not telling the truth (better say someon is lying), of whatever took place in that meeting. This is too good to be true, Russia is defending European values, again unbelivable!!!

And before you all start lamenting and crying how bad US and its people are as some do here on daily basis please read the following article on b92 and enlighten yourself a little bit

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2007&mm=04&dd=23&nav_category=11&nav_id=243330

On the other hand Serbia has managed to strip Kosova of all its educational system in less than a year during 90's. It had closed University of Prishtina, and every school of higher education in Albanian language and then some here wonder why Kosova should become independent!!!

I guess anyone can post here weather they have a point or just want to send nationalistic ravings out over the internet. As a non-serb, non-albanian US citizen I have to say that this is completely insane. There is no grounds for independance here. You can't revolt by birth and take land from a sovereign state. Breading the population to take over is the same as if you marched in an army and set up shop.

This goes against everything the United Nations stands for. I can't believe my goverment would be a party to this but with a president like Bush nothings suprises me anymore.

Sorry to all the Ethnic Abanians out there but you're in the wrong. You're plans to steal land from Serbia, Macedonia, Greece, and Montenegro to form a greater albania is similar to Hitlers ideas and plans for Germany in the 1930's hopefully with a Russian, Chinese veto the rest of the world will see this and put the matter to bed once and for all.

Independence is not stealing or land grab.

The west is correcting its mistake for giving away Kosovo territory to Serbia in 1912 afte the occupition, with an overwhelmengly majority albanian population.

I mean Turks ruled kosovo longer than serbs!!

These historical claims are a joke.

The time of colonies is over.

Ii would like to make a correction in the last phrase on my previous comment. Instead …..nations that have so much suffered because of illogical Serbian people during the 90’s. Should be: …nations that have so much suffered because of illogical Serbian politics during the 90’s.
This omission was not in any case intention to generalize Serbian nation for misdeeds done in its behalf.
Thanks for understanding.

How the Albanians will feel like if the Greek minority which is the majority in certain southern parts of Albania will decide to have their own independence?
I do not that any Albanian will support this,I am sure that they will not like their beloved country to be devided.
So, why you are surprised when Serbia is so adamant against the Kossovo independence.
Don't get me wrong I am not saying that this should happen, meaning the Greeks in Albania.

Albanians here sound quite desperate.
maybe you should just hang back and relax, and watch real politics go the legal way.

but, the remark that "there was some lying" ... are more than amusing.

“Lavrov reiterated that Russia was defending fundamental European and democratic principles by insisting on the preservation of Serbia’s territorial integrity and demanding maximum rights for Serbs in Kosovo with full protection of churches and monasteries,” Drašković said.

01. People are MORE IMPORTANT than stone old monasteries. I would rather protect an Albanian woman than 10 Orthodox Serb monasteries.

02. If Russia is so keen to the idea of territorial integriyu, why it continues to occupy part of Moldova (Transnistria) and Georgia (Abkhazia, South Ossetia) with its troops?

Hey nikshala!

While we're at it. . .let's correct another mistake, shall we?

How about revoking the Treaty of London that saw the creation of the Albanian state in 1913. Let's instead give the land to the Serbs and Greeks that routed the Ottomans from Albania.

What do you think, champ?

So nikshala Kosovo should go back to the Turks? is that what you are suggesting?


Albania did not exist as a nation before Serbia, and may I REMIND you that the Ottoman empire (Turks) came to the Balkans to colonize!!

They invaded the Serbian Kingdom (whose capital was in Kosovo) The Serbs fought back but were overwhelmed and occupied for 500 YEARS. THAT IS SUFFERING!


So your arguments about ("Correcting mistakes from 1912") are stupid and poor.


Kosovo is Serbian land, the only and I mean the ONLY thing Albanians have (in Kosovo) are better demographics thanks in part to TITO and to Albanian ethnic cleansing of Serbs over decades.

thank you

"“the Russian desire to defend territorial integrity of UN members, with…UN Charter” isn’t satisfactory convincing; since, it is accurately Russia itself who is with both legs involved in several regions of the former soviet republics with obstructions of anything that aspires normality there."

All powers play politics. However, in the case of Moldova, it is again the US and the "West" that is playing the spoiler. Twice, Russia has been on the verge of mediating a reconciliation between Moldova and Transdniester. The first time, the US pressured the Moldovan president to cancel signing an agreement that would have reunified Moldova at the last moment, just as Puting was about to land in Chisinau for the signing. Now there is talk again that a new deal is in the offing, but Vladimir Socor, a well-known Russophobe was somehow able to get a copy of the proposed agreement, and leaked it to the "West". Now the US is again scrambling to derail this agreement. Why? Because it would make Moldova a neutral nation, with Russian troops remaining in Transniester as guarantors for some years down the road. The US would then lose its hopes to get its paws on Moldova, and would have lose the pretext of Russian troops in Moldova to not sign the CFE treaty. So, despite the fact that Russia is trying to mediate an accord that would reunify Moldova in an acceptable formula for both parties in the conflict, the US is doing is best to torpedo the effort for geopolitical games.
Russia is behaving much more responsibly than the US, by trying to find solutions acceptable to all parties. The US on the other hand, supports the radical elements in Kosovo, Georgia and Moldova, frustrating all efforts of compromise by leading these simpletons to believe that they can obtain all their demands without need for compromise.

I'd like to say that KOSOVARS will never ever live under serbia's regime ,regime that people suffered for centuries , now t's time for big powers to realize that they did mistake in 1913.If they haven't done this mistake before there wouldn't be a war,massacre,etc
KOSOVO WILL BECOME NEW STATE. LONG LIVE KOSOVO ,LONG LIVE ALBANIA, LONG LIVE ALBANIANS

Split Kosovo on two (north to the Serbs and the rest to Albainans) and you will solve the problem. This is the only win-win situation for both!! So, if Russia is to draft a resolution then let it propose partition of Kosovo and Putin will be nominated for the Nobel`s prize believe me!!!!!

So much for Draskovic's propaganda about the Russian resolution.
Lavrov himself said that Russia is not proposing any resolution at all.
Its so nice to see Contradictions like this between the Serb leaders and the Russian politicians.
Serbs, in one way you ask to join NATO and EU and in the other way you want Russia's help. Do you think that Russia will help you knowing the fact that you want to join Russia's enemies?
DO you realize that you can select one side only because you will be left alone by two sides?
Its nice to see this confusion between Serb and russian leaders.

In nikshala's defense, Albania did exist before Serbia. However it wasn't located in Europe. If you look on a map of the Greek Empire at the time of Alexander you can see Albania in the Near East. How the country ended up appearing in the west 2200 years later is beyond me.

I think one of my fundamental problems with this is that it leads to the realization of a greater Albania. My problems with this are many.

1. albania is the main hub for organized crime and the drug trade in Europe.

2. albania is the main hub for human trafficing, in other words slavery, in Europe.

3. The KLA has been a known training ground for Taliban fighters. I think you have to be concerned with Europeon security with that resume.

4. I honestly think the albanians in Kosovo would destroy the monestaries (which are protected monuments) and threaten an ethnic clensing against not just the Serbs but any non-muslim residents of the region.

It has gone that way in the past and I think it would be worse, not better, if Kosovo had independance. I think dividing the land in half is viable, I also think a good solution is autonomy as a state in Serbia.

It appears to be that or maybe the Serbs can muster the people who were forced out and move them back in, that and some extra migration could make it 65/35 or 60/40 then this arguemnet is moot.

Ninja,

Well now that you guys want to be a big responsible coutnry of your own... you can start by being Politically Correct like the rest of us and start admitting what you truly are... If you were born in Kosovo/Serbia then your are (Kosovo Serbian) or or (Albanian Serbian) just like I am (German American) funny how that works...

Do you really think all that war
and talks between UN&US has done
4 Kosovo's dependency will be let go 4 nothing? No way back will be 4 Kosovo. Also Russian
if they wanted to stay on the site of SRB they could done it
When UN bombarded Beograd. Think about it.

I would suggets that the best option remains that continued talks on finding a formula that all can agree on is the best possible way in which all the peoples of Serbia can progress.

Needless to say my continued mantra of win-win looks all the more likely as the days, weeks and months have passed.

For those who are of equal mind on the way forward I would be interested in direct discussions;

principuk@hotmail.co.uk

Partition of the Serbian state will just continue with the hatred - in fact is more likely to further distance the opportunity for reconciliation that is much required and desreved of all the peoples of Serbia.

As far as I know, Russia's position till now was an agreement between two parts: albanians and serbs. Does that mean that if albanians will not agree with the plan from them proposed then russians will reject it? What if serbs will agree and albanians not? Will they begin on supporting albanians?

I don't think that anybody will stop the Kosova to be independent. It may be some delays but in the end the people of Kosova will decide. An Albanian sentence says: "It may be detention but it has no salvation" that means the process may be delayed many times but Kosova will be independent, anyway.

It’s more then 90% Albanians in Kosovo does that count for something.
Russia wants to make a meal out of Kosovo. I blame Mr Ahtisari for not slipping a check inside the proposal letters when it was sent out to Russia. It could have made life a lot easier for everyone; perhaps he was not aware of Russian “democratic governmental policies”.
If Russians were experts in running a country, they wouldn’t have so many problems solving their own issues especially in Chechnya. Russia has nothing positive to demonstrate to the world with reference to a successively government.

It looks like Russia just like Serbia is running out of options regarding Kosovo. Mr Drashkovic does that mean that Mr Lavrov told you that Russia will not veto the resolution based on Ahtissari's plan put forward by the west countries?? We've seen a lot of options and suggestions coming from Serbia that Kosovo should gain Autonomy (Highest ever), a state within Serbia's borders, partition, and what not.But the west has been so determined and that is proving that Kosovo must be independent to be able to move forward to the future.
After all this years of status quo and unsureness's Kosovo Albanians never been so close to win what they deserve they own state, and serbs never been so close not to have Kosovo as an excuses for their nationalistic minds!!!
Kosovo Independence will be a deserved gift for Kosovars that suffered for a century under serbian regime.
Kosovo Independence will be a gift for any upcoming Serbian Government to look forward to EU and a stable Serbia!

cheers

P.S princip its a wasting time to discuss with you whatever subject regarding Kosovo, I think you just like your leader T.Nikoliq should give up politics and your "analysis" once Kosovo becomes Independent and do whatever you do in your life.

Arlind you are right. About Lavrov or Russians in general I can not say anything anymore because B92 censures my my comments moderate. It starts to be a forum where people do not get the same chance to be heard.

Rovena, good point there.. lets say Russia comes up with a proposal, and we Albanians reject it, will they still support it or caught on lie?

More talks will produce nothing. Kosovo is like a cancer. The faster you cut off the diseased area, the faster you can resume a normal life. The only real solution is to divide Kosovo.

Princip,

I carefully read your commment; it sounds good, if these talks ocurred in 1992/3 or latest '95 in order to find a suitable solution without separation, eg. confederation Serbia-Kosova-Montenegro, because not even as a equal republic in the federation with Milosevic would not satisfy K/Albanians after all what was done to them during the 89-91 not even to discuss 92-99.
After all, I think it is to late to find a solution other than indpendence. What is more important, Kosova and Serbia, but also Montenegro, Albania and Macedonia should move forward in other aspects - economical, prefarably entering EU with a rappid procedure (I read these days that Kosovo will be considered for such a thing after the independence). We can deal with politics all life long but life is too short for solving problems that are not solved for ceturies...

The Russians have been very clear all along and just if anyone needs a reminder I suggest they read this previous B92 report with Aleksandar Alekseyev, Russian Ambassador to Serbia, in December to qoute;

"I must stress that the Kosovo problem must be solved in line with the international law, with the principles of European security, and the UN Security Council resolution 1244. And, Kosovo temporary institutions prime minister Agim Ceku was briefed about this position in detail during his recent visit to Moscow."

http://www.b92.net/eng/insight/tvshows.php?yyyy=2006&mm=12&nav_id=38393

When i say reflect, i mean it literally. Your Slavic brothers didn't want to live with you, who shared common cultural, religious and historical values so why do you expect Kosovar Albanians to live with you?

Think for the sake of the majority of Serbians who are being dragged with this idiotic government who raises false hops only to leave a deep disillusion on the people.
I pity those who support the stance of the Serbian government but i genuinely feel sorry for those who have been swept by the same brush and have no say over anything really not just the Kosovan issue.
Only light minded people would use the historical card specially taking into account the genocides commited by them on their people. This is Europe is not Africa nor Russia , therefore with the current Serbian government stanc the inevitable will happen, there was the time when you were able to lie and get it your own way but no more It stopped once and for all, Kosovars are able to speak for themselves now and rightfully have claimed what has been theirs.

"Rovena, good point there.. lets say Russia comes up with a proposal, and we Albanians reject it, will they still support it or caught on lie?
(Pejon07, Monday, 23 April, 2007, 14:17)"

Do you guys realize what you're writing???

It's not the Serbs, but albaninas who are trying to steal land illegally.

This is brilliant! Russia is about to prove to the world that the west is not at all concerned with the rule of law, territory integrity of sovereign states or any other nuisance that might get in the way of their quest for world dominance. The US is trying to bribe Russia but can't. Russia is debt free, but the US is the largest debtor nation in the world so what does Russia need from the west? Nothing! If Russia & allies (China, India, etc) step up to the plate, it's game over: No Kosovo independence, Multipolar world, and finally some stability. Joe; I feel your pain, but B92 has censured my comments many times, I know you have a victim mentality but we are all big boys now.

Princip and Rovenna are right. It seems a stable solution will have to be found between both proposal - even though I don't know what the Russian counterproposal is. Also, let's not throw out the Ahtisaari Plan entirely. There are many provisions there that give generous offers to the Serbs and the SPC. If the true spirit of compromise is in the air to guarantee an internationally-binding resolution, then lets' see both sides of the issue (Washington and Moscow) find common ground.

Moscow has no rights to submit the resolution because they didn't spend an Dollar or Euro inn kosovo issue.
US and EU are advocates of Kosova independence:)

No matter how much I want to restrain myself in commenting, in the end prevails the wish to put down my remarks on agendas presented here.
First of all, I think that Mr. Draskovic’s statement regarding “the Russian desire to defend territorial integrity of UN members, with…UN Charter” isn’t satisfactory convincing; since, it is accurately Russia itself who is with both legs involved in several regions of the former soviet republics with obstructions of anything that aspires normality there. So, Mr. Draskovic this isn’t (or it shouldn’t be) serious stance of a politician who pretend to tackle such a problem as Kosova/o.
One another remark; the need of reconciliation of entire Serbian population towards whom? In my opinion Serbian people should set to build strategy first of all in finding the way and be very careful on asserting its request for forgiveness towards the nations that have so much suffered because of illogical Serbian people during 90’s.

“Lavrov reiterated that Russia was defending fundamental European and democratic principles by insisting on the preservation of Serbia’s territorial integrity and demanding maximum rights for Serbs in Kosovo with full protection of churches and monasteries,” Drašković said

This is so funny, Russia is defending fundamental European and democratic principles. Unbelivable!!! How low Mr. Drašković can go to mislead his nation? I don't think we have seen his bottom yet but we will in due course.

I just think that someone is not telling the truth (better say someon is lying), of whatever took place in that meeting. This is too good to be true, Russia is defending European values, again unbelivable!!!

And before you all start lamenting and crying how bad US and its people are as some do here on daily basis please read the following article on b92 and enlighten yourself a little bit

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2007&mm=04&dd=23&nav_category=11&nav_id=243330

On the other hand Serbia has managed to strip Kosova of all its educational system in less than a year during 90's. It had closed University of Prishtina, and every school of higher education in Albanian language and then some here wonder why Kosova should become independent!!!

I guess anyone can post here weather they have a point or just want to send nationalistic ravings out over the internet. As a non-serb, non-albanian US citizen I have to say that this is completely insane. There is no grounds for independance here. You can't revolt by birth and take land from a sovereign state. Breading the population to take over is the same as if you marched in an army and set up shop.

This goes against everything the United Nations stands for. I can't believe my goverment would be a party to this but with a president like Bush nothings suprises me anymore.

Sorry to all the Ethnic Abanians out there but you're in the wrong. You're plans to steal land from Serbia, Macedonia, Greece, and Montenegro to form a greater albania is similar to Hitlers ideas and plans for Germany in the 1930's hopefully with a Russian, Chinese veto the rest of the world will see this and put the matter to bed once and for all.

Independence is not stealing or land grab.

The west is correcting its mistake for giving away Kosovo territory to Serbia in 1912 afte the occupition, with an overwhelmengly majority albanian population.

I mean Turks ruled kosovo longer than serbs!!

These historical claims are a joke.

The time of colonies is over.

Ii would like to make a correction in the last phrase on my previous comment. Instead …..nations that have so much suffered because of illogical Serbian people during the 90’s. Should be: …nations that have so much suffered because of illogical Serbian politics during the 90’s.
This omission was not in any case intention to generalize Serbian nation for misdeeds done in its behalf.
Thanks for understanding.

How the Albanians will feel like if the Greek minority which is the majority in certain southern parts of Albania will decide to have their own independence?
I do not that any Albanian will support this,I am sure that they will not like their beloved country to be devided.
So, why you are surprised when Serbia is so adamant against the Kossovo independence.
Don't get me wrong I am not saying that this should happen, meaning the Greeks in Albania.

Albanians here sound quite desperate.
maybe you should just hang back and relax, and watch real politics go the legal way.

but, the remark that "there was some lying" ... are more than amusing.

“Lavrov reiterated that Russia was defending fundamental European and democratic principles by insisting on the preservation of Serbia’s territorial integrity and demanding maximum rights for Serbs in Kosovo with full protection of churches and monasteries,” Drašković said.

01. People are MORE IMPORTANT than stone old monasteries. I would rather protect an Albanian woman than 10 Orthodox Serb monasteries.

02. If Russia is so keen to the idea of territorial integriyu, why it continues to occupy part of Moldova (Transnistria) and Georgia (Abkhazia, South Ossetia) with its troops?

Hey nikshala!

While we're at it. . .let's correct another mistake, shall we?

How about revoking the Treaty of London that saw the creation of the Albanian state in 1913. Let's instead give the land to the Serbs and Greeks that routed the Ottomans from Albania.

What do you think, champ?

So nikshala Kosovo should go back to the Turks? is that what you are suggesting?


Albania did not exist as a nation before Serbia, and may I REMIND you that the Ottoman empire (Turks) came to the Balkans to colonize!!

They invaded the Serbian Kingdom (whose capital was in Kosovo) The Serbs fought back but were overwhelmed and occupied for 500 YEARS. THAT IS SUFFERING!


So your arguments about ("Correcting mistakes from 1912") are stupid and poor.


Kosovo is Serbian land, the only and I mean the ONLY thing Albanians have (in Kosovo) are better demographics thanks in part to TITO and to Albanian ethnic cleansing of Serbs over decades.

thank you

"“the Russian desire to defend territorial integrity of UN members, with…UN Charter” isn’t satisfactory convincing; since, it is accurately Russia itself who is with both legs involved in several regions of the former soviet republics with obstructions of anything that aspires normality there."

All powers play politics. However, in the case of Moldova, it is again the US and the "West" that is playing the spoiler. Twice, Russia has been on the verge of mediating a reconciliation between Moldova and Transdniester. The first time, the US pressured the Moldovan president to cancel signing an agreement that would have reunified Moldova at the last moment, just as Puting was about to land in Chisinau for the signing. Now there is talk again that a new deal is in the offing, but Vladimir Socor, a well-known Russophobe was somehow able to get a copy of the proposed agreement, and leaked it to the "West". Now the US is again scrambling to derail this agreement. Why? Because it would make Moldova a neutral nation, with Russian troops remaining in Transniester as guarantors for some years down the road. The US would then lose its hopes to get its paws on Moldova, and would have lose the pretext of Russian troops in Moldova to not sign the CFE treaty. So, despite the fact that Russia is trying to mediate an accord that would reunify Moldova in an acceptable formula for both parties in the conflict, the US is doing is best to torpedo the effort for geopolitical games.
Russia is behaving much more responsibly than the US, by trying to find solutions acceptable to all parties. The US on the other hand, supports the radical elements in Kosovo, Georgia and Moldova, frustrating all efforts of compromise by leading these simpletons to believe that they can obtain all their demands without need for compromise.

I'd like to say that KOSOVARS will never ever live under serbia's regime ,regime that people suffered for centuries , now t's time for big powers to realize that they did mistake in 1913.If they haven't done this mistake before there wouldn't be a war,massacre,etc
KOSOVO WILL BECOME NEW STATE. LONG LIVE KOSOVO ,LONG LIVE ALBANIA, LONG LIVE ALBANIANS

Split Kosovo on two (north to the Serbs and the rest to Albainans) and you will solve the problem. This is the only win-win situation for both!! So, if Russia is to draft a resolution then let it propose partition of Kosovo and Putin will be nominated for the Nobel`s prize believe me!!!!!

So much for Draskovic's propaganda about the Russian resolution.
Lavrov himself said that Russia is not proposing any resolution at all.
Its so nice to see Contradictions like this between the Serb leaders and the Russian politicians.
Serbs, in one way you ask to join NATO and EU and in the other way you want Russia's help. Do you think that Russia will help you knowing the fact that you want to join Russia's enemies?
DO you realize that you can select one side only because you will be left alone by two sides?
Its nice to see this confusion between Serb and russian leaders.

In nikshala's defense, Albania did exist before Serbia. However it wasn't located in Europe. If you look on a map of the Greek Empire at the time of Alexander you can see Albania in the Near East. How the country ended up appearing in the west 2200 years later is beyond me.

I think one of my fundamental problems with this is that it leads to the realization of a greater Albania. My problems with this are many.

1. albania is the main hub for organized crime and the drug trade in Europe.

2. albania is the main hub for human trafficing, in other words slavery, in Europe.

3. The KLA has been a known training ground for Taliban fighters. I think you have to be concerned with Europeon security with that resume.

4. I honestly think the albanians in Kosovo would destroy the monestaries (which are protected monuments) and threaten an ethnic clensing against not just the Serbs but any non-muslim residents of the region.

It has gone that way in the past and I think it would be worse, not better, if Kosovo had independance. I think dividing the land in half is viable, I also think a good solution is autonomy as a state in Serbia.

It appears to be that or maybe the Serbs can muster the people who were forced out and move them back in, that and some extra migration could make it 65/35 or 60/40 then this arguemnet is moot.

Ninja,

Well now that you guys want to be a big responsible coutnry of your own... you can start by being Politically Correct like the rest of us and start admitting what you truly are... If you were born in Kosovo/Serbia then your are (Kosovo Serbian) or or (Albanian Serbian) just like I am (German American) funny how that works...

Do you really think all that war
and talks between UN&US has done
4 Kosovo's dependency will be let go 4 nothing? No way back will be 4 Kosovo. Also Russian
if they wanted to stay on the site of SRB they could done it
When UN bombarded Beograd. Think about it.