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Monday, 16.04.2007.

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Koštunica: Real Kosovo talks yet to begin

Serbia's prime minister repeated Monday a UN fact-finding mission to Kosovo would lead to “real talks”.

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George - USA

pre 17 godina

To all the commentary’s that are attacking Ahmet comment of “Real talks will restart, what a joke. Koshtunica took part in these talks for over year and half and what was that?” What I remember from read B92 that after the first round of talks the Albanians where negotiating and the Serbs refused to negotiate and budge on their domains. So known what changed and why does Koshtunica all the sudden wants to negotiate, while for the last year and a half her refused to budge on their domains ????

Nick

pre 17 godina

Taras,

Read the most recent statement from Nick Burns. It seems someone will indeed care, and not just someone but the worlds only superpower and its allies.

Your army and your radicals do not concern us.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

I am glad that I managed to wake up everybody from deep sleep.Let me go in order:
Zoran- Yes we did compromise by givin serb minorities more rights and prevledges than you could give your minorties in serbia proper.
BRIAN- What serbia wants cannot get it, because they lost that right since 1999.
Scandinavian- You are wrong body, because Fact finding delgation will come to Kosova and have a chat with PISG and UNMIK officials inluding serb politicians, and that is all. They have no need to go on the field because they have first hand information on that from UNMIK officials.
John- There is nothing left to talk about. Albanians have tried to talk for centuries to no avail. Remeber Ibrahim Rugova in 1980 talked to Milosheviq but that talk did not get things better for us but instead more opression and killing. We are done talking.
King Lazar- Kosovar Albanians were expelled from Kosova with guns pointed in their heads, remember that one.
Taras- I am dying to see that day again when serbian army will march in Kosova, not in your lifetime, never again.If I left anybody out I will respond later.

Afrim Hoxha

pre 17 godina

Real talks.... yeh right real talks, keep dreaming Kostunica.
Serbs are so proud of themselves and feel that are special people but I cant believe they have as primeminister someone who still daydreams and is getting ready to get one more term as primeminister.
Give up serbs, Kosova is gone, its independent, its not yours anymore, you cant do whatever you want in it anymore, its a free place after all.
We the albanians do not want to get stuck with people of myths, so therefore we will be independent. We do not want to be a part of an arrogant country like Serbia who thinks that everyone else has to follow international laws except Serbia itself.
Like it or not, Kosova is an independent place and you have no power to do anything. This is the truth, I know it hurts you so bad but thats good because you deserve it.
Thanks to USA for the great help given to ALbanians. Also, thanks to Russia for not supporting Serbia and leaving it to hope in Slovakia and... some african countries, hahahaha. Can you imagine Russia leaving you in the hands of some african countries... This is unimaginable but yet true.

Agim Elshani

pre 17 godina

If i remeber correctly the last time Kai Eide was tasked to do a report on Kosova, the said report was not favorble for serb. Now some officials are hopping that KAI will lead o restart new negotiations, WOW, this is the craziest thing I have ever heard.

Taras

pre 17 godina

Actually, the real joke here is how the albanians are still deluded enough to imagine that independence is around the corner.

It's now mid-April and you are further away than ever. Empty western promises don't pay the rent and they don't provide employment for you, do they?

Here is what is going to happen.

There will be no UNSC resolution. Which means that it defaults back to UN Resolution 1244.

Albanians will declare independence unilaterally and no-one will care.

UNMIK will leave and when you start killing Serbs and burning churches the Serbian army will march back in with NATOs partnership for peace blessing and thing will get better.

It is over. The delusion you and your fellow immigrants have been labouring under for the last few years is at an end.

You just don't get it.

lowe

pre 17 godina

Ahmet Isufi,

What Kostunica was saying is that Ahtisaari was not a genuinely impartial mediator. He was pro-Albanian all along. An impartial mediator will not take sides.

Pijetro

pre 17 godina

Ahmet wrote:
"Viena(you sebs called Bec, sorry guys no offense)."

I couldn't help but chuckle at this.

No offence taken Ahmet .

But firstly, it's spelt "Vienna", not Viena..And the fact that the Serbs, and not the "Sebs" call it "Bec", is the exact same reason the Austrians' old Hungarian partners call it the same name...

Funny how Hungarians call it the same name. Perhaps you can mention that on THEIR forums.

"Koshtunica took part in these talks for over year and half and what was that?"

I also find this ironic..

Every day i read the news, and think that independence is just around the corner. It's been around the corner every day for the past eight years..In fact, you've been around every corner of the same building, you don't realize that YOU'VE JUST MADE A FULL CIRCLE!!! >_

King Lazar Returns

pre 17 godina

Ahmet, Serbs negociated with a gun pointed on their heads.

You call that negociations?

I hope this time, there will be no time limit and no external forces to interfere in the negociations.

Welcome to democracy.

Jovan

pre 17 godina

hey Ahmet,...what is so wrong in calling Vienna Beč? it is the accepted name for that city in almost all southern-slav languages, what is your problem with that?

on the contrary, I never said anything about the childish attempts of showing disrespect towards the Serbs by writing Milošević with a q at the end of his name...

that shows, that most Albanians here must be still very young, not really grown up, and then everything that comes from Serbia, oh, excuse me Sibiria of course, is "racist", "dirty tricks" and of course fabricated by the "serbian secret service" ...correct me if I am wrong...but that behavioural pattern is just ...yeah..childish!

John

pre 17 godina

Ahmet Isufi, what exactly are you afraid of with TALKS? If these talks will save lives, then we should embrace them. Its always the ones who refuse to talk that worry me. They seem to do there talking not at the negotiating table, but behind an AK-47.

1 year of talks over disputed land is nothing man. What planet are you living on?

Princip, UK

pre 17 godina

Ahmet,

Could you enlighten us on your definition of real talks???

For your information Ahtisaari himself admitted that he never allowed any discussion on any alternatives - it's is in itself an admission that no real talks have ever taken place. This is clear cut how can you deceide on the best solution when you have predetermind the solution and do not even consider the alternatives????

The reality hurts but it is time for real talks if this is to be resolved in a way that is sustainable and peaceful! All the peopels of Serbia deserve peace and hope for the future!

Scandinavia

pre 17 godina

Ahmed. You will be very surprised when talks will start again after summer. Why ? Because all the UNSC memberss will be surprised when they will visit all these Serbian enclaves spread over Kosovo with suffering, poor people that have never done anything wrong. Only wanted to live in peace. We will see, Ahmed... To be continued, I promise you.

Zoran

pre 17 godina

There were no real negotiations because the Albanian side did not want to negotiate! They have been given a blank check from the West so why negotiate? What's needed is a compromise where both sides give something up. Albanians & Serbs can and have lived together for centuries. They can do it again, but first Albanians have to give up on this unGodly scheme for Serbian land! Do you remember that Albanians fought together with the Serbs on the field of blackbirds against the Turks?

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

Real talks will restart, what a joke. Koshtunica took part in these talks for over year and half and what was that? He is disrespecting his own self, since he was the one that took part in negotiations in Viena(you sebs called Bec, sorry guys no offense). What a cracker.

Brian

pre 17 godina

Right now the only thing on the table is what the Albanians want. Now it is time to discuss what Serbia wants and has a right to.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

Real talks will restart, what a joke. Koshtunica took part in these talks for over year and half and what was that? He is disrespecting his own self, since he was the one that took part in negotiations in Viena(you sebs called Bec, sorry guys no offense). What a cracker.

Zoran

pre 17 godina

There were no real negotiations because the Albanian side did not want to negotiate! They have been given a blank check from the West so why negotiate? What's needed is a compromise where both sides give something up. Albanians & Serbs can and have lived together for centuries. They can do it again, but first Albanians have to give up on this unGodly scheme for Serbian land! Do you remember that Albanians fought together with the Serbs on the field of blackbirds against the Turks?

Brian

pre 17 godina

Right now the only thing on the table is what the Albanians want. Now it is time to discuss what Serbia wants and has a right to.

Scandinavia

pre 17 godina

Ahmed. You will be very surprised when talks will start again after summer. Why ? Because all the UNSC memberss will be surprised when they will visit all these Serbian enclaves spread over Kosovo with suffering, poor people that have never done anything wrong. Only wanted to live in peace. We will see, Ahmed... To be continued, I promise you.

Princip, UK

pre 17 godina

Ahmet,

Could you enlighten us on your definition of real talks???

For your information Ahtisaari himself admitted that he never allowed any discussion on any alternatives - it's is in itself an admission that no real talks have ever taken place. This is clear cut how can you deceide on the best solution when you have predetermind the solution and do not even consider the alternatives????

The reality hurts but it is time for real talks if this is to be resolved in a way that is sustainable and peaceful! All the peopels of Serbia deserve peace and hope for the future!

John

pre 17 godina

Ahmet Isufi, what exactly are you afraid of with TALKS? If these talks will save lives, then we should embrace them. Its always the ones who refuse to talk that worry me. They seem to do there talking not at the negotiating table, but behind an AK-47.

1 year of talks over disputed land is nothing man. What planet are you living on?

Jovan

pre 17 godina

hey Ahmet,...what is so wrong in calling Vienna Beč? it is the accepted name for that city in almost all southern-slav languages, what is your problem with that?

on the contrary, I never said anything about the childish attempts of showing disrespect towards the Serbs by writing Milošević with a q at the end of his name...

that shows, that most Albanians here must be still very young, not really grown up, and then everything that comes from Serbia, oh, excuse me Sibiria of course, is "racist", "dirty tricks" and of course fabricated by the "serbian secret service" ...correct me if I am wrong...but that behavioural pattern is just ...yeah..childish!

Pijetro

pre 17 godina

Ahmet wrote:
"Viena(you sebs called Bec, sorry guys no offense)."

I couldn't help but chuckle at this.

No offence taken Ahmet .

But firstly, it's spelt "Vienna", not Viena..And the fact that the Serbs, and not the "Sebs" call it "Bec", is the exact same reason the Austrians' old Hungarian partners call it the same name...

Funny how Hungarians call it the same name. Perhaps you can mention that on THEIR forums.

"Koshtunica took part in these talks for over year and half and what was that?"

I also find this ironic..

Every day i read the news, and think that independence is just around the corner. It's been around the corner every day for the past eight years..In fact, you've been around every corner of the same building, you don't realize that YOU'VE JUST MADE A FULL CIRCLE!!! >_

King Lazar Returns

pre 17 godina

Ahmet, Serbs negociated with a gun pointed on their heads.

You call that negociations?

I hope this time, there will be no time limit and no external forces to interfere in the negociations.

Welcome to democracy.

lowe

pre 17 godina

Ahmet Isufi,

What Kostunica was saying is that Ahtisaari was not a genuinely impartial mediator. He was pro-Albanian all along. An impartial mediator will not take sides.

Taras

pre 17 godina

Actually, the real joke here is how the albanians are still deluded enough to imagine that independence is around the corner.

It's now mid-April and you are further away than ever. Empty western promises don't pay the rent and they don't provide employment for you, do they?

Here is what is going to happen.

There will be no UNSC resolution. Which means that it defaults back to UN Resolution 1244.

Albanians will declare independence unilaterally and no-one will care.

UNMIK will leave and when you start killing Serbs and burning churches the Serbian army will march back in with NATOs partnership for peace blessing and thing will get better.

It is over. The delusion you and your fellow immigrants have been labouring under for the last few years is at an end.

You just don't get it.

Agim Elshani

pre 17 godina

If i remeber correctly the last time Kai Eide was tasked to do a report on Kosova, the said report was not favorble for serb. Now some officials are hopping that KAI will lead o restart new negotiations, WOW, this is the craziest thing I have ever heard.

Afrim Hoxha

pre 17 godina

Real talks.... yeh right real talks, keep dreaming Kostunica.
Serbs are so proud of themselves and feel that are special people but I cant believe they have as primeminister someone who still daydreams and is getting ready to get one more term as primeminister.
Give up serbs, Kosova is gone, its independent, its not yours anymore, you cant do whatever you want in it anymore, its a free place after all.
We the albanians do not want to get stuck with people of myths, so therefore we will be independent. We do not want to be a part of an arrogant country like Serbia who thinks that everyone else has to follow international laws except Serbia itself.
Like it or not, Kosova is an independent place and you have no power to do anything. This is the truth, I know it hurts you so bad but thats good because you deserve it.
Thanks to USA for the great help given to ALbanians. Also, thanks to Russia for not supporting Serbia and leaving it to hope in Slovakia and... some african countries, hahahaha. Can you imagine Russia leaving you in the hands of some african countries... This is unimaginable but yet true.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

I am glad that I managed to wake up everybody from deep sleep.Let me go in order:
Zoran- Yes we did compromise by givin serb minorities more rights and prevledges than you could give your minorties in serbia proper.
BRIAN- What serbia wants cannot get it, because they lost that right since 1999.
Scandinavian- You are wrong body, because Fact finding delgation will come to Kosova and have a chat with PISG and UNMIK officials inluding serb politicians, and that is all. They have no need to go on the field because they have first hand information on that from UNMIK officials.
John- There is nothing left to talk about. Albanians have tried to talk for centuries to no avail. Remeber Ibrahim Rugova in 1980 talked to Milosheviq but that talk did not get things better for us but instead more opression and killing. We are done talking.
King Lazar- Kosovar Albanians were expelled from Kosova with guns pointed in their heads, remember that one.
Taras- I am dying to see that day again when serbian army will march in Kosova, not in your lifetime, never again.If I left anybody out I will respond later.

Nick

pre 17 godina

Taras,

Read the most recent statement from Nick Burns. It seems someone will indeed care, and not just someone but the worlds only superpower and its allies.

Your army and your radicals do not concern us.

George - USA

pre 17 godina

To all the commentary’s that are attacking Ahmet comment of “Real talks will restart, what a joke. Koshtunica took part in these talks for over year and half and what was that?” What I remember from read B92 that after the first round of talks the Albanians where negotiating and the Serbs refused to negotiate and budge on their domains. So known what changed and why does Koshtunica all the sudden wants to negotiate, while for the last year and a half her refused to budge on their domains ????

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

Real talks will restart, what a joke. Koshtunica took part in these talks for over year and half and what was that? He is disrespecting his own self, since he was the one that took part in negotiations in Viena(you sebs called Bec, sorry guys no offense). What a cracker.

Zoran

pre 17 godina

There were no real negotiations because the Albanian side did not want to negotiate! They have been given a blank check from the West so why negotiate? What's needed is a compromise where both sides give something up. Albanians & Serbs can and have lived together for centuries. They can do it again, but first Albanians have to give up on this unGodly scheme for Serbian land! Do you remember that Albanians fought together with the Serbs on the field of blackbirds against the Turks?

Brian

pre 17 godina

Right now the only thing on the table is what the Albanians want. Now it is time to discuss what Serbia wants and has a right to.

Scandinavia

pre 17 godina

Ahmed. You will be very surprised when talks will start again after summer. Why ? Because all the UNSC memberss will be surprised when they will visit all these Serbian enclaves spread over Kosovo with suffering, poor people that have never done anything wrong. Only wanted to live in peace. We will see, Ahmed... To be continued, I promise you.

Princip, UK

pre 17 godina

Ahmet,

Could you enlighten us on your definition of real talks???

For your information Ahtisaari himself admitted that he never allowed any discussion on any alternatives - it's is in itself an admission that no real talks have ever taken place. This is clear cut how can you deceide on the best solution when you have predetermind the solution and do not even consider the alternatives????

The reality hurts but it is time for real talks if this is to be resolved in a way that is sustainable and peaceful! All the peopels of Serbia deserve peace and hope for the future!

John

pre 17 godina

Ahmet Isufi, what exactly are you afraid of with TALKS? If these talks will save lives, then we should embrace them. Its always the ones who refuse to talk that worry me. They seem to do there talking not at the negotiating table, but behind an AK-47.

1 year of talks over disputed land is nothing man. What planet are you living on?

Jovan

pre 17 godina

hey Ahmet,...what is so wrong in calling Vienna Beč? it is the accepted name for that city in almost all southern-slav languages, what is your problem with that?

on the contrary, I never said anything about the childish attempts of showing disrespect towards the Serbs by writing Milošević with a q at the end of his name...

that shows, that most Albanians here must be still very young, not really grown up, and then everything that comes from Serbia, oh, excuse me Sibiria of course, is "racist", "dirty tricks" and of course fabricated by the "serbian secret service" ...correct me if I am wrong...but that behavioural pattern is just ...yeah..childish!

Pijetro

pre 17 godina

Ahmet wrote:
"Viena(you sebs called Bec, sorry guys no offense)."

I couldn't help but chuckle at this.

No offence taken Ahmet .

But firstly, it's spelt "Vienna", not Viena..And the fact that the Serbs, and not the "Sebs" call it "Bec", is the exact same reason the Austrians' old Hungarian partners call it the same name...

Funny how Hungarians call it the same name. Perhaps you can mention that on THEIR forums.

"Koshtunica took part in these talks for over year and half and what was that?"

I also find this ironic..

Every day i read the news, and think that independence is just around the corner. It's been around the corner every day for the past eight years..In fact, you've been around every corner of the same building, you don't realize that YOU'VE JUST MADE A FULL CIRCLE!!! >_

King Lazar Returns

pre 17 godina

Ahmet, Serbs negociated with a gun pointed on their heads.

You call that negociations?

I hope this time, there will be no time limit and no external forces to interfere in the negociations.

Welcome to democracy.

lowe

pre 17 godina

Ahmet Isufi,

What Kostunica was saying is that Ahtisaari was not a genuinely impartial mediator. He was pro-Albanian all along. An impartial mediator will not take sides.

Taras

pre 17 godina

Actually, the real joke here is how the albanians are still deluded enough to imagine that independence is around the corner.

It's now mid-April and you are further away than ever. Empty western promises don't pay the rent and they don't provide employment for you, do they?

Here is what is going to happen.

There will be no UNSC resolution. Which means that it defaults back to UN Resolution 1244.

Albanians will declare independence unilaterally and no-one will care.

UNMIK will leave and when you start killing Serbs and burning churches the Serbian army will march back in with NATOs partnership for peace blessing and thing will get better.

It is over. The delusion you and your fellow immigrants have been labouring under for the last few years is at an end.

You just don't get it.

Agim Elshani

pre 17 godina

If i remeber correctly the last time Kai Eide was tasked to do a report on Kosova, the said report was not favorble for serb. Now some officials are hopping that KAI will lead o restart new negotiations, WOW, this is the craziest thing I have ever heard.

Afrim Hoxha

pre 17 godina

Real talks.... yeh right real talks, keep dreaming Kostunica.
Serbs are so proud of themselves and feel that are special people but I cant believe they have as primeminister someone who still daydreams and is getting ready to get one more term as primeminister.
Give up serbs, Kosova is gone, its independent, its not yours anymore, you cant do whatever you want in it anymore, its a free place after all.
We the albanians do not want to get stuck with people of myths, so therefore we will be independent. We do not want to be a part of an arrogant country like Serbia who thinks that everyone else has to follow international laws except Serbia itself.
Like it or not, Kosova is an independent place and you have no power to do anything. This is the truth, I know it hurts you so bad but thats good because you deserve it.
Thanks to USA for the great help given to ALbanians. Also, thanks to Russia for not supporting Serbia and leaving it to hope in Slovakia and... some african countries, hahahaha. Can you imagine Russia leaving you in the hands of some african countries... This is unimaginable but yet true.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

I am glad that I managed to wake up everybody from deep sleep.Let me go in order:
Zoran- Yes we did compromise by givin serb minorities more rights and prevledges than you could give your minorties in serbia proper.
BRIAN- What serbia wants cannot get it, because they lost that right since 1999.
Scandinavian- You are wrong body, because Fact finding delgation will come to Kosova and have a chat with PISG and UNMIK officials inluding serb politicians, and that is all. They have no need to go on the field because they have first hand information on that from UNMIK officials.
John- There is nothing left to talk about. Albanians have tried to talk for centuries to no avail. Remeber Ibrahim Rugova in 1980 talked to Milosheviq but that talk did not get things better for us but instead more opression and killing. We are done talking.
King Lazar- Kosovar Albanians were expelled from Kosova with guns pointed in their heads, remember that one.
Taras- I am dying to see that day again when serbian army will march in Kosova, not in your lifetime, never again.If I left anybody out I will respond later.

Nick

pre 17 godina

Taras,

Read the most recent statement from Nick Burns. It seems someone will indeed care, and not just someone but the worlds only superpower and its allies.

Your army and your radicals do not concern us.

George - USA

pre 17 godina

To all the commentary’s that are attacking Ahmet comment of “Real talks will restart, what a joke. Koshtunica took part in these talks for over year and half and what was that?” What I remember from read B92 that after the first round of talks the Albanians where negotiating and the Serbs refused to negotiate and budge on their domains. So known what changed and why does Koshtunica all the sudden wants to negotiate, while for the last year and a half her refused to budge on their domains ????