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Sunday, 15.04.2007.

09:41

Berlin reacts to Ambassador Zobel’s statements

A German Foreign Ministry spokesperson says Ambassador Zobel’s remarks reflected his personal opinion.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Zoran

pre 17 godina

Joe; even simple peasants can support or engage in genocide! What facts are false? The genocide of Serbs, Jews & Roma that was committed by Hungarian & German fascists? Anyone can look that up and see that it's true! Am I wrong about the Germans? Their actions & words speak for themselves. You talk about democracy in Germany & Italy like they invented it. In fact neither country before WWI had any history with democracy, it was forced on them by the Allies & then again after WWII. The German mindset is not one of democracy or freedom and history proves me right. However I do agree that Germany is the powerhouse of Europe (economically & soon militarily). They are highly intelligent, hard working & inventive. Unfortunately, they have used their talents for conquest and destruction; again history proves this to be true!

Joe

pre 17 godina

Nice try Matthew. Blame it on Tito. Oh the Serbs are always innocents like lambs around Jesus on some paintings.
Who made up most of the partisans around Tito...the Croatians ?

Matthew

pre 17 godina

Joe, it was Tito, a CROATIAN, who decided to settle scores with a variety of people after the war ended. How can you possibly blame this one on the Serbs, when it was a Croatian firmly in charge of EVERYTHING at the end of the war. Your argument in regards to this is nonsense.

Joe

pre 17 godina

Zoran,
You are a master of falsification of facts. Calling those peacefull peasants fascists is however a straight lie. Do you have any scruple? Those were simple peasants not involved in politics at all but out of vengence they were machine-gunned at the river Tisza. It was a systematic slaughter of man from 16 to 60 of several villages. Are you not ashamed to call those teenagers fascists? Zoran your mentality seems to be the mentality of the 1940's.
About the Germans: you are also terribly wrong. You still think in term of territorial occupation. Today what count is the economic power, the technical know-how, where the Germains excel. After WWII Germany was a ruined country with 12-14 million refugees. With hard work and know-how in record time they re-built their country at the surprise and admiration of the whole world. They are the 3rd economic power in the world and the "locomotive" of the EU. If you ever want to enter the EU you better be used to their status. Otherwise - contrary what you try to spread as old propoganda - they are true democrates for decades. They are people who can recognize old crimes, there are others, who are incapable to do so.

Djuro UK

pre 17 godina

If a UK diplomat tries that on they are recalled so they dont stir more trouble

Also at the weekend we have seen racism coming from the German army...so old habits die very very hard in Deutschland

Abraham Lincoln

pre 17 godina

Whatever. Serbia has never and will never be bullyied by the germans. zobels remarks were not just his "opinion". It is well known that many in the german political elite feel the same.
Instead of the insanity of Serbians to abandon KosMet. germany needs to abandon it's false sensce of power in the Balkans.
Twice germanys arrogance has lead to her defeat!
Serbia and our Orthodox allies are righteous and justified. The tide has turned and only God does the Serbian need to fear and heed.

Zoran

pre 17 godina

Go to BBC.com Europe and read the Article "German Army in racist video". German soldiers are being trained to kill African Americans in the Bronx New York! To all the people who think that the German mindset has changed since WWII this is proof that it has not. The Germans still consider Africans, Slavs, Muslims, Jews as sub-human! Albanians, Muslim Bosnians listen up. The Germans are just using you for their own geopolitical endeavors, when they are finished with you they will deal with you as sub-humans because that is the way they see you. Zobel was not "just expressing his opinion" he was stating the German official opinion and their age old desire to dominate the Balkans. About Vojvodina; Joe wrote that in 1944 Serbs committed genocide against Hungarian peasants. Let's take a closer look at that event. The Hungarians were allied with Germany & the other Axis powers. Hungary was given Vojvodina as a gift for their alliance with Germany. In 1941 Germany & Hungary invaded Vojvodina & along with the local Hungarians set up a puppet state & occupied it. Shortly after, Hungarian & German fascists systematically engaged in a genocide against Serbs in Vojvodina to pave the way for the Hungarian take-over. In 1944 when partisan & Soviet troops liberated Vojvodina they went after the fascists who perpetrated or supported the genocide against Serbs and executed them. Hungarians who engaged or supported the genocide were punished as were Germans. This was not a genocide against innocent Hungarians. The fascists had to be stopped so that the Serbs would be able to live in peace in their own country. Historical records indicate that several thousand Hungarians & Germans were killed, some say that maybe more than 10,000. To this day 300,000 Hungarians live in peace in Vojvodina with the Serbs whom they tried to eliminate.

Zoran

pre 17 godina

Go to BBC.com Europe and read the Article "German Army in racist video". German soldiers are being trained to kill African Americans in the Bronx New York! To all the people who think that the German mindset has changed since WWII this is proof that it has not. The Germans still consider Africans, Slavs, Muslims, Jews as sub-human! Albanians, Muslim Bosnians listen up. The Germans are just using you for their own geopolitical endeavors, when they are finished with you they will deal with you as sub-humans because that is the way they see you. Zobel was not "just expressing his opinion" he was stating the German official opinion and their age old desire to dominate the Balkans. About Vojvodina; Joe wrote that in 1944 Serbs committed genocide against Hungarian peasants. Let's take a closer look at that event. The Hungarians were allied with Germany & the other Axis powers. Hungary was given Vojvodina as a gift for their alliance with Germany. In 1941 Germany & Hungary invaded Vojvodina & along with the local Hungarians set up a puppet state & occupied it. Shortly after, Hungarian & German fascists systematically engaged in a genocide against Serbs in Vojvodina to pave the way for the Hungarian take-over. In 1944 when partisan & Soviet troops liberated Vojvodina they went after the fascists who perpetrated or supported the genocide against Serbs and executed them. Hungarians who engaged or supported the genocide were punished as were Germans. This was not a genocide against innocent Hungarians. The fascists had to be stopped so that the Serbs would be able to live in peace in their own country. Historical records indicate that several thousand Hungarians & Germans were killed, some say that maybe more than 10,000. To this day 300,000 Hungarians live in peace in Vojvodina with the Serbs whom they tried to eliminate.

Abraham Lincoln

pre 17 godina

Whatever. Serbia has never and will never be bullyied by the germans. zobels remarks were not just his "opinion". It is well known that many in the german political elite feel the same.
Instead of the insanity of Serbians to abandon KosMet. germany needs to abandon it's false sensce of power in the Balkans.
Twice germanys arrogance has lead to her defeat!
Serbia and our Orthodox allies are righteous and justified. The tide has turned and only God does the Serbian need to fear and heed.

Djuro UK

pre 17 godina

If a UK diplomat tries that on they are recalled so they dont stir more trouble

Also at the weekend we have seen racism coming from the German army...so old habits die very very hard in Deutschland

Joe

pre 17 godina

Zoran,
You are a master of falsification of facts. Calling those peacefull peasants fascists is however a straight lie. Do you have any scruple? Those were simple peasants not involved in politics at all but out of vengence they were machine-gunned at the river Tisza. It was a systematic slaughter of man from 16 to 60 of several villages. Are you not ashamed to call those teenagers fascists? Zoran your mentality seems to be the mentality of the 1940's.
About the Germans: you are also terribly wrong. You still think in term of territorial occupation. Today what count is the economic power, the technical know-how, where the Germains excel. After WWII Germany was a ruined country with 12-14 million refugees. With hard work and know-how in record time they re-built their country at the surprise and admiration of the whole world. They are the 3rd economic power in the world and the "locomotive" of the EU. If you ever want to enter the EU you better be used to their status. Otherwise - contrary what you try to spread as old propoganda - they are true democrates for decades. They are people who can recognize old crimes, there are others, who are incapable to do so.

Matthew

pre 17 godina

Joe, it was Tito, a CROATIAN, who decided to settle scores with a variety of people after the war ended. How can you possibly blame this one on the Serbs, when it was a Croatian firmly in charge of EVERYTHING at the end of the war. Your argument in regards to this is nonsense.

Joe

pre 17 godina

Nice try Matthew. Blame it on Tito. Oh the Serbs are always innocents like lambs around Jesus on some paintings.
Who made up most of the partisans around Tito...the Croatians ?

Zoran

pre 17 godina

Joe; even simple peasants can support or engage in genocide! What facts are false? The genocide of Serbs, Jews & Roma that was committed by Hungarian & German fascists? Anyone can look that up and see that it's true! Am I wrong about the Germans? Their actions & words speak for themselves. You talk about democracy in Germany & Italy like they invented it. In fact neither country before WWI had any history with democracy, it was forced on them by the Allies & then again after WWII. The German mindset is not one of democracy or freedom and history proves me right. However I do agree that Germany is the powerhouse of Europe (economically & soon militarily). They are highly intelligent, hard working & inventive. Unfortunately, they have used their talents for conquest and destruction; again history proves this to be true!

Zoran

pre 17 godina

Go to BBC.com Europe and read the Article "German Army in racist video". German soldiers are being trained to kill African Americans in the Bronx New York! To all the people who think that the German mindset has changed since WWII this is proof that it has not. The Germans still consider Africans, Slavs, Muslims, Jews as sub-human! Albanians, Muslim Bosnians listen up. The Germans are just using you for their own geopolitical endeavors, when they are finished with you they will deal with you as sub-humans because that is the way they see you. Zobel was not "just expressing his opinion" he was stating the German official opinion and their age old desire to dominate the Balkans. About Vojvodina; Joe wrote that in 1944 Serbs committed genocide against Hungarian peasants. Let's take a closer look at that event. The Hungarians were allied with Germany & the other Axis powers. Hungary was given Vojvodina as a gift for their alliance with Germany. In 1941 Germany & Hungary invaded Vojvodina & along with the local Hungarians set up a puppet state & occupied it. Shortly after, Hungarian & German fascists systematically engaged in a genocide against Serbs in Vojvodina to pave the way for the Hungarian take-over. In 1944 when partisan & Soviet troops liberated Vojvodina they went after the fascists who perpetrated or supported the genocide against Serbs and executed them. Hungarians who engaged or supported the genocide were punished as were Germans. This was not a genocide against innocent Hungarians. The fascists had to be stopped so that the Serbs would be able to live in peace in their own country. Historical records indicate that several thousand Hungarians & Germans were killed, some say that maybe more than 10,000. To this day 300,000 Hungarians live in peace in Vojvodina with the Serbs whom they tried to eliminate.

Abraham Lincoln

pre 17 godina

Whatever. Serbia has never and will never be bullyied by the germans. zobels remarks were not just his "opinion". It is well known that many in the german political elite feel the same.
Instead of the insanity of Serbians to abandon KosMet. germany needs to abandon it's false sensce of power in the Balkans.
Twice germanys arrogance has lead to her defeat!
Serbia and our Orthodox allies are righteous and justified. The tide has turned and only God does the Serbian need to fear and heed.

Djuro UK

pre 17 godina

If a UK diplomat tries that on they are recalled so they dont stir more trouble

Also at the weekend we have seen racism coming from the German army...so old habits die very very hard in Deutschland

Joe

pre 17 godina

Zoran,
You are a master of falsification of facts. Calling those peacefull peasants fascists is however a straight lie. Do you have any scruple? Those were simple peasants not involved in politics at all but out of vengence they were machine-gunned at the river Tisza. It was a systematic slaughter of man from 16 to 60 of several villages. Are you not ashamed to call those teenagers fascists? Zoran your mentality seems to be the mentality of the 1940's.
About the Germans: you are also terribly wrong. You still think in term of territorial occupation. Today what count is the economic power, the technical know-how, where the Germains excel. After WWII Germany was a ruined country with 12-14 million refugees. With hard work and know-how in record time they re-built their country at the surprise and admiration of the whole world. They are the 3rd economic power in the world and the "locomotive" of the EU. If you ever want to enter the EU you better be used to their status. Otherwise - contrary what you try to spread as old propoganda - they are true democrates for decades. They are people who can recognize old crimes, there are others, who are incapable to do so.

Matthew

pre 17 godina

Joe, it was Tito, a CROATIAN, who decided to settle scores with a variety of people after the war ended. How can you possibly blame this one on the Serbs, when it was a Croatian firmly in charge of EVERYTHING at the end of the war. Your argument in regards to this is nonsense.

Joe

pre 17 godina

Nice try Matthew. Blame it on Tito. Oh the Serbs are always innocents like lambs around Jesus on some paintings.
Who made up most of the partisans around Tito...the Croatians ?

Zoran

pre 17 godina

Joe; even simple peasants can support or engage in genocide! What facts are false? The genocide of Serbs, Jews & Roma that was committed by Hungarian & German fascists? Anyone can look that up and see that it's true! Am I wrong about the Germans? Their actions & words speak for themselves. You talk about democracy in Germany & Italy like they invented it. In fact neither country before WWI had any history with democracy, it was forced on them by the Allies & then again after WWII. The German mindset is not one of democracy or freedom and history proves me right. However I do agree that Germany is the powerhouse of Europe (economically & soon militarily). They are highly intelligent, hard working & inventive. Unfortunately, they have used their talents for conquest and destruction; again history proves this to be true!