“The EU will not forget Mladić”

The world will never forget what Mladic did in Srebrenica, not more that the world has forgotten what happened in Auschwitz during WW2. Certains events remain no matter, and the Serbs seem to disregard this reality.

“Evading the capture of Mladić will never be condoned. EU countries don’t share the same ground when it comes to making Mladić a prerequisite to the finalization of the Stabilization and Association agreement. Sooner or later, we will have to deal with arresting Mladić.”

This quote is at the core of the matter.

Certainly the EU27 are manifesting their habitual differences on an issue of foreign policy. It would be tempting for some to say that the EU is therefore backing down and Mladic can be forgotten.

In the long run this will be a mistake and if you believe that Serbia's future is brightest as a member of the EU, a grave disservice to Serbia and its citizens.

The differences which exist between the EU27 are of timing and opportunity. At the end of the day it is clear without full co-operation there will be no SAA and certainly no hope of membership to the EU.

The majority of people have a very short attention span.Note how the average advertising commercial is only 30 seconds in length.The economic well being of the Balkans should not be held hostage to the whereabouts of the 6 remaining indictees.If Interpol knows where they are let them go get them but it is immature and very short sighted to interwine political with economic matters.The good of millions should not be held hostage to the will of these 6 indictees to remain free men.

@Victor

Hopefully the world will never forget about the actions of Naser Oric and his horrific actions, which subsequently resulted in the actions the Serbian forces took in Srebrenica!

Majstor, very few across the world don't even who Oric is, but many remember well what Mladic has done in Srebrenica, and the whole world knows what happened in Omarska where 10s and 10s of poor Muslims were beaten, tortured ande killed every night.

The ICTY listened to Oric and they decided to sentence him to 2 years. Could it be because the evidence was not sufficient or the facts against him were not founded! I do not know why the judges did not believe the facts as exposed by the Serbs. Do you? And please don't tell me about the anti-Serb sentiment at the ICTY. This I do not believe.

Firstly, we all know that Serbia wants to join the EU, because Serbia has always been Europe, and Serbia will always be Europe.

However, Serbia can not do the impossible even as no other nation can. If it is possible then Serbia will most certainly hand over Mladic as soon as possible. I believe that Serbia has no other option other than to seek trading partners and buisness investments from non-EU sources.

Basically, the EU wants Serbia to do the impossible, and refuses to give Serbia the presumption of innocence which everyone is entited to. I know that they can never be reasonable or ever satisfied regardless of the fact that you are doing your utmost to co-operate with Europe.

Controversial statement time: We should forget about Mladic for the moment and get Serbia in the EU, ASAP.

I want to see him face justice as much as the next person but not at the expense of the ordinary Serbs who have the right to a decent standard of living which is impossible so long as serbia remains in limbo while its future is discussed by outsiders (The EU).

It is time to bring in Europes isolated neighbour, improve its living standards and pull the rug from under the nationalism that has held Serbia back while its neighbours move on.

Then maybe the EU will have a better chance of getting Mladic as his support networks crumble.

@Victor

"The world will never forget what Mladic did in Srebrenica, not more that the world has forgotten what happened in Auschwitz during WW2.."

No mention of Jasenovac funnily enough. Something that the 'free' Media is loath to mention and many still remain ignorant. So, who's crime is more important than someone else's?

I totally reject the way some try to equate Srebrenica with the holocaust or call it 'genocide'. It doesn't become true just because it is continually repeated. There is a reason that we have historians.

The fact that you, Victor, mention Srebrenica it in the same breath as Auschwitz is shameful in the extreme and shows your stunning ignorance about the Holocaust.

Not all crimes are equal. None should be forgot, but 'political correctness' should be ignored and the current trend to call anything and everything 'genocide' should stop.

It's sad that it is felt that to be noticed by the international community you have to say 'genocide' as it is the only word that the Media has a pavlovian reaction to (regardless of the truth).

Ultimately, action has nothing to do with the media but strategic interests, hence Rwanda and Cambodia. The Sudan is horrendous, but not genocide.

Proclaiming 'genocide' by politicians is an easy and cheap way to claim the moral higher ground and silence your critics as well as simplifying the job of the Media & PR/PA agencies with specific agendas to get across.

Aleks: you may not like the term genocide as applied to Serb atrocities at Srebrenica, Omarska, Brcko, Sarajevo, etc., but without a doubt the actions planned and coordinated by Belgrade under the JNA's RAM plan do in fact fulfill the requirements of the Genocide Conventions.

Anyway, forget the term, how about the substance: 8,000 murdered by Mladic and co. in Srebrenica, and a few thousand tortured and/or killed at Omarska, for example.

No way should the EU accept Serbia whilst it continues to protect many of those responsible. If the Serbian security agencies wanted Mladic and Karadzic they could take them, but the reality is they agree with them and support them.

The EU has its own history of backward, primitive fascism and racism. I think we don't need any more for now, thanks.

As for the millions of poor innocents who voted for Milosevic, cheered at the TV as the Greater Serb dream unfolded and then moaned that the world is against them, perhaps they should have thought about the consequences of their support for nationalism at the time? Just a thought!

but without a doubt the actions planned and coordinated by Belgrade under the JNA's RAM plan do in fact fulfill the requirements of the Genocide Conventions.
(Lee, Monday, 19 February, 2007, 16:53)

Again, the ICTY failed to prove any connection between the JNA, Milosevic and the civil war in Yugoslavia. If you are so interested, read the transcripts which are available to all in the ICTY website. If it was proven, Milosevic would have been proutly pronounced guilty in absentia which he was not.

All parties are guilty of horrible attrocities, but some are publicized more than others for obvious reason of western intervention in the internal affairs of the the then soveriegn state of Yugoslavia.

If there was international justice, than the complicity of the Majahadeen who were flown in from various Muslim countries into Bosnia Herzegovina would have been condemned along with Nasir Oric who was associated with them.

Finally, the propoganda of Omarska is well known and public. It was a temporary camp for all refugees , Serbs and Muslims alike but it was the breaking CNN story that led to the bombing of the Bosnian Serbs carefully orchestrated by the Public Relations firm Ruder Finn. Omarska was not a concentration camp for your information.

The world will never forget what Mladic did in Srebrenica, not more that the world has forgotten what happened in Auschwitz during WW2. Certains events remain no matter, and the Serbs seem to disregard this reality.

“Evading the capture of Mladić will never be condoned. EU countries don’t share the same ground when it comes to making Mladić a prerequisite to the finalization of the Stabilization and Association agreement. Sooner or later, we will have to deal with arresting Mladić.”

This quote is at the core of the matter.

Certainly the EU27 are manifesting their habitual differences on an issue of foreign policy. It would be tempting for some to say that the EU is therefore backing down and Mladic can be forgotten.

In the long run this will be a mistake and if you believe that Serbia's future is brightest as a member of the EU, a grave disservice to Serbia and its citizens.

The differences which exist between the EU27 are of timing and opportunity. At the end of the day it is clear without full co-operation there will be no SAA and certainly no hope of membership to the EU.

The majority of people have a very short attention span.Note how the average advertising commercial is only 30 seconds in length.The economic well being of the Balkans should not be held hostage to the whereabouts of the 6 remaining indictees.If Interpol knows where they are let them go get them but it is immature and very short sighted to interwine political with economic matters.The good of millions should not be held hostage to the will of these 6 indictees to remain free men.

@Victor

Hopefully the world will never forget about the actions of Naser Oric and his horrific actions, which subsequently resulted in the actions the Serbian forces took in Srebrenica!

Majstor, very few across the world don't even who Oric is, but many remember well what Mladic has done in Srebrenica, and the whole world knows what happened in Omarska where 10s and 10s of poor Muslims were beaten, tortured ande killed every night.

The ICTY listened to Oric and they decided to sentence him to 2 years. Could it be because the evidence was not sufficient or the facts against him were not founded! I do not know why the judges did not believe the facts as exposed by the Serbs. Do you? And please don't tell me about the anti-Serb sentiment at the ICTY. This I do not believe.

Firstly, we all know that Serbia wants to join the EU, because Serbia has always been Europe, and Serbia will always be Europe.

However, Serbia can not do the impossible even as no other nation can. If it is possible then Serbia will most certainly hand over Mladic as soon as possible. I believe that Serbia has no other option other than to seek trading partners and buisness investments from non-EU sources.

Basically, the EU wants Serbia to do the impossible, and refuses to give Serbia the presumption of innocence which everyone is entited to. I know that they can never be reasonable or ever satisfied regardless of the fact that you are doing your utmost to co-operate with Europe.

Controversial statement time: We should forget about Mladic for the moment and get Serbia in the EU, ASAP.

I want to see him face justice as much as the next person but not at the expense of the ordinary Serbs who have the right to a decent standard of living which is impossible so long as serbia remains in limbo while its future is discussed by outsiders (The EU).

It is time to bring in Europes isolated neighbour, improve its living standards and pull the rug from under the nationalism that has held Serbia back while its neighbours move on.

Then maybe the EU will have a better chance of getting Mladic as his support networks crumble.

@Victor

"The world will never forget what Mladic did in Srebrenica, not more that the world has forgotten what happened in Auschwitz during WW2.."

No mention of Jasenovac funnily enough. Something that the 'free' Media is loath to mention and many still remain ignorant. So, who's crime is more important than someone else's?

I totally reject the way some try to equate Srebrenica with the holocaust or call it 'genocide'. It doesn't become true just because it is continually repeated. There is a reason that we have historians.

The fact that you, Victor, mention Srebrenica it in the same breath as Auschwitz is shameful in the extreme and shows your stunning ignorance about the Holocaust.

Not all crimes are equal. None should be forgot, but 'political correctness' should be ignored and the current trend to call anything and everything 'genocide' should stop.

It's sad that it is felt that to be noticed by the international community you have to say 'genocide' as it is the only word that the Media has a pavlovian reaction to (regardless of the truth).

Ultimately, action has nothing to do with the media but strategic interests, hence Rwanda and Cambodia. The Sudan is horrendous, but not genocide.

Proclaiming 'genocide' by politicians is an easy and cheap way to claim the moral higher ground and silence your critics as well as simplifying the job of the Media & PR/PA agencies with specific agendas to get across.

Aleks: you may not like the term genocide as applied to Serb atrocities at Srebrenica, Omarska, Brcko, Sarajevo, etc., but without a doubt the actions planned and coordinated by Belgrade under the JNA's RAM plan do in fact fulfill the requirements of the Genocide Conventions.

Anyway, forget the term, how about the substance: 8,000 murdered by Mladic and co. in Srebrenica, and a few thousand tortured and/or killed at Omarska, for example.

No way should the EU accept Serbia whilst it continues to protect many of those responsible. If the Serbian security agencies wanted Mladic and Karadzic they could take them, but the reality is they agree with them and support them.

The EU has its own history of backward, primitive fascism and racism. I think we don't need any more for now, thanks.

As for the millions of poor innocents who voted for Milosevic, cheered at the TV as the Greater Serb dream unfolded and then moaned that the world is against them, perhaps they should have thought about the consequences of their support for nationalism at the time? Just a thought!

but without a doubt the actions planned and coordinated by Belgrade under the JNA's RAM plan do in fact fulfill the requirements of the Genocide Conventions.
(Lee, Monday, 19 February, 2007, 16:53)

Again, the ICTY failed to prove any connection between the JNA, Milosevic and the civil war in Yugoslavia. If you are so interested, read the transcripts which are available to all in the ICTY website. If it was proven, Milosevic would have been proutly pronounced guilty in absentia which he was not.

All parties are guilty of horrible attrocities, but some are publicized more than others for obvious reason of western intervention in the internal affairs of the the then soveriegn state of Yugoslavia.

If there was international justice, than the complicity of the Majahadeen who were flown in from various Muslim countries into Bosnia Herzegovina would have been condemned along with Nasir Oric who was associated with them.

Finally, the propoganda of Omarska is well known and public. It was a temporary camp for all refugees , Serbs and Muslims alike but it was the breaking CNN story that led to the bombing of the Bosnian Serbs carefully orchestrated by the Public Relations firm Ruder Finn. Omarska was not a concentration camp for your information.