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Saturday, 26.08.2006.

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Ahtisaari: A burden to pay for

Marti Ahtisaari told Belgrade, in the context of latest developments over Kosovo, that every nation has a burden to pay for

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sasa

pre 17 godina

I am not sure how Serbian people can trust the man who overlooked kilings of 2000 people?

Taken from other website:
A grave case of memory loss
John Matshikiza: WITH THE LID OFF
28 November 2005 10:42
Amnesia is a wonderful thing. How delicious to hear a spat reaching decibels of hysteria between former Boetie Gaan Border Toe Jannie Geldenhuys and the mild-mannered, high-foreheaded, comfortably chubby former president of Finland, Marti Ahtisaari, who was also the United Nations’s point man in the disputed territory of Namibia, South West Africa before that.

The spat has come about because neither of them can quite remember how it came to pass that some 1 700 South West African People’s Organisation (Swapo) combatants should somehow have disappeared into shallow mass graves, most of them manacled and some of them shot in the back, at the time when the country was nearing independence in 1990.

There seems to be amnesia all round. The Swapo leadership of the time, led by recently, reluctantly retired president Sam Nujoma, also doesn’t seem to remember too clearly why it sent 2 000 of its trained armed cadres, 1 700 of whom would never be heard of again, into the country at a time when there was finally a ceasefire in place to allow the antagonists, namely Swapo, who clearly had a right to be there, and the South African army, who clearly didn’t, to get together under the auspices of the UN and talk about the nuts and bolts of handing over power.

The Swapo guerrilla war against the occupying apartheid South African army had been spluttering indecisively since the 1960s. Why suddenly a bravura incursion of 2 000 soldiers, who probably had no idea what the game plan was, at a time when the whole world knew the war was over? Was the idea to make it seem as if Swapo had suddenly mustered the guile and muscle to send the high-tech, Western-sponsored South African army into ignominious retreat with a few AK-47s and a Stalin organ or two? Or was the idea, as some have suggested, to find a less-than-subtle way of getting rid of a few battalions of potential troublemakers who had been languishing restlessly in Swapo camps in Zambia and Angola for years, and who might turn out to be a Pandora’s box of unfinished business in the murky, mysterious politics of an emerging Namibia? Who might have a lot of uncomfortable and uncomplimentary things to say about their own leadership in the lead up to a period of triumphalist electioneering back on home soil geared to assuring Nujoma a clear run to the presidency?

Alas, poor Yorick and Co. Who were all those guys whose skulls have just been dug up anyway? Would anybody miss them? To Geldenhuys and his faceless masters in Pretoria (some of whom were to go on to win the Nobel Peace Prize in later years), they were just so many units of vaguely menacing vermin. To the UN, far removed among the wealthy towers of New York, they were abstract black pawns in a recently abandoned East-West power game. To the liberation movement, they were troublesome mouths to feed and clothe, the voice of the people taking on a life of its own of a kind that was never intended. Believe me, there were rebellions in all the Southern African liberation movement camps, the rank and swine, as they came to call themselves, champing at the bit in the face of leaderships that veered from indecisiveness to naked corruption.

So when Geldenhuys points a finger at Ahtisaari when mass graves are discovered in the Namibian wilderness and says, “Don’t ask me, ask him. I wasn’t there,” he is right in a sense -- although somewhat reticent and selective with the truth. The UN had claimed to be in charge of Namibia since about 1964, when a tousle-haired Russian diplomat from the UN secretariat landed at Windhoek airport in a timid-looking Cessna and declared that he was taking over the country from the South Africans in the name of the world body. He was given a swift and precise kick in the pants by the South Africans and told where he could go with his Cessna.

But from that time on, the UN blustered to the world about its authority over Namibia, based on some vague League of Nations mandate written up after the end of World War I, and stamped around talking about the occupying South African army and its vicious Koevoet and other special terror units like ineffectual prefects talking to an uninterested headmaster about bullies in the school playground. They never actually sent in any of the many military forces at their disposal to actually do anything about it -- as they would have done in the twink-ling of an eye if, say, the Russians had decided to occupy apartheid South Africa and free the people, or the Communist Chinese had invaded New Zealand to free the Maoris and the sheep from centuries-old oppression by British settlers.

When Geldenhuys says he and his boys were no longer in Namibia, so how could they have committed that appalling atrocity, he is being somewhat forgetful of the facts -- that South Africa had no intention of pulling out of Namibia until it absolutely had to. In fact, they were sticking their tongues out at the world community and waiting for the Swapo army to march in so that they could teach them a final, useless lesson they would never forget.

Except that the Swapo leadership did forget, and hoped that they would stay forgetful for a long time to come -- until some nosey parker dug up those bones and brought the whole shameful episode back to sickening life for all concerned.

Ahtisaari, meanwhile, is off on another mission of mercy to sort out more civil war atrocities in Bosnia. He just wishes he could forget about that whole sorry gang in that long-forgotten, brutal war for Namibia.

Ray

pre 17 godina

When will it end? International laws are constantly being bent and or ignored to suit certain nations of wealth and high political power.International borders, historical and cultural heritages no longer matter especially in the case of Kosovo. Yet again international political decisions made by countries who do not understand and care about the sacrifices of the past of all races in the Balkans especialy the Serbian people are in charge again and will no doubt make decisions that will benefit someone politically and no doubt finacially at the expense of the people of Serbia. In this case terrorism looks like winning and Kosovo will become independant. Look out Macedonia if Kosovo becomes independant what lies ahead in your future is very concerning!

Paul

pre 17 godina

Are these comments from Marti Ahtisaari really reals?
Is it really someone in the UN so ignorant as to have such a simplistic opinion on this old old conflict?
Is really such an ignorant to be in situation of acting for the résolution of the conflict in Kosovo ?
If the answers are yes, the first problem of Kosovo has a name : UN.

nyoutlawyer

pre 17 godina

Ms. Williams, that was incredibly right on. The greedy super-capitalist globalizers are playing the people of the Balkans like a fiddle. And with a tune only they are enjoying and get any pleasure from.

Branko

pre 17 godina

I think Mr Ahtisaari now has put his cards on the table, should resign.Its quite clear which side he has taken, I thought he was supposed to have no allegiance to either people. I am a Brit (Serb) but hope Serbia does not join the EU. I'm sure they would do better without joining the club. I hope to come to Belgrade for the 3rd time in 2007, and do not think its worth paying the price if Serbs have to adopt the EU way. I have seen it, please don't go there.
Regards to all serbs.

xenia lynn teresa williams

pre 17 godina

The comment I wish to make is based on the idea that a crime committed does not commute to other members when the original perpetrator ceases to exist. The new Serbian government operates under different ideas and values. They are, while being birthed of the circumstances of their past, a different entity. The crimes that were committed before they came into being died with the--unfortunately misguided--Slobodan Milosevic, and the regime that he represented-which also ceased to exist. If the Albanians want to insist on such an argument, then the Serbs have many centuries and documented reports of decades of recent atrocities to point to that were committed against their peoples by an agressive invading force--The Ottoman Empire and current Albanian Extremists. The Albanian Muslims are the result of forced conversions and are the remnants of that horrible era. They still enjoy plenty of support from successor states of the Ottoman Empire, allegedly, Iran and Syria. In conclusion, having the daughter pay for the crimes of the mother is a bad argument. The Albanians use it because it is emotional and subjected to quick accessible sound bites. They are using it to misrepresent the true historical situation.They use it because the West wants to believe it as it legitimizes their unlawful presence in the region.Ahtisaari and Rueker have exposed themselves as pawns in this. In other words the truth is this: it is that the International Community is willfully blinded because of their devotion to their idol laissez-faire capitalism, and their dedication to the liberalism of unrestrained greed. UNMIK's presence in the area is a cover of 21st American led western colonialism. It's not complicated at all. It's just Greed having its day in the International Kangaroo Court of the ICTY.

Aldrin

pre 17 godina

I belive that is time for leaders in Serbia to re-think once again, if they really want to be part of EU, and Atlanitic-treat, beacuse until this point NOT A SINGLE WESTERN DIPLOMATS were good enough for serbians , they acuse every single UN administrator that came in Kosova ,every single western Diplomats , or US dimplomate.Serbian leaders thay have to make up their mind , IF THEY WANT TO JOIN THE EU. AND NATO OR NOT.It is pathethic ,Serbia wants to join EU. but they don't like EU.it is absurd !.Petersen was not good, Artisari is not good,my question is ,is there anybody good enough for Serbia ,When you read this comment you migh think of Russia but, don't forget Russia is not part of EU neither located in western Europe.

xenia lynn teresa williams

pre 17 godina

The comment I wish to make is based on the idea that a crime committed does not commute to other members when the original perpetrator ceases to exist. The new Serbian government operates under different ideas and values. They are, while being birthed of the circumstances of their past, a different entity. The crimes that were committed before they came into being died with the--unfortunately misguided--Slobodan Milosevic, and the regime that he represented-which also ceased to exist. If the Albanians want to insist on such an argument, then the Serbs have many centuries and documented reports of decades of recent atrocities to point to that were committed against their peoples by an agressive invading force--The Ottoman Empire and current Albanian Extremists. The Albanian Muslims are the result of forced conversions and are the remnants of that horrible era. They still enjoy plenty of support from successor states of the Ottoman Empire, allegedly, Iran and Syria. In conclusion, having the daughter pay for the crimes of the mother is a bad argument. The Albanians use it because it is emotional and subjected to quick accessible sound bites. They are using it to misrepresent the true historical situation.They use it because the West wants to believe it as it legitimizes their unlawful presence in the region.Ahtisaari and Rueker have exposed themselves as pawns in this. In other words the truth is this: it is that the International Community is willfully blinded because of their devotion to their idol laissez-faire capitalism, and their dedication to the liberalism of unrestrained greed. UNMIK's presence in the area is a cover of 21st American led western colonialism. It's not complicated at all. It's just Greed having its day in the International Kangaroo Court of the ICTY.

Aldrin

pre 17 godina

I belive that is time for leaders in Serbia to re-think once again, if they really want to be part of EU, and Atlanitic-treat, beacuse until this point NOT A SINGLE WESTERN DIPLOMATS were good enough for serbians , they acuse every single UN administrator that came in Kosova ,every single western Diplomats , or US dimplomate.Serbian leaders thay have to make up their mind , IF THEY WANT TO JOIN THE EU. AND NATO OR NOT.It is pathethic ,Serbia wants to join EU. but they don't like EU.it is absurd !.Petersen was not good, Artisari is not good,my question is ,is there anybody good enough for Serbia ,When you read this comment you migh think of Russia but, don't forget Russia is not part of EU neither located in western Europe.

Branko

pre 17 godina

I think Mr Ahtisaari now has put his cards on the table, should resign.Its quite clear which side he has taken, I thought he was supposed to have no allegiance to either people. I am a Brit (Serb) but hope Serbia does not join the EU. I'm sure they would do better without joining the club. I hope to come to Belgrade for the 3rd time in 2007, and do not think its worth paying the price if Serbs have to adopt the EU way. I have seen it, please don't go there.
Regards to all serbs.

nyoutlawyer

pre 17 godina

Ms. Williams, that was incredibly right on. The greedy super-capitalist globalizers are playing the people of the Balkans like a fiddle. And with a tune only they are enjoying and get any pleasure from.

Paul

pre 17 godina

Are these comments from Marti Ahtisaari really reals?
Is it really someone in the UN so ignorant as to have such a simplistic opinion on this old old conflict?
Is really such an ignorant to be in situation of acting for the résolution of the conflict in Kosovo ?
If the answers are yes, the first problem of Kosovo has a name : UN.

Ray

pre 17 godina

When will it end? International laws are constantly being bent and or ignored to suit certain nations of wealth and high political power.International borders, historical and cultural heritages no longer matter especially in the case of Kosovo. Yet again international political decisions made by countries who do not understand and care about the sacrifices of the past of all races in the Balkans especialy the Serbian people are in charge again and will no doubt make decisions that will benefit someone politically and no doubt finacially at the expense of the people of Serbia. In this case terrorism looks like winning and Kosovo will become independant. Look out Macedonia if Kosovo becomes independant what lies ahead in your future is very concerning!

sasa

pre 17 godina

I am not sure how Serbian people can trust the man who overlooked kilings of 2000 people?

Taken from other website:
A grave case of memory loss
John Matshikiza: WITH THE LID OFF
28 November 2005 10:42
Amnesia is a wonderful thing. How delicious to hear a spat reaching decibels of hysteria between former Boetie Gaan Border Toe Jannie Geldenhuys and the mild-mannered, high-foreheaded, comfortably chubby former president of Finland, Marti Ahtisaari, who was also the United Nations’s point man in the disputed territory of Namibia, South West Africa before that.

The spat has come about because neither of them can quite remember how it came to pass that some 1 700 South West African People’s Organisation (Swapo) combatants should somehow have disappeared into shallow mass graves, most of them manacled and some of them shot in the back, at the time when the country was nearing independence in 1990.

There seems to be amnesia all round. The Swapo leadership of the time, led by recently, reluctantly retired president Sam Nujoma, also doesn’t seem to remember too clearly why it sent 2 000 of its trained armed cadres, 1 700 of whom would never be heard of again, into the country at a time when there was finally a ceasefire in place to allow the antagonists, namely Swapo, who clearly had a right to be there, and the South African army, who clearly didn’t, to get together under the auspices of the UN and talk about the nuts and bolts of handing over power.

The Swapo guerrilla war against the occupying apartheid South African army had been spluttering indecisively since the 1960s. Why suddenly a bravura incursion of 2 000 soldiers, who probably had no idea what the game plan was, at a time when the whole world knew the war was over? Was the idea to make it seem as if Swapo had suddenly mustered the guile and muscle to send the high-tech, Western-sponsored South African army into ignominious retreat with a few AK-47s and a Stalin organ or two? Or was the idea, as some have suggested, to find a less-than-subtle way of getting rid of a few battalions of potential troublemakers who had been languishing restlessly in Swapo camps in Zambia and Angola for years, and who might turn out to be a Pandora’s box of unfinished business in the murky, mysterious politics of an emerging Namibia? Who might have a lot of uncomfortable and uncomplimentary things to say about their own leadership in the lead up to a period of triumphalist electioneering back on home soil geared to assuring Nujoma a clear run to the presidency?

Alas, poor Yorick and Co. Who were all those guys whose skulls have just been dug up anyway? Would anybody miss them? To Geldenhuys and his faceless masters in Pretoria (some of whom were to go on to win the Nobel Peace Prize in later years), they were just so many units of vaguely menacing vermin. To the UN, far removed among the wealthy towers of New York, they were abstract black pawns in a recently abandoned East-West power game. To the liberation movement, they were troublesome mouths to feed and clothe, the voice of the people taking on a life of its own of a kind that was never intended. Believe me, there were rebellions in all the Southern African liberation movement camps, the rank and swine, as they came to call themselves, champing at the bit in the face of leaderships that veered from indecisiveness to naked corruption.

So when Geldenhuys points a finger at Ahtisaari when mass graves are discovered in the Namibian wilderness and says, “Don’t ask me, ask him. I wasn’t there,” he is right in a sense -- although somewhat reticent and selective with the truth. The UN had claimed to be in charge of Namibia since about 1964, when a tousle-haired Russian diplomat from the UN secretariat landed at Windhoek airport in a timid-looking Cessna and declared that he was taking over the country from the South Africans in the name of the world body. He was given a swift and precise kick in the pants by the South Africans and told where he could go with his Cessna.

But from that time on, the UN blustered to the world about its authority over Namibia, based on some vague League of Nations mandate written up after the end of World War I, and stamped around talking about the occupying South African army and its vicious Koevoet and other special terror units like ineffectual prefects talking to an uninterested headmaster about bullies in the school playground. They never actually sent in any of the many military forces at their disposal to actually do anything about it -- as they would have done in the twink-ling of an eye if, say, the Russians had decided to occupy apartheid South Africa and free the people, or the Communist Chinese had invaded New Zealand to free the Maoris and the sheep from centuries-old oppression by British settlers.

When Geldenhuys says he and his boys were no longer in Namibia, so how could they have committed that appalling atrocity, he is being somewhat forgetful of the facts -- that South Africa had no intention of pulling out of Namibia until it absolutely had to. In fact, they were sticking their tongues out at the world community and waiting for the Swapo army to march in so that they could teach them a final, useless lesson they would never forget.

Except that the Swapo leadership did forget, and hoped that they would stay forgetful for a long time to come -- until some nosey parker dug up those bones and brought the whole shameful episode back to sickening life for all concerned.

Ahtisaari, meanwhile, is off on another mission of mercy to sort out more civil war atrocities in Bosnia. He just wishes he could forget about that whole sorry gang in that long-forgotten, brutal war for Namibia.

Aldrin

pre 17 godina

I belive that is time for leaders in Serbia to re-think once again, if they really want to be part of EU, and Atlanitic-treat, beacuse until this point NOT A SINGLE WESTERN DIPLOMATS were good enough for serbians , they acuse every single UN administrator that came in Kosova ,every single western Diplomats , or US dimplomate.Serbian leaders thay have to make up their mind , IF THEY WANT TO JOIN THE EU. AND NATO OR NOT.It is pathethic ,Serbia wants to join EU. but they don't like EU.it is absurd !.Petersen was not good, Artisari is not good,my question is ,is there anybody good enough for Serbia ,When you read this comment you migh think of Russia but, don't forget Russia is not part of EU neither located in western Europe.

xenia lynn teresa williams

pre 17 godina

The comment I wish to make is based on the idea that a crime committed does not commute to other members when the original perpetrator ceases to exist. The new Serbian government operates under different ideas and values. They are, while being birthed of the circumstances of their past, a different entity. The crimes that were committed before they came into being died with the--unfortunately misguided--Slobodan Milosevic, and the regime that he represented-which also ceased to exist. If the Albanians want to insist on such an argument, then the Serbs have many centuries and documented reports of decades of recent atrocities to point to that were committed against their peoples by an agressive invading force--The Ottoman Empire and current Albanian Extremists. The Albanian Muslims are the result of forced conversions and are the remnants of that horrible era. They still enjoy plenty of support from successor states of the Ottoman Empire, allegedly, Iran and Syria. In conclusion, having the daughter pay for the crimes of the mother is a bad argument. The Albanians use it because it is emotional and subjected to quick accessible sound bites. They are using it to misrepresent the true historical situation.They use it because the West wants to believe it as it legitimizes their unlawful presence in the region.Ahtisaari and Rueker have exposed themselves as pawns in this. In other words the truth is this: it is that the International Community is willfully blinded because of their devotion to their idol laissez-faire capitalism, and their dedication to the liberalism of unrestrained greed. UNMIK's presence in the area is a cover of 21st American led western colonialism. It's not complicated at all. It's just Greed having its day in the International Kangaroo Court of the ICTY.

Branko

pre 17 godina

I think Mr Ahtisaari now has put his cards on the table, should resign.Its quite clear which side he has taken, I thought he was supposed to have no allegiance to either people. I am a Brit (Serb) but hope Serbia does not join the EU. I'm sure they would do better without joining the club. I hope to come to Belgrade for the 3rd time in 2007, and do not think its worth paying the price if Serbs have to adopt the EU way. I have seen it, please don't go there.
Regards to all serbs.

nyoutlawyer

pre 17 godina

Ms. Williams, that was incredibly right on. The greedy super-capitalist globalizers are playing the people of the Balkans like a fiddle. And with a tune only they are enjoying and get any pleasure from.

Paul

pre 17 godina

Are these comments from Marti Ahtisaari really reals?
Is it really someone in the UN so ignorant as to have such a simplistic opinion on this old old conflict?
Is really such an ignorant to be in situation of acting for the résolution of the conflict in Kosovo ?
If the answers are yes, the first problem of Kosovo has a name : UN.

Ray

pre 17 godina

When will it end? International laws are constantly being bent and or ignored to suit certain nations of wealth and high political power.International borders, historical and cultural heritages no longer matter especially in the case of Kosovo. Yet again international political decisions made by countries who do not understand and care about the sacrifices of the past of all races in the Balkans especialy the Serbian people are in charge again and will no doubt make decisions that will benefit someone politically and no doubt finacially at the expense of the people of Serbia. In this case terrorism looks like winning and Kosovo will become independant. Look out Macedonia if Kosovo becomes independant what lies ahead in your future is very concerning!

sasa

pre 17 godina

I am not sure how Serbian people can trust the man who overlooked kilings of 2000 people?

Taken from other website:
A grave case of memory loss
John Matshikiza: WITH THE LID OFF
28 November 2005 10:42
Amnesia is a wonderful thing. How delicious to hear a spat reaching decibels of hysteria between former Boetie Gaan Border Toe Jannie Geldenhuys and the mild-mannered, high-foreheaded, comfortably chubby former president of Finland, Marti Ahtisaari, who was also the United Nations’s point man in the disputed territory of Namibia, South West Africa before that.

The spat has come about because neither of them can quite remember how it came to pass that some 1 700 South West African People’s Organisation (Swapo) combatants should somehow have disappeared into shallow mass graves, most of them manacled and some of them shot in the back, at the time when the country was nearing independence in 1990.

There seems to be amnesia all round. The Swapo leadership of the time, led by recently, reluctantly retired president Sam Nujoma, also doesn’t seem to remember too clearly why it sent 2 000 of its trained armed cadres, 1 700 of whom would never be heard of again, into the country at a time when there was finally a ceasefire in place to allow the antagonists, namely Swapo, who clearly had a right to be there, and the South African army, who clearly didn’t, to get together under the auspices of the UN and talk about the nuts and bolts of handing over power.

The Swapo guerrilla war against the occupying apartheid South African army had been spluttering indecisively since the 1960s. Why suddenly a bravura incursion of 2 000 soldiers, who probably had no idea what the game plan was, at a time when the whole world knew the war was over? Was the idea to make it seem as if Swapo had suddenly mustered the guile and muscle to send the high-tech, Western-sponsored South African army into ignominious retreat with a few AK-47s and a Stalin organ or two? Or was the idea, as some have suggested, to find a less-than-subtle way of getting rid of a few battalions of potential troublemakers who had been languishing restlessly in Swapo camps in Zambia and Angola for years, and who might turn out to be a Pandora’s box of unfinished business in the murky, mysterious politics of an emerging Namibia? Who might have a lot of uncomfortable and uncomplimentary things to say about their own leadership in the lead up to a period of triumphalist electioneering back on home soil geared to assuring Nujoma a clear run to the presidency?

Alas, poor Yorick and Co. Who were all those guys whose skulls have just been dug up anyway? Would anybody miss them? To Geldenhuys and his faceless masters in Pretoria (some of whom were to go on to win the Nobel Peace Prize in later years), they were just so many units of vaguely menacing vermin. To the UN, far removed among the wealthy towers of New York, they were abstract black pawns in a recently abandoned East-West power game. To the liberation movement, they were troublesome mouths to feed and clothe, the voice of the people taking on a life of its own of a kind that was never intended. Believe me, there were rebellions in all the Southern African liberation movement camps, the rank and swine, as they came to call themselves, champing at the bit in the face of leaderships that veered from indecisiveness to naked corruption.

So when Geldenhuys points a finger at Ahtisaari when mass graves are discovered in the Namibian wilderness and says, “Don’t ask me, ask him. I wasn’t there,” he is right in a sense -- although somewhat reticent and selective with the truth. The UN had claimed to be in charge of Namibia since about 1964, when a tousle-haired Russian diplomat from the UN secretariat landed at Windhoek airport in a timid-looking Cessna and declared that he was taking over the country from the South Africans in the name of the world body. He was given a swift and precise kick in the pants by the South Africans and told where he could go with his Cessna.

But from that time on, the UN blustered to the world about its authority over Namibia, based on some vague League of Nations mandate written up after the end of World War I, and stamped around talking about the occupying South African army and its vicious Koevoet and other special terror units like ineffectual prefects talking to an uninterested headmaster about bullies in the school playground. They never actually sent in any of the many military forces at their disposal to actually do anything about it -- as they would have done in the twink-ling of an eye if, say, the Russians had decided to occupy apartheid South Africa and free the people, or the Communist Chinese had invaded New Zealand to free the Maoris and the sheep from centuries-old oppression by British settlers.

When Geldenhuys says he and his boys were no longer in Namibia, so how could they have committed that appalling atrocity, he is being somewhat forgetful of the facts -- that South Africa had no intention of pulling out of Namibia until it absolutely had to. In fact, they were sticking their tongues out at the world community and waiting for the Swapo army to march in so that they could teach them a final, useless lesson they would never forget.

Except that the Swapo leadership did forget, and hoped that they would stay forgetful for a long time to come -- until some nosey parker dug up those bones and brought the whole shameful episode back to sickening life for all concerned.

Ahtisaari, meanwhile, is off on another mission of mercy to sort out more civil war atrocities in Bosnia. He just wishes he could forget about that whole sorry gang in that long-forgotten, brutal war for Namibia.