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Wednesday, 12.07.2006.

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Same old rhetoric from Koštunica in Washington

Vojislav Koštunica told US officials, like many times before, that Kosovo independence is not acceptable.

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haylee

pre 17 godina

@mike
nope. California, Texas and Arizona were ethnically cleansed very efficiently a century + ago. Only, there was no international community to bomb the americans then. They had all the time in the world to do a fine and thorough job at decimating the native population.

Mike Rossi

pre 17 godina

I think everyone is forgetting a key event in the history of Kosovo - the ethnic cleansing committed in 1999. The West, the US included, could care less who lived in the region first. They could care less about some "Illyrian" claim to the land, or that it was the heart and soul of the medieval Serbian kingdom. What the West sees is that one side committed atrocities against the other side, and that the region is populated by 90% Albanians, who were targetted by Milosevic's criminal gangs. Yes, unfortunately the Serbian people as a whole lose out, just as the Germans collectively lost in 1945 to Hitler's policies. I can't say this is morally right, but had the 1999 atrocities NOT happened, Serbia would be in a much better position to negotiate a reestablishment of autonomy and self-government. This situation has less to do with minority self-determination, and almost everything to do with conflict resolution after attempts at ethnic cleansings. The comparisons to California, Arizona and Texas do not apply because, to my knowledge, there is no ethnic cleanisng going on there.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

To former diplomats and all others; The way it sound that everybody is so sure that Kosova land was and is forever serbian. That is not true. Go back to Serbian Kingdom era and you will see how big geographicly Serbia was. The tru answer is there, don't go by what people wrote later on. Serach for the truth before commenting on fake books written by Serbian Academy of Science.

Agim Elshani

pre 17 godina

I have told you so before Koshtunica went to Washington that; He will not tell the truth to its people what Washington has told him during the meeting.

ALBANEZO

pre 17 godina

Every sober person would easily distinguish the paradox of comparison between America and Kosovo given by some previous writers.
Mr. Ex-diplomat an act of war is also when you take away someone’s Autonomy which has been guaranteed by Constitution. Also, bear in mind that Kosovo still has its own borders internationally recognised, which means automatically it has it's territorial integrity.
SFRJ does not exist anymore, and Srbia currently has no state status since the secession of Monte Negro.

ALBANEZO

pre 17 godina

Kosovo has it's own Police, Parliament, President, Government, Military, etc, I really dont know what's the best status for a place who has all these.
No Comment.

MIchael Yovanovich

pre 17 godina

While Kostunica's arguments may be characterized by some as the "same old rhetoric", it is the argument consistent with international law, and Serbs' cultural heritage which is not disposible. Serbia is not under Milosevic anymore, and as a democratic nation, our territory cannot be amputated because of threats from a national minority. As an American Serb, I assure you that under no circumstances would Arizona become independent, no matter what the Latino population there may demand one day should it become 90% of the total population, and America's cultural heritage found in New England will always remain American, regardless of what the region's population might one day desire. Amputation of territory from a democratic nation is simply unacceptable. When Milosevic fell from power, so did the Kosovar argument for independence.

Milan C.

pre 17 godina

I really don't understand either why the US needs Texas, Arizona or Florida, or for that matter why does Israel hold steadfast to Jerusalem? I quote President Putin, "colonialist states (WEST) justified their policies in Africa or in Asia. They talked of their civilizing role." Based on; Africa, Asia, Korea, Vietnam, Kashmir, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Grenada, Falklands, Somalia, Ethiopia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Ivory Coast, and any other conflict I failed to mention, the West maintains a horrid track record of deciding what's best for others. These conflicts drenched in the blood of innocent civilians from all ethnic, religious, and racial backgrounds is the essential by-product of Western Interventionism and manifest destiny.

doug chambers

pre 17 godina

As a former diplomat, I support the territorial integrity of the ancestral serbian land. Any imposed solution dismembering the country is an act of war against the country and should be resisted by all available means, similar to the action that the U.S would take should california, with it's large latino demographic opt for independance. It will be interesting to see how the U.S deals with this as they all too easily impose solutions on countries with little regard to a just solution. In fact I see the return of california to mexico as inevitable. Somehow I don't envision america easily negotiating its surrender.

doug chambers

pre 17 godina

As a former diplomat, I support the territorial integrity of the ancestral serbian land. Any imposed solution dismembering the country is an act of war against the country and should be resisted by all available means, similar to the action that the U.S would take should california, with it's large latino demographic opt for independance. It will be interesting to see how the U.S deals with this as they all too easily impose solutions on countries with little regard to a just solution. In fact I see the return of california to mexico as inevitable. Somehow I don't envision america easily negotiating its surrender.

Milan C.

pre 17 godina

I really don't understand either why the US needs Texas, Arizona or Florida, or for that matter why does Israel hold steadfast to Jerusalem? I quote President Putin, "colonialist states (WEST) justified their policies in Africa or in Asia. They talked of their civilizing role." Based on; Africa, Asia, Korea, Vietnam, Kashmir, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Grenada, Falklands, Somalia, Ethiopia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Ivory Coast, and any other conflict I failed to mention, the West maintains a horrid track record of deciding what's best for others. These conflicts drenched in the blood of innocent civilians from all ethnic, religious, and racial backgrounds is the essential by-product of Western Interventionism and manifest destiny.

MIchael Yovanovich

pre 17 godina

While Kostunica's arguments may be characterized by some as the "same old rhetoric", it is the argument consistent with international law, and Serbs' cultural heritage which is not disposible. Serbia is not under Milosevic anymore, and as a democratic nation, our territory cannot be amputated because of threats from a national minority. As an American Serb, I assure you that under no circumstances would Arizona become independent, no matter what the Latino population there may demand one day should it become 90% of the total population, and America's cultural heritage found in New England will always remain American, regardless of what the region's population might one day desire. Amputation of territory from a democratic nation is simply unacceptable. When Milosevic fell from power, so did the Kosovar argument for independence.

ALBANEZO

pre 17 godina

Kosovo has it's own Police, Parliament, President, Government, Military, etc, I really dont know what's the best status for a place who has all these.
No Comment.

ALBANEZO

pre 17 godina

Every sober person would easily distinguish the paradox of comparison between America and Kosovo given by some previous writers.
Mr. Ex-diplomat an act of war is also when you take away someone’s Autonomy which has been guaranteed by Constitution. Also, bear in mind that Kosovo still has its own borders internationally recognised, which means automatically it has it's territorial integrity.
SFRJ does not exist anymore, and Srbia currently has no state status since the secession of Monte Negro.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

To former diplomats and all others; The way it sound that everybody is so sure that Kosova land was and is forever serbian. That is not true. Go back to Serbian Kingdom era and you will see how big geographicly Serbia was. The tru answer is there, don't go by what people wrote later on. Serach for the truth before commenting on fake books written by Serbian Academy of Science.

Agim Elshani

pre 17 godina

I have told you so before Koshtunica went to Washington that; He will not tell the truth to its people what Washington has told him during the meeting.

Mike Rossi

pre 17 godina

I think everyone is forgetting a key event in the history of Kosovo - the ethnic cleansing committed in 1999. The West, the US included, could care less who lived in the region first. They could care less about some "Illyrian" claim to the land, or that it was the heart and soul of the medieval Serbian kingdom. What the West sees is that one side committed atrocities against the other side, and that the region is populated by 90% Albanians, who were targetted by Milosevic's criminal gangs. Yes, unfortunately the Serbian people as a whole lose out, just as the Germans collectively lost in 1945 to Hitler's policies. I can't say this is morally right, but had the 1999 atrocities NOT happened, Serbia would be in a much better position to negotiate a reestablishment of autonomy and self-government. This situation has less to do with minority self-determination, and almost everything to do with conflict resolution after attempts at ethnic cleansings. The comparisons to California, Arizona and Texas do not apply because, to my knowledge, there is no ethnic cleanisng going on there.

haylee

pre 17 godina

@mike
nope. California, Texas and Arizona were ethnically cleansed very efficiently a century + ago. Only, there was no international community to bomb the americans then. They had all the time in the world to do a fine and thorough job at decimating the native population.

doug chambers

pre 17 godina

As a former diplomat, I support the territorial integrity of the ancestral serbian land. Any imposed solution dismembering the country is an act of war against the country and should be resisted by all available means, similar to the action that the U.S would take should california, with it's large latino demographic opt for independance. It will be interesting to see how the U.S deals with this as they all too easily impose solutions on countries with little regard to a just solution. In fact I see the return of california to mexico as inevitable. Somehow I don't envision america easily negotiating its surrender.

Milan C.

pre 17 godina

I really don't understand either why the US needs Texas, Arizona or Florida, or for that matter why does Israel hold steadfast to Jerusalem? I quote President Putin, "colonialist states (WEST) justified their policies in Africa or in Asia. They talked of their civilizing role." Based on; Africa, Asia, Korea, Vietnam, Kashmir, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Grenada, Falklands, Somalia, Ethiopia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Ivory Coast, and any other conflict I failed to mention, the West maintains a horrid track record of deciding what's best for others. These conflicts drenched in the blood of innocent civilians from all ethnic, religious, and racial backgrounds is the essential by-product of Western Interventionism and manifest destiny.

MIchael Yovanovich

pre 17 godina

While Kostunica's arguments may be characterized by some as the "same old rhetoric", it is the argument consistent with international law, and Serbs' cultural heritage which is not disposible. Serbia is not under Milosevic anymore, and as a democratic nation, our territory cannot be amputated because of threats from a national minority. As an American Serb, I assure you that under no circumstances would Arizona become independent, no matter what the Latino population there may demand one day should it become 90% of the total population, and America's cultural heritage found in New England will always remain American, regardless of what the region's population might one day desire. Amputation of territory from a democratic nation is simply unacceptable. When Milosevic fell from power, so did the Kosovar argument for independence.

ALBANEZO

pre 17 godina

Kosovo has it's own Police, Parliament, President, Government, Military, etc, I really dont know what's the best status for a place who has all these.
No Comment.

ALBANEZO

pre 17 godina

Every sober person would easily distinguish the paradox of comparison between America and Kosovo given by some previous writers.
Mr. Ex-diplomat an act of war is also when you take away someone’s Autonomy which has been guaranteed by Constitution. Also, bear in mind that Kosovo still has its own borders internationally recognised, which means automatically it has it's territorial integrity.
SFRJ does not exist anymore, and Srbia currently has no state status since the secession of Monte Negro.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

To former diplomats and all others; The way it sound that everybody is so sure that Kosova land was and is forever serbian. That is not true. Go back to Serbian Kingdom era and you will see how big geographicly Serbia was. The tru answer is there, don't go by what people wrote later on. Serach for the truth before commenting on fake books written by Serbian Academy of Science.

Agim Elshani

pre 17 godina

I have told you so before Koshtunica went to Washington that; He will not tell the truth to its people what Washington has told him during the meeting.

Mike Rossi

pre 17 godina

I think everyone is forgetting a key event in the history of Kosovo - the ethnic cleansing committed in 1999. The West, the US included, could care less who lived in the region first. They could care less about some "Illyrian" claim to the land, or that it was the heart and soul of the medieval Serbian kingdom. What the West sees is that one side committed atrocities against the other side, and that the region is populated by 90% Albanians, who were targetted by Milosevic's criminal gangs. Yes, unfortunately the Serbian people as a whole lose out, just as the Germans collectively lost in 1945 to Hitler's policies. I can't say this is morally right, but had the 1999 atrocities NOT happened, Serbia would be in a much better position to negotiate a reestablishment of autonomy and self-government. This situation has less to do with minority self-determination, and almost everything to do with conflict resolution after attempts at ethnic cleansings. The comparisons to California, Arizona and Texas do not apply because, to my knowledge, there is no ethnic cleanisng going on there.

haylee

pre 17 godina

@mike
nope. California, Texas and Arizona were ethnically cleansed very efficiently a century + ago. Only, there was no international community to bomb the americans then. They had all the time in the world to do a fine and thorough job at decimating the native population.