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Tuesday, 27.06.2006.

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Koštunica allowed a personal visit to Kosovo

UNMIK accepted Vojislav Koštunica’s request to visit Kosovo, but strictly on personal and religious grounds.

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Christine

pre 17 godina

To E.Xhemaili and all Albanians, I never implied that all of you are terrorists and I deeply apologize if I offended any of you. I am only sending a warning to be cautious about whom gets to control the destiny of Kosovo. An economic, political and social base must be provided if an independent Kosovo is to sustain sovereignty. Where will this evolve from? My estimation is that it will be supported and guided through the influence of extreme Islam. I do acknowledge that Islam is a religion and that radical Islam is an ideology; the difference between practicing giving thanks to God and chopping off the heads of those who are of another ideology. But, as before, beware. The ideological side will infiltrate Kosovo with promises of heaven on earth while tugging at the heart strings of all Muslims because they will come bearing social programs to assist and elevate Muslims (only Muslims). Here in America our religious affiliations, such as the Catholic Church, will provide and assist all peoples, including Muslims. Tolerance vs, intolerance? You decide.

Free and Independent

pre 17 godina

Well, here we go again... Miloshevic hasn't died, yet, at least not his ideas. UN and Albanians were trying to show religious tolerance by allowing Koshtunica to visit Kosovo for religious reasons and they specifically instructed Kostunica to not turn it into a political trip but what does he do as soon as he comes to Kosovo?
He repeats the same thing that Miloshevic said in 1987 in the same place in Kosovo, that Kosovo will always be a part of Serbia (even 90% of the people in Kosovo don't trust Serbian leadership at all). But this to me shows how immature is Kostunica because his recent act only benefits Albanians and it renforces their belief that Serbian leadership is not be trusted.
In this case Kostunica lied and cheated UN just so he could make a political statement and used their most holy day to do this; it shows how much they care about their Serbian orthodoxy; it's just used for political purposes.

Milos

pre 17 godina

PAHA, clearly an independent Kosovo poses a risk to not only the Balkans but also Euro as a whole. Their highest official himself was involved in a terrorist organization.........

Mike Rossi

pre 17 godina

“We will be able to visit Serbia and its officials will be able to visit Kosovo once we have separated completely.” Berisa said.
Why does the K Albanian government think that everything will be OK and picture perfect only after independence? Do they honestly think that simply parroting "independence" over and over again will actually help normalize relations with Serbs or that suddenly independence will automatically create jobs, lower tensions, improve the economy, and deliver some utopian promised land? Serbs have been waiting for that since 2000 and their state is much more advanced than Kosovo. I'm not one to blindly support the Albanian or the Serb side, but I do think that if the K-Albanians want to create better relations with Serbs in whatever capacity Kosovo becomes, good relations will have to start NOW, not after whatever form of independence it gets. I love how Albanians have basically believed that Kosovo was an independent region since 1981. Wake up call! You're still part of Serbia, and if you want to break away from Serbia, face the realities of what is needed for secession and work with your larger neighbors. Good planning now, will yield a more peaceful future. And on that happy note, Happy Vidovdan to Serbs, Albanians, Hungarians, and Bosnians!

E.Xhemaili

pre 17 godina

To Christine:
Cc All the readers
Dont you dare speak in general and call the muslim people (especially albanians) terrorists! We are proud of being muslim, and we are proud of being what we are (very diverse in the faith, religion). Most of all WE ARE PROUD OF BEING ALBANIANS!

Christine

pre 17 godina

Beware Serbia. If Kosovo becomes independent, it will become an Islamic state and God help you all. Milan's comments are right on. Kosovo has been dictated by extreme Islamists for a long time. This was one reason why the Clinton administration took so long to decide to defend Bosnia and Kosovo because they were well aware of it's terrorist activity. Following the US embassy bombings in Africa, OSB was offered sanctuary in Bosnia. The US had a tough decision to make, do we not get involved and silently support our (I'm an American) long-time ally, Serbia, or give military support to our known enemy? Tough call. Now the world wants to punish Serbia and giving independence to Kosovo will definitely do just that. The world needs to understand the implications of another Islamic state, nothing against Muslims, but there is not an Islamic state that is not desparately trying to hold onto the 12th century while doing all that is possible to not progress and tolerate difference instead of destroing it. This is evident with Nikola's references to the burning of Christian churches. No tolerance.

Afrim Hoxha

pre 17 godina

Kostunica can visit Kosova as much as he wants to but, that will not help him anything at all.Kostunica chose to play the same way as Milosevic did, blaming the west.
Kostunica may think that by this visit he is gaining some political points, but in fact this is just showing to the world how a naive and cynical game Kostunica is trying to play. This also shows how he plays with the serbs too by trying to comfort them with a "private visit" to Kosova.
No matter of some individuals' backward thoughts, Kosova will move forward and become independent. In the other side, Serbia is still thinking if it should move forward or if it should move backward with the kind of leaders such Kostunica.
Therefore,due to the fact that Serbia is undecided if to move ahead or backward, neither Kosova nor Montenegro wanted to stay with Serbia so one became and the other is becoming independent. this is the reality, nobody wants to stay with a country like Serbia who thinks that they are the only ones right and the rest is wrong. Nobody wants to stay with a country like serbia who does not know what is good and what is bad, because the more time goes on the more the serbs are proving that they are not able to make a difference between the good and the bad, between the reality and the myths. If the montenegrin brothers did not want to stay together with serbia, how do you expect that we the albanians want to stay with you?
Thank you.

Aquarius

pre 17 godina

I think that once and for all, all the Balkan states should be left to chose their identity and not have it dictated by others. Look what Tito did to Yugoslavia and what Milosevic did after him. Yugoslavia was exclusionary for Albanians, as the name itself shows, and the Serbia under Milosevic’s rule was genocidal. Unless there is some acceptance by all sides of their own negative role in the wars there will be no forgiveness. "Ask, and thou shall be forgiven"

anonymous

pre 17 godina

subjective analysis based on stories and experineces of colleagues who worked there> alb population is more arrogant and impolite than serb. walking in gracanica is more tease-free than in pristina. albanians usually say some words between themselves and focus an unfriendly stare when they see an international (dont know if the words are good or bad but can tell from the facial reactions). serbs usually dont mind you and sometimes they smile at you. this is a fact.

J.Ham

pre 17 godina

Well the burning of the churches were wrong. Don't say they burned the mosque. Two wrongs do not make a right. They are blowing up the mosques and churches in Iraq. So please don't give me the religious cover. One day God will punish those who strive to interpet his words.

Gjon Buzuku

pre 17 godina

Thanks Tatiana for your greetings! And thanks to Kostunica too, for paying tributes to all those who lost their lives fighting against the Ottomans. This also includes Albanians, and their famous leader Gjergj Araniti, who fought in that battle in 1389 in the name of European Christianity. Remember that Christianity amongst Albanians is as old as it can get (not that it matters nowdays), and we are a good example of religious tolerance.
Gjon, Kosovë

armera

pre 17 godina

I heard the comments of Kosovar President made in Tirana today. He has nothing against this visit, and neither has the prime minister or his deputy. In fact UNMIK made this decision with a prior consultation of Kosovar government.
As a K-Albanian, I think it is OK for him to visit, however it would be a nice gesture if he would apologize to Albanians once in Kosova.
Peace out!

S. Harris

pre 17 godina

The Serbian diaspora respects and praises the decision of Serbia's Prime Minister, Vojislav Kostunica to visit Kosovo and Metohija on Vidovdan, and attend religious service on this most important date of the Serbian Orthodox Church calendar.

Peter Georgs

pre 17 godina

I think there is a lot of interest in the west to have a safe place for the kosovars. serbs would sooner or later try to move kosovars out of kosovo and they are not going to migrate in the first place to albania because of bad life conditions but to italy, greece, germany etc...

Branko Mileusnic

pre 17 godina

I was born in the UK and I'm a Serb. Kosovo is Serbian land and should not be granted independence, why on earth should Mr Kosunica have to ask permission to visit. International borders are fixed and if changed will open a whole can of worms. Kosovo and Bosnia are still the spring board for terrorism . Does that mean Britain should NOT have gone to fight for the Falklands, there's no difference.

Free and Independent

pre 17 godina

Albanians are considered peaceful... They breed people like Mother Teresa and Ibrahim Rugova who are often placed in the same category with Ghandi by many people and scholars. However, when a population, because of its small size, gets bullied around by a larger nation such as Serbia, then of course you are going to breed violence even in the most peaceful population.

MrKosova

pre 17 godina

Let's see if Kostunica will be able to enter the territory of Kosova tomorrow, by the No Negotiations, Self Determinations Movement!?!
Anyway, if I was Kostunica, for the sake of the reality, and for the good of Serbia and Serbian people, I would have declared the Independence of Kosova at the time of his presence in the new formed state, Kosova, and would have call for good relations of two states in the future.

Matthew Popovich

pre 17 godina

All other issues aside, whether Kosovo is independent or not, Serbs should be encouraged to visit their Holy sites if any kind of normalization is to take place. Trust needs to be built between the two sides, and this kind of political maneuvering only serves to aggravate tensions in the region. If conditions are placed on visitation, for whatever reasons, its only going to alienate the Serbs who should be encouraged to return to their homes. Its truly shocking to me that the international community is involved in such discrimination towards Serbians. We need actions that promote a healthy future for that area, not more reasons to bicker and argue. Serbs, at the very least, need the right to visit and worship as they please at some of their holiest sites. I honestly believe Serbs should be encouraged to move and settle in Kosovo if it can be done in a peaceful manner. Even a 4th generation Montenegrin-American like myself feels the pull of our Heartland Kosovo, I can only imagine what it feels like to a religious Serbian.

milan c.

pre 17 godina

The eternal cry of victimization by the Albanian majority is truely ridiculous. You would think by their continuous cries, that the war continues, and it does for it is in their hearts.
To all those who truely know nothing, but add their worthless pennies, why are the Kurds in Iraq not independent? After sustaining countless attacks by ground, air and of course gas warefare,by Iraq and Turkey (NATO)Kurds in Iraq should have been granted independence long ago. It's not even on the table, but yet, Kosovo independence is a foregone conclusion. Nothing new, it's the tactical and stragegic hypocracy of the West. Why is Iraq allowed the opportunity to prosecute Saddam, but yet Milosovic was sent to the Hague under the dog and pony show of the UN? The West will eventually spend billions of dollars to unravel this mess, for let us not forget, in 1992 prior to President "wag the dog" Clinton, the KLA was a considered a terrorist organization.

balkanupdate

pre 17 godina

It’s disingenuous for UNMIK to say this is a private visit. Nothing is going to stop Koshtunica from making political statements and bringing all the Serbian media with him. If this indeed a private visit, Serbian media should not be allowed to travel with him. This is more a campaign maneuver by Koshtunica, and he should be allowed to use Kosovo to that purpose. He has failed Serbian people in every aspect, and Kosovo is the only card he has to play with. Koshtunica is really Milosevic in sheep’s clothing.

tatiana stojkovic

pre 17 godina

im greeting my compatriots serbs and albanians a "happy vidovdan" tommorow. lets just remember the joint effort our forefathers did in fighting the ottomans on June 28, 1389 in the famous "battle of kosovo/a. although they lost the battle, they made history of cooperation.

Ammy Green

pre 17 godina

Related to the comment:
"It is remarkable how things change. Serbia a long time ago was terrorizing a whole nation in Kosovo and today K-Albanians are not stopping a Serbian leader visit their land, although he is aware of that terror and depsite the fact that he never apologized to K-Albanians for what Serbians have done there. K-Albanians are too peaceful...:) Well done.
(John Owens, 27 June 2006, 13:16)"
Thank you John for your excellent point, although i would avoid the term "too peaceful". Albanians are simply peaceful

J.Ham

pre 17 godina

Well i believe ask to come to show respect for the albanian citizens. Everyone is very interested in fueling the fire instead of trying to find a peaceful solution for all. It should not matter if you are from Africa or Asia, if you do not agree with the albanians then your are serb and vice versa. If people did not spend so much time in past instead of looking forward to the feature this business with Kosovo would have been settled along time ago. So you all can make all the demands you like, if the international community does not agree with deal then Kosovo will be still in the same situation. Let me see try violence as it was in Feb 2003 and the result will be restrictions on kosovo and the world will see again how things go in kosovo when one party does not get their way. I hear the promises of jobs, can someone please tell where is the investment, where are the products to export. There is none. I hear all this the mines in the north that will not sustain a goverment. So please if someone can respond and make sense of this

A concerned citizen from the US and i am not Serb nor Albanian

betabe

pre 17 godina

I don't know why people should discuss and put the Independence of Kosova as a topic. I really don't know, this happens only in Serbia and for other people who are uninformed. Kosova is not seeking, but is formally becoming independent, whether some people like it or not. This is not today's topic, this was the main topic from 1989 to 24 March 1999. I will stop here with hope that this religion-related visit becomes political related visit. Then we will know who is immature.

Noel Blackstone

pre 17 godina

I fully agree with John Owens. Obviously he is very informed. By comparison Mr Rodick has a very inadequate understanding of the status quo in the Balkans by comparing to terrorised Iraq and Afghanistan. Kosovo and Serbia as independent states with the rest of the Balkans are geografically part of Europe and also part of European Culture and are destined to become members of the EU soon. Serbia of course should apologize both to K-Albanians, Croats and Bosnians for their crimes in the 90is and look forward to joined membership of the EU. Noel Blackstone, England

john roddick

pre 17 godina

my dear albanians and serbians. this is a forum for everyone. becoming independent with hatred in your hearts will lead to future chaos like what is happening elsewhere iraq afghanistan etc.

John Owens

pre 17 godina

It is remarkable how things change. Serbia a long time ago was terrorizing a whole nation in Kosovo and today K-Albanians are not stopping a Serbian leader visit their land, although he is aware of that terror and depsite the fact that he never apologized to K-Albanians for what Serbians have done there. K-Albanians are too peaceful...:) Well done.

Philip Davies

pre 17 godina

Ahmet Isufi - It is very a peculiar trait of Kosovo Albanias to accuse anyone who doesn't have a Serbian name who opposes their views as actually being a Serb and using a pseudonym. Also the definition of a colony is "A region politically controlled by a *distant* country; a dependency." So not applicable to Kosovo.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

Mr. Omululu,
I would think that you are from AFRICAN CONTINENT, ACCORDING TO YOUR NAME, but is very puzzling that you have so much time in your hand to worry about southern Europe. Either your are not an african but simple serb and if you are african I think you should think about how it feels to be a colony. Why did africans fought just so as to be free in their homeland?

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

Mr. Omululu,
I would think that you are from AFRICAN CONTINENT, ACCORDING TO YOUR NAME, but is very puzzling that you have so much time in your hand to worry about southern Europe. Either your are not an african but simple serb and if you are african I think you should think about how it feels to be a colony. Why did africans fought just so as to be free in their homeland?

Philip Davies

pre 17 godina

Ahmet Isufi - It is very a peculiar trait of Kosovo Albanias to accuse anyone who doesn't have a Serbian name who opposes their views as actually being a Serb and using a pseudonym. Also the definition of a colony is "A region politically controlled by a *distant* country; a dependency." So not applicable to Kosovo.

John Owens

pre 17 godina

It is remarkable how things change. Serbia a long time ago was terrorizing a whole nation in Kosovo and today K-Albanians are not stopping a Serbian leader visit their land, although he is aware of that terror and depsite the fact that he never apologized to K-Albanians for what Serbians have done there. K-Albanians are too peaceful...:) Well done.

john roddick

pre 17 godina

my dear albanians and serbians. this is a forum for everyone. becoming independent with hatred in your hearts will lead to future chaos like what is happening elsewhere iraq afghanistan etc.

betabe

pre 17 godina

I don't know why people should discuss and put the Independence of Kosova as a topic. I really don't know, this happens only in Serbia and for other people who are uninformed. Kosova is not seeking, but is formally becoming independent, whether some people like it or not. This is not today's topic, this was the main topic from 1989 to 24 March 1999. I will stop here with hope that this religion-related visit becomes political related visit. Then we will know who is immature.

Noel Blackstone

pre 17 godina

I fully agree with John Owens. Obviously he is very informed. By comparison Mr Rodick has a very inadequate understanding of the status quo in the Balkans by comparing to terrorised Iraq and Afghanistan. Kosovo and Serbia as independent states with the rest of the Balkans are geografically part of Europe and also part of European Culture and are destined to become members of the EU soon. Serbia of course should apologize both to K-Albanians, Croats and Bosnians for their crimes in the 90is and look forward to joined membership of the EU. Noel Blackstone, England

Ammy Green

pre 17 godina

Related to the comment:
"It is remarkable how things change. Serbia a long time ago was terrorizing a whole nation in Kosovo and today K-Albanians are not stopping a Serbian leader visit their land, although he is aware of that terror and depsite the fact that he never apologized to K-Albanians for what Serbians have done there. K-Albanians are too peaceful...:) Well done.
(John Owens, 27 June 2006, 13:16)"
Thank you John for your excellent point, although i would avoid the term "too peaceful". Albanians are simply peaceful

J.Ham

pre 17 godina

Well i believe ask to come to show respect for the albanian citizens. Everyone is very interested in fueling the fire instead of trying to find a peaceful solution for all. It should not matter if you are from Africa or Asia, if you do not agree with the albanians then your are serb and vice versa. If people did not spend so much time in past instead of looking forward to the feature this business with Kosovo would have been settled along time ago. So you all can make all the demands you like, if the international community does not agree with deal then Kosovo will be still in the same situation. Let me see try violence as it was in Feb 2003 and the result will be restrictions on kosovo and the world will see again how things go in kosovo when one party does not get their way. I hear the promises of jobs, can someone please tell where is the investment, where are the products to export. There is none. I hear all this the mines in the north that will not sustain a goverment. So please if someone can respond and make sense of this

A concerned citizen from the US and i am not Serb nor Albanian

tatiana stojkovic

pre 17 godina

im greeting my compatriots serbs and albanians a "happy vidovdan" tommorow. lets just remember the joint effort our forefathers did in fighting the ottomans on June 28, 1389 in the famous "battle of kosovo/a. although they lost the battle, they made history of cooperation.

milan c.

pre 17 godina

The eternal cry of victimization by the Albanian majority is truely ridiculous. You would think by their continuous cries, that the war continues, and it does for it is in their hearts.
To all those who truely know nothing, but add their worthless pennies, why are the Kurds in Iraq not independent? After sustaining countless attacks by ground, air and of course gas warefare,by Iraq and Turkey (NATO)Kurds in Iraq should have been granted independence long ago. It's not even on the table, but yet, Kosovo independence is a foregone conclusion. Nothing new, it's the tactical and stragegic hypocracy of the West. Why is Iraq allowed the opportunity to prosecute Saddam, but yet Milosovic was sent to the Hague under the dog and pony show of the UN? The West will eventually spend billions of dollars to unravel this mess, for let us not forget, in 1992 prior to President "wag the dog" Clinton, the KLA was a considered a terrorist organization.

balkanupdate

pre 17 godina

It’s disingenuous for UNMIK to say this is a private visit. Nothing is going to stop Koshtunica from making political statements and bringing all the Serbian media with him. If this indeed a private visit, Serbian media should not be allowed to travel with him. This is more a campaign maneuver by Koshtunica, and he should be allowed to use Kosovo to that purpose. He has failed Serbian people in every aspect, and Kosovo is the only card he has to play with. Koshtunica is really Milosevic in sheep’s clothing.

Matthew Popovich

pre 17 godina

All other issues aside, whether Kosovo is independent or not, Serbs should be encouraged to visit their Holy sites if any kind of normalization is to take place. Trust needs to be built between the two sides, and this kind of political maneuvering only serves to aggravate tensions in the region. If conditions are placed on visitation, for whatever reasons, its only going to alienate the Serbs who should be encouraged to return to their homes. Its truly shocking to me that the international community is involved in such discrimination towards Serbians. We need actions that promote a healthy future for that area, not more reasons to bicker and argue. Serbs, at the very least, need the right to visit and worship as they please at some of their holiest sites. I honestly believe Serbs should be encouraged to move and settle in Kosovo if it can be done in a peaceful manner. Even a 4th generation Montenegrin-American like myself feels the pull of our Heartland Kosovo, I can only imagine what it feels like to a religious Serbian.

MrKosova

pre 17 godina

Let's see if Kostunica will be able to enter the territory of Kosova tomorrow, by the No Negotiations, Self Determinations Movement!?!
Anyway, if I was Kostunica, for the sake of the reality, and for the good of Serbia and Serbian people, I would have declared the Independence of Kosova at the time of his presence in the new formed state, Kosova, and would have call for good relations of two states in the future.

Free and Independent

pre 17 godina

Albanians are considered peaceful... They breed people like Mother Teresa and Ibrahim Rugova who are often placed in the same category with Ghandi by many people and scholars. However, when a population, because of its small size, gets bullied around by a larger nation such as Serbia, then of course you are going to breed violence even in the most peaceful population.

Branko Mileusnic

pre 17 godina

I was born in the UK and I'm a Serb. Kosovo is Serbian land and should not be granted independence, why on earth should Mr Kosunica have to ask permission to visit. International borders are fixed and if changed will open a whole can of worms. Kosovo and Bosnia are still the spring board for terrorism . Does that mean Britain should NOT have gone to fight for the Falklands, there's no difference.

Peter Georgs

pre 17 godina

I think there is a lot of interest in the west to have a safe place for the kosovars. serbs would sooner or later try to move kosovars out of kosovo and they are not going to migrate in the first place to albania because of bad life conditions but to italy, greece, germany etc...

S. Harris

pre 17 godina

The Serbian diaspora respects and praises the decision of Serbia's Prime Minister, Vojislav Kostunica to visit Kosovo and Metohija on Vidovdan, and attend religious service on this most important date of the Serbian Orthodox Church calendar.

armera

pre 17 godina

I heard the comments of Kosovar President made in Tirana today. He has nothing against this visit, and neither has the prime minister or his deputy. In fact UNMIK made this decision with a prior consultation of Kosovar government.
As a K-Albanian, I think it is OK for him to visit, however it would be a nice gesture if he would apologize to Albanians once in Kosova.
Peace out!

J.Ham

pre 17 godina

Well the burning of the churches were wrong. Don't say they burned the mosque. Two wrongs do not make a right. They are blowing up the mosques and churches in Iraq. So please don't give me the religious cover. One day God will punish those who strive to interpet his words.

Gjon Buzuku

pre 17 godina

Thanks Tatiana for your greetings! And thanks to Kostunica too, for paying tributes to all those who lost their lives fighting against the Ottomans. This also includes Albanians, and their famous leader Gjergj Araniti, who fought in that battle in 1389 in the name of European Christianity. Remember that Christianity amongst Albanians is as old as it can get (not that it matters nowdays), and we are a good example of religious tolerance.
Gjon, Kosovë

anonymous

pre 17 godina

subjective analysis based on stories and experineces of colleagues who worked there> alb population is more arrogant and impolite than serb. walking in gracanica is more tease-free than in pristina. albanians usually say some words between themselves and focus an unfriendly stare when they see an international (dont know if the words are good or bad but can tell from the facial reactions). serbs usually dont mind you and sometimes they smile at you. this is a fact.

Aquarius

pre 17 godina

I think that once and for all, all the Balkan states should be left to chose their identity and not have it dictated by others. Look what Tito did to Yugoslavia and what Milosevic did after him. Yugoslavia was exclusionary for Albanians, as the name itself shows, and the Serbia under Milosevic’s rule was genocidal. Unless there is some acceptance by all sides of their own negative role in the wars there will be no forgiveness. "Ask, and thou shall be forgiven"

Afrim Hoxha

pre 17 godina

Kostunica can visit Kosova as much as he wants to but, that will not help him anything at all.Kostunica chose to play the same way as Milosevic did, blaming the west.
Kostunica may think that by this visit he is gaining some political points, but in fact this is just showing to the world how a naive and cynical game Kostunica is trying to play. This also shows how he plays with the serbs too by trying to comfort them with a "private visit" to Kosova.
No matter of some individuals' backward thoughts, Kosova will move forward and become independent. In the other side, Serbia is still thinking if it should move forward or if it should move backward with the kind of leaders such Kostunica.
Therefore,due to the fact that Serbia is undecided if to move ahead or backward, neither Kosova nor Montenegro wanted to stay with Serbia so one became and the other is becoming independent. this is the reality, nobody wants to stay with a country like Serbia who thinks that they are the only ones right and the rest is wrong. Nobody wants to stay with a country like serbia who does not know what is good and what is bad, because the more time goes on the more the serbs are proving that they are not able to make a difference between the good and the bad, between the reality and the myths. If the montenegrin brothers did not want to stay together with serbia, how do you expect that we the albanians want to stay with you?
Thank you.

Christine

pre 17 godina

Beware Serbia. If Kosovo becomes independent, it will become an Islamic state and God help you all. Milan's comments are right on. Kosovo has been dictated by extreme Islamists for a long time. This was one reason why the Clinton administration took so long to decide to defend Bosnia and Kosovo because they were well aware of it's terrorist activity. Following the US embassy bombings in Africa, OSB was offered sanctuary in Bosnia. The US had a tough decision to make, do we not get involved and silently support our (I'm an American) long-time ally, Serbia, or give military support to our known enemy? Tough call. Now the world wants to punish Serbia and giving independence to Kosovo will definitely do just that. The world needs to understand the implications of another Islamic state, nothing against Muslims, but there is not an Islamic state that is not desparately trying to hold onto the 12th century while doing all that is possible to not progress and tolerate difference instead of destroing it. This is evident with Nikola's references to the burning of Christian churches. No tolerance.

E.Xhemaili

pre 17 godina

To Christine:
Cc All the readers
Dont you dare speak in general and call the muslim people (especially albanians) terrorists! We are proud of being muslim, and we are proud of being what we are (very diverse in the faith, religion). Most of all WE ARE PROUD OF BEING ALBANIANS!

Mike Rossi

pre 17 godina

“We will be able to visit Serbia and its officials will be able to visit Kosovo once we have separated completely.” Berisa said.
Why does the K Albanian government think that everything will be OK and picture perfect only after independence? Do they honestly think that simply parroting "independence" over and over again will actually help normalize relations with Serbs or that suddenly independence will automatically create jobs, lower tensions, improve the economy, and deliver some utopian promised land? Serbs have been waiting for that since 2000 and their state is much more advanced than Kosovo. I'm not one to blindly support the Albanian or the Serb side, but I do think that if the K-Albanians want to create better relations with Serbs in whatever capacity Kosovo becomes, good relations will have to start NOW, not after whatever form of independence it gets. I love how Albanians have basically believed that Kosovo was an independent region since 1981. Wake up call! You're still part of Serbia, and if you want to break away from Serbia, face the realities of what is needed for secession and work with your larger neighbors. Good planning now, will yield a more peaceful future. And on that happy note, Happy Vidovdan to Serbs, Albanians, Hungarians, and Bosnians!

Milos

pre 17 godina

PAHA, clearly an independent Kosovo poses a risk to not only the Balkans but also Euro as a whole. Their highest official himself was involved in a terrorist organization.........

Free and Independent

pre 17 godina

Well, here we go again... Miloshevic hasn't died, yet, at least not his ideas. UN and Albanians were trying to show religious tolerance by allowing Koshtunica to visit Kosovo for religious reasons and they specifically instructed Kostunica to not turn it into a political trip but what does he do as soon as he comes to Kosovo?
He repeats the same thing that Miloshevic said in 1987 in the same place in Kosovo, that Kosovo will always be a part of Serbia (even 90% of the people in Kosovo don't trust Serbian leadership at all). But this to me shows how immature is Kostunica because his recent act only benefits Albanians and it renforces their belief that Serbian leadership is not be trusted.
In this case Kostunica lied and cheated UN just so he could make a political statement and used their most holy day to do this; it shows how much they care about their Serbian orthodoxy; it's just used for political purposes.

Christine

pre 17 godina

To E.Xhemaili and all Albanians, I never implied that all of you are terrorists and I deeply apologize if I offended any of you. I am only sending a warning to be cautious about whom gets to control the destiny of Kosovo. An economic, political and social base must be provided if an independent Kosovo is to sustain sovereignty. Where will this evolve from? My estimation is that it will be supported and guided through the influence of extreme Islam. I do acknowledge that Islam is a religion and that radical Islam is an ideology; the difference between practicing giving thanks to God and chopping off the heads of those who are of another ideology. But, as before, beware. The ideological side will infiltrate Kosovo with promises of heaven on earth while tugging at the heart strings of all Muslims because they will come bearing social programs to assist and elevate Muslims (only Muslims). Here in America our religious affiliations, such as the Catholic Church, will provide and assist all peoples, including Muslims. Tolerance vs, intolerance? You decide.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 17 godina

Mr. Omululu,
I would think that you are from AFRICAN CONTINENT, ACCORDING TO YOUR NAME, but is very puzzling that you have so much time in your hand to worry about southern Europe. Either your are not an african but simple serb and if you are african I think you should think about how it feels to be a colony. Why did africans fought just so as to be free in their homeland?

Philip Davies

pre 17 godina

Ahmet Isufi - It is very a peculiar trait of Kosovo Albanias to accuse anyone who doesn't have a Serbian name who opposes their views as actually being a Serb and using a pseudonym. Also the definition of a colony is "A region politically controlled by a *distant* country; a dependency." So not applicable to Kosovo.

John Owens

pre 17 godina

It is remarkable how things change. Serbia a long time ago was terrorizing a whole nation in Kosovo and today K-Albanians are not stopping a Serbian leader visit their land, although he is aware of that terror and depsite the fact that he never apologized to K-Albanians for what Serbians have done there. K-Albanians are too peaceful...:) Well done.

john roddick

pre 17 godina

my dear albanians and serbians. this is a forum for everyone. becoming independent with hatred in your hearts will lead to future chaos like what is happening elsewhere iraq afghanistan etc.

betabe

pre 17 godina

I don't know why people should discuss and put the Independence of Kosova as a topic. I really don't know, this happens only in Serbia and for other people who are uninformed. Kosova is not seeking, but is formally becoming independent, whether some people like it or not. This is not today's topic, this was the main topic from 1989 to 24 March 1999. I will stop here with hope that this religion-related visit becomes political related visit. Then we will know who is immature.

Noel Blackstone

pre 17 godina

I fully agree with John Owens. Obviously he is very informed. By comparison Mr Rodick has a very inadequate understanding of the status quo in the Balkans by comparing to terrorised Iraq and Afghanistan. Kosovo and Serbia as independent states with the rest of the Balkans are geografically part of Europe and also part of European Culture and are destined to become members of the EU soon. Serbia of course should apologize both to K-Albanians, Croats and Bosnians for their crimes in the 90is and look forward to joined membership of the EU. Noel Blackstone, England

Ammy Green

pre 17 godina

Related to the comment:
"It is remarkable how things change. Serbia a long time ago was terrorizing a whole nation in Kosovo and today K-Albanians are not stopping a Serbian leader visit their land, although he is aware of that terror and depsite the fact that he never apologized to K-Albanians for what Serbians have done there. K-Albanians are too peaceful...:) Well done.
(John Owens, 27 June 2006, 13:16)"
Thank you John for your excellent point, although i would avoid the term "too peaceful". Albanians are simply peaceful

J.Ham

pre 17 godina

Well i believe ask to come to show respect for the albanian citizens. Everyone is very interested in fueling the fire instead of trying to find a peaceful solution for all. It should not matter if you are from Africa or Asia, if you do not agree with the albanians then your are serb and vice versa. If people did not spend so much time in past instead of looking forward to the feature this business with Kosovo would have been settled along time ago. So you all can make all the demands you like, if the international community does not agree with deal then Kosovo will be still in the same situation. Let me see try violence as it was in Feb 2003 and the result will be restrictions on kosovo and the world will see again how things go in kosovo when one party does not get their way. I hear the promises of jobs, can someone please tell where is the investment, where are the products to export. There is none. I hear all this the mines in the north that will not sustain a goverment. So please if someone can respond and make sense of this

A concerned citizen from the US and i am not Serb nor Albanian

tatiana stojkovic

pre 17 godina

im greeting my compatriots serbs and albanians a "happy vidovdan" tommorow. lets just remember the joint effort our forefathers did in fighting the ottomans on June 28, 1389 in the famous "battle of kosovo/a. although they lost the battle, they made history of cooperation.

milan c.

pre 17 godina

The eternal cry of victimization by the Albanian majority is truely ridiculous. You would think by their continuous cries, that the war continues, and it does for it is in their hearts.
To all those who truely know nothing, but add their worthless pennies, why are the Kurds in Iraq not independent? After sustaining countless attacks by ground, air and of course gas warefare,by Iraq and Turkey (NATO)Kurds in Iraq should have been granted independence long ago. It's not even on the table, but yet, Kosovo independence is a foregone conclusion. Nothing new, it's the tactical and stragegic hypocracy of the West. Why is Iraq allowed the opportunity to prosecute Saddam, but yet Milosovic was sent to the Hague under the dog and pony show of the UN? The West will eventually spend billions of dollars to unravel this mess, for let us not forget, in 1992 prior to President "wag the dog" Clinton, the KLA was a considered a terrorist organization.

balkanupdate

pre 17 godina

It’s disingenuous for UNMIK to say this is a private visit. Nothing is going to stop Koshtunica from making political statements and bringing all the Serbian media with him. If this indeed a private visit, Serbian media should not be allowed to travel with him. This is more a campaign maneuver by Koshtunica, and he should be allowed to use Kosovo to that purpose. He has failed Serbian people in every aspect, and Kosovo is the only card he has to play with. Koshtunica is really Milosevic in sheep’s clothing.

Matthew Popovich

pre 17 godina

All other issues aside, whether Kosovo is independent or not, Serbs should be encouraged to visit their Holy sites if any kind of normalization is to take place. Trust needs to be built between the two sides, and this kind of political maneuvering only serves to aggravate tensions in the region. If conditions are placed on visitation, for whatever reasons, its only going to alienate the Serbs who should be encouraged to return to their homes. Its truly shocking to me that the international community is involved in such discrimination towards Serbians. We need actions that promote a healthy future for that area, not more reasons to bicker and argue. Serbs, at the very least, need the right to visit and worship as they please at some of their holiest sites. I honestly believe Serbs should be encouraged to move and settle in Kosovo if it can be done in a peaceful manner. Even a 4th generation Montenegrin-American like myself feels the pull of our Heartland Kosovo, I can only imagine what it feels like to a religious Serbian.

MrKosova

pre 17 godina

Let's see if Kostunica will be able to enter the territory of Kosova tomorrow, by the No Negotiations, Self Determinations Movement!?!
Anyway, if I was Kostunica, for the sake of the reality, and for the good of Serbia and Serbian people, I would have declared the Independence of Kosova at the time of his presence in the new formed state, Kosova, and would have call for good relations of two states in the future.

Free and Independent

pre 17 godina

Albanians are considered peaceful... They breed people like Mother Teresa and Ibrahim Rugova who are often placed in the same category with Ghandi by many people and scholars. However, when a population, because of its small size, gets bullied around by a larger nation such as Serbia, then of course you are going to breed violence even in the most peaceful population.

Branko Mileusnic

pre 17 godina

I was born in the UK and I'm a Serb. Kosovo is Serbian land and should not be granted independence, why on earth should Mr Kosunica have to ask permission to visit. International borders are fixed and if changed will open a whole can of worms. Kosovo and Bosnia are still the spring board for terrorism . Does that mean Britain should NOT have gone to fight for the Falklands, there's no difference.

Peter Georgs

pre 17 godina

I think there is a lot of interest in the west to have a safe place for the kosovars. serbs would sooner or later try to move kosovars out of kosovo and they are not going to migrate in the first place to albania because of bad life conditions but to italy, greece, germany etc...

S. Harris

pre 17 godina

The Serbian diaspora respects and praises the decision of Serbia's Prime Minister, Vojislav Kostunica to visit Kosovo and Metohija on Vidovdan, and attend religious service on this most important date of the Serbian Orthodox Church calendar.

armera

pre 17 godina

I heard the comments of Kosovar President made in Tirana today. He has nothing against this visit, and neither has the prime minister or his deputy. In fact UNMIK made this decision with a prior consultation of Kosovar government.
As a K-Albanian, I think it is OK for him to visit, however it would be a nice gesture if he would apologize to Albanians once in Kosova.
Peace out!

J.Ham

pre 17 godina

Well the burning of the churches were wrong. Don't say they burned the mosque. Two wrongs do not make a right. They are blowing up the mosques and churches in Iraq. So please don't give me the religious cover. One day God will punish those who strive to interpet his words.

Gjon Buzuku

pre 17 godina

Thanks Tatiana for your greetings! And thanks to Kostunica too, for paying tributes to all those who lost their lives fighting against the Ottomans. This also includes Albanians, and their famous leader Gjergj Araniti, who fought in that battle in 1389 in the name of European Christianity. Remember that Christianity amongst Albanians is as old as it can get (not that it matters nowdays), and we are a good example of religious tolerance.
Gjon, Kosovë

anonymous

pre 17 godina

subjective analysis based on stories and experineces of colleagues who worked there> alb population is more arrogant and impolite than serb. walking in gracanica is more tease-free than in pristina. albanians usually say some words between themselves and focus an unfriendly stare when they see an international (dont know if the words are good or bad but can tell from the facial reactions). serbs usually dont mind you and sometimes they smile at you. this is a fact.

Aquarius

pre 17 godina

I think that once and for all, all the Balkan states should be left to chose their identity and not have it dictated by others. Look what Tito did to Yugoslavia and what Milosevic did after him. Yugoslavia was exclusionary for Albanians, as the name itself shows, and the Serbia under Milosevic’s rule was genocidal. Unless there is some acceptance by all sides of their own negative role in the wars there will be no forgiveness. "Ask, and thou shall be forgiven"

Afrim Hoxha

pre 17 godina

Kostunica can visit Kosova as much as he wants to but, that will not help him anything at all.Kostunica chose to play the same way as Milosevic did, blaming the west.
Kostunica may think that by this visit he is gaining some political points, but in fact this is just showing to the world how a naive and cynical game Kostunica is trying to play. This also shows how he plays with the serbs too by trying to comfort them with a "private visit" to Kosova.
No matter of some individuals' backward thoughts, Kosova will move forward and become independent. In the other side, Serbia is still thinking if it should move forward or if it should move backward with the kind of leaders such Kostunica.
Therefore,due to the fact that Serbia is undecided if to move ahead or backward, neither Kosova nor Montenegro wanted to stay with Serbia so one became and the other is becoming independent. this is the reality, nobody wants to stay with a country like Serbia who thinks that they are the only ones right and the rest is wrong. Nobody wants to stay with a country like serbia who does not know what is good and what is bad, because the more time goes on the more the serbs are proving that they are not able to make a difference between the good and the bad, between the reality and the myths. If the montenegrin brothers did not want to stay together with serbia, how do you expect that we the albanians want to stay with you?
Thank you.

Christine

pre 17 godina

Beware Serbia. If Kosovo becomes independent, it will become an Islamic state and God help you all. Milan's comments are right on. Kosovo has been dictated by extreme Islamists for a long time. This was one reason why the Clinton administration took so long to decide to defend Bosnia and Kosovo because they were well aware of it's terrorist activity. Following the US embassy bombings in Africa, OSB was offered sanctuary in Bosnia. The US had a tough decision to make, do we not get involved and silently support our (I'm an American) long-time ally, Serbia, or give military support to our known enemy? Tough call. Now the world wants to punish Serbia and giving independence to Kosovo will definitely do just that. The world needs to understand the implications of another Islamic state, nothing against Muslims, but there is not an Islamic state that is not desparately trying to hold onto the 12th century while doing all that is possible to not progress and tolerate difference instead of destroing it. This is evident with Nikola's references to the burning of Christian churches. No tolerance.

E.Xhemaili

pre 17 godina

To Christine:
Cc All the readers
Dont you dare speak in general and call the muslim people (especially albanians) terrorists! We are proud of being muslim, and we are proud of being what we are (very diverse in the faith, religion). Most of all WE ARE PROUD OF BEING ALBANIANS!

Mike Rossi

pre 17 godina

“We will be able to visit Serbia and its officials will be able to visit Kosovo once we have separated completely.” Berisa said.
Why does the K Albanian government think that everything will be OK and picture perfect only after independence? Do they honestly think that simply parroting "independence" over and over again will actually help normalize relations with Serbs or that suddenly independence will automatically create jobs, lower tensions, improve the economy, and deliver some utopian promised land? Serbs have been waiting for that since 2000 and their state is much more advanced than Kosovo. I'm not one to blindly support the Albanian or the Serb side, but I do think that if the K-Albanians want to create better relations with Serbs in whatever capacity Kosovo becomes, good relations will have to start NOW, not after whatever form of independence it gets. I love how Albanians have basically believed that Kosovo was an independent region since 1981. Wake up call! You're still part of Serbia, and if you want to break away from Serbia, face the realities of what is needed for secession and work with your larger neighbors. Good planning now, will yield a more peaceful future. And on that happy note, Happy Vidovdan to Serbs, Albanians, Hungarians, and Bosnians!

Milos

pre 17 godina

PAHA, clearly an independent Kosovo poses a risk to not only the Balkans but also Euro as a whole. Their highest official himself was involved in a terrorist organization.........

Free and Independent

pre 17 godina

Well, here we go again... Miloshevic hasn't died, yet, at least not his ideas. UN and Albanians were trying to show religious tolerance by allowing Koshtunica to visit Kosovo for religious reasons and they specifically instructed Kostunica to not turn it into a political trip but what does he do as soon as he comes to Kosovo?
He repeats the same thing that Miloshevic said in 1987 in the same place in Kosovo, that Kosovo will always be a part of Serbia (even 90% of the people in Kosovo don't trust Serbian leadership at all). But this to me shows how immature is Kostunica because his recent act only benefits Albanians and it renforces their belief that Serbian leadership is not be trusted.
In this case Kostunica lied and cheated UN just so he could make a political statement and used their most holy day to do this; it shows how much they care about their Serbian orthodoxy; it's just used for political purposes.

Christine

pre 17 godina

To E.Xhemaili and all Albanians, I never implied that all of you are terrorists and I deeply apologize if I offended any of you. I am only sending a warning to be cautious about whom gets to control the destiny of Kosovo. An economic, political and social base must be provided if an independent Kosovo is to sustain sovereignty. Where will this evolve from? My estimation is that it will be supported and guided through the influence of extreme Islam. I do acknowledge that Islam is a religion and that radical Islam is an ideology; the difference between practicing giving thanks to God and chopping off the heads of those who are of another ideology. But, as before, beware. The ideological side will infiltrate Kosovo with promises of heaven on earth while tugging at the heart strings of all Muslims because they will come bearing social programs to assist and elevate Muslims (only Muslims). Here in America our religious affiliations, such as the Catholic Church, will provide and assist all peoples, including Muslims. Tolerance vs, intolerance? You decide.