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The entry of Finland and Sweden into NATO is a mistake; Serbia should...

Professor of the Faculty of Political Sciences in Vienna Heinz Gärtner believes that the joining of Sweden and Finland to NATO was not a good idea.

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sj

pre 5 meseci

(EA, 9 November 2023 16:50)
The Russian casualty numbers are from western sources not my opinion. From one western source its 33,000 while another says it’s between 40,000 and 50,000 with about 50,000 wounded. Now both these numbers include the Donbas militias which fought before becoming part of the Russian forces.
In the case of Bakhmut, Wagner lost something like close to 10,000 soldiers while Ukraine lost 90,000. The reason for Wagners casualty numbers is because most were not professional troops but civilians, a lot were inmates from prisons, and they were taught one particular method of fighting and nothing else, plus Prigozhin was an idiot since the Russian command did not want to take Bakhmut at that time because of potential high casualty rates but it was Prigozhin who decided to attack Bakhmut and the Russian military then had to back Wagner.
“…Ukranian officers assessments.? That comes from various Ukrainian Telegram channels where Ukrainian military officers have said that NATO strategist have no idea how to fight a real war and that the Ukrainians know more than they do. You see the last time the US fought a real was during WW2. They have only “fought” small and defenceless countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan Libya etc. That is what gave the US the idea it was the best army in the world. Plus people like US Colonel Douglas McGregor, US Colonel Daniel Davies and Scott Ritter.

EA

pre 6 meseci

"Ukraine has now lost 3 armies to Russia."

"Death toll for Ukraine is 400,000 soldiers, 100,000 mercenaries or NATO troops and nearly 1,000 000 wounded."

"The average age of a Ukraine soldier is now 43."

Ukraine officers are saying that NATO strategists have no clues how to fight a real war.
(sj, 8 November 2023 23:09)

Sj, you are "great" in counting Ukrainan losses tell us how "great" are you in counting Russian losses...😉

Also who told you about "the Ukranian officers assessments..."? Russian Today?

Sturgis

pre 6 meseci

Comments,
There is no way Serbia could or would join NATO, ever! After being bombed by NATO, the Serb People never accept that, even though it would be the best decision Serbia ever made. On the other hand, NATO would laugh at the thought of ever allowing Serbia to be one of its members, for obvious reasons.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 meseci

Gartner,
You speak like a fool.
Especially during these times, there is no place for "neutrality". Every nation still retains their own voice.

And what if all of Europe was "neutral" to Hitler?

Don't sound so naive and foolish!

MORE of Europe in NATO is good. Why?
They have evil enemies facing them. Period.

D. Pardo

pre 6 meseci

Putin can say he has the most hypersonic weapons, etc, but then why is Russia begging Iran for their third rate drones. If b92 is going to make the kind of silly comments that up to now only sj made, how do they expect anyone to believe their nonsense.

Peggy

pre 6 meseci

Finland and Sweden joined NATO because of Russia threat. They decided to join NATO in a democratic way. These days anybody can express their opinion, no matter if they are right or wrong.
(of mice and men, 8 November 2023 18:51)
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What Russia threat?
They can only be threatened now that they basically declared war on Russia by joining NATO.
You say this was a democratic process? Well maybe as democratic as Montenegro joining NATO. Majority of citizens rejected NATO but the corrupt government got them into it anyway.

sj

pre 6 meseci

(EA, 8 November 2023 15:42)

Russia does not care about the Baltics, Finland or Sweden joining Santa’s workshop group let alone NATO. Ukraine is something different. They will never allow NATO to move in Russia’s underbelly.
Finland stopped being neutral once the Soviet Union collapsed. It had worked closely with NATO ever since, but why didn’t Finland hold a referendum, as it was promised to ask the people if they wanted to join NATO?????????? It was rigged just like in Montenegro and North Macedonia. Typical western democracy.

Here is the latest standing in terms of military power. Number 1 is RUSSIA. NATO has put everything in Ukraine and I mean everything. It supplied and trained the Ukraine army but now they are making the excuses Ukraine did not follow their strategy. They followed it and got wiped out. Ukraine has now lost 3 armies to Russia. Ukraine officers are saying that NATO strategists have no clues how to fight a real war.
Death toll for Ukraine is 400,000 soldiers, 100,000 mercenaries or NATO troops and nearly 1,000 000 wounded. The average age of a Ukraine soldier is now 43. When the war started for every Rusin soldier killed 8 Ukrainians died. Today its 1 Russian to 25 to 30 Ukrainians dead. It’s a slaughter on an unimaginable scale.
A loss in Ukraine means NATO is FINISHED.

of mice and men

pre 6 meseci

Finland and Sweden joined NATO because of Russia threat. They decided to join NATO in a democratic way. These days anybody can express their opinion, no matter if they are right or wrong.

Comments

pre 6 meseci

At the rate NATO says " yes " to any new country, Serbia could join NATO and say Kosovo being independent is a threat and have NATO and Serbia capture Kosovo. There seems to be nothing other than accept new members into NATO now

Diana

pre 6 meseci

There is only two options he says, neutrality or joining NATO, there is of course other options such as forming an alliance outside of Russia!! Finland promised its citizens a referendum on joining NATO which they then didn't allow. NATO and EU are fascist organisations.

Vivek

pre 6 meseci

NEW YORK, November 8. /TASS/. Russia outmatches the United States in terms of nuclear and hypersonic capabilities, US Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said.

"Russia outmatches us right now in the nuclear capabilities. They outmatch us in hypersonic missiles as well," Ramaswamy told his supporters in Miami, Florida.

He added that at this point, Russia is "in alliance with China."

Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolay Patrushev told the Rossiiskaya Gazeta in an earlier interview that Russia has cutting-edge modern weapons that can destroy every potential adversary, including the United States.

EA

pre 6 meseci

"I think that the joining of Sweden and Finland to NATO was not a good idea, because now Finland is changing its position as a neutral country and a buffer zone - to a NATO country.

Was it a good idea for Russia to invade parts of Ukraine?

Diana

pre 6 meseci

There is only two options he says, neutrality or joining NATO, there is of course other options such as forming an alliance outside of Russia!! Finland promised its citizens a referendum on joining NATO which they then didn't allow. NATO and EU are fascist organisations.

of mice and men

pre 6 meseci

Finland and Sweden joined NATO because of Russia threat. They decided to join NATO in a democratic way. These days anybody can express their opinion, no matter if they are right or wrong.

sj

pre 6 meseci

(EA, 8 November 2023 15:42)

Russia does not care about the Baltics, Finland or Sweden joining Santa’s workshop group let alone NATO. Ukraine is something different. They will never allow NATO to move in Russia’s underbelly.
Finland stopped being neutral once the Soviet Union collapsed. It had worked closely with NATO ever since, but why didn’t Finland hold a referendum, as it was promised to ask the people if they wanted to join NATO?????????? It was rigged just like in Montenegro and North Macedonia. Typical western democracy.

Here is the latest standing in terms of military power. Number 1 is RUSSIA. NATO has put everything in Ukraine and I mean everything. It supplied and trained the Ukraine army but now they are making the excuses Ukraine did not follow their strategy. They followed it and got wiped out. Ukraine has now lost 3 armies to Russia. Ukraine officers are saying that NATO strategists have no clues how to fight a real war.
Death toll for Ukraine is 400,000 soldiers, 100,000 mercenaries or NATO troops and nearly 1,000 000 wounded. The average age of a Ukraine soldier is now 43. When the war started for every Rusin soldier killed 8 Ukrainians died. Today its 1 Russian to 25 to 30 Ukrainians dead. It’s a slaughter on an unimaginable scale.
A loss in Ukraine means NATO is FINISHED.

Vivek

pre 6 meseci

NEW YORK, November 8. /TASS/. Russia outmatches the United States in terms of nuclear and hypersonic capabilities, US Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said.

"Russia outmatches us right now in the nuclear capabilities. They outmatch us in hypersonic missiles as well," Ramaswamy told his supporters in Miami, Florida.

He added that at this point, Russia is "in alliance with China."

Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolay Patrushev told the Rossiiskaya Gazeta in an earlier interview that Russia has cutting-edge modern weapons that can destroy every potential adversary, including the United States.

EA

pre 6 meseci

"I think that the joining of Sweden and Finland to NATO was not a good idea, because now Finland is changing its position as a neutral country and a buffer zone - to a NATO country.

Was it a good idea for Russia to invade parts of Ukraine?

Comments

pre 6 meseci

At the rate NATO says " yes " to any new country, Serbia could join NATO and say Kosovo being independent is a threat and have NATO and Serbia capture Kosovo. There seems to be nothing other than accept new members into NATO now

Peggy

pre 6 meseci

Finland and Sweden joined NATO because of Russia threat. They decided to join NATO in a democratic way. These days anybody can express their opinion, no matter if they are right or wrong.
(of mice and men, 8 November 2023 18:51)
=======================
What Russia threat?
They can only be threatened now that they basically declared war on Russia by joining NATO.
You say this was a democratic process? Well maybe as democratic as Montenegro joining NATO. Majority of citizens rejected NATO but the corrupt government got them into it anyway.

D. Pardo

pre 6 meseci

Putin can say he has the most hypersonic weapons, etc, but then why is Russia begging Iran for their third rate drones. If b92 is going to make the kind of silly comments that up to now only sj made, how do they expect anyone to believe their nonsense.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 meseci

Gartner,
You speak like a fool.
Especially during these times, there is no place for "neutrality". Every nation still retains their own voice.

And what if all of Europe was "neutral" to Hitler?

Don't sound so naive and foolish!

MORE of Europe in NATO is good. Why?
They have evil enemies facing them. Period.

Sturgis

pre 6 meseci

Comments,
There is no way Serbia could or would join NATO, ever! After being bombed by NATO, the Serb People never accept that, even though it would be the best decision Serbia ever made. On the other hand, NATO would laugh at the thought of ever allowing Serbia to be one of its members, for obvious reasons.

EA

pre 6 meseci

"Ukraine has now lost 3 armies to Russia."

"Death toll for Ukraine is 400,000 soldiers, 100,000 mercenaries or NATO troops and nearly 1,000 000 wounded."

"The average age of a Ukraine soldier is now 43."

Ukraine officers are saying that NATO strategists have no clues how to fight a real war.
(sj, 8 November 2023 23:09)

Sj, you are "great" in counting Ukrainan losses tell us how "great" are you in counting Russian losses...😉

Also who told you about "the Ukranian officers assessments..."? Russian Today?

sj

pre 5 meseci

(EA, 9 November 2023 16:50)
The Russian casualty numbers are from western sources not my opinion. From one western source its 33,000 while another says it’s between 40,000 and 50,000 with about 50,000 wounded. Now both these numbers include the Donbas militias which fought before becoming part of the Russian forces.
In the case of Bakhmut, Wagner lost something like close to 10,000 soldiers while Ukraine lost 90,000. The reason for Wagners casualty numbers is because most were not professional troops but civilians, a lot were inmates from prisons, and they were taught one particular method of fighting and nothing else, plus Prigozhin was an idiot since the Russian command did not want to take Bakhmut at that time because of potential high casualty rates but it was Prigozhin who decided to attack Bakhmut and the Russian military then had to back Wagner.
“…Ukranian officers assessments.? That comes from various Ukrainian Telegram channels where Ukrainian military officers have said that NATO strategist have no idea how to fight a real war and that the Ukrainians know more than they do. You see the last time the US fought a real was during WW2. They have only “fought” small and defenceless countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan Libya etc. That is what gave the US the idea it was the best army in the world. Plus people like US Colonel Douglas McGregor, US Colonel Daniel Davies and Scott Ritter.

EA

pre 6 meseci

"I think that the joining of Sweden and Finland to NATO was not a good idea, because now Finland is changing its position as a neutral country and a buffer zone - to a NATO country.

Was it a good idea for Russia to invade parts of Ukraine?

of mice and men

pre 6 meseci

Finland and Sweden joined NATO because of Russia threat. They decided to join NATO in a democratic way. These days anybody can express their opinion, no matter if they are right or wrong.

Diana

pre 6 meseci

There is only two options he says, neutrality or joining NATO, there is of course other options such as forming an alliance outside of Russia!! Finland promised its citizens a referendum on joining NATO which they then didn't allow. NATO and EU are fascist organisations.

Vivek

pre 6 meseci

NEW YORK, November 8. /TASS/. Russia outmatches the United States in terms of nuclear and hypersonic capabilities, US Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said.

"Russia outmatches us right now in the nuclear capabilities. They outmatch us in hypersonic missiles as well," Ramaswamy told his supporters in Miami, Florida.

He added that at this point, Russia is "in alliance with China."

Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolay Patrushev told the Rossiiskaya Gazeta in an earlier interview that Russia has cutting-edge modern weapons that can destroy every potential adversary, including the United States.

Comments

pre 6 meseci

At the rate NATO says " yes " to any new country, Serbia could join NATO and say Kosovo being independent is a threat and have NATO and Serbia capture Kosovo. There seems to be nothing other than accept new members into NATO now

sj

pre 6 meseci

(EA, 8 November 2023 15:42)

Russia does not care about the Baltics, Finland or Sweden joining Santa’s workshop group let alone NATO. Ukraine is something different. They will never allow NATO to move in Russia’s underbelly.
Finland stopped being neutral once the Soviet Union collapsed. It had worked closely with NATO ever since, but why didn’t Finland hold a referendum, as it was promised to ask the people if they wanted to join NATO?????????? It was rigged just like in Montenegro and North Macedonia. Typical western democracy.

Here is the latest standing in terms of military power. Number 1 is RUSSIA. NATO has put everything in Ukraine and I mean everything. It supplied and trained the Ukraine army but now they are making the excuses Ukraine did not follow their strategy. They followed it and got wiped out. Ukraine has now lost 3 armies to Russia. Ukraine officers are saying that NATO strategists have no clues how to fight a real war.
Death toll for Ukraine is 400,000 soldiers, 100,000 mercenaries or NATO troops and nearly 1,000 000 wounded. The average age of a Ukraine soldier is now 43. When the war started for every Rusin soldier killed 8 Ukrainians died. Today its 1 Russian to 25 to 30 Ukrainians dead. It’s a slaughter on an unimaginable scale.
A loss in Ukraine means NATO is FINISHED.

D. Pardo

pre 6 meseci

Putin can say he has the most hypersonic weapons, etc, but then why is Russia begging Iran for their third rate drones. If b92 is going to make the kind of silly comments that up to now only sj made, how do they expect anyone to believe their nonsense.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 meseci

Gartner,
You speak like a fool.
Especially during these times, there is no place for "neutrality". Every nation still retains their own voice.

And what if all of Europe was "neutral" to Hitler?

Don't sound so naive and foolish!

MORE of Europe in NATO is good. Why?
They have evil enemies facing them. Period.

EA

pre 6 meseci

"Ukraine has now lost 3 armies to Russia."

"Death toll for Ukraine is 400,000 soldiers, 100,000 mercenaries or NATO troops and nearly 1,000 000 wounded."

"The average age of a Ukraine soldier is now 43."

Ukraine officers are saying that NATO strategists have no clues how to fight a real war.
(sj, 8 November 2023 23:09)

Sj, you are "great" in counting Ukrainan losses tell us how "great" are you in counting Russian losses...😉

Also who told you about "the Ukranian officers assessments..."? Russian Today?

Peggy

pre 6 meseci

Finland and Sweden joined NATO because of Russia threat. They decided to join NATO in a democratic way. These days anybody can express their opinion, no matter if they are right or wrong.
(of mice and men, 8 November 2023 18:51)
=======================
What Russia threat?
They can only be threatened now that they basically declared war on Russia by joining NATO.
You say this was a democratic process? Well maybe as democratic as Montenegro joining NATO. Majority of citizens rejected NATO but the corrupt government got them into it anyway.

Sturgis

pre 6 meseci

Comments,
There is no way Serbia could or would join NATO, ever! After being bombed by NATO, the Serb People never accept that, even though it would be the best decision Serbia ever made. On the other hand, NATO would laugh at the thought of ever allowing Serbia to be one of its members, for obvious reasons.

sj

pre 5 meseci

(EA, 9 November 2023 16:50)
The Russian casualty numbers are from western sources not my opinion. From one western source its 33,000 while another says it’s between 40,000 and 50,000 with about 50,000 wounded. Now both these numbers include the Donbas militias which fought before becoming part of the Russian forces.
In the case of Bakhmut, Wagner lost something like close to 10,000 soldiers while Ukraine lost 90,000. The reason for Wagners casualty numbers is because most were not professional troops but civilians, a lot were inmates from prisons, and they were taught one particular method of fighting and nothing else, plus Prigozhin was an idiot since the Russian command did not want to take Bakhmut at that time because of potential high casualty rates but it was Prigozhin who decided to attack Bakhmut and the Russian military then had to back Wagner.
“…Ukranian officers assessments.? That comes from various Ukrainian Telegram channels where Ukrainian military officers have said that NATO strategist have no idea how to fight a real war and that the Ukrainians know more than they do. You see the last time the US fought a real was during WW2. They have only “fought” small and defenceless countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan Libya etc. That is what gave the US the idea it was the best army in the world. Plus people like US Colonel Douglas McGregor, US Colonel Daniel Davies and Scott Ritter.