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Tuesday, 19.09.2023.

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Shocking twist: Ukrainian missile caused market tragedy VIDEO

The New York Times announced that the information they have indicates that Ukraine, not Russia, is to blame for the massacre at the market in Kostyantynivka.

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OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS

pre 7 meseci

Betsy Lalich......
I answered your intital post with extracts fron the Guardian newspaper. Explain to us why your America can threaten the Solomin Islands if they invite China to establish a military base on the islands?? And those islands are some 7000 miles from your America.
Then explain why you think its ok for nato missiles on Russias border?? You think thats ok??
Using your bias logic, then why cant Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Jamaica, etc, invite China to build a base on their land..... i'm really curious to understand your logic and how you can justify it all.
And please, when you have no answer and are proved wrong, dont jusy whitewash it with a stupid sweeping statement that ignores my questions.
NB; if you provoke and corner anyone or anything, they will fight back. Now that your America/nato has provoked Russia, you see what happens. In a nutshell....if you provoke a bear and it bites you, dont blame the bear...
Do you get it Betsy....???

Tom Sawyer

pre 7 meseci

Yes, let us believe the insane nationalist maniacs on this site that are a pure disgrace.
The world will remember you. And hopefully Serbia rises above this nonsense.
(Betsy Lalich, 21 September 2023 04:44)

Thank you Betsy. Your self disclosure as an insane USA ultra nationalist, who portrays the genocide of more than 3 million Vietnamese simply as a done in “US interests” is indeed maniacal.
The world, or at least the commenters on B92 English, will indeed remember you.
I do agree that Serbia and her brave people will rise above your insane American nationalism.

Peter Sudyka

pre 7 meseci

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS and Peggy

I don't condone the shelling of unarmed civilians by anyone, but even if that number is correct, that's still only 10% of the amount of Chechen civilians killed in the 1st and 2nd Chechen wars.

"Still, none of this would have happened if Nuland and the USA didn't orchestrate a violent coup in 2014 against a democratically elected government in the country to begin with.
(Tim Sawyer, 20 September 2023 18:33)"

This democratically elected government was led by a common criminal that was arrested twice of robbery and assault.

Him and his criminal family stole $100-billion worth of state funds, stashing nearly $40-billion of that in foreign bank accounts and spent nearly $10-million just on renovating his humble Mezhyhirya dacha.

Finally, in 2010 he said: "Ukraine's integration with the EU remains our strategic aim". In 2013 he changed his mind because Russia put pressure on Ukraine to reject the EU Association Agreement and restricted Ukrainian imports to pressure the country.

So he robbed the country blind and lied to his people, who were tired of living in a Russian-style oligarch state, where a couple of rich uncles in suits have it great while the average wage was less than 100 euro per month, where the minimum wage is now 160 euro.

And you still say that "Nuland and the USA didn't orchestrate a violent coup in 2014"? Get a clue, mate.

Betsy Lalich

pre 7 meseci

Yes, let us believe the insane nationalist maniacs on this site that are a pure disgrace.
The world will remember you. And hopefully Serbia rises above this nonsense.

Peggy

pre 7 meseci

Regardless of what happened, 15 people are dead and 30 are wounded. If this was a Ukrainian AA missile, then this is truly a tragedy. Still, none of this would have happened if Russia didn't attack the country to begin with.
(Peter Sudyka, 20 September 2023 15:20)
======================
But 14,000 dead Russians from 2014 to special operation by Russia is ok?
This 14,000 includes women and children so worse would've happened if allowed to continue.
Funny how you just brush this aside as if Ukraine had no control over where they shoot.

Tim Sawyer

pre 7 meseci

(Peter Sudyka, 20 September 2023 15:20)

Thank you Peter. Please note a few typos to support your argument.
Regardless of what happened, 15 people are dead and 30 are wounded. If this was a Ukrainian directed missile, then this is truly a crime. Still, none of this would have happened if Nuland and the USA didn't orchestrate a violent coup in 2014 against a democratically elected government in the country to begin with.

Sj

pre 7 meseci

I recall the market event in Sarajevo where Serbs were blamed but a UN investigation clearly indicated that the mortar shells were fired from within Sarajevo. Funny how the US managed to bury that report.
It's getting more and more difficult for the US to point the find at someone else.

Tom Sawyer

pre 7 meseci

Tommy,
What is MSM ?
(Deleted some of Betsy’s nonsense about a cave and politburo)
where you are reporting from.
(Betsy Lalich, 20 September 2023 14:12)

MSM stands for mainstream media. I hope I have helped to open your eyes to common acronyms. Please feel free to ask about more.
I am not a “reporter”.
I do however read vociferously. I also attend lectures and have been to the greater Chicago area often, and lived on both sides of the Mississippi River. May I personally recommend that you attend a lecture or follow the readings of Professor John Mearsheimer. John is a highly respected researcher and academic.

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS

pre 7 meseci

Betsy Lalich....
Extract from Guardian newspaper 26/4/2022....

"One of the most senior US officials in the Pacific has refused to rule out military action against the Solomon Islands if it were to allow China to establish a military base there, saying that the security deal between the countries presented "potential regional security implications" for the US and other allies".

NB; Solomon Islands are approx 7000 miles away from America.
Nato promised Moscow that it would not expand an inch to the east (which proved to be a lie).
So, Betsy, tell us why you think its ok for nato missiles on Russias border?? Why is it ok for Kiev to p*ss on their signed agreements with Russia on neutrality..??

Betsy, are you just simply stupid? Are you that brainwashed?
Explain the US threats to the Solomon Islands. You think thats ok?
Sometimes I ask myself why I bother with dummies like you....

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS

pre 7 meseci

Peter Sudyka.......
Yes, tragedy it is.
Still, none of this would have happened had Kiev honoured their signed agreements with Moscow re: neutrality.......!!!!
Still, none of this would have happened has the Ukrainian azov division not killed 15000 civilians in east Ukraine since 2014.....!!!
Still, none of this would have happened had the Americans not paid for and organised the 2014 coup (listen to Victoria Nuland leaked phone conversation with US ambassador to Ukraine)...!!!!
Still, none of this would have happened had Boris Johnson not scuppered an agreement between Kiev and Moscow in April 2022....!!!

Peter Sudyka....why dont you start at the beggining of this tragic conflict...??? Why do ignore the above points which brought on the war....???
Why do you lie so much...????

Peter Sudyka

pre 7 meseci

Regardless of what happened, 15 people are dead and 30 are wounded. If this was a Ukrainian AA missile, then this is truly a tragedy. Still, none of this would have happened if Russia didn't attack the country to begin with.

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS

pre 7 meseci

Lydia Porchenko.......
B92 did not "invent" this story. B92 is merely covering news of a story published by NY Times.
The point you make is also a bit naive, silly and one sided. Tell us who provides news updates from the front line....? The wests media is fed info by Kiev, and only Kiev. And you think this is even handed and the truth...??...lol....
I suspect you are Ukrainian and of course I understand your bias view.
But you must admitt that if Kiev had honoured the signed agreements with Russia on neutrality this war would not have happened. You can say what you wish but that is a fact.. And by the way Lydia, how would America like it if Canada, Mexico, Jamaica, Cuba, etc, decided to invite Indian military bases on their land?? Or Chinese or Russian???
And please dont deny the Azov division bombarding east Ukraine since 2014 with apprx 15000 civilian deaths. Where was your condemnation of those Azov actions???
I'll also tell you that less than 50 nations have sanctioned Russia. And there are over 190 UN member states....
No Lydia, Putin is telling the truth. You should look at your own leadership in Kiev as to why this is happening. And Ukraine will not defeat Russia, take my word on that.

Betsy Lalich

pre 7 meseci

Tommy,
What is MSM ?
Surely not the cave with a wire reaching directly to Putin's politburo, where you are reporting from.

Sydney Man

pre 7 meseci

As usual b92 is publishing outright lies in order to obfuscate what really happened. Please notice all sources were unnamed. The New York Times does not report from the war zone. This is another attempt by Putin and his allies to cover up his crimes against humanity.
(Lydia Porchenko, 19 September 2023 11:22

To Lydia Porchenko these are the Journalists reporting from war Zone for New York times ))
* Carlotta Gall
* Valerie Hopkins
* Lynsey Addario
* Anton Troianovski
So when Russia attacks cilivan population then it's real ,but when Ukraine attacks its own ciivan population then it's or fake in your propaganda eyes ))))
This comes from Independent New York times, not Moscow times )))
Stop being brainwashed by your Comedian President and ask why are your Priests ,Monks ,nuns of the Ukraine Orthodox Church in prison ??
Why has Zelensky changed Christmas or Easter dates for the population?? Even Communists couldn't do this in 70 yrars ,Zelensky did this in 2 years )).
You have a ruthless dictator in power in Kyiv who even threaten your Kyiv Mayor Klitschko to be send to prison for questioning where has the donation money for Kyiv city gone ???
STOP listening to NATO CCN AND BBC NEWS)))
I really hope B92 publish my comment ,please.

Peggy

pre 7 meseci

Targeting your own in order to get a reaction and possibly retaliation by the US works. Well, this time maybe it didn't.
Reminds me of Markale and Racak. Both staged but Markale actually was the Muslim side which did it.

Tom Sawyer

pre 8 meseci

That Ukraine-Na*is target their own residents is not news. The murderous Bandera-loving junta installed by Nuland in 2014, have been killing their own citizens for over 9 years. The video showing the reflection of the missle was published by Russian media on the day of the event. The NYT and western MSM could not drown out these facts, and now attempt to whitewash the killing of citizens with ridiculous claims of “error”. This city and region is composed of a population where there is strong support for Russia. Ukro-na*is kill their own citizens.

Lydia Porchenko

pre 8 meseci

As usual b92 is publishing outright lies in order to obfuscate what really happened. Please notice all sources were unnamed. The New York Times does not report from the war zone. This is another attempt by Putin and his allies to cover up his crimes against humanity.

Tom Sawyer

pre 8 meseci

That Ukraine-Na*is target their own residents is not news. The murderous Bandera-loving junta installed by Nuland in 2014, have been killing their own citizens for over 9 years. The video showing the reflection of the missle was published by Russian media on the day of the event. The NYT and western MSM could not drown out these facts, and now attempt to whitewash the killing of citizens with ridiculous claims of “error”. This city and region is composed of a population where there is strong support for Russia. Ukro-na*is kill their own citizens.

Peggy

pre 7 meseci

Targeting your own in order to get a reaction and possibly retaliation by the US works. Well, this time maybe it didn't.
Reminds me of Markale and Racak. Both staged but Markale actually was the Muslim side which did it.

Sydney Man

pre 7 meseci

As usual b92 is publishing outright lies in order to obfuscate what really happened. Please notice all sources were unnamed. The New York Times does not report from the war zone. This is another attempt by Putin and his allies to cover up his crimes against humanity.
(Lydia Porchenko, 19 September 2023 11:22

To Lydia Porchenko these are the Journalists reporting from war Zone for New York times ))
* Carlotta Gall
* Valerie Hopkins
* Lynsey Addario
* Anton Troianovski
So when Russia attacks cilivan population then it's real ,but when Ukraine attacks its own ciivan population then it's or fake in your propaganda eyes ))))
This comes from Independent New York times, not Moscow times )))
Stop being brainwashed by your Comedian President and ask why are your Priests ,Monks ,nuns of the Ukraine Orthodox Church in prison ??
Why has Zelensky changed Christmas or Easter dates for the population?? Even Communists couldn't do this in 70 yrars ,Zelensky did this in 2 years )).
You have a ruthless dictator in power in Kyiv who even threaten your Kyiv Mayor Klitschko to be send to prison for questioning where has the donation money for Kyiv city gone ???
STOP listening to NATO CCN AND BBC NEWS)))
I really hope B92 publish my comment ,please.

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS

pre 7 meseci

Lydia Porchenko.......
B92 did not "invent" this story. B92 is merely covering news of a story published by NY Times.
The point you make is also a bit naive, silly and one sided. Tell us who provides news updates from the front line....? The wests media is fed info by Kiev, and only Kiev. And you think this is even handed and the truth...??...lol....
I suspect you are Ukrainian and of course I understand your bias view.
But you must admitt that if Kiev had honoured the signed agreements with Russia on neutrality this war would not have happened. You can say what you wish but that is a fact.. And by the way Lydia, how would America like it if Canada, Mexico, Jamaica, Cuba, etc, decided to invite Indian military bases on their land?? Or Chinese or Russian???
And please dont deny the Azov division bombarding east Ukraine since 2014 with apprx 15000 civilian deaths. Where was your condemnation of those Azov actions???
I'll also tell you that less than 50 nations have sanctioned Russia. And there are over 190 UN member states....
No Lydia, Putin is telling the truth. You should look at your own leadership in Kiev as to why this is happening. And Ukraine will not defeat Russia, take my word on that.

Tim Sawyer

pre 7 meseci

(Peter Sudyka, 20 September 2023 15:20)

Thank you Peter. Please note a few typos to support your argument.
Regardless of what happened, 15 people are dead and 30 are wounded. If this was a Ukrainian directed missile, then this is truly a crime. Still, none of this would have happened if Nuland and the USA didn't orchestrate a violent coup in 2014 against a democratically elected government in the country to begin with.

Tom Sawyer

pre 7 meseci

Yes, let us believe the insane nationalist maniacs on this site that are a pure disgrace.
The world will remember you. And hopefully Serbia rises above this nonsense.
(Betsy Lalich, 21 September 2023 04:44)

Thank you Betsy. Your self disclosure as an insane USA ultra nationalist, who portrays the genocide of more than 3 million Vietnamese simply as a done in “US interests” is indeed maniacal.
The world, or at least the commenters on B92 English, will indeed remember you.
I do agree that Serbia and her brave people will rise above your insane American nationalism.

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS

pre 7 meseci

Betsy Lalich......
I answered your intital post with extracts fron the Guardian newspaper. Explain to us why your America can threaten the Solomin Islands if they invite China to establish a military base on the islands?? And those islands are some 7000 miles from your America.
Then explain why you think its ok for nato missiles on Russias border?? You think thats ok??
Using your bias logic, then why cant Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Jamaica, etc, invite China to build a base on their land..... i'm really curious to understand your logic and how you can justify it all.
And please, when you have no answer and are proved wrong, dont jusy whitewash it with a stupid sweeping statement that ignores my questions.
NB; if you provoke and corner anyone or anything, they will fight back. Now that your America/nato has provoked Russia, you see what happens. In a nutshell....if you provoke a bear and it bites you, dont blame the bear...
Do you get it Betsy....???

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS

pre 7 meseci

Peter Sudyka.......
Yes, tragedy it is.
Still, none of this would have happened had Kiev honoured their signed agreements with Moscow re: neutrality.......!!!!
Still, none of this would have happened has the Ukrainian azov division not killed 15000 civilians in east Ukraine since 2014.....!!!
Still, none of this would have happened had the Americans not paid for and organised the 2014 coup (listen to Victoria Nuland leaked phone conversation with US ambassador to Ukraine)...!!!!
Still, none of this would have happened had Boris Johnson not scuppered an agreement between Kiev and Moscow in April 2022....!!!

Peter Sudyka....why dont you start at the beggining of this tragic conflict...??? Why do ignore the above points which brought on the war....???
Why do you lie so much...????

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS

pre 7 meseci

Betsy Lalich....
Extract from Guardian newspaper 26/4/2022....

"One of the most senior US officials in the Pacific has refused to rule out military action against the Solomon Islands if it were to allow China to establish a military base there, saying that the security deal between the countries presented "potential regional security implications" for the US and other allies".

NB; Solomon Islands are approx 7000 miles away from America.
Nato promised Moscow that it would not expand an inch to the east (which proved to be a lie).
So, Betsy, tell us why you think its ok for nato missiles on Russias border?? Why is it ok for Kiev to p*ss on their signed agreements with Russia on neutrality..??

Betsy, are you just simply stupid? Are you that brainwashed?
Explain the US threats to the Solomon Islands. You think thats ok?
Sometimes I ask myself why I bother with dummies like you....

Tom Sawyer

pre 7 meseci

Tommy,
What is MSM ?
(Deleted some of Betsy’s nonsense about a cave and politburo)
where you are reporting from.
(Betsy Lalich, 20 September 2023 14:12)

MSM stands for mainstream media. I hope I have helped to open your eyes to common acronyms. Please feel free to ask about more.
I am not a “reporter”.
I do however read vociferously. I also attend lectures and have been to the greater Chicago area often, and lived on both sides of the Mississippi River. May I personally recommend that you attend a lecture or follow the readings of Professor John Mearsheimer. John is a highly respected researcher and academic.

Lydia Porchenko

pre 8 meseci

As usual b92 is publishing outright lies in order to obfuscate what really happened. Please notice all sources were unnamed. The New York Times does not report from the war zone. This is another attempt by Putin and his allies to cover up his crimes against humanity.

Sj

pre 7 meseci

I recall the market event in Sarajevo where Serbs were blamed but a UN investigation clearly indicated that the mortar shells were fired from within Sarajevo. Funny how the US managed to bury that report.
It's getting more and more difficult for the US to point the find at someone else.

Peggy

pre 7 meseci

Regardless of what happened, 15 people are dead and 30 are wounded. If this was a Ukrainian AA missile, then this is truly a tragedy. Still, none of this would have happened if Russia didn't attack the country to begin with.
(Peter Sudyka, 20 September 2023 15:20)
======================
But 14,000 dead Russians from 2014 to special operation by Russia is ok?
This 14,000 includes women and children so worse would've happened if allowed to continue.
Funny how you just brush this aside as if Ukraine had no control over where they shoot.

Peter Sudyka

pre 7 meseci

Regardless of what happened, 15 people are dead and 30 are wounded. If this was a Ukrainian AA missile, then this is truly a tragedy. Still, none of this would have happened if Russia didn't attack the country to begin with.

Betsy Lalich

pre 7 meseci

Tommy,
What is MSM ?
Surely not the cave with a wire reaching directly to Putin's politburo, where you are reporting from.

Betsy Lalich

pre 7 meseci

Yes, let us believe the insane nationalist maniacs on this site that are a pure disgrace.
The world will remember you. And hopefully Serbia rises above this nonsense.

Peter Sudyka

pre 7 meseci

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS and Peggy

I don't condone the shelling of unarmed civilians by anyone, but even if that number is correct, that's still only 10% of the amount of Chechen civilians killed in the 1st and 2nd Chechen wars.

"Still, none of this would have happened if Nuland and the USA didn't orchestrate a violent coup in 2014 against a democratically elected government in the country to begin with.
(Tim Sawyer, 20 September 2023 18:33)"

This democratically elected government was led by a common criminal that was arrested twice of robbery and assault.

Him and his criminal family stole $100-billion worth of state funds, stashing nearly $40-billion of that in foreign bank accounts and spent nearly $10-million just on renovating his humble Mezhyhirya dacha.

Finally, in 2010 he said: "Ukraine's integration with the EU remains our strategic aim". In 2013 he changed his mind because Russia put pressure on Ukraine to reject the EU Association Agreement and restricted Ukrainian imports to pressure the country.

So he robbed the country blind and lied to his people, who were tired of living in a Russian-style oligarch state, where a couple of rich uncles in suits have it great while the average wage was less than 100 euro per month, where the minimum wage is now 160 euro.

And you still say that "Nuland and the USA didn't orchestrate a violent coup in 2014"? Get a clue, mate.

Lydia Porchenko

pre 8 meseci

As usual b92 is publishing outright lies in order to obfuscate what really happened. Please notice all sources were unnamed. The New York Times does not report from the war zone. This is another attempt by Putin and his allies to cover up his crimes against humanity.

Peter Sudyka

pre 7 meseci

Regardless of what happened, 15 people are dead and 30 are wounded. If this was a Ukrainian AA missile, then this is truly a tragedy. Still, none of this would have happened if Russia didn't attack the country to begin with.

Betsy Lalich

pre 7 meseci

Tommy,
What is MSM ?
Surely not the cave with a wire reaching directly to Putin's politburo, where you are reporting from.

Betsy Lalich

pre 7 meseci

Yes, let us believe the insane nationalist maniacs on this site that are a pure disgrace.
The world will remember you. And hopefully Serbia rises above this nonsense.

Tom Sawyer

pre 8 meseci

That Ukraine-Na*is target their own residents is not news. The murderous Bandera-loving junta installed by Nuland in 2014, have been killing their own citizens for over 9 years. The video showing the reflection of the missle was published by Russian media on the day of the event. The NYT and western MSM could not drown out these facts, and now attempt to whitewash the killing of citizens with ridiculous claims of “error”. This city and region is composed of a population where there is strong support for Russia. Ukro-na*is kill their own citizens.

Peggy

pre 7 meseci

Targeting your own in order to get a reaction and possibly retaliation by the US works. Well, this time maybe it didn't.
Reminds me of Markale and Racak. Both staged but Markale actually was the Muslim side which did it.

Sydney Man

pre 7 meseci

As usual b92 is publishing outright lies in order to obfuscate what really happened. Please notice all sources were unnamed. The New York Times does not report from the war zone. This is another attempt by Putin and his allies to cover up his crimes against humanity.
(Lydia Porchenko, 19 September 2023 11:22

To Lydia Porchenko these are the Journalists reporting from war Zone for New York times ))
* Carlotta Gall
* Valerie Hopkins
* Lynsey Addario
* Anton Troianovski
So when Russia attacks cilivan population then it's real ,but when Ukraine attacks its own ciivan population then it's or fake in your propaganda eyes ))))
This comes from Independent New York times, not Moscow times )))
Stop being brainwashed by your Comedian President and ask why are your Priests ,Monks ,nuns of the Ukraine Orthodox Church in prison ??
Why has Zelensky changed Christmas or Easter dates for the population?? Even Communists couldn't do this in 70 yrars ,Zelensky did this in 2 years )).
You have a ruthless dictator in power in Kyiv who even threaten your Kyiv Mayor Klitschko to be send to prison for questioning where has the donation money for Kyiv city gone ???
STOP listening to NATO CCN AND BBC NEWS)))
I really hope B92 publish my comment ,please.

Peter Sudyka

pre 7 meseci

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS and Peggy

I don't condone the shelling of unarmed civilians by anyone, but even if that number is correct, that's still only 10% of the amount of Chechen civilians killed in the 1st and 2nd Chechen wars.

"Still, none of this would have happened if Nuland and the USA didn't orchestrate a violent coup in 2014 against a democratically elected government in the country to begin with.
(Tim Sawyer, 20 September 2023 18:33)"

This democratically elected government was led by a common criminal that was arrested twice of robbery and assault.

Him and his criminal family stole $100-billion worth of state funds, stashing nearly $40-billion of that in foreign bank accounts and spent nearly $10-million just on renovating his humble Mezhyhirya dacha.

Finally, in 2010 he said: "Ukraine's integration with the EU remains our strategic aim". In 2013 he changed his mind because Russia put pressure on Ukraine to reject the EU Association Agreement and restricted Ukrainian imports to pressure the country.

So he robbed the country blind and lied to his people, who were tired of living in a Russian-style oligarch state, where a couple of rich uncles in suits have it great while the average wage was less than 100 euro per month, where the minimum wage is now 160 euro.

And you still say that "Nuland and the USA didn't orchestrate a violent coup in 2014"? Get a clue, mate.

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS

pre 7 meseci

Lydia Porchenko.......
B92 did not "invent" this story. B92 is merely covering news of a story published by NY Times.
The point you make is also a bit naive, silly and one sided. Tell us who provides news updates from the front line....? The wests media is fed info by Kiev, and only Kiev. And you think this is even handed and the truth...??...lol....
I suspect you are Ukrainian and of course I understand your bias view.
But you must admitt that if Kiev had honoured the signed agreements with Russia on neutrality this war would not have happened. You can say what you wish but that is a fact.. And by the way Lydia, how would America like it if Canada, Mexico, Jamaica, Cuba, etc, decided to invite Indian military bases on their land?? Or Chinese or Russian???
And please dont deny the Azov division bombarding east Ukraine since 2014 with apprx 15000 civilian deaths. Where was your condemnation of those Azov actions???
I'll also tell you that less than 50 nations have sanctioned Russia. And there are over 190 UN member states....
No Lydia, Putin is telling the truth. You should look at your own leadership in Kiev as to why this is happening. And Ukraine will not defeat Russia, take my word on that.

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS

pre 7 meseci

Peter Sudyka.......
Yes, tragedy it is.
Still, none of this would have happened had Kiev honoured their signed agreements with Moscow re: neutrality.......!!!!
Still, none of this would have happened has the Ukrainian azov division not killed 15000 civilians in east Ukraine since 2014.....!!!
Still, none of this would have happened had the Americans not paid for and organised the 2014 coup (listen to Victoria Nuland leaked phone conversation with US ambassador to Ukraine)...!!!!
Still, none of this would have happened had Boris Johnson not scuppered an agreement between Kiev and Moscow in April 2022....!!!

Peter Sudyka....why dont you start at the beggining of this tragic conflict...??? Why do ignore the above points which brought on the war....???
Why do you lie so much...????

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS

pre 7 meseci

Betsy Lalich....
Extract from Guardian newspaper 26/4/2022....

"One of the most senior US officials in the Pacific has refused to rule out military action against the Solomon Islands if it were to allow China to establish a military base there, saying that the security deal between the countries presented "potential regional security implications" for the US and other allies".

NB; Solomon Islands are approx 7000 miles away from America.
Nato promised Moscow that it would not expand an inch to the east (which proved to be a lie).
So, Betsy, tell us why you think its ok for nato missiles on Russias border?? Why is it ok for Kiev to p*ss on their signed agreements with Russia on neutrality..??

Betsy, are you just simply stupid? Are you that brainwashed?
Explain the US threats to the Solomon Islands. You think thats ok?
Sometimes I ask myself why I bother with dummies like you....

Tim Sawyer

pre 7 meseci

(Peter Sudyka, 20 September 2023 15:20)

Thank you Peter. Please note a few typos to support your argument.
Regardless of what happened, 15 people are dead and 30 are wounded. If this was a Ukrainian directed missile, then this is truly a crime. Still, none of this would have happened if Nuland and the USA didn't orchestrate a violent coup in 2014 against a democratically elected government in the country to begin with.

Sj

pre 7 meseci

I recall the market event in Sarajevo where Serbs were blamed but a UN investigation clearly indicated that the mortar shells were fired from within Sarajevo. Funny how the US managed to bury that report.
It's getting more and more difficult for the US to point the find at someone else.

Tom Sawyer

pre 7 meseci

Tommy,
What is MSM ?
(Deleted some of Betsy’s nonsense about a cave and politburo)
where you are reporting from.
(Betsy Lalich, 20 September 2023 14:12)

MSM stands for mainstream media. I hope I have helped to open your eyes to common acronyms. Please feel free to ask about more.
I am not a “reporter”.
I do however read vociferously. I also attend lectures and have been to the greater Chicago area often, and lived on both sides of the Mississippi River. May I personally recommend that you attend a lecture or follow the readings of Professor John Mearsheimer. John is a highly respected researcher and academic.

Peggy

pre 7 meseci

Regardless of what happened, 15 people are dead and 30 are wounded. If this was a Ukrainian AA missile, then this is truly a tragedy. Still, none of this would have happened if Russia didn't attack the country to begin with.
(Peter Sudyka, 20 September 2023 15:20)
======================
But 14,000 dead Russians from 2014 to special operation by Russia is ok?
This 14,000 includes women and children so worse would've happened if allowed to continue.
Funny how you just brush this aside as if Ukraine had no control over where they shoot.

Tom Sawyer

pre 7 meseci

Yes, let us believe the insane nationalist maniacs on this site that are a pure disgrace.
The world will remember you. And hopefully Serbia rises above this nonsense.
(Betsy Lalich, 21 September 2023 04:44)

Thank you Betsy. Your self disclosure as an insane USA ultra nationalist, who portrays the genocide of more than 3 million Vietnamese simply as a done in “US interests” is indeed maniacal.
The world, or at least the commenters on B92 English, will indeed remember you.
I do agree that Serbia and her brave people will rise above your insane American nationalism.

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS

pre 7 meseci

Betsy Lalich......
I answered your intital post with extracts fron the Guardian newspaper. Explain to us why your America can threaten the Solomin Islands if they invite China to establish a military base on the islands?? And those islands are some 7000 miles from your America.
Then explain why you think its ok for nato missiles on Russias border?? You think thats ok??
Using your bias logic, then why cant Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Jamaica, etc, invite China to build a base on their land..... i'm really curious to understand your logic and how you can justify it all.
And please, when you have no answer and are proved wrong, dont jusy whitewash it with a stupid sweeping statement that ignores my questions.
NB; if you provoke and corner anyone or anything, they will fight back. Now that your America/nato has provoked Russia, you see what happens. In a nutshell....if you provoke a bear and it bites you, dont blame the bear...
Do you get it Betsy....???