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Media: Possible exclusion of the Baltic states from NATO?

United States can sacrifice the Baltic states for the sake of a strategic agreement with Russia, says US analyst Dave Pine in an article for "National Interest"

Izvor: Sputnik

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sj

pre 2 godine

sj thank you for your personal insult including the phrase ‘people like you’.

In reply I will say ‘the trouble with people like you is people like you’.
(Bob, 5 January 2022 06:02)

Dont worry Bob I am not isolating you because there are thousands like you who have not got a brain between their ears and watch US TV, but you still have not answered my question. How many Russian troops are there near the US Mexican border?

Bob

pre 2 godine

sj thank you for your personal insult including the phrase ‘people like you’.

In reply I will say ‘the trouble with people like you is people like you’.

Iskander

pre 2 godine

Thank you Fact Man! It was Russia proper then, not the Ussr. So that just adds a point to my argument :)
M and Ricky J, thanks for correcting me. Criticize me friends criticize me, I know the Party of Lenin criticizes me for my own good...

sj

pre 2 godine

(Food ForThought, 3 January 2022 20:23)

Don’t hold your breath on Russian troops starving and its 120,000 not 100,000 so get your propaganda right.
So, US corporation are each worth more than Russia? If they sold say Apple, which they claim is worth $1 trillion, who would get this money? The US government or would it be the stockholders? Hmm any ideas on the matter? Plus, who is doing the valuation? Its not worth much if you’re assessing yourself. To be valid you need an independent authority which the US does not have such an organisation.
Considering that your Albos in Koosva are now without electricity or gas, they will be burning their furniture to stay warm and BBQing their pooches.

Fact Man

pre 2 godine

@ Ricky J

It was in fact Russia and not USSR, as the latter state was established
in 1922.

Czar Alexander I of Russia recognized U.S.A independence on October 28, 1803. Russia and U.S.A formally established diplomatic relations in 1809.

Ricky J

pre 2 godine

Iskander,
The USSR did not exist when America declared independence in 1776, so how could they be the first country to recognize them.

sj

pre 2 godine

… then what else would follow?

Appeasement does not work.
(Bob, 3 January 2022 13:22)

The problem with people like you is that they think a war with Russia is survivable. It’s not mate. That’s the problem with neocons. They ran out of Afghanistan and think a little proxy war with Russia is manageable – they are deluded. In a very short time it would be on Washington’s doorsteps.
As far as appeasement is concerned, I don't see Russian forces in Mexico near the US borders. Do you?
If push comes to shove, I doubt you would put on a uniform and volunteer to go to the front.

Food ForThought

pre 2 godine

Putin’s bluff has been called and he has no Plan B to revert to, in fact, he never had a Plan A. Putin brags of a War Chest of $480 Billion, but this just chump change for the US. Many of US corporations are each worth more than all of Russia. Those 100,000 Russian troops massed on the Ukraine’s border will starve during the Russia winter. Russian soldiers will have to beg for food from their Ukrainian neighbors if war begins. This is a recipe ripe for desertion. God help Putin’s dog when Vlad finally gets home! He will either beat the pooch or eat him, hee, hee, hee.

Food For Thought

pre 2 godine

If war occurs, the Russian winter will be harsh on Russian troops. Starvation of Russian troops followed by their desertion, will be the result of Putin’s folly if he choose war. Vlad will need a new pair of elevator shoes judging by his defeatist posture lately. I feel sorry for Putin’s dog, when Vlad gets home. Putin will either beat the pooch or eat him, or both! There is a third possibility, but that is too bizarre for words, knowing how much Russians love their pets.

M

pre 2 godine

The Baltic states misunderstood their Nato membership as a free pass to their nationalistic agendas, they took advantage of the position to further their aggressive attitude towards Russia and to enable a revival of the Nazi rethoric against Russia. Under the covert of the "we do everything to please our boss the US" they went further than their boss ever wanted them to. The US has no real interest to worsen its relations with Russia. Russia and the US have been allies in the WW2. The USSR was the first country to recognize the newly founded United States of America. A return to the principles that founded America is long due. Americans don't put yourself in a position where some sneaky nazis are deciding your foreign policy. Together we can!!
(Iskander, 3 January 2022 15:13)


...like come on where do people get their facts... "The USSR was the first country to recognize the newly founded United States of America" ... FFS the USSR was founded in 1922, when did the US declare their independence...?

Iskander

pre 2 godine

The Baltic states misunderstood their Nato membership as a free pass to their nationalistic agendas, they took advantage of the position to further their aggressive attitude towards Russia and to enable a revival of the Nazi rethoric against Russia. Under the covert of the "we do everything to please our boss the US" they went further than their boss ever wanted them to. The US has no real interest to worsen its relations with Russia. Russia and the US have been allies in the WW2. The USSR was the first country to recognize the newly founded United States of America. A return to the principles that founded America is long due. Americans don't put yourself in a position where some sneaky nazis are deciding your foreign policy. Together we can!!

Al

pre 2 godine

NATO only exist due to the fact the US is pouring USA $$$$ into it and the American taxpayers are in debt for it. All other NATO members are basically contributing bread crumbs to the alliance budget. When the US economy hits hard times, NATO budget will be hit hard unless the other members are willing to contribute to keep it afloat.

sj

pre 2 godine

This very feasible. The US needs to concentrate in the east and since it can’t fight on two fronts even with NATO on its side, they need to settle with Russia.
Yes the neocons think they can take on Russia in Europe, but the more rational minority in Washington know if a war starts its going to come to the front door of and in the loungerooms of the US. This is not Iraq, Vietnam or Afghanistan.
Now if they think Russia will abandon China, they are very badly mistaken.
The Empire will sacrifice anyone or anything for its “greater good”. Hope the Albos are paying close attention because Kosova will no longer be of any value to the US if an agreement between Russia and US comes into play.

sj

pre 2 godine

This very feasible. The US needs to concentrate in the east and since it can’t fight on two fronts even with NATO on its side, they need to settle with Russia.
Yes the neocons think they can take on Russia in Europe, but the more rational minority in Washington know if a war starts its going to come to the front door of and in the loungerooms of the US. This is not Iraq, Vietnam or Afghanistan.
Now if they think Russia will abandon China, they are very badly mistaken.
The Empire will sacrifice anyone or anything for its “greater good”. Hope the Albos are paying close attention because Kosova will no longer be of any value to the US if an agreement between Russia and US comes into play.

Al

pre 2 godine

NATO only exist due to the fact the US is pouring USA $$$$ into it and the American taxpayers are in debt for it. All other NATO members are basically contributing bread crumbs to the alliance budget. When the US economy hits hard times, NATO budget will be hit hard unless the other members are willing to contribute to keep it afloat.

Iskander

pre 2 godine

The Baltic states misunderstood their Nato membership as a free pass to their nationalistic agendas, they took advantage of the position to further their aggressive attitude towards Russia and to enable a revival of the Nazi rethoric against Russia. Under the covert of the "we do everything to please our boss the US" they went further than their boss ever wanted them to. The US has no real interest to worsen its relations with Russia. Russia and the US have been allies in the WW2. The USSR was the first country to recognize the newly founded United States of America. A return to the principles that founded America is long due. Americans don't put yourself in a position where some sneaky nazis are deciding your foreign policy. Together we can!!

Ricky J

pre 2 godine

Iskander,
The USSR did not exist when America declared independence in 1776, so how could they be the first country to recognize them.

M

pre 2 godine

The Baltic states misunderstood their Nato membership as a free pass to their nationalistic agendas, they took advantage of the position to further their aggressive attitude towards Russia and to enable a revival of the Nazi rethoric against Russia. Under the covert of the "we do everything to please our boss the US" they went further than their boss ever wanted them to. The US has no real interest to worsen its relations with Russia. Russia and the US have been allies in the WW2. The USSR was the first country to recognize the newly founded United States of America. A return to the principles that founded America is long due. Americans don't put yourself in a position where some sneaky nazis are deciding your foreign policy. Together we can!!
(Iskander, 3 January 2022 15:13)


...like come on where do people get their facts... "The USSR was the first country to recognize the newly founded United States of America" ... FFS the USSR was founded in 1922, when did the US declare their independence...?

sj

pre 2 godine

… then what else would follow?

Appeasement does not work.
(Bob, 3 January 2022 13:22)

The problem with people like you is that they think a war with Russia is survivable. It’s not mate. That’s the problem with neocons. They ran out of Afghanistan and think a little proxy war with Russia is manageable – they are deluded. In a very short time it would be on Washington’s doorsteps.
As far as appeasement is concerned, I don't see Russian forces in Mexico near the US borders. Do you?
If push comes to shove, I doubt you would put on a uniform and volunteer to go to the front.

Fact Man

pre 2 godine

@ Ricky J

It was in fact Russia and not USSR, as the latter state was established
in 1922.

Czar Alexander I of Russia recognized U.S.A independence on October 28, 1803. Russia and U.S.A formally established diplomatic relations in 1809.

Food ForThought

pre 2 godine

Putin’s bluff has been called and he has no Plan B to revert to, in fact, he never had a Plan A. Putin brags of a War Chest of $480 Billion, but this just chump change for the US. Many of US corporations are each worth more than all of Russia. Those 100,000 Russian troops massed on the Ukraine’s border will starve during the Russia winter. Russian soldiers will have to beg for food from their Ukrainian neighbors if war begins. This is a recipe ripe for desertion. God help Putin’s dog when Vlad finally gets home! He will either beat the pooch or eat him, hee, hee, hee.

Food For Thought

pre 2 godine

If war occurs, the Russian winter will be harsh on Russian troops. Starvation of Russian troops followed by their desertion, will be the result of Putin’s folly if he choose war. Vlad will need a new pair of elevator shoes judging by his defeatist posture lately. I feel sorry for Putin’s dog, when Vlad gets home. Putin will either beat the pooch or eat him, or both! There is a third possibility, but that is too bizarre for words, knowing how much Russians love their pets.

sj

pre 2 godine

(Food ForThought, 3 January 2022 20:23)

Don’t hold your breath on Russian troops starving and its 120,000 not 100,000 so get your propaganda right.
So, US corporation are each worth more than Russia? If they sold say Apple, which they claim is worth $1 trillion, who would get this money? The US government or would it be the stockholders? Hmm any ideas on the matter? Plus, who is doing the valuation? Its not worth much if you’re assessing yourself. To be valid you need an independent authority which the US does not have such an organisation.
Considering that your Albos in Koosva are now without electricity or gas, they will be burning their furniture to stay warm and BBQing their pooches.

sj

pre 2 godine

sj thank you for your personal insult including the phrase ‘people like you’.

In reply I will say ‘the trouble with people like you is people like you’.
(Bob, 5 January 2022 06:02)

Dont worry Bob I am not isolating you because there are thousands like you who have not got a brain between their ears and watch US TV, but you still have not answered my question. How many Russian troops are there near the US Mexican border?

Iskander

pre 2 godine

Thank you Fact Man! It was Russia proper then, not the Ussr. So that just adds a point to my argument :)
M and Ricky J, thanks for correcting me. Criticize me friends criticize me, I know the Party of Lenin criticizes me for my own good...

Bob

pre 2 godine

sj thank you for your personal insult including the phrase ‘people like you’.

In reply I will say ‘the trouble with people like you is people like you’.

sj

pre 2 godine

This very feasible. The US needs to concentrate in the east and since it can’t fight on two fronts even with NATO on its side, they need to settle with Russia.
Yes the neocons think they can take on Russia in Europe, but the more rational minority in Washington know if a war starts its going to come to the front door of and in the loungerooms of the US. This is not Iraq, Vietnam or Afghanistan.
Now if they think Russia will abandon China, they are very badly mistaken.
The Empire will sacrifice anyone or anything for its “greater good”. Hope the Albos are paying close attention because Kosova will no longer be of any value to the US if an agreement between Russia and US comes into play.

Iskander

pre 2 godine

The Baltic states misunderstood their Nato membership as a free pass to their nationalistic agendas, they took advantage of the position to further their aggressive attitude towards Russia and to enable a revival of the Nazi rethoric against Russia. Under the covert of the "we do everything to please our boss the US" they went further than their boss ever wanted them to. The US has no real interest to worsen its relations with Russia. Russia and the US have been allies in the WW2. The USSR was the first country to recognize the newly founded United States of America. A return to the principles that founded America is long due. Americans don't put yourself in a position where some sneaky nazis are deciding your foreign policy. Together we can!!

Al

pre 2 godine

NATO only exist due to the fact the US is pouring USA $$$$ into it and the American taxpayers are in debt for it. All other NATO members are basically contributing bread crumbs to the alliance budget. When the US economy hits hard times, NATO budget will be hit hard unless the other members are willing to contribute to keep it afloat.

Food ForThought

pre 2 godine

Putin’s bluff has been called and he has no Plan B to revert to, in fact, he never had a Plan A. Putin brags of a War Chest of $480 Billion, but this just chump change for the US. Many of US corporations are each worth more than all of Russia. Those 100,000 Russian troops massed on the Ukraine’s border will starve during the Russia winter. Russian soldiers will have to beg for food from their Ukrainian neighbors if war begins. This is a recipe ripe for desertion. God help Putin’s dog when Vlad finally gets home! He will either beat the pooch or eat him, hee, hee, hee.

Food For Thought

pre 2 godine

If war occurs, the Russian winter will be harsh on Russian troops. Starvation of Russian troops followed by their desertion, will be the result of Putin’s folly if he choose war. Vlad will need a new pair of elevator shoes judging by his defeatist posture lately. I feel sorry for Putin’s dog, when Vlad gets home. Putin will either beat the pooch or eat him, or both! There is a third possibility, but that is too bizarre for words, knowing how much Russians love their pets.

sj

pre 2 godine

… then what else would follow?

Appeasement does not work.
(Bob, 3 January 2022 13:22)

The problem with people like you is that they think a war with Russia is survivable. It’s not mate. That’s the problem with neocons. They ran out of Afghanistan and think a little proxy war with Russia is manageable – they are deluded. In a very short time it would be on Washington’s doorsteps.
As far as appeasement is concerned, I don't see Russian forces in Mexico near the US borders. Do you?
If push comes to shove, I doubt you would put on a uniform and volunteer to go to the front.

M

pre 2 godine

The Baltic states misunderstood their Nato membership as a free pass to their nationalistic agendas, they took advantage of the position to further their aggressive attitude towards Russia and to enable a revival of the Nazi rethoric against Russia. Under the covert of the "we do everything to please our boss the US" they went further than their boss ever wanted them to. The US has no real interest to worsen its relations with Russia. Russia and the US have been allies in the WW2. The USSR was the first country to recognize the newly founded United States of America. A return to the principles that founded America is long due. Americans don't put yourself in a position where some sneaky nazis are deciding your foreign policy. Together we can!!
(Iskander, 3 January 2022 15:13)


...like come on where do people get their facts... "The USSR was the first country to recognize the newly founded United States of America" ... FFS the USSR was founded in 1922, when did the US declare their independence...?

Bob

pre 2 godine

sj thank you for your personal insult including the phrase ‘people like you’.

In reply I will say ‘the trouble with people like you is people like you’.

Ricky J

pre 2 godine

Iskander,
The USSR did not exist when America declared independence in 1776, so how could they be the first country to recognize them.

Fact Man

pre 2 godine

@ Ricky J

It was in fact Russia and not USSR, as the latter state was established
in 1922.

Czar Alexander I of Russia recognized U.S.A independence on October 28, 1803. Russia and U.S.A formally established diplomatic relations in 1809.

sj

pre 2 godine

(Food ForThought, 3 January 2022 20:23)

Don’t hold your breath on Russian troops starving and its 120,000 not 100,000 so get your propaganda right.
So, US corporation are each worth more than Russia? If they sold say Apple, which they claim is worth $1 trillion, who would get this money? The US government or would it be the stockholders? Hmm any ideas on the matter? Plus, who is doing the valuation? Its not worth much if you’re assessing yourself. To be valid you need an independent authority which the US does not have such an organisation.
Considering that your Albos in Koosva are now without electricity or gas, they will be burning their furniture to stay warm and BBQing their pooches.

Iskander

pre 2 godine

Thank you Fact Man! It was Russia proper then, not the Ussr. So that just adds a point to my argument :)
M and Ricky J, thanks for correcting me. Criticize me friends criticize me, I know the Party of Lenin criticizes me for my own good...

sj

pre 2 godine

sj thank you for your personal insult including the phrase ‘people like you’.

In reply I will say ‘the trouble with people like you is people like you’.
(Bob, 5 January 2022 06:02)

Dont worry Bob I am not isolating you because there are thousands like you who have not got a brain between their ears and watch US TV, but you still have not answered my question. How many Russian troops are there near the US Mexican border?