The Kremlin's immediate response

Like CIA, GRU has own rules and own logic.
What you say is logical, but neither CIA nor GRU act always logically.

BTW: I tend to believe, Germans are correct and it's GRU.
(Ataman, 3 October 2020 03:36)

And yet the Germans refuse to provide the Russians with what they have found. The fact that a drop of this chemical can kill dozens, Navalny's staff went back to his hotel 4 hours later to retrieve his water bottle and not ONE became ill.
Please this is the same BS as the Skipals where you had father and daughter poisoned while police were strolling through the park with no protective gear at all. If it was novichok there would have been bodies all over the place.
Navalny could not even get 2% in the last election yet he is the "Opposition" leader in Russia. The real opposition is the communist p[arty and ultra nationals not Navalny.

2% of Russians vote for Navalny.Why would Putin poison him? Putin needs Navalny as he is one of the weakiest oppositors. The Novicok was first in the tea, according to Navalny. Then there were camera images showing his friend at the airport ordering and taking tea. Then Novicok was in a small bottle of water at the hotel room. But Novicok is very contagious so how come his wife friends and even doctors didnt get sick? Why german doctors dont give the evidence to the russian doctors?

Sken,

Like CIA, GRU has own rules and own logic.
What you say is logical, but neither CIA nor GRU act always logically.

BTW: I tend to believe, Germans are correct and it's GRU.

(Ataman, 5 October 2020 21:12)

Lay of the vodka mate. If they wanted Skripal dead why did'nt they kill him 13 years ago when he was in Russia? No they waited all this time so they could see the headlines Russia Kills .....using Novichok.
Do you even have any idea how lethal Novichok is? a drop or two kills dozens with a certain radius yet you have British police walk around that park where the skripals were sitting without protective gear.
Please lay off the juice. If the Russian agents disappeared where are the Skripals? enjoying the sunshine with those agents.
The latest is this so called opposition leader. The Germans found, wait for it, Novichok in his body LOL. Why Navalny’s staff found his water bottle 4 hours after Navalny left the hotel and yes, wait for it, they found Novichok in that water. Funny considering how lethal it is, no one else became ill.
Lay off the juice.

Navalny could not even get 2% in the last election yet he is the "Opposition" leader in Russia. The real opposition is the communist p[arty and ultra nationals not Navalny.
(sj, 4 October 2020 09:18)

Like Sken, you try to find some logic - but there isn't any.
I think the only logic here to look at is the logic of the three-letter organizations.
They act on their own code of conduct.

To make it more complicated: the two culprits in Skripalj case were toasted publicly on Russian TV and I did watch it in original. Probably only a newborn child would not believe, these guys went to Salisbury to murder Skripalj.

Since that interview with two hopeless agents was on public TV where nothing happens without consent of VVP - go figure. (Or not. According the code of conduct who fails will "disappear" - and since they failed, this was their last appearance in public. Let me guess: they aren't in this Universe anymore).

Ataman I think Cia, Gru, Mosad, Sigurimi, Securitade, Udb, all of them act on our countries best interest. I also think they employ smart and loyal people. So if something that let say is against the interest of America cannot be done from Cia. Thats why I and sj try to use the logic to understand who poisoned who. I dont think Gru is different from Cia or Mosad. Unless Gru is employing stupid people who have fun going around and poisoning weak people just a little bit so to suffer the hell but not die. I dont trust german services, but I trust german doctors. If they say that was novicok, I trust them but they need to give evidence to Russian part. Why would Russia blow in the air North stream 2 for the weakiest oppositor Mr. Navalny? What if somebody else did it to accuse Gru and Putin?

2% of Russians vote for Navalny.Why would Putin poison him? Putin needs Navalny as he is one of the weakiest oppositors. The Novicok was first in the tea, according to Navalny. Then there were camera images showing his friend at the airport ordering and taking tea. Then Novicok was in a small bottle of water at the hotel room. But Novicok is very contagious so how come his wife friends and even doctors didnt get sick? Why german doctors dont give the evidence to the russian doctors?

Sken,

Like CIA, GRU has own rules and own logic.
What you say is logical, but neither CIA nor GRU act always logically.

BTW: I tend to believe, Germans are correct and it's GRU.

Navalny could not even get 2% in the last election yet he is the "Opposition" leader in Russia. The real opposition is the communist p[arty and ultra nationals not Navalny.
(sj, 4 October 2020 09:18)

Like Sken, you try to find some logic - but there isn't any.
I think the only logic here to look at is the logic of the three-letter organizations.
They act on their own code of conduct.

To make it more complicated: the two culprits in Skripalj case were toasted publicly on Russian TV and I did watch it in original. Probably only a newborn child would not believe, these guys went to Salisbury to murder Skripalj.

Since that interview with two hopeless agents was on public TV where nothing happens without consent of VVP - go figure. (Or not. According the code of conduct who fails will "disappear" - and since they failed, this was their last appearance in public. Let me guess: they aren't in this Universe anymore).

Like CIA, GRU has own rules and own logic.
What you say is logical, but neither CIA nor GRU act always logically.

BTW: I tend to believe, Germans are correct and it's GRU.
(Ataman, 3 October 2020 03:36)

And yet the Germans refuse to provide the Russians with what they have found. The fact that a drop of this chemical can kill dozens, Navalny's staff went back to his hotel 4 hours later to retrieve his water bottle and not ONE became ill.
Please this is the same BS as the Skipals where you had father and daughter poisoned while police were strolling through the park with no protective gear at all. If it was novichok there would have been bodies all over the place.
Navalny could not even get 2% in the last election yet he is the "Opposition" leader in Russia. The real opposition is the communist p[arty and ultra nationals not Navalny.

(Ataman, 5 October 2020 21:12)

Lay of the vodka mate. If they wanted Skripal dead why did'nt they kill him 13 years ago when he was in Russia? No they waited all this time so they could see the headlines Russia Kills .....using Novichok.
Do you even have any idea how lethal Novichok is? a drop or two kills dozens with a certain radius yet you have British police walk around that park where the skripals were sitting without protective gear.
Please lay off the juice. If the Russian agents disappeared where are the Skripals? enjoying the sunshine with those agents.
The latest is this so called opposition leader. The Germans found, wait for it, Novichok in his body LOL. Why Navalny’s staff found his water bottle 4 hours after Navalny left the hotel and yes, wait for it, they found Novichok in that water. Funny considering how lethal it is, no one else became ill.
Lay off the juice.

Ataman I think Cia, Gru, Mosad, Sigurimi, Securitade, Udb, all of them act on our countries best interest. I also think they employ smart and loyal people. So if something that let say is against the interest of America cannot be done from Cia. Thats why I and sj try to use the logic to understand who poisoned who. I dont think Gru is different from Cia or Mosad. Unless Gru is employing stupid people who have fun going around and poisoning weak people just a little bit so to suffer the hell but not die. I dont trust german services, but I trust german doctors. If they say that was novicok, I trust them but they need to give evidence to Russian part. Why would Russia blow in the air North stream 2 for the weakiest oppositor Mr. Navalny? What if somebody else did it to accuse Gru and Putin?