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Monday, 13.04.2020.

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The Guardian "Coronavirus diplomacy": how Russia, China and EU vie to win over Serbia

In Serbia, an EU candidate state, that has courted Moscow and Beijing in recent years, the intersection of competing “coronavirus diplomacies” is highly visible

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Ataman

pre 4 godine

Why not look at the origin, at it's author, at the critics he got from own colleague and at the comments on The Guardian?

I read all the comments here and find it bizarre, no one looked at the origin.


1) https://tinyurl.com/ul6f7b4

2) The author, Shaun Walker has a related book, called "The Long Hangover" about Russia.
That book received a review from Jonathan Steele, his colleague.

https://tinyurl.com/yatosklj

I do not see any reader comment about 1), but regarding 2) it is interesting to read them and they sound far more mature than what I expected.

Mayor of Trollhätten

pre 4 godine

Apparently Peggy and sj are suffering from the secondary symptoms of covid19 which include hallucinations, aggrandizing Serbia, and diarrhea of the mouth.
(Joanna, 15 April 2020 23:04)

Most of the time I respectfully disagree with both Peggy and sj.
Respectfully because I know them for probably 15 years.
Thank you for your comment, in all the context above you told everything relevant.

In any case if your keyboard is broken, I am going to send you the best one with Italian design, US key layout and fake ALPS switches, made in China.

$79.99 going to be deducted from your Camp Bondsteel bank account, hope you won't mind it.

Joanna

pre 4 godine

Apparently Peggy and sj are suffering from the secondary symptoms of covid19 which include hallucinations, aggrandizing Serbia, and diarrhea of the mouth.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Maybe you should do some research
(Peggy, 15 April 2020 05:40)

The usual kbd-warrior character with many names, ho-hum humor and Swedish keyboards made in China. Maybe the "ex-Peggy".

Already pretended to be a Mainland Chinese with a Taiwanese name.
Wouldn't we buy thousands of the controllers from one or the other place I wouldn't notice, but "she" had bad luck again.

I am absolutely against the Chinese Communist Party and supporting Taiwan - but being a laughable fake is not an excuse. At least "she" should chose a name spelling typical for mainland China. Sigh.

Idiot remains an idiot. 🤣😂🙃🙂

Peggy

pre 4 godine

China brought the Coronavirus to Serbia, what more do we want, whereas, Russia has turned their back on us. The EU is worse off than Serbia where covid19 is concerned, how can we expect any help from them.
(Joanna K., 14 April 2020 05:49)
=============
Maybe you should do some research before you make stupid comments.
Whose facility in Wuhan is it?
Russia has not turned their back on Serbia. Far from it.

Lord Oven

pre 4 godine

It is sad when western block countries fail to support countries in need, they mock recipients and countries that do give generous donations. This article is written in that fashion, dictated by western handlers. What do you expect that we will welcome you with an open arms after bombing us in 1999? And even then there was no help for cleaning of 10 tonnes of depleted uranium. I wish Serbia and Serbian people NEVER forget this.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Serbia is Russia's and China's useful idiot.
(Time, 13 April 2020 17:08)

Difficult topic. I assume, you assume Russia and China are friends? I hope, I am wrong. 😒

Bre

pre 4 godine

Serbia is Russia's and China's useful idiot.
(Time, 13 April 2020 17:08) # Comment link
Recommend (+9)Poor comment (-15)

Well, isn't that nice the EU sent Serbia LOANS....interest free I hope?
(Tom, 13 April 2020 18:37) # Comment link

Ahaha you guys dont have a pot to piss in, while your Kosovo is government free and taxes free, just like we knew alllllll aloooooong....LMAOOOOOOOO...

Saving face was never a k Albo strong point... :)

Emit

pre 4 godine

Better to be a useful idiot than a useless excuse for humanity. Time's up Time you'd be dangerous and humourous if you had a brain as big as you think your's is!

Zhukov

pre 4 godine

Serbia is Russia's and China's useful idiot.
(Time, 13 April 2020 17:08)

Using your comparative scale, Italy and Spain are US-NATO’s brain dead corpses being helped by Sino-Russian vital supplies.

Sreten

pre 4 godine

Few lessons for those who want to join.

When Vucic said that “European solidarity does not exist. It was a fairy tale." one European diplomat quickly reacted.
" It was not exactly what they would want to hear from a government that claims it is doing its utmost to join the EU."

Lesson 1

If you want to join EU, your reaction to them banning export of medical supplies to your country during the crisis should have been "Thank you!" as the only appropriate reaction they want to hear.

"Unlike most of Europe, Serbia is following the Chinese model of isolating..."

"But Serbian officials are hopeful that implementing the strict Chinese measures early will mean the country avoids a large-scale epidemic as seen in western European countries."

Lesson 2

Guardian journalist is right to point this out. If you want to join, you should implement European measures even if it leads to a large-scale epidemic. You should finally decide, what's more important? Saving the lives by implementing measures that worked, or joining EU?

PEN

pre 4 godine

@time,

You carry on playing with your Lego and leave the grown ups to look for solutions to the crisis. Urgent assistance is needed at this time, not sarcastic comments.

sj

pre 4 godine

Better a useful Chinese and Russian idiot and reaping the rewards than living in poverty while rocking oneself and repeating I want freedom and democracy.
One thing I have learnt with the west and there is no such thing as an interest free loan. Just ask the Croats who now are awaiting with open arms this new Brussels package for EU economies, while Zagreb is trying to sell it as a free money, but its far, far from that.

Joanna K.

pre 4 godine

China brought the Coronavirus to Serbia, what more do we want, whereas, Russia has turned their back on us. The EU is worse off than Serbia where covid19 is concerned, how can we expect any help from them.

Watcherovic

pre 4 godine

Serbia is Russia's and China's useful idiot.
(Time, 13 April 2020 17:08

@ timeaj - If that's what it takes to reject "kosovaaaaaa" in the UN Security Council...then so be it.

Funny thing is...you Albanians think the americans "love" you, yet they have no clue who you even are and continue to restrict you to "europes newest decomcracy" abortion ghetto....they don't even give you visas to travel!!
Yet...here you are....They "love" us, LOL, LOL

Watcherovic

pre 4 godine

Serbia is Russia's and China's useful idiot.
(Time, 13 April 2020 17:08

@ timeaj - If that's what it takes to reject "kosovaaaaaa" in the UN Security Council...then so be it.

Funny thing is...you Albanians think the americans "love" you, yet they have no clue who you even are and continue to restrict you to "europes newest decomcracy" abortion ghetto....they don't even give you visas to travel!!
Yet...here you are....They "love" us, LOL, LOL

Lord Oven

pre 4 godine

It is sad when western block countries fail to support countries in need, they mock recipients and countries that do give generous donations. This article is written in that fashion, dictated by western handlers. What do you expect that we will welcome you with an open arms after bombing us in 1999? And even then there was no help for cleaning of 10 tonnes of depleted uranium. I wish Serbia and Serbian people NEVER forget this.

Joanna K.

pre 4 godine

China brought the Coronavirus to Serbia, what more do we want, whereas, Russia has turned their back on us. The EU is worse off than Serbia where covid19 is concerned, how can we expect any help from them.

sj

pre 4 godine

Better a useful Chinese and Russian idiot and reaping the rewards than living in poverty while rocking oneself and repeating I want freedom and democracy.
One thing I have learnt with the west and there is no such thing as an interest free loan. Just ask the Croats who now are awaiting with open arms this new Brussels package for EU economies, while Zagreb is trying to sell it as a free money, but its far, far from that.

PEN

pre 4 godine

@time,

You carry on playing with your Lego and leave the grown ups to look for solutions to the crisis. Urgent assistance is needed at this time, not sarcastic comments.

Sreten

pre 4 godine

Few lessons for those who want to join.

When Vucic said that “European solidarity does not exist. It was a fairy tale." one European diplomat quickly reacted.
" It was not exactly what they would want to hear from a government that claims it is doing its utmost to join the EU."

Lesson 1

If you want to join EU, your reaction to them banning export of medical supplies to your country during the crisis should have been "Thank you!" as the only appropriate reaction they want to hear.

"Unlike most of Europe, Serbia is following the Chinese model of isolating..."

"But Serbian officials are hopeful that implementing the strict Chinese measures early will mean the country avoids a large-scale epidemic as seen in western European countries."

Lesson 2

Guardian journalist is right to point this out. If you want to join, you should implement European measures even if it leads to a large-scale epidemic. You should finally decide, what's more important? Saving the lives by implementing measures that worked, or joining EU?

Zhukov

pre 4 godine

Serbia is Russia's and China's useful idiot.
(Time, 13 April 2020 17:08)

Using your comparative scale, Italy and Spain are US-NATO’s brain dead corpses being helped by Sino-Russian vital supplies.

Bre

pre 4 godine

Serbia is Russia's and China's useful idiot.
(Time, 13 April 2020 17:08) # Comment link
Recommend (+9)Poor comment (-15)

Well, isn't that nice the EU sent Serbia LOANS....interest free I hope?
(Tom, 13 April 2020 18:37) # Comment link

Ahaha you guys dont have a pot to piss in, while your Kosovo is government free and taxes free, just like we knew alllllll aloooooong....LMAOOOOOOOO...

Saving face was never a k Albo strong point... :)

Emit

pre 4 godine

Better to be a useful idiot than a useless excuse for humanity. Time's up Time you'd be dangerous and humourous if you had a brain as big as you think your's is!

Peggy

pre 4 godine

China brought the Coronavirus to Serbia, what more do we want, whereas, Russia has turned their back on us. The EU is worse off than Serbia where covid19 is concerned, how can we expect any help from them.
(Joanna K., 14 April 2020 05:49)
=============
Maybe you should do some research before you make stupid comments.
Whose facility in Wuhan is it?
Russia has not turned their back on Serbia. Far from it.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Serbia is Russia's and China's useful idiot.
(Time, 13 April 2020 17:08)

Difficult topic. I assume, you assume Russia and China are friends? I hope, I am wrong. 😒

Mayor of Trollhätten

pre 4 godine

Apparently Peggy and sj are suffering from the secondary symptoms of covid19 which include hallucinations, aggrandizing Serbia, and diarrhea of the mouth.
(Joanna, 15 April 2020 23:04)

Most of the time I respectfully disagree with both Peggy and sj.
Respectfully because I know them for probably 15 years.
Thank you for your comment, in all the context above you told everything relevant.

In any case if your keyboard is broken, I am going to send you the best one with Italian design, US key layout and fake ALPS switches, made in China.

$79.99 going to be deducted from your Camp Bondsteel bank account, hope you won't mind it.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Maybe you should do some research
(Peggy, 15 April 2020 05:40)

The usual kbd-warrior character with many names, ho-hum humor and Swedish keyboards made in China. Maybe the "ex-Peggy".

Already pretended to be a Mainland Chinese with a Taiwanese name.
Wouldn't we buy thousands of the controllers from one or the other place I wouldn't notice, but "she" had bad luck again.

I am absolutely against the Chinese Communist Party and supporting Taiwan - but being a laughable fake is not an excuse. At least "she" should chose a name spelling typical for mainland China. Sigh.

Idiot remains an idiot. 🤣😂🙃🙂

Joanna

pre 4 godine

Apparently Peggy and sj are suffering from the secondary symptoms of covid19 which include hallucinations, aggrandizing Serbia, and diarrhea of the mouth.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Why not look at the origin, at it's author, at the critics he got from own colleague and at the comments on The Guardian?

I read all the comments here and find it bizarre, no one looked at the origin.


1) https://tinyurl.com/ul6f7b4

2) The author, Shaun Walker has a related book, called "The Long Hangover" about Russia.
That book received a review from Jonathan Steele, his colleague.

https://tinyurl.com/yatosklj

I do not see any reader comment about 1), but regarding 2) it is interesting to read them and they sound far more mature than what I expected.

Joanna K.

pre 4 godine

China brought the Coronavirus to Serbia, what more do we want, whereas, Russia has turned their back on us. The EU is worse off than Serbia where covid19 is concerned, how can we expect any help from them.

sj

pre 4 godine

Better a useful Chinese and Russian idiot and reaping the rewards than living in poverty while rocking oneself and repeating I want freedom and democracy.
One thing I have learnt with the west and there is no such thing as an interest free loan. Just ask the Croats who now are awaiting with open arms this new Brussels package for EU economies, while Zagreb is trying to sell it as a free money, but its far, far from that.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

China brought the Coronavirus to Serbia, what more do we want, whereas, Russia has turned their back on us. The EU is worse off than Serbia where covid19 is concerned, how can we expect any help from them.
(Joanna K., 14 April 2020 05:49)
=============
Maybe you should do some research before you make stupid comments.
Whose facility in Wuhan is it?
Russia has not turned their back on Serbia. Far from it.

Watcherovic

pre 4 godine

Serbia is Russia's and China's useful idiot.
(Time, 13 April 2020 17:08

@ timeaj - If that's what it takes to reject "kosovaaaaaa" in the UN Security Council...then so be it.

Funny thing is...you Albanians think the americans "love" you, yet they have no clue who you even are and continue to restrict you to "europes newest decomcracy" abortion ghetto....they don't even give you visas to travel!!
Yet...here you are....They "love" us, LOL, LOL

Zhukov

pre 4 godine

Serbia is Russia's and China's useful idiot.
(Time, 13 April 2020 17:08)

Using your comparative scale, Italy and Spain are US-NATO’s brain dead corpses being helped by Sino-Russian vital supplies.

Sreten

pre 4 godine

Few lessons for those who want to join.

When Vucic said that “European solidarity does not exist. It was a fairy tale." one European diplomat quickly reacted.
" It was not exactly what they would want to hear from a government that claims it is doing its utmost to join the EU."

Lesson 1

If you want to join EU, your reaction to them banning export of medical supplies to your country during the crisis should have been "Thank you!" as the only appropriate reaction they want to hear.

"Unlike most of Europe, Serbia is following the Chinese model of isolating..."

"But Serbian officials are hopeful that implementing the strict Chinese measures early will mean the country avoids a large-scale epidemic as seen in western European countries."

Lesson 2

Guardian journalist is right to point this out. If you want to join, you should implement European measures even if it leads to a large-scale epidemic. You should finally decide, what's more important? Saving the lives by implementing measures that worked, or joining EU?

Emit

pre 4 godine

Better to be a useful idiot than a useless excuse for humanity. Time's up Time you'd be dangerous and humourous if you had a brain as big as you think your's is!

Lord Oven

pre 4 godine

It is sad when western block countries fail to support countries in need, they mock recipients and countries that do give generous donations. This article is written in that fashion, dictated by western handlers. What do you expect that we will welcome you with an open arms after bombing us in 1999? And even then there was no help for cleaning of 10 tonnes of depleted uranium. I wish Serbia and Serbian people NEVER forget this.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Maybe you should do some research
(Peggy, 15 April 2020 05:40)

The usual kbd-warrior character with many names, ho-hum humor and Swedish keyboards made in China. Maybe the "ex-Peggy".

Already pretended to be a Mainland Chinese with a Taiwanese name.
Wouldn't we buy thousands of the controllers from one or the other place I wouldn't notice, but "she" had bad luck again.

I am absolutely against the Chinese Communist Party and supporting Taiwan - but being a laughable fake is not an excuse. At least "she" should chose a name spelling typical for mainland China. Sigh.

Idiot remains an idiot. 🤣😂🙃🙂

Joanna

pre 4 godine

Apparently Peggy and sj are suffering from the secondary symptoms of covid19 which include hallucinations, aggrandizing Serbia, and diarrhea of the mouth.

PEN

pre 4 godine

@time,

You carry on playing with your Lego and leave the grown ups to look for solutions to the crisis. Urgent assistance is needed at this time, not sarcastic comments.

Bre

pre 4 godine

Serbia is Russia's and China's useful idiot.
(Time, 13 April 2020 17:08) # Comment link
Recommend (+9)Poor comment (-15)

Well, isn't that nice the EU sent Serbia LOANS....interest free I hope?
(Tom, 13 April 2020 18:37) # Comment link

Ahaha you guys dont have a pot to piss in, while your Kosovo is government free and taxes free, just like we knew alllllll aloooooong....LMAOOOOOOOO...

Saving face was never a k Albo strong point... :)

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Serbia is Russia's and China's useful idiot.
(Time, 13 April 2020 17:08)

Difficult topic. I assume, you assume Russia and China are friends? I hope, I am wrong. 😒

Mayor of Trollhätten

pre 4 godine

Apparently Peggy and sj are suffering from the secondary symptoms of covid19 which include hallucinations, aggrandizing Serbia, and diarrhea of the mouth.
(Joanna, 15 April 2020 23:04)

Most of the time I respectfully disagree with both Peggy and sj.
Respectfully because I know them for probably 15 years.
Thank you for your comment, in all the context above you told everything relevant.

In any case if your keyboard is broken, I am going to send you the best one with Italian design, US key layout and fake ALPS switches, made in China.

$79.99 going to be deducted from your Camp Bondsteel bank account, hope you won't mind it.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Why not look at the origin, at it's author, at the critics he got from own colleague and at the comments on The Guardian?

I read all the comments here and find it bizarre, no one looked at the origin.


1) https://tinyurl.com/ul6f7b4

2) The author, Shaun Walker has a related book, called "The Long Hangover" about Russia.
That book received a review from Jonathan Steele, his colleague.

https://tinyurl.com/yatosklj

I do not see any reader comment about 1), but regarding 2) it is interesting to read them and they sound far more mature than what I expected.