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Thursday, 14.03.2019.

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Kosovo in US report: Attacks on Serbs, Oliver Ivanovic

The US State Department's annual report, presented by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, states tat attacks against Serbs are one of Kosovo's problems.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Roberto

pre 5 godina

Than was Roberto - who had a very sad role: everything he wrote was to 99% correct. The remaining 1% made everyone on the "Serbian" side furious. The worst moments were when I carefully planned how to answer some Serb nationalist stupidity - and Roberto jumped the gun and blew everything in last moment. After few such cases I just exploded on him and now regret it.
(Ataman, 17 March 2019 20:40)

Would you be able to share links to these events?

Ataman

pre 5 godina

I have said this for over 3 years
K Albanians will have to accept dialogue and a compromise with Serbia
and Serbia the same
its eventually coming
(Sam, 16 March 2019 05:00)

Sam, there is nothing Albanian or Serbian here, since probably 15 years.
It's all about personal egoes and how certain people of very different views can deal with each other.

Unfortunately there are few persons here of unknown origin who just try to create more trouble.

One such person could be the infamous "Doot". He is a Canadian Serb - but anytime he can appear as Amerian-Albanian, Croat, Kosovar or I don't know.

You may google on "Doot", he has a nasty blog and he hates anyone on Balkans, no matter what ethnic background they have. His blog is not active since 2015, but I don't hold a candle in his bedroom.

His nick used to be "Danilo" here.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

@B92:

The answer to Glow finally went through. It took a while for me to figure out, the problem was the link to an other topic on B92.
I replaced it with tinyurl - and it worked.

Apologies, but this kind of bug needs to be addressed.

Thank you and please post this comment for everyone's lesson: if there is something wrong, try tinyurl, remove ""-s, ()-s or who knows what.

It is very frustrating.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

B92,

It is 20:33, March 17 2019.
I have a polite answer to Glow, addressing her rudeness and share some B92 memories.

My posting is rejected one attempt after an other. The original text shows up again and again. The count of characters is below 1500.
Captcha is not activated.

macOS 10.6.8, Firefox 48.0.2

If possible post this in public. This is a permanent problem since years and is not addressed.

Thank you.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Your comments are so lame that you are thrown on the same pile of those of Ljiljana's and peggy's comments that are quickly glanced thru but not really read, as they lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time!
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05)

Thank you Glow - in "exchange" for your kindness I asked the Serbian person who pretends to be you stop teasing and be serious.

http://tinyurl.com/y6amptf6


To you and to some degree to Tom.

A while ago three regulars had heated debates on B92. One was "Szemi", a fierce Hungarian-Polish anti-semite with strong dislike to anything Albanian and Jewish. Than there was "Amer", an American with strong sympathy towards Albanians, Yugo, strong reservation about Russians and strong dislike about recent Serbian politics. Than there was Village-Bey who was 200% K-Albanian, largely had same views like Amer. Than was me.

Interestingly, it never came to any quarrel, only mild duels of words.

Than was Roberto - who had a very sad role: everything he wrote was to 99% correct. The remaining 1% made everyone on the "Serbian" side furious. The worst moments were when I carefully planned how to answer some Serb nationalist stupidity - and Roberto jumped the gun and blew everything in last moment. After few such cases I just exploded on him and now regret it.

Roberto is fine, he looks better than ever, is on Facebook and continues his crusade against Russia and Serbia.

I am afraid, the rest is not with us anymore.

Ataman's best friend

pre 5 godina

Your comments are so lame
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05)

This is a very critical moment because this is the time when two guys try to suppress their egos and make peace somehow - because probably they got tired of this stupid quarrel.

To your sheer luck Tom replied somewhere else.

Otherwise: "thanks, but no thanks".

I have to tell you: without quarrel, even if it just a virtual one on B92 it sleeps much better. (Ataman, 16 March 2019 00:22)

Yes, then lets make peace. After all, we live side by side several months of the year. We have to find a way to get along, pal!

Ataman

pre 5 godina

B92, your engine is broken, the page keeps reloading without being posted. This bug is here since ever.
Please fix it, it is very frustrating.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

what was your question then
(Tom L'Orizi, 16 March 2019 03:52)

Even four if you don't mind!

One is that I did observe a nice Albanian person on a web site pacifying some Albanian trolls. The original topic were some football hooligans. His nick was Tom L'Orizi and I was impressed by his role in that quarrel.

The first question: was it you?

You can't answer either 'yes' or 'no'. But neither is perfect.
'Yes' would mean, that you became bitter.
'No' would mean, the unique L'Orizi nick was hijacked on B92.

The question 2

There was a ca. 1500 year long gap between Illyrian pirates and famous Ottoman navy commanders of Albanian origin. No one is able to explain that gap. I brought it up few times, including possible explanations (Thracian origin for instance).

The mud (you are innocent) flew without explanation, why being "Thracian" is so much worse than "Illyrian".

The question 3

Is it a coincidence, that an individual with the nick "Aqif Blyta" appears every single time the conflict on B92 deepens?
And once in a while an abusive, poisonous provocateur with bad, google-translated Hungarian?

Regardless of your answers I have the same reply: hope these creatures disappear in B92 history forever, let's forget them.

The question 4
There is some evidence about Albanian-Illyrian connection.
If I came up that Albanians could be Illyrians from the coast - Albanians start to protest and mud flies. WTF? Are they insane?

Bre

pre 5 godina

Ataman, 15 March 2019 06:25 

Your comments are so lame that you are thrown on the same pile of those of Ljiljana's and peggy's comments that are quickly glanced thru but not really read, as they lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time!
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05) 

And what pile do you think you're on?? #pilocrap Ahahhaajaj you're obsession with this forum is Serbs/Serbia in general is scary. Go watch the movie THE BELIEVER. Ryan Gosling first flick and his best. Plays a hard core skinhead who happens to be a hardcore jew. He obsesses over both sides. That's what you and your lil kla wannabe buddies remind me of. A flock of lost sheep looking for any God to believe in, and apparently a Serbian God to boot. Keep up the entertainment.

Sam

pre 5 godina

I have said this for over 3 years
K Albanians will have to accept dialogue and a compromise with Serbia
and Serbia the same
its eventually coming

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... My answer did not look friendly at all, but it was NOT the answer I wrote or intent to send.

Let's say for the sake of peace that I made a typo and it's my technical mistake. But I believe, I sent slightly a different text to B92 than what I did see afterwards.

What is interesting: you did not answer my original question ever.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 18:57)

Resorting to, I am paraphrasing, "My culture is different from yours hence you don't understand", "I did not write it", "I regret that noz-zica crap..." ... is, to say the least, irresponsible, a sort of throwing the stone and hiding the hand.

By the way, what was your question then?

Ataman

pre 5 godina

definitely the same what I intent to write and grammatically it did not make much sense either.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 18:57)

B92, please, can you at least read what is there?
The word "NOT" was in my original post, now it is missing, duh!
Where it went? To Nirvana?

Tom... there you go. Look at the above. :(

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Your comments are so lame
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05)

This is a very critical moment because this is the time when two guys try to suppress their egos and make peace somehow - because probably they got tired of this stupid quarrel.

To your sheer luck Tom replied somewhere else.

Otherwise: "thanks, but no thanks".

I have to tell you: without quarrel, even if it just a virtual one on B92 it sleeps much better.

sj

pre 5 godina

Ataman, 15 March 2019 06:25

Your comments are so lame that you are thrown on the same pile of those of Ljiljana's and peggy's comments that are quickly glanced thru but not really read, as they lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time!
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05)

You beat me to the punch but not about Ataman, but you. Your comments "lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time".

Glow

pre 5 godina

Ataman, 15 March 2019 06:25

Your comments are so lame that you are thrown on the same pile of those of Ljiljana's and peggy's comments that are quickly glanced thru but not really read, as they lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time!

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Some more to address, Tom.

What I see here on regular basis is that you start attack people.
Most of your attacks are harmless and some even funny.
But some may hurt others deeply.

I regret that noz-zica crap, but as I recall that was a last phase of series of verbal abuses "we" had to endure.
At one point I lost the patience.

An other issue was tragicomic and here B92 is guilty.

If you recall, I asked you about Tom L'Orizi of B92 being the same polite Albanian defending Serbs somewhere else or not.

There was a dialog and my answer was slightly changed somewhere, the text was definitely the same what I intent to write and grammatically it did not make much sense either. My answer did not look friendly at all, but it was NOT the answer I wrote or intent to send.

Let's say for the sake of peace that I made a typo and it's my technical mistake. But I believe, I sent slightly a different text to B92 than what I did see afterwards.

What is interesting: you did not answer my original question ever.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Explain the joke then why instead of "Shiptars" you didn't think of using, for example, "Shkavelli" or "Gedža"?!
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 March 2019 14:32)

I do not know the words "Shkavelli" or "Gedža", only "Shqiptar" or "Shqip". But even if I would, their use in the context would be improper: it would destroy the joke.

Here is a similar example:

"these dirty shkija are the fault that I have no money left in the bank: I went yesterday to Vegas and lost $10K"

The word "shkija" is as bad as "shiptar". But the slender turns to it's opposite because of the logical twist at the end of the sentence.

Translation of the joke above and from yesterday is the same: "sometimes we blame others for our own mistakes".

In the context of the entire article it is a strong pro-Albanian statement.

I should apologize to Serbs, because THEY were offended.
I was shocked by your and "Canadian" reaction because I expected Serbs to scold me.


"Nož, žica" was far worse and by no means a joke.
It was a quarrel and addressing your declared intent to "mock, who are way to curious" on B92. You are right, this was quite ugly and probably hit very deep and it was designed on purpose to make you feel bad. Sorry for that.


Maybe it's your turn now to say something about mocking and trolling by intent...

Ljiljana

pre 5 godina

@albanian will fight to death
There will be no other, should God forbid a Serbian army have an order to cross over into our province.
Read my lips.
There is always proper Albania or 27 EU countries to choose from.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... If something like this makes you feel offended - instead of open aggression you should just ask, was it a joke you did misunderstand or not.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 13:41)

Explain the joke then, and rectify why instead of "Shiptars" you didn't think of using, for example, "Shkavelli" or "Gedža"?!

And, why you think the thread needed a joke?!

I won't be surprised if you say for this below to have been a joke too:

Nož, žica, Srebrenica.
(Albanopolis, 29 October 2018 17:04)

Lobo-Tommy, Azir, Avni & Co. being alive are the proof: neither "nož", nor "žica" were applied properly and diligently.
(Honcho, 30 October 2018 15:13)

https://www.b92.net/eng/comments.php?nav_id=105383

Rocinante with Dapple

pre 5 godina

Rocinante - he is much more rational. Dapple could do too.
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 March 2019 12:13)
Rocinante is "SHE"! Check your grammar, please.

(Hint: not a serious post, this does not intent to offend anyone)

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Do us a favour please, bring back Rocinante - he is much more rational. Dapple could do too.
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 March 2019 12:13)

@ Ataman: 

I don't agree with you that the Albanians are the worst people in the world

(resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada, 15 March 2019 10:30)

Apology to all involved and to who did not understand.
It was a strong self-b*tching (bad?) joke, poking at myself.

A huge part of our culture is this kind of humor.

If something like this makes you feel offended - instead of open aggression you should just ask, was it a joke you did misunderstand or not.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Do us a favour please, bring back Rocinante - he is much more rational. Dapple could do too.
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 March 2019 12:13)

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@ Ataman: 

I don't agree with you that the Albanians are the worst people in the world
(resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada, 15 March 2019 10:30)

I am speechless because both of you completely misunderstood the joke.
Maybe it is my fault - but this shows that joking is very dangerous if the culture is different.
In the joke below I poked into my own ribs, ridiculing myself.
If neither of you can understand or if there is something fishy there
(Why would I say ROFL at the end?) - than just ask.
At worst, the joke will lose any humor it ever had. But no one is hurt.

And that misunderstanding makes me being afraid, the yesterday story with "hatred" and "tea poisoning"
was, too, misunderstood by Ton.

OK, Tom to make things easier for you.
If I am joking - the nick is Rocinante or Dapple or Jez or something like that. "Ataman" is only if I am serious.

If you suspect, something is fishy just ask: "are you sure, you are serious?". That might help.

Otherwise, Tom, B92 sees where I am writing from.
Do not worry, they can pinpoint even the village with ca. 1 km accuracy.

(Hint: I am not joking now)

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

Staff and Glow, please let me allow to tell you the truth - why the worst people in all known universes are Shiptars.

I bought a bunch of pork kidneys because they were on sale. I live now around the Rhine river, the left bank of it being FR, the right being Germany.

I did read on Russian internet, that for pork kidneys you need vodka. I did read on Hungarian internet, that for pork kidneys you need milk.

I decided to be a smartass and get away cooking the kidneys without soaking them in either vodka or milk. My fridge landed up smelling like swine pee, I had to throw out all the kidneys and my damage was about 4 Euro.

This is obviously "Shiptar" fault, not me being lazy to go in the French store to buy milk or to go to the Russian store in Rastatt and buy vodka.

ROFL, peace upon you where you are.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 06:25)

I suspect you might have drank your vodka prematurely and as a result forgot to buy milk, hence the easiest thing is to blame the Albanians for your self caused misfortune and for mistaking Minsk with somewhere between Germany and France. Oh, and for the stench too!

Do us a favour please, bring back Rocinante - he is much more rational. Dapple could do too.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 5 godina

@Albanians stand with I**S:

Not that I expect you to understand but not every single Serb is angelic and if I'm not mistaken during the Kosovo war or crisis Serb forces harmed and massacred ethnic Albanian civilians (there's a difference between them and the KLA),in fact, back in 2000 I watched some documentary on t.v. which I believe is actually from 1999 where some fellow who was interviewed said something about Serb forces barging into homes and shooting 2 year olds ( I'm assuming it's 2 year old ethnic Albanian toddlers) and if it's true that's reprehensible so having mentioned that folks like you would be outraged if the KLA did the same to a 2 year old Serb toddler and as for you Joe after reading your comments I just want to say that some non-Albanians are worse than some Albanians.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 5 godina

@ Ataman:

I don't agree with you that the Albanians are the worst people in the world or on the planet so allow me to tell you that even though I'm proud to be Canadian that wouldn't mean that I'd agree that every fellow Canadian are the best people in the world, in fact, because I had it "tough" during my school years there were alot of Canadians who I hit back out of self defense.

Albanians stand with ISIS

pre 5 godina

I've been following the Kosovo issue ever since the illegal & barbaric NATO bombing campaign of 1999. This is the 1st time I've ever seen the US State Dept. admitting to the fact that K-Albos are persecuting and terrorizing Serbs. The first time in 20 Years. Far too late for certain, but I suppose better late than never. Its no wonder that the resident albo trolls like Glow are so butt-hurt and nervous!

Ataman

pre 5 godina

One thing you might like is that I was bawled by my boss because I have told to much here on the forum that were classified. (In other words, yes I was bitch slapped like all your politicians know all about). 👍👍
(Staff, 14 March 2019 18:48)


Staff and Glow, please let me allow to tell you the truth - why the worst people in all known universes are Shiptars.

I bought a bunch of pork kidneys because they were on sale. I live now around the Rhine river, the left bank of it being FR, the right being Germany.

I did read on Russian internet, that for pork kidneys you need vodka. I did read on Hungarian internet, that for pork kidneys you need milk.

I decided to be a smartass and get away cooking the kidneys without soaking them in either vodka or milk. My fridge landed up smelling like swine pee, I had to throw out all the kidneys and my damage was about 4 Euro.

This is obviously "Shiptar" fault, not me being lazy to go in the French store to buy milk or to go to the Russian store in Rastatt and buy vodka.

ROFL, peace upon you where you are.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

In order to get back your beloved Kosovo you have to deal with 27 million Albanians around the world Who cares what big powers decides.

Keep dreaming.
(Albanians will fight to death for Kosovo, 14 March 2019 14:29
=======================
Which vide game are you going by?
Even if there were that many of you so what? Are you expecting them all to flock to Kosovo and give you a hand.
You're dreaming.

Joe

pre 5 godina

Truth hurts...
Albos will always go where the wind blows, since the wind stopped blowing they got stucked in their pink world of illusion blaming now the EU, the US for their failure to understand that they are nobody,or better say that they are somebody only if they do what their masters are saying. These clows running this lala province have only one place where they should be, behind bars ! Under Mensch like German would say.
Stealing and destroying others property will only bring you misery. You can flater your ego as much as you want it will not change anything to the perception that people have from albos.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

How much longer can the USA support the corrupt Kosovo "government"?
=====================
For as long as they can keep it out of the media and unfortunately that's a long time.
So let's just hope that they've had enough and go in a different direction.
Maybe Trump will tweet it. Ha ha

Glow

pre 5 godina

Staff, 14 March 2019 18:48

Staff, be honest with yourself and stop fantasizing in your la la land. I read plenty, and my reading doesn't include what Serbia's propaganda news say as that is 99% lies and baseless trash. I live in USA and I am very well aware of everything that happens in the world. I am not viewing things thru a narrow and closed mindset that you and your people are. You are so used of selling your bs to serbians that aren't capable of drawing their own conclusions and somehow you feel that your word has any value. Stop trying to sell that forced fake confidence to others.

Still waiting

pre 5 godina

If I was allowed, I would gladly show you thousands of documents you will never be able to see. If I was allowed I would gladly take you with me on meetings in all places with diplomats and top leaders. You know a maximum of 1-2% of whats going on about Kosovo. The thing I have said is that those K Albanians who thinks that Kosovo was a done deal, will be very very disappointed. What you think about me matters not. Not a bit.
You can spew your uneducated #### here on this forum. Its your right, but dont come crying when all is settled in some years.
Try to read something different than albanian and serb media.
One thing you might like is that I was bawled by my boss because I have told to much here on the forum that were classified. (In other words, yes I was ##### slapped like all your politicians know all about). 👍👍
(Staff, 14 March 2019 18:48)

We are still waiting to know which employer or organization you work for that you meet diplomats and top leaders. Would you care to share?

the truth

pre 5 godina

Are you sure this is the right link? Or did you think that we wouldn't check the link? Doesn't mention anything about Serbia.
(Hank the Tank, 14 March 2019 17:58) #

Obviously you are not educated enough to find your own country on that page! That is the preface and check where is written countries, and pick Serbia out of 200 countries and read the report! If you are unable to do that, ask b92 to post entire report about Serbia!

Dapple, the donkey

pre 5 godina

Is it possible to post a link to the report? What would be the lest your could have done in the article.
Looking forward to see it.
(millosh kopiliqi, 14 March 2019 13:04)

Sure, ask Tom.

Kabilic -> (son-of-Kabila) -> son-of-a-female-horse -> Rocinante ->Dapple

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

This information is well known. The shame is that these reports will have little exposure in the western media. However if it was the other way around the press would have a field day.
How much longer can the USA support the corrupt Kosovo "government"? The likes of Thachi, Haradinaj, etc, are part of a mafia involved in all sorts of criminality. And the western powers are well aware of it. The K Albanian leadership will be in power for as long as their sponsors in the west want them. The electorate in Kosovo has no/little say on these criminals.
If any Albanians disagree with my comment I urge you to read the article again, and then again. And then remember who wrote the article....yep, your sponsors.

Staff

pre 5 godina

Staff, are you really that naive or you just playing one to give your people some false hope? I know that people in Serbia at this point will believe anything they hear since they aren't capable of drawing their own conclusions due to being oppressed by the government for all these years. I am thinking that people like you are Serbia's biggest problem, you would much rather lie to yourself than look at the facts and the reality.
(Glow, 14 March 2019 15:41)

You are talking so much nonsense Glow.
If I was allowed, I would gladly show you thousands of documents you will never be able to see. If I was allowed I would gladly take you with me on meetings in all places with diplomats and top leaders. You know a maximum of 1-2% of whats going on about Kosovo. The thing I have said is that those K Albanians who thinks that Kosovo was a done deal, will be very very disappointed. What you think about me matters not. Not a bit.
You can spew your uneducated sh*t here on this forum. Its your right, but dont come crying when all is settled in some years.
Try to read something different than albanian and serb media.
One thing you might like is that I was bawled by my boss because I have told to much here on the forum that were classified. (In other words, yes I was bitch slapped like all your politicians know all about). 👍👍

Hank the Tank

pre 5 godina

You should read the report about Serbia:
[link]

You guys should report to people what is said about Serbia!

the truth

Are you sure this is the right link? Or did you think that we wouldn't check the link? Doesn't mention anything about Serbia.

Ljiljana

pre 5 godina

An open invitation to USA government.
You are welcome to switch sides. And stop barking at the wrong tree.
Including pouring DOLLARS into bottomless black hole that calls itself "independant", "sovereign," kosivo*". A time to rethink your policies.
A so called republic who's citizens frequently make a song& dance of publicly dragging Mr Djuric (serbian politician,) along the streets of our province kosovo *. To them is a norm. Time for USA to stand shoulder to shoulder with mr Vucic.

Милица

pre 5 godina

Срам вас било за тај зарез и додатак имена Оливера Ивановића, и скретање пажње са суштине.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Albanians will blah, blah, blah...
You are kidding us with this 27 million figure, right? Its more like 7m to 8m worldwide. So please stop with the lies.
And Albanians most certainly do care what the big powers decide. Otherwise can you explain crawling up the Americans ass for the last 20 years or so...??

the truth

pre 5 godina

@staff, also b92

You should read the report about Serbia:
https://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/humanrightsreport/index.htm#wrapper

You guys should report to people what is said about Serbia!

Glow

pre 5 godina

(Staff, 14 March 2019 13:36

Staff, are you really that naive or you just playing one to give your people some false hope? I know that people in Serbia at this point will believe anything they hear since they aren't capable of drawing their own conclusions due to being oppressed by the government for all these years. I am thinking that people like you are Serbia's biggest problem, you would much rather lie to yourself than look at the facts and the reality.

PEN

pre 5 godina

@Albanians will fight to death for Kosovo(from their bedroom keyboards):

This figure of 27 million is merely a figment of your over excitable imagination. I doubt there are more than 7 million worldwide. 1.5 million in Kosmet (if you're lucky, given the numbers that have fled to the West). 3.5 million in Albania. This of course includes the prison populations of virtually every country that has a sizeable Albanian community)

Identity

pre 5 godina

You are winning this Serbia. I have never been this sure. (Staff, 14 March 2019 13:36)

If you're so sure about Serbia winning, are you sure enough about your identity as "staff" to kindly share with us the name of the company or organization for which you are "staff"?

Who

pre 5 godina

You are winning this Serbia. I have never been this sure.
(Staff, 14 March 2019 13:36)

Hahahaha you are my favorite. What’s the score now 6:0 or 7:0???? Lol

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 5 godina

Again it's something I mentioned before and again it's sounds far fetched but would the U.S. report declare or decree that one of Kosovo's problems is that if or when there are u.f.o. sightings in that country by ethnic Serbs the ethnic Albanian men in black (m.i.b. are these supposed government agents who are u.f.o. silencers) confront and harass Serb eyewitnesses at their residences and that Pristina does nothing about it. But in Pristina's defense they deny the existence of Albanian m.i.b. and feel they're non-human entities especially if some eyewitnesses claim that they notice some floating matter in the air that morph into human form ( in this case the m.i.b.) and if some eyewitnesses claim that when Albanian m.i.b. speak their voices sound computerized or robotic thus suggesting they're androids or cyborgs and according to the Kosovar govt they don't have the economic means nor the technology to develop androids or cyborgs especially on a massive scale but anything is possible.

Albanians will fight to death for Kosovo

pre 5 godina

The thing Serbia should prioritize for the moment is the revokations of recognitions. I know that there are some coming soon, but the main thing is to get them down to around 90 from the present 102.

You are winning this Serbia. I have never been this sure.
(Staff, 14 March 2019 13:36)

In order to get back your beloved Kosovo you have to deal with 27 million Albanians around the world Who cares what big powers decides.

Keep dreaming.

adrian_bucharest_romania

pre 5 godina

Maybe i and others think that we in Balkan are more important than we really are

that is me conclusion , is about Serbia , Romania , Albania , Bulgaria and others

i think Serbian people are better than Albanian and Bulgarian people

Staff

pre 5 godina

Very good for Serbia (again).

I cannot believe how things have changed the last couple of months in favor for Serbia.

-US, Kosovos ex supporter has warned Pristina over and over again.
-UK is the last one in the row to demand Pristina to abort taxes.
-EU as a whole do not seem to support Kosovo anymore. No visas (that long gone now), no recognitions (the ones which say no are even more keen to say no now), talk bad about EU and Mogherini.

K Albanians makes fool out of themself day after day and more and more people call them clowns and have no respect for them anymore whatsoever.

The thing Serbia should prioritize for the moment is the revokations of recognitions. I know that there are some coming soon, but the main thing is to get them down to around 90 from the present 102.

You are winning this Serbia. I have never been this sure.

millosh kopiliqi

pre 5 godina

Is it possible to post a link to the report? What would be the lest your could have done in the article.
Looking forward to see it.

Sreten

pre 5 godina

The report on the state of human rights by the US State Department.
Here is one example of importance of it. US made $110 billion weapons sale deal with Saudi Arabia. Saudis were soon implicated in scandal over murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. When answering question if this will affect the deal, Pompeo replied: "The policy of this administration is to engage with other governments, regardless of their record, if doing so will further US interests,".
Nothing new.
Thomas Clifton Mann at a conference for all US ambassadors to Latin America in 1964 the US made a decision not to intervene into states run by dictators as they served US economic interests.
Mann Doctrine literally declared that Latin American countries would now be judged on how they promoted US interests, not those of their own people.
Western values and priorities are well known - it's their interests! Amounts on their bank accounts are first and foremost value that they hold so dear...

T

pre 5 godina

Kosovo in a nutshell;
A wannabee independent state plagued by endemic corruption and where attacks on minorities and journalists, especially Serbs (who else but Serbs are in the minority), are the norm.
Kosovars (those who seek independence from Serbia) are obviously not ready to go it alone.
Judging by their behaviour they are in need of supervision, which is exactly what they've got (now) and even so they can't behave themselves in a civilized manner worthy of a nation state.
Given the situation in a nutshell; Kosovo is not ready for independence.

T

pre 5 godina

Pampeo and trump can kiss 💋 Dacic and vucic ass because they are the same no better Kosova is inoccent and now they have pampeo running is mouth about Serbian propaganda good for you that’s why Europe doesn’t believe Serbia for nothing so I hope Kosova don’t make any moves until this trump and Russia Serbia is gone from Washington then make Serbia choose and if they don’t like it it’s too bad long live Kosova 🇦🇱🇽🇰

Staff

pre 5 godina

Very good for Serbia (again).

I cannot believe how things have changed the last couple of months in favor for Serbia.

-US, Kosovos ex supporter has warned Pristina over and over again.
-UK is the last one in the row to demand Pristina to abort taxes.
-EU as a whole do not seem to support Kosovo anymore. No visas (that long gone now), no recognitions (the ones which say no are even more keen to say no now), talk bad about EU and Mogherini.

K Albanians makes fool out of themself day after day and more and more people call them clowns and have no respect for them anymore whatsoever.

The thing Serbia should prioritize for the moment is the revokations of recognitions. I know that there are some coming soon, but the main thing is to get them down to around 90 from the present 102.

You are winning this Serbia. I have never been this sure.

T

pre 5 godina

Kosovo in a nutshell;
A wannabee independent state plagued by endemic corruption and where attacks on minorities and journalists, especially Serbs (who else but Serbs are in the minority), are the norm.
Kosovars (those who seek independence from Serbia) are obviously not ready to go it alone.
Judging by their behaviour they are in need of supervision, which is exactly what they've got (now) and even so they can't behave themselves in a civilized manner worthy of a nation state.
Given the situation in a nutshell; Kosovo is not ready for independence.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Albanians will blah, blah, blah...
You are kidding us with this 27 million figure, right? Its more like 7m to 8m worldwide. So please stop with the lies.
And Albanians most certainly do care what the big powers decide. Otherwise can you explain crawling up the Americans ass for the last 20 years or so...??

PEN

pre 5 godina

@Albanians will fight to death for Kosovo(from their bedroom keyboards):

This figure of 27 million is merely a figment of your over excitable imagination. I doubt there are more than 7 million worldwide. 1.5 million in Kosmet (if you're lucky, given the numbers that have fled to the West). 3.5 million in Albania. This of course includes the prison populations of virtually every country that has a sizeable Albanian community)

Sreten

pre 5 godina

The report on the state of human rights by the US State Department.
Here is one example of importance of it. US made $110 billion weapons sale deal with Saudi Arabia. Saudis were soon implicated in scandal over murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. When answering question if this will affect the deal, Pompeo replied: "The policy of this administration is to engage with other governments, regardless of their record, if doing so will further US interests,".
Nothing new.
Thomas Clifton Mann at a conference for all US ambassadors to Latin America in 1964 the US made a decision not to intervene into states run by dictators as they served US economic interests.
Mann Doctrine literally declared that Latin American countries would now be judged on how they promoted US interests, not those of their own people.
Western values and priorities are well known - it's their interests! Amounts on their bank accounts are first and foremost value that they hold so dear...

Staff

pre 5 godina

Staff, are you really that naive or you just playing one to give your people some false hope? I know that people in Serbia at this point will believe anything they hear since they aren't capable of drawing their own conclusions due to being oppressed by the government for all these years. I am thinking that people like you are Serbia's biggest problem, you would much rather lie to yourself than look at the facts and the reality.
(Glow, 14 March 2019 15:41)

You are talking so much nonsense Glow.
If I was allowed, I would gladly show you thousands of documents you will never be able to see. If I was allowed I would gladly take you with me on meetings in all places with diplomats and top leaders. You know a maximum of 1-2% of whats going on about Kosovo. The thing I have said is that those K Albanians who thinks that Kosovo was a done deal, will be very very disappointed. What you think about me matters not. Not a bit.
You can spew your uneducated sh*t here on this forum. Its your right, but dont come crying when all is settled in some years.
Try to read something different than albanian and serb media.
One thing you might like is that I was bawled by my boss because I have told to much here on the forum that were classified. (In other words, yes I was bitch slapped like all your politicians know all about). 👍👍

adrian_bucharest_romania

pre 5 godina

Maybe i and others think that we in Balkan are more important than we really are

that is me conclusion , is about Serbia , Romania , Albania , Bulgaria and others

i think Serbian people are better than Albanian and Bulgarian people

Ljiljana

pre 5 godina

An open invitation to USA government.
You are welcome to switch sides. And stop barking at the wrong tree.
Including pouring DOLLARS into bottomless black hole that calls itself "independant", "sovereign," kosivo*". A time to rethink your policies.
A so called republic who's citizens frequently make a song& dance of publicly dragging Mr Djuric (serbian politician,) along the streets of our province kosovo *. To them is a norm. Time for USA to stand shoulder to shoulder with mr Vucic.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

This information is well known. The shame is that these reports will have little exposure in the western media. However if it was the other way around the press would have a field day.
How much longer can the USA support the corrupt Kosovo "government"? The likes of Thachi, Haradinaj, etc, are part of a mafia involved in all sorts of criminality. And the western powers are well aware of it. The K Albanian leadership will be in power for as long as their sponsors in the west want them. The electorate in Kosovo has no/little say on these criminals.
If any Albanians disagree with my comment I urge you to read the article again, and then again. And then remember who wrote the article....yep, your sponsors.

Hank the Tank

pre 5 godina

You should read the report about Serbia:
[link]

You guys should report to people what is said about Serbia!

the truth

Are you sure this is the right link? Or did you think that we wouldn't check the link? Doesn't mention anything about Serbia.

Albanians stand with ISIS

pre 5 godina

I've been following the Kosovo issue ever since the illegal & barbaric NATO bombing campaign of 1999. This is the 1st time I've ever seen the US State Dept. admitting to the fact that K-Albos are persecuting and terrorizing Serbs. The first time in 20 Years. Far too late for certain, but I suppose better late than never. Its no wonder that the resident albo trolls like Glow are so butt-hurt and nervous!

Peggy

pre 5 godina

How much longer can the USA support the corrupt Kosovo "government"?
=====================
For as long as they can keep it out of the media and unfortunately that's a long time.
So let's just hope that they've had enough and go in a different direction.
Maybe Trump will tweet it. Ha ha

Ljiljana

pre 5 godina

@albanian will fight to death
There will be no other, should God forbid a Serbian army have an order to cross over into our province.
Read my lips.
There is always proper Albania or 27 EU countries to choose from.

Joe

pre 5 godina

Truth hurts...
Albos will always go where the wind blows, since the wind stopped blowing they got stucked in their pink world of illusion blaming now the EU, the US for their failure to understand that they are nobody,or better say that they are somebody only if they do what their masters are saying. These clows running this lala province have only one place where they should be, behind bars ! Under Mensch like German would say.
Stealing and destroying others property will only bring you misery. You can flater your ego as much as you want it will not change anything to the perception that people have from albos.

T

pre 5 godina

Pampeo and trump can kiss 💋 Dacic and vucic ass because they are the same no better Kosova is inoccent and now they have pampeo running is mouth about Serbian propaganda good for you that’s why Europe doesn’t believe Serbia for nothing so I hope Kosova don’t make any moves until this trump and Russia Serbia is gone from Washington then make Serbia choose and if they don’t like it it’s too bad long live Kosova 🇦🇱🇽🇰

Albanians will fight to death for Kosovo

pre 5 godina

The thing Serbia should prioritize for the moment is the revokations of recognitions. I know that there are some coming soon, but the main thing is to get them down to around 90 from the present 102.

You are winning this Serbia. I have never been this sure.
(Staff, 14 March 2019 13:36)

In order to get back your beloved Kosovo you have to deal with 27 million Albanians around the world Who cares what big powers decides.

Keep dreaming.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

In order to get back your beloved Kosovo you have to deal with 27 million Albanians around the world Who cares what big powers decides.

Keep dreaming.
(Albanians will fight to death for Kosovo, 14 March 2019 14:29
=======================
Which vide game are you going by?
Even if there were that many of you so what? Are you expecting them all to flock to Kosovo and give you a hand.
You're dreaming.

Bre

pre 5 godina

Ataman, 15 March 2019 06:25 

Your comments are so lame that you are thrown on the same pile of those of Ljiljana's and peggy's comments that are quickly glanced thru but not really read, as they lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time!
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05) 

And what pile do you think you're on?? #pilocrap Ahahhaajaj you're obsession with this forum is Serbs/Serbia in general is scary. Go watch the movie THE BELIEVER. Ryan Gosling first flick and his best. Plays a hard core skinhead who happens to be a hardcore jew. He obsesses over both sides. That's what you and your lil kla wannabe buddies remind me of. A flock of lost sheep looking for any God to believe in, and apparently a Serbian God to boot. Keep up the entertainment.

Glow

pre 5 godina

(Staff, 14 March 2019 13:36

Staff, are you really that naive or you just playing one to give your people some false hope? I know that people in Serbia at this point will believe anything they hear since they aren't capable of drawing their own conclusions due to being oppressed by the government for all these years. I am thinking that people like you are Serbia's biggest problem, you would much rather lie to yourself than look at the facts and the reality.

the truth

pre 5 godina

@staff, also b92

You should read the report about Serbia:
https://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/humanrightsreport/index.htm#wrapper

You guys should report to people what is said about Serbia!

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

Staff and Glow, please let me allow to tell you the truth - why the worst people in all known universes are Shiptars.

I bought a bunch of pork kidneys because they were on sale. I live now around the Rhine river, the left bank of it being FR, the right being Germany.

I did read on Russian internet, that for pork kidneys you need vodka. I did read on Hungarian internet, that for pork kidneys you need milk.

I decided to be a smartass and get away cooking the kidneys without soaking them in either vodka or milk. My fridge landed up smelling like swine pee, I had to throw out all the kidneys and my damage was about 4 Euro.

This is obviously "Shiptar" fault, not me being lazy to go in the French store to buy milk or to go to the Russian store in Rastatt and buy vodka.

ROFL, peace upon you where you are.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 06:25)

I suspect you might have drank your vodka prematurely and as a result forgot to buy milk, hence the easiest thing is to blame the Albanians for your self caused misfortune and for mistaking Minsk with somewhere between Germany and France. Oh, and for the stench too!

Do us a favour please, bring back Rocinante - he is much more rational. Dapple could do too.

Who

pre 5 godina

You are winning this Serbia. I have never been this sure.
(Staff, 14 March 2019 13:36)

Hahahaha you are my favorite. What’s the score now 6:0 or 7:0???? Lol

sj

pre 5 godina

Ataman, 15 March 2019 06:25

Your comments are so lame that you are thrown on the same pile of those of Ljiljana's and peggy's comments that are quickly glanced thru but not really read, as they lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time!
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05)

You beat me to the punch but not about Ataman, but you. Your comments "lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time".

Identity

pre 5 godina

You are winning this Serbia. I have never been this sure. (Staff, 14 March 2019 13:36)

If you're so sure about Serbia winning, are you sure enough about your identity as "staff" to kindly share with us the name of the company or organization for which you are "staff"?

millosh kopiliqi

pre 5 godina

Is it possible to post a link to the report? What would be the lest your could have done in the article.
Looking forward to see it.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... If something like this makes you feel offended - instead of open aggression you should just ask, was it a joke you did misunderstand or not.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 13:41)

Explain the joke then, and rectify why instead of "Shiptars" you didn't think of using, for example, "Shkavelli" or "Gedža"?!

And, why you think the thread needed a joke?!

I won't be surprised if you say for this below to have been a joke too:

Nož, žica, Srebrenica.
(Albanopolis, 29 October 2018 17:04)

Lobo-Tommy, Azir, Avni & Co. being alive are the proof: neither "nož", nor "žica" were applied properly and diligently.
(Honcho, 30 October 2018 15:13)

https://www.b92.net/eng/comments.php?nav_id=105383

Glow

pre 5 godina

Ataman, 15 March 2019 06:25

Your comments are so lame that you are thrown on the same pile of those of Ljiljana's and peggy's comments that are quickly glanced thru but not really read, as they lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time!

Милица

pre 5 godina

Срам вас било за тај зарез и додатак имена Оливера Ивановића, и скретање пажње са суштине.

the truth

pre 5 godina

Are you sure this is the right link? Or did you think that we wouldn't check the link? Doesn't mention anything about Serbia.
(Hank the Tank, 14 March 2019 17:58) #

Obviously you are not educated enough to find your own country on that page! That is the preface and check where is written countries, and pick Serbia out of 200 countries and read the report! If you are unable to do that, ask b92 to post entire report about Serbia!

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Some more to address, Tom.

What I see here on regular basis is that you start attack people.
Most of your attacks are harmless and some even funny.
But some may hurt others deeply.

I regret that noz-zica crap, but as I recall that was a last phase of series of verbal abuses "we" had to endure.
At one point I lost the patience.

An other issue was tragicomic and here B92 is guilty.

If you recall, I asked you about Tom L'Orizi of B92 being the same polite Albanian defending Serbs somewhere else or not.

There was a dialog and my answer was slightly changed somewhere, the text was definitely the same what I intent to write and grammatically it did not make much sense either. My answer did not look friendly at all, but it was NOT the answer I wrote or intent to send.

Let's say for the sake of peace that I made a typo and it's my technical mistake. But I believe, I sent slightly a different text to B92 than what I did see afterwards.

What is interesting: you did not answer my original question ever.

Sam

pre 5 godina

I have said this for over 3 years
K Albanians will have to accept dialogue and a compromise with Serbia
and Serbia the same
its eventually coming

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 5 godina

Again it's something I mentioned before and again it's sounds far fetched but would the U.S. report declare or decree that one of Kosovo's problems is that if or when there are u.f.o. sightings in that country by ethnic Serbs the ethnic Albanian men in black (m.i.b. are these supposed government agents who are u.f.o. silencers) confront and harass Serb eyewitnesses at their residences and that Pristina does nothing about it. But in Pristina's defense they deny the existence of Albanian m.i.b. and feel they're non-human entities especially if some eyewitnesses claim that they notice some floating matter in the air that morph into human form ( in this case the m.i.b.) and if some eyewitnesses claim that when Albanian m.i.b. speak their voices sound computerized or robotic thus suggesting they're androids or cyborgs and according to the Kosovar govt they don't have the economic means nor the technology to develop androids or cyborgs especially on a massive scale but anything is possible.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 5 godina

@Albanians stand with I**S:

Not that I expect you to understand but not every single Serb is angelic and if I'm not mistaken during the Kosovo war or crisis Serb forces harmed and massacred ethnic Albanian civilians (there's a difference between them and the KLA),in fact, back in 2000 I watched some documentary on t.v. which I believe is actually from 1999 where some fellow who was interviewed said something about Serb forces barging into homes and shooting 2 year olds ( I'm assuming it's 2 year old ethnic Albanian toddlers) and if it's true that's reprehensible so having mentioned that folks like you would be outraged if the KLA did the same to a 2 year old Serb toddler and as for you Joe after reading your comments I just want to say that some non-Albanians are worse than some Albanians.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 5 godina

@ Ataman:

I don't agree with you that the Albanians are the worst people in the world or on the planet so allow me to tell you that even though I'm proud to be Canadian that wouldn't mean that I'd agree that every fellow Canadian are the best people in the world, in fact, because I had it "tough" during my school years there were alot of Canadians who I hit back out of self defense.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Do us a favour please, bring back Rocinante - he is much more rational. Dapple could do too.
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 March 2019 12:13)

@ Ataman: 

I don't agree with you that the Albanians are the worst people in the world

(resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada, 15 March 2019 10:30)

Apology to all involved and to who did not understand.
It was a strong self-b*tching (bad?) joke, poking at myself.

A huge part of our culture is this kind of humor.

If something like this makes you feel offended - instead of open aggression you should just ask, was it a joke you did misunderstand or not.

Dapple, the donkey

pre 5 godina

Is it possible to post a link to the report? What would be the lest your could have done in the article.
Looking forward to see it.
(millosh kopiliqi, 14 March 2019 13:04)

Sure, ask Tom.

Kabilic -> (son-of-Kabila) -> son-of-a-female-horse -> Rocinante ->Dapple

Glow

pre 5 godina

Staff, 14 March 2019 18:48

Staff, be honest with yourself and stop fantasizing in your la la land. I read plenty, and my reading doesn't include what Serbia's propaganda news say as that is 99% lies and baseless trash. I live in USA and I am very well aware of everything that happens in the world. I am not viewing things thru a narrow and closed mindset that you and your people are. You are so used of selling your bs to serbians that aren't capable of drawing their own conclusions and somehow you feel that your word has any value. Stop trying to sell that forced fake confidence to others.

Still waiting

pre 5 godina

If I was allowed, I would gladly show you thousands of documents you will never be able to see. If I was allowed I would gladly take you with me on meetings in all places with diplomats and top leaders. You know a maximum of 1-2% of whats going on about Kosovo. The thing I have said is that those K Albanians who thinks that Kosovo was a done deal, will be very very disappointed. What you think about me matters not. Not a bit.
You can spew your uneducated #### here on this forum. Its your right, but dont come crying when all is settled in some years.
Try to read something different than albanian and serb media.
One thing you might like is that I was bawled by my boss because I have told to much here on the forum that were classified. (In other words, yes I was ##### slapped like all your politicians know all about). 👍👍
(Staff, 14 March 2019 18:48)

We are still waiting to know which employer or organization you work for that you meet diplomats and top leaders. Would you care to share?

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Explain the joke then why instead of "Shiptars" you didn't think of using, for example, "Shkavelli" or "Gedža"?!
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 March 2019 14:32)

I do not know the words "Shkavelli" or "Gedža", only "Shqiptar" or "Shqip". But even if I would, their use in the context would be improper: it would destroy the joke.

Here is a similar example:

"these dirty shkija are the fault that I have no money left in the bank: I went yesterday to Vegas and lost $10K"

The word "shkija" is as bad as "shiptar". But the slender turns to it's opposite because of the logical twist at the end of the sentence.

Translation of the joke above and from yesterday is the same: "sometimes we blame others for our own mistakes".

In the context of the entire article it is a strong pro-Albanian statement.

I should apologize to Serbs, because THEY were offended.
I was shocked by your and "Canadian" reaction because I expected Serbs to scold me.


"Nož, žica" was far worse and by no means a joke.
It was a quarrel and addressing your declared intent to "mock, who are way to curious" on B92. You are right, this was quite ugly and probably hit very deep and it was designed on purpose to make you feel bad. Sorry for that.


Maybe it's your turn now to say something about mocking and trolling by intent...

Ataman

pre 5 godina

One thing you might like is that I was bawled by my boss because I have told to much here on the forum that were classified. (In other words, yes I was bitch slapped like all your politicians know all about). 👍👍
(Staff, 14 March 2019 18:48)


Staff and Glow, please let me allow to tell you the truth - why the worst people in all known universes are Shiptars.

I bought a bunch of pork kidneys because they were on sale. I live now around the Rhine river, the left bank of it being FR, the right being Germany.

I did read on Russian internet, that for pork kidneys you need vodka. I did read on Hungarian internet, that for pork kidneys you need milk.

I decided to be a smartass and get away cooking the kidneys without soaking them in either vodka or milk. My fridge landed up smelling like swine pee, I had to throw out all the kidneys and my damage was about 4 Euro.

This is obviously "Shiptar" fault, not me being lazy to go in the French store to buy milk or to go to the Russian store in Rastatt and buy vodka.

ROFL, peace upon you where you are.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... My answer did not look friendly at all, but it was NOT the answer I wrote or intent to send.

Let's say for the sake of peace that I made a typo and it's my technical mistake. But I believe, I sent slightly a different text to B92 than what I did see afterwards.

What is interesting: you did not answer my original question ever.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 18:57)

Resorting to, I am paraphrasing, "My culture is different from yours hence you don't understand", "I did not write it", "I regret that noz-zica crap..." ... is, to say the least, irresponsible, a sort of throwing the stone and hiding the hand.

By the way, what was your question then?

Ataman

pre 5 godina

I have said this for over 3 years
K Albanians will have to accept dialogue and a compromise with Serbia
and Serbia the same
its eventually coming
(Sam, 16 March 2019 05:00)

Sam, there is nothing Albanian or Serbian here, since probably 15 years.
It's all about personal egoes and how certain people of very different views can deal with each other.

Unfortunately there are few persons here of unknown origin who just try to create more trouble.

One such person could be the infamous "Doot". He is a Canadian Serb - but anytime he can appear as Amerian-Albanian, Croat, Kosovar or I don't know.

You may google on "Doot", he has a nasty blog and he hates anyone on Balkans, no matter what ethnic background they have. His blog is not active since 2015, but I don't hold a candle in his bedroom.

His nick used to be "Danilo" here.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Your comments are so lame
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05)

This is a very critical moment because this is the time when two guys try to suppress their egos and make peace somehow - because probably they got tired of this stupid quarrel.

To your sheer luck Tom replied somewhere else.

Otherwise: "thanks, but no thanks".

I have to tell you: without quarrel, even if it just a virtual one on B92 it sleeps much better.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

B92,

It is 20:33, March 17 2019.
I have a polite answer to Glow, addressing her rudeness and share some B92 memories.

My posting is rejected one attempt after an other. The original text shows up again and again. The count of characters is below 1500.
Captcha is not activated.

macOS 10.6.8, Firefox 48.0.2

If possible post this in public. This is a permanent problem since years and is not addressed.

Thank you.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Do us a favour please, bring back Rocinante - he is much more rational. Dapple could do too.
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 March 2019 12:13)

-----

@ Ataman: 

I don't agree with you that the Albanians are the worst people in the world
(resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada, 15 March 2019 10:30)

I am speechless because both of you completely misunderstood the joke.
Maybe it is my fault - but this shows that joking is very dangerous if the culture is different.
In the joke below I poked into my own ribs, ridiculing myself.
If neither of you can understand or if there is something fishy there
(Why would I say ROFL at the end?) - than just ask.
At worst, the joke will lose any humor it ever had. But no one is hurt.

And that misunderstanding makes me being afraid, the yesterday story with "hatred" and "tea poisoning"
was, too, misunderstood by Ton.

OK, Tom to make things easier for you.
If I am joking - the nick is Rocinante or Dapple or Jez or something like that. "Ataman" is only if I am serious.

If you suspect, something is fishy just ask: "are you sure, you are serious?". That might help.

Otherwise, Tom, B92 sees where I am writing from.
Do not worry, they can pinpoint even the village with ca. 1 km accuracy.

(Hint: I am not joking now)

Rocinante with Dapple

pre 5 godina

Rocinante - he is much more rational. Dapple could do too.
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 March 2019 12:13)
Rocinante is "SHE"! Check your grammar, please.

(Hint: not a serious post, this does not intent to offend anyone)

Ataman

pre 5 godina

definitely the same what I intent to write and grammatically it did not make much sense either.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 18:57)

B92, please, can you at least read what is there?
The word "NOT" was in my original post, now it is missing, duh!
Where it went? To Nirvana?

Tom... there you go. Look at the above. :(

Ataman

pre 5 godina

B92, your engine is broken, the page keeps reloading without being posted. This bug is here since ever.
Please fix it, it is very frustrating.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

what was your question then
(Tom L'Orizi, 16 March 2019 03:52)

Even four if you don't mind!

One is that I did observe a nice Albanian person on a web site pacifying some Albanian trolls. The original topic were some football hooligans. His nick was Tom L'Orizi and I was impressed by his role in that quarrel.

The first question: was it you?

You can't answer either 'yes' or 'no'. But neither is perfect.
'Yes' would mean, that you became bitter.
'No' would mean, the unique L'Orizi nick was hijacked on B92.

The question 2

There was a ca. 1500 year long gap between Illyrian pirates and famous Ottoman navy commanders of Albanian origin. No one is able to explain that gap. I brought it up few times, including possible explanations (Thracian origin for instance).

The mud (you are innocent) flew without explanation, why being "Thracian" is so much worse than "Illyrian".

The question 3

Is it a coincidence, that an individual with the nick "Aqif Blyta" appears every single time the conflict on B92 deepens?
And once in a while an abusive, poisonous provocateur with bad, google-translated Hungarian?

Regardless of your answers I have the same reply: hope these creatures disappear in B92 history forever, let's forget them.

The question 4
There is some evidence about Albanian-Illyrian connection.
If I came up that Albanians could be Illyrians from the coast - Albanians start to protest and mud flies. WTF? Are they insane?

Ataman's best friend

pre 5 godina

Your comments are so lame
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05)

This is a very critical moment because this is the time when two guys try to suppress their egos and make peace somehow - because probably they got tired of this stupid quarrel.

To your sheer luck Tom replied somewhere else.

Otherwise: "thanks, but no thanks".

I have to tell you: without quarrel, even if it just a virtual one on B92 it sleeps much better. (Ataman, 16 March 2019 00:22)

Yes, then lets make peace. After all, we live side by side several months of the year. We have to find a way to get along, pal!

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Your comments are so lame that you are thrown on the same pile of those of Ljiljana's and peggy's comments that are quickly glanced thru but not really read, as they lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time!
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05)

Thank you Glow - in "exchange" for your kindness I asked the Serbian person who pretends to be you stop teasing and be serious.

http://tinyurl.com/y6amptf6


To you and to some degree to Tom.

A while ago three regulars had heated debates on B92. One was "Szemi", a fierce Hungarian-Polish anti-semite with strong dislike to anything Albanian and Jewish. Than there was "Amer", an American with strong sympathy towards Albanians, Yugo, strong reservation about Russians and strong dislike about recent Serbian politics. Than there was Village-Bey who was 200% K-Albanian, largely had same views like Amer. Than was me.

Interestingly, it never came to any quarrel, only mild duels of words.

Than was Roberto - who had a very sad role: everything he wrote was to 99% correct. The remaining 1% made everyone on the "Serbian" side furious. The worst moments were when I carefully planned how to answer some Serb nationalist stupidity - and Roberto jumped the gun and blew everything in last moment. After few such cases I just exploded on him and now regret it.

Roberto is fine, he looks better than ever, is on Facebook and continues his crusade against Russia and Serbia.

I am afraid, the rest is not with us anymore.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

@B92:

The answer to Glow finally went through. It took a while for me to figure out, the problem was the link to an other topic on B92.
I replaced it with tinyurl - and it worked.

Apologies, but this kind of bug needs to be addressed.

Thank you and please post this comment for everyone's lesson: if there is something wrong, try tinyurl, remove ""-s, ()-s or who knows what.

It is very frustrating.

Roberto

pre 5 godina

Than was Roberto - who had a very sad role: everything he wrote was to 99% correct. The remaining 1% made everyone on the "Serbian" side furious. The worst moments were when I carefully planned how to answer some Serb nationalist stupidity - and Roberto jumped the gun and blew everything in last moment. After few such cases I just exploded on him and now regret it.
(Ataman, 17 March 2019 20:40)

Would you be able to share links to these events?

T

pre 5 godina

Pampeo and trump can kiss 💋 Dacic and vucic ass because they are the same no better Kosova is inoccent and now they have pampeo running is mouth about Serbian propaganda good for you that’s why Europe doesn’t believe Serbia for nothing so I hope Kosova don’t make any moves until this trump and Russia Serbia is gone from Washington then make Serbia choose and if they don’t like it it’s too bad long live Kosova 🇦🇱🇽🇰

Albanians will fight to death for Kosovo

pre 5 godina

The thing Serbia should prioritize for the moment is the revokations of recognitions. I know that there are some coming soon, but the main thing is to get them down to around 90 from the present 102.

You are winning this Serbia. I have never been this sure.
(Staff, 14 March 2019 13:36)

In order to get back your beloved Kosovo you have to deal with 27 million Albanians around the world Who cares what big powers decides.

Keep dreaming.

Who

pre 5 godina

You are winning this Serbia. I have never been this sure.
(Staff, 14 March 2019 13:36)

Hahahaha you are my favorite. What’s the score now 6:0 or 7:0???? Lol

Glow

pre 5 godina

(Staff, 14 March 2019 13:36

Staff, are you really that naive or you just playing one to give your people some false hope? I know that people in Serbia at this point will believe anything they hear since they aren't capable of drawing their own conclusions due to being oppressed by the government for all these years. I am thinking that people like you are Serbia's biggest problem, you would much rather lie to yourself than look at the facts and the reality.

Identity

pre 5 godina

You are winning this Serbia. I have never been this sure. (Staff, 14 March 2019 13:36)

If you're so sure about Serbia winning, are you sure enough about your identity as "staff" to kindly share with us the name of the company or organization for which you are "staff"?

the truth

pre 5 godina

@staff, also b92

You should read the report about Serbia:
https://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/humanrightsreport/index.htm#wrapper

You guys should report to people what is said about Serbia!

adrian_bucharest_romania

pre 5 godina

Maybe i and others think that we in Balkan are more important than we really are

that is me conclusion , is about Serbia , Romania , Albania , Bulgaria and others

i think Serbian people are better than Albanian and Bulgarian people

millosh kopiliqi

pre 5 godina

Is it possible to post a link to the report? What would be the lest your could have done in the article.
Looking forward to see it.

T

pre 5 godina

Kosovo in a nutshell;
A wannabee independent state plagued by endemic corruption and where attacks on minorities and journalists, especially Serbs (who else but Serbs are in the minority), are the norm.
Kosovars (those who seek independence from Serbia) are obviously not ready to go it alone.
Judging by their behaviour they are in need of supervision, which is exactly what they've got (now) and even so they can't behave themselves in a civilized manner worthy of a nation state.
Given the situation in a nutshell; Kosovo is not ready for independence.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 5 godina

Again it's something I mentioned before and again it's sounds far fetched but would the U.S. report declare or decree that one of Kosovo's problems is that if or when there are u.f.o. sightings in that country by ethnic Serbs the ethnic Albanian men in black (m.i.b. are these supposed government agents who are u.f.o. silencers) confront and harass Serb eyewitnesses at their residences and that Pristina does nothing about it. But in Pristina's defense they deny the existence of Albanian m.i.b. and feel they're non-human entities especially if some eyewitnesses claim that they notice some floating matter in the air that morph into human form ( in this case the m.i.b.) and if some eyewitnesses claim that when Albanian m.i.b. speak their voices sound computerized or robotic thus suggesting they're androids or cyborgs and according to the Kosovar govt they don't have the economic means nor the technology to develop androids or cyborgs especially on a massive scale but anything is possible.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 5 godina

@Albanians stand with I**S:

Not that I expect you to understand but not every single Serb is angelic and if I'm not mistaken during the Kosovo war or crisis Serb forces harmed and massacred ethnic Albanian civilians (there's a difference between them and the KLA),in fact, back in 2000 I watched some documentary on t.v. which I believe is actually from 1999 where some fellow who was interviewed said something about Serb forces barging into homes and shooting 2 year olds ( I'm assuming it's 2 year old ethnic Albanian toddlers) and if it's true that's reprehensible so having mentioned that folks like you would be outraged if the KLA did the same to a 2 year old Serb toddler and as for you Joe after reading your comments I just want to say that some non-Albanians are worse than some Albanians.

Glow

pre 5 godina

Staff, 14 March 2019 18:48

Staff, be honest with yourself and stop fantasizing in your la la land. I read plenty, and my reading doesn't include what Serbia's propaganda news say as that is 99% lies and baseless trash. I live in USA and I am very well aware of everything that happens in the world. I am not viewing things thru a narrow and closed mindset that you and your people are. You are so used of selling your bs to serbians that aren't capable of drawing their own conclusions and somehow you feel that your word has any value. Stop trying to sell that forced fake confidence to others.

Staff

pre 5 godina

Very good for Serbia (again).

I cannot believe how things have changed the last couple of months in favor for Serbia.

-US, Kosovos ex supporter has warned Pristina over and over again.
-UK is the last one in the row to demand Pristina to abort taxes.
-EU as a whole do not seem to support Kosovo anymore. No visas (that long gone now), no recognitions (the ones which say no are even more keen to say no now), talk bad about EU and Mogherini.

K Albanians makes fool out of themself day after day and more and more people call them clowns and have no respect for them anymore whatsoever.

The thing Serbia should prioritize for the moment is the revokations of recognitions. I know that there are some coming soon, but the main thing is to get them down to around 90 from the present 102.

You are winning this Serbia. I have never been this sure.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

Staff and Glow, please let me allow to tell you the truth - why the worst people in all known universes are Shiptars.

I bought a bunch of pork kidneys because they were on sale. I live now around the Rhine river, the left bank of it being FR, the right being Germany.

I did read on Russian internet, that for pork kidneys you need vodka. I did read on Hungarian internet, that for pork kidneys you need milk.

I decided to be a smartass and get away cooking the kidneys without soaking them in either vodka or milk. My fridge landed up smelling like swine pee, I had to throw out all the kidneys and my damage was about 4 Euro.

This is obviously "Shiptar" fault, not me being lazy to go in the French store to buy milk or to go to the Russian store in Rastatt and buy vodka.

ROFL, peace upon you where you are.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 06:25)

I suspect you might have drank your vodka prematurely and as a result forgot to buy milk, hence the easiest thing is to blame the Albanians for your self caused misfortune and for mistaking Minsk with somewhere between Germany and France. Oh, and for the stench too!

Do us a favour please, bring back Rocinante - he is much more rational. Dapple could do too.

Glow

pre 5 godina

Ataman, 15 March 2019 06:25

Your comments are so lame that you are thrown on the same pile of those of Ljiljana's and peggy's comments that are quickly glanced thru but not really read, as they lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time!

Staff

pre 5 godina

Staff, are you really that naive or you just playing one to give your people some false hope? I know that people in Serbia at this point will believe anything they hear since they aren't capable of drawing their own conclusions due to being oppressed by the government for all these years. I am thinking that people like you are Serbia's biggest problem, you would much rather lie to yourself than look at the facts and the reality.
(Glow, 14 March 2019 15:41)

You are talking so much nonsense Glow.
If I was allowed, I would gladly show you thousands of documents you will never be able to see. If I was allowed I would gladly take you with me on meetings in all places with diplomats and top leaders. You know a maximum of 1-2% of whats going on about Kosovo. The thing I have said is that those K Albanians who thinks that Kosovo was a done deal, will be very very disappointed. What you think about me matters not. Not a bit.
You can spew your uneducated sh*t here on this forum. Its your right, but dont come crying when all is settled in some years.
Try to read something different than albanian and serb media.
One thing you might like is that I was bawled by my boss because I have told to much here on the forum that were classified. (In other words, yes I was bitch slapped like all your politicians know all about). 👍👍

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 5 godina

@ Ataman:

I don't agree with you that the Albanians are the worst people in the world or on the planet so allow me to tell you that even though I'm proud to be Canadian that wouldn't mean that I'd agree that every fellow Canadian are the best people in the world, in fact, because I had it "tough" during my school years there were alot of Canadians who I hit back out of self defense.

the truth

pre 5 godina

Are you sure this is the right link? Or did you think that we wouldn't check the link? Doesn't mention anything about Serbia.
(Hank the Tank, 14 March 2019 17:58) #

Obviously you are not educated enough to find your own country on that page! That is the preface and check where is written countries, and pick Serbia out of 200 countries and read the report! If you are unable to do that, ask b92 to post entire report about Serbia!

Still waiting

pre 5 godina

If I was allowed, I would gladly show you thousands of documents you will never be able to see. If I was allowed I would gladly take you with me on meetings in all places with diplomats and top leaders. You know a maximum of 1-2% of whats going on about Kosovo. The thing I have said is that those K Albanians who thinks that Kosovo was a done deal, will be very very disappointed. What you think about me matters not. Not a bit.
You can spew your uneducated #### here on this forum. Its your right, but dont come crying when all is settled in some years.
Try to read something different than albanian and serb media.
One thing you might like is that I was bawled by my boss because I have told to much here on the forum that were classified. (In other words, yes I was ##### slapped like all your politicians know all about). 👍👍
(Staff, 14 March 2019 18:48)

We are still waiting to know which employer or organization you work for that you meet diplomats and top leaders. Would you care to share?

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... If something like this makes you feel offended - instead of open aggression you should just ask, was it a joke you did misunderstand or not.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 13:41)

Explain the joke then, and rectify why instead of "Shiptars" you didn't think of using, for example, "Shkavelli" or "Gedža"?!

And, why you think the thread needed a joke?!

I won't be surprised if you say for this below to have been a joke too:

Nož, žica, Srebrenica.
(Albanopolis, 29 October 2018 17:04)

Lobo-Tommy, Azir, Avni & Co. being alive are the proof: neither "nož", nor "žica" were applied properly and diligently.
(Honcho, 30 October 2018 15:13)

https://www.b92.net/eng/comments.php?nav_id=105383

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Albanians will blah, blah, blah...
You are kidding us with this 27 million figure, right? Its more like 7m to 8m worldwide. So please stop with the lies.
And Albanians most certainly do care what the big powers decide. Otherwise can you explain crawling up the Americans ass for the last 20 years or so...??

Ljiljana

pre 5 godina

An open invitation to USA government.
You are welcome to switch sides. And stop barking at the wrong tree.
Including pouring DOLLARS into bottomless black hole that calls itself "independant", "sovereign," kosivo*". A time to rethink your policies.
A so called republic who's citizens frequently make a song& dance of publicly dragging Mr Djuric (serbian politician,) along the streets of our province kosovo *. To them is a norm. Time for USA to stand shoulder to shoulder with mr Vucic.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

One thing you might like is that I was bawled by my boss because I have told to much here on the forum that were classified. (In other words, yes I was bitch slapped like all your politicians know all about). 👍👍
(Staff, 14 March 2019 18:48)


Staff and Glow, please let me allow to tell you the truth - why the worst people in all known universes are Shiptars.

I bought a bunch of pork kidneys because they were on sale. I live now around the Rhine river, the left bank of it being FR, the right being Germany.

I did read on Russian internet, that for pork kidneys you need vodka. I did read on Hungarian internet, that for pork kidneys you need milk.

I decided to be a smartass and get away cooking the kidneys without soaking them in either vodka or milk. My fridge landed up smelling like swine pee, I had to throw out all the kidneys and my damage was about 4 Euro.

This is obviously "Shiptar" fault, not me being lazy to go in the French store to buy milk or to go to the Russian store in Rastatt and buy vodka.

ROFL, peace upon you where you are.

Милица

pre 5 godina

Срам вас било за тај зарез и додатак имена Оливера Ивановића, и скретање пажње са суштине.

Dapple, the donkey

pre 5 godina

Is it possible to post a link to the report? What would be the lest your could have done in the article.
Looking forward to see it.
(millosh kopiliqi, 14 March 2019 13:04)

Sure, ask Tom.

Kabilic -> (son-of-Kabila) -> son-of-a-female-horse -> Rocinante ->Dapple

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

This information is well known. The shame is that these reports will have little exposure in the western media. However if it was the other way around the press would have a field day.
How much longer can the USA support the corrupt Kosovo "government"? The likes of Thachi, Haradinaj, etc, are part of a mafia involved in all sorts of criminality. And the western powers are well aware of it. The K Albanian leadership will be in power for as long as their sponsors in the west want them. The electorate in Kosovo has no/little say on these criminals.
If any Albanians disagree with my comment I urge you to read the article again, and then again. And then remember who wrote the article....yep, your sponsors.

Albanians stand with ISIS

pre 5 godina

I've been following the Kosovo issue ever since the illegal & barbaric NATO bombing campaign of 1999. This is the 1st time I've ever seen the US State Dept. admitting to the fact that K-Albos are persecuting and terrorizing Serbs. The first time in 20 Years. Far too late for certain, but I suppose better late than never. Its no wonder that the resident albo trolls like Glow are so butt-hurt and nervous!

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Do us a favour please, bring back Rocinante - he is much more rational. Dapple could do too.
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 March 2019 12:13)

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@ Ataman: 

I don't agree with you that the Albanians are the worst people in the world
(resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada, 15 March 2019 10:30)

I am speechless because both of you completely misunderstood the joke.
Maybe it is my fault - but this shows that joking is very dangerous if the culture is different.
In the joke below I poked into my own ribs, ridiculing myself.
If neither of you can understand or if there is something fishy there
(Why would I say ROFL at the end?) - than just ask.
At worst, the joke will lose any humor it ever had. But no one is hurt.

And that misunderstanding makes me being afraid, the yesterday story with "hatred" and "tea poisoning"
was, too, misunderstood by Ton.

OK, Tom to make things easier for you.
If I am joking - the nick is Rocinante or Dapple or Jez or something like that. "Ataman" is only if I am serious.

If you suspect, something is fishy just ask: "are you sure, you are serious?". That might help.

Otherwise, Tom, B92 sees where I am writing from.
Do not worry, they can pinpoint even the village with ca. 1 km accuracy.

(Hint: I am not joking now)

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Do us a favour please, bring back Rocinante - he is much more rational. Dapple could do too.
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 March 2019 12:13)

@ Ataman: 

I don't agree with you that the Albanians are the worst people in the world

(resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada, 15 March 2019 10:30)

Apology to all involved and to who did not understand.
It was a strong self-b*tching (bad?) joke, poking at myself.

A huge part of our culture is this kind of humor.

If something like this makes you feel offended - instead of open aggression you should just ask, was it a joke you did misunderstand or not.

Ljiljana

pre 5 godina

@albanian will fight to death
There will be no other, should God forbid a Serbian army have an order to cross over into our province.
Read my lips.
There is always proper Albania or 27 EU countries to choose from.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Explain the joke then why instead of "Shiptars" you didn't think of using, for example, "Shkavelli" or "Gedža"?!
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 March 2019 14:32)

I do not know the words "Shkavelli" or "Gedža", only "Shqiptar" or "Shqip". But even if I would, their use in the context would be improper: it would destroy the joke.

Here is a similar example:

"these dirty shkija are the fault that I have no money left in the bank: I went yesterday to Vegas and lost $10K"

The word "shkija" is as bad as "shiptar". But the slender turns to it's opposite because of the logical twist at the end of the sentence.

Translation of the joke above and from yesterday is the same: "sometimes we blame others for our own mistakes".

In the context of the entire article it is a strong pro-Albanian statement.

I should apologize to Serbs, because THEY were offended.
I was shocked by your and "Canadian" reaction because I expected Serbs to scold me.


"Nož, žica" was far worse and by no means a joke.
It was a quarrel and addressing your declared intent to "mock, who are way to curious" on B92. You are right, this was quite ugly and probably hit very deep and it was designed on purpose to make you feel bad. Sorry for that.


Maybe it's your turn now to say something about mocking and trolling by intent...

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... My answer did not look friendly at all, but it was NOT the answer I wrote or intent to send.

Let's say for the sake of peace that I made a typo and it's my technical mistake. But I believe, I sent slightly a different text to B92 than what I did see afterwards.

What is interesting: you did not answer my original question ever.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 18:57)

Resorting to, I am paraphrasing, "My culture is different from yours hence you don't understand", "I did not write it", "I regret that noz-zica crap..." ... is, to say the least, irresponsible, a sort of throwing the stone and hiding the hand.

By the way, what was your question then?

PEN

pre 5 godina

@Albanians will fight to death for Kosovo(from their bedroom keyboards):

This figure of 27 million is merely a figment of your over excitable imagination. I doubt there are more than 7 million worldwide. 1.5 million in Kosmet (if you're lucky, given the numbers that have fled to the West). 3.5 million in Albania. This of course includes the prison populations of virtually every country that has a sizeable Albanian community)

Sreten

pre 5 godina

The report on the state of human rights by the US State Department.
Here is one example of importance of it. US made $110 billion weapons sale deal with Saudi Arabia. Saudis were soon implicated in scandal over murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. When answering question if this will affect the deal, Pompeo replied: "The policy of this administration is to engage with other governments, regardless of their record, if doing so will further US interests,".
Nothing new.
Thomas Clifton Mann at a conference for all US ambassadors to Latin America in 1964 the US made a decision not to intervene into states run by dictators as they served US economic interests.
Mann Doctrine literally declared that Latin American countries would now be judged on how they promoted US interests, not those of their own people.
Western values and priorities are well known - it's their interests! Amounts on their bank accounts are first and foremost value that they hold so dear...

Peggy

pre 5 godina

How much longer can the USA support the corrupt Kosovo "government"?
=====================
For as long as they can keep it out of the media and unfortunately that's a long time.
So let's just hope that they've had enough and go in a different direction.
Maybe Trump will tweet it. Ha ha

Peggy

pre 5 godina

In order to get back your beloved Kosovo you have to deal with 27 million Albanians around the world Who cares what big powers decides.

Keep dreaming.
(Albanians will fight to death for Kosovo, 14 March 2019 14:29
=======================
Which vide game are you going by?
Even if there were that many of you so what? Are you expecting them all to flock to Kosovo and give you a hand.
You're dreaming.

Rocinante with Dapple

pre 5 godina

Rocinante - he is much more rational. Dapple could do too.
(Tom L'Orizi, 15 March 2019 12:13)
Rocinante is "SHE"! Check your grammar, please.

(Hint: not a serious post, this does not intent to offend anyone)

Hank the Tank

pre 5 godina

You should read the report about Serbia:
[link]

You guys should report to people what is said about Serbia!

the truth

Are you sure this is the right link? Or did you think that we wouldn't check the link? Doesn't mention anything about Serbia.

Joe

pre 5 godina

Truth hurts...
Albos will always go where the wind blows, since the wind stopped blowing they got stucked in their pink world of illusion blaming now the EU, the US for their failure to understand that they are nobody,or better say that they are somebody only if they do what their masters are saying. These clows running this lala province have only one place where they should be, behind bars ! Under Mensch like German would say.
Stealing and destroying others property will only bring you misery. You can flater your ego as much as you want it will not change anything to the perception that people have from albos.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

definitely the same what I intent to write and grammatically it did not make much sense either.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 18:57)

B92, please, can you at least read what is there?
The word "NOT" was in my original post, now it is missing, duh!
Where it went? To Nirvana?

Tom... there you go. Look at the above. :(

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Some more to address, Tom.

What I see here on regular basis is that you start attack people.
Most of your attacks are harmless and some even funny.
But some may hurt others deeply.

I regret that noz-zica crap, but as I recall that was a last phase of series of verbal abuses "we" had to endure.
At one point I lost the patience.

An other issue was tragicomic and here B92 is guilty.

If you recall, I asked you about Tom L'Orizi of B92 being the same polite Albanian defending Serbs somewhere else or not.

There was a dialog and my answer was slightly changed somewhere, the text was definitely the same what I intent to write and grammatically it did not make much sense either. My answer did not look friendly at all, but it was NOT the answer I wrote or intent to send.

Let's say for the sake of peace that I made a typo and it's my technical mistake. But I believe, I sent slightly a different text to B92 than what I did see afterwards.

What is interesting: you did not answer my original question ever.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Your comments are so lame
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05)

This is a very critical moment because this is the time when two guys try to suppress their egos and make peace somehow - because probably they got tired of this stupid quarrel.

To your sheer luck Tom replied somewhere else.

Otherwise: "thanks, but no thanks".

I have to tell you: without quarrel, even if it just a virtual one on B92 it sleeps much better.

Bre

pre 5 godina

Ataman, 15 March 2019 06:25 

Your comments are so lame that you are thrown on the same pile of those of Ljiljana's and peggy's comments that are quickly glanced thru but not really read, as they lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time!
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05) 

And what pile do you think you're on?? #pilocrap Ahahhaajaj you're obsession with this forum is Serbs/Serbia in general is scary. Go watch the movie THE BELIEVER. Ryan Gosling first flick and his best. Plays a hard core skinhead who happens to be a hardcore jew. He obsesses over both sides. That's what you and your lil kla wannabe buddies remind me of. A flock of lost sheep looking for any God to believe in, and apparently a Serbian God to boot. Keep up the entertainment.

sj

pre 5 godina

Ataman, 15 March 2019 06:25

Your comments are so lame that you are thrown on the same pile of those of Ljiljana's and peggy's comments that are quickly glanced thru but not really read, as they lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time!
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05)

You beat me to the punch but not about Ataman, but you. Your comments "lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time".

Sam

pre 5 godina

I have said this for over 3 years
K Albanians will have to accept dialogue and a compromise with Serbia
and Serbia the same
its eventually coming

Ataman

pre 5 godina

B92, your engine is broken, the page keeps reloading without being posted. This bug is here since ever.
Please fix it, it is very frustrating.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

what was your question then
(Tom L'Orizi, 16 March 2019 03:52)

Even four if you don't mind!

One is that I did observe a nice Albanian person on a web site pacifying some Albanian trolls. The original topic were some football hooligans. His nick was Tom L'Orizi and I was impressed by his role in that quarrel.

The first question: was it you?

You can't answer either 'yes' or 'no'. But neither is perfect.
'Yes' would mean, that you became bitter.
'No' would mean, the unique L'Orizi nick was hijacked on B92.

The question 2

There was a ca. 1500 year long gap between Illyrian pirates and famous Ottoman navy commanders of Albanian origin. No one is able to explain that gap. I brought it up few times, including possible explanations (Thracian origin for instance).

The mud (you are innocent) flew without explanation, why being "Thracian" is so much worse than "Illyrian".

The question 3

Is it a coincidence, that an individual with the nick "Aqif Blyta" appears every single time the conflict on B92 deepens?
And once in a while an abusive, poisonous provocateur with bad, google-translated Hungarian?

Regardless of your answers I have the same reply: hope these creatures disappear in B92 history forever, let's forget them.

The question 4
There is some evidence about Albanian-Illyrian connection.
If I came up that Albanians could be Illyrians from the coast - Albanians start to protest and mud flies. WTF? Are they insane?

Ataman's best friend

pre 5 godina

Your comments are so lame
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05)

This is a very critical moment because this is the time when two guys try to suppress their egos and make peace somehow - because probably they got tired of this stupid quarrel.

To your sheer luck Tom replied somewhere else.

Otherwise: "thanks, but no thanks".

I have to tell you: without quarrel, even if it just a virtual one on B92 it sleeps much better. (Ataman, 16 March 2019 00:22)

Yes, then lets make peace. After all, we live side by side several months of the year. We have to find a way to get along, pal!

Ataman

pre 5 godina

B92,

It is 20:33, March 17 2019.
I have a polite answer to Glow, addressing her rudeness and share some B92 memories.

My posting is rejected one attempt after an other. The original text shows up again and again. The count of characters is below 1500.
Captcha is not activated.

macOS 10.6.8, Firefox 48.0.2

If possible post this in public. This is a permanent problem since years and is not addressed.

Thank you.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Your comments are so lame that you are thrown on the same pile of those of Ljiljana's and peggy's comments that are quickly glanced thru but not really read, as they lack any SUBSTANCE and are a complete waste of time!
(Glow, 15 March 2019 19:05)

Thank you Glow - in "exchange" for your kindness I asked the Serbian person who pretends to be you stop teasing and be serious.

http://tinyurl.com/y6amptf6


To you and to some degree to Tom.

A while ago three regulars had heated debates on B92. One was "Szemi", a fierce Hungarian-Polish anti-semite with strong dislike to anything Albanian and Jewish. Than there was "Amer", an American with strong sympathy towards Albanians, Yugo, strong reservation about Russians and strong dislike about recent Serbian politics. Than there was Village-Bey who was 200% K-Albanian, largely had same views like Amer. Than was me.

Interestingly, it never came to any quarrel, only mild duels of words.

Than was Roberto - who had a very sad role: everything he wrote was to 99% correct. The remaining 1% made everyone on the "Serbian" side furious. The worst moments were when I carefully planned how to answer some Serb nationalist stupidity - and Roberto jumped the gun and blew everything in last moment. After few such cases I just exploded on him and now regret it.

Roberto is fine, he looks better than ever, is on Facebook and continues his crusade against Russia and Serbia.

I am afraid, the rest is not with us anymore.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

@B92:

The answer to Glow finally went through. It took a while for me to figure out, the problem was the link to an other topic on B92.
I replaced it with tinyurl - and it worked.

Apologies, but this kind of bug needs to be addressed.

Thank you and please post this comment for everyone's lesson: if there is something wrong, try tinyurl, remove ""-s, ()-s or who knows what.

It is very frustrating.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

I have said this for over 3 years
K Albanians will have to accept dialogue and a compromise with Serbia
and Serbia the same
its eventually coming
(Sam, 16 March 2019 05:00)

Sam, there is nothing Albanian or Serbian here, since probably 15 years.
It's all about personal egoes and how certain people of very different views can deal with each other.

Unfortunately there are few persons here of unknown origin who just try to create more trouble.

One such person could be the infamous "Doot". He is a Canadian Serb - but anytime he can appear as Amerian-Albanian, Croat, Kosovar or I don't know.

You may google on "Doot", he has a nasty blog and he hates anyone on Balkans, no matter what ethnic background they have. His blog is not active since 2015, but I don't hold a candle in his bedroom.

His nick used to be "Danilo" here.

Roberto

pre 5 godina

Than was Roberto - who had a very sad role: everything he wrote was to 99% correct. The remaining 1% made everyone on the "Serbian" side furious. The worst moments were when I carefully planned how to answer some Serb nationalist stupidity - and Roberto jumped the gun and blew everything in last moment. After few such cases I just exploded on him and now regret it.
(Ataman, 17 March 2019 20:40)

Would you be able to share links to these events?