Wednesday, 30.01.2019.
13:28
Kadri Veseli, president of the Kosovo parliament, says Pristina should find relations with the US more important than the taxes imposed on products from Serbia.
Izvor: Tanjug
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""Ata lesh me qime" = "Barbarossa"? LOL. You are right. "
Well, let's just say that Google Translate can only take you so far. "Lesh me Qime" is something entirely different from "Barba", but whatever.
What need did the Albanians have for Russian Navy? They took the submarines and gave the Russian Navy the elbow. Vlora, Vlora!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf0qB-yybRA
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How does that foot taste Ataman?
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(Atalesh, 1 February 2019 16:52)
You successfully proved that Reis family were great naval warriors. Let's not discuss that if you go into their roots, you will see that their upbringing was on Greek islands.
Much simpler:
I see a gap of at least 1500 years, from antique Greece to Reis. This can't happen with Illyrians.
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jugoslavija. you want to talk cohesive...just look at how serbs cant even come to a simple agreement about their own origins and history. there is between 4 and 5 different theories for serb origins. for Albanians there is only Illyrians or daco-thracians. either way serb is the invader and we know this really chaps your hide. it's just a sick joke for you to even talk about such a subject of origins.
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"The Serbs are the oldest race in the Balkans and everyone stems from us - Croatians, Albanians, Bosnians, Slovenians"
That polar vortex must've frozen those two brain cells left in your head.
If Albanians stem from Serbs, how come the two languages have nothing in common?
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(Ata lesh me qime, 1 February 2019 15:38)
"Ata lesh me qime" = "Barbarossa"? LOL. You are right.
But Barbarossa is s Greek (mother side), too.
And spent his on a Greek island, far-far from Albanian lands.
It was a family of exceptional talents.
And the general trend: many Albanians in armies, not that many in the navy.
Than the case with Russian Tsar. He "imported" Orthodox Albanians as warriors and settled them around Odessa. They were good in armies, not much known about Russian navy.
With Illyrian past I expect much more than that. Illyrians were pirates, Albanians just not.
Their most pirate activity was around 17th century in Ulcinj.
Where they were before?
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But who they are than?
(Je¿ gruziñski, lezgiñski, ormiañski i nie albañski, 1 February 2019 06:02)
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Albanians are nomads, folklore passed down throughout the generations have described them for centuries. That is why there is no cohesive Albanian history and for nationalism reasons they take historical figures such as Kastrioti and turned them into Albanian figures.
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Jez, Left-Over Turks, that's who they are... not a mention of Albanians in the Balkans until the 15th century.
(CHi, 1 February 2019 15:39)
1) Frescoes in Decani. Quantity over quality, but nevertheless, the frescoes are Albanian work.
Proof: the "extraterrestial" (ET) motive. Typical for Italy / Kotor, untypical for Serbs.
Unless, of course, we believe in space ships of Judea during Roman times.
2) Orthodox churches in Albania, Greece before Ottomans came
3) Orthodox and Roman-Catholic influence.
4) Albanian writings in Latin and Greek rather than in Arabic
5) Greek war of independence.
6) The case with Giorgio Basta. Italo-Albanian, not Turk.
Large Albanian community in Italy from 15th Century and from 19th Century in southern Russia.
7) Why would Turks hide in large numbers in mountains and appear in Kosovo only after Serbs left for Hungary?
"Turkish" theory does not fit anywhere.
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The Serbs are the oldest race in the Balkans and everyone stems from us - Croatians, Albanians, Bosnians, Slovenians, etc... just a few religious changes over the century, but everyone has Serb blood.
(CHi, 1 February 2019 15:39)
No, Serbs are migrated Sorbs from EastGerman-Czech-Polish triangle.
The same time Croatians are Poles from Krakow area.
The minor language differences are due that.
There are some theories, that Slavs lived at least 1000 years longer on Balkans that we know "officially". Noting supports them.
The area was very sparsely populated, no large kingdom was built.
The Serbian - Bulgarian language line is an other interesting thing.
I did read somewhere the Serbian - Bulgarian language separation started because of hostile Vlachs and Shqips in the mountains.
I can't decide for myself and it is only important when out of nowhere the Vlachs and Shqips start to tell, they invented the Moon and the Jadran.
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How does that foot taste Ataman?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murat_Reis_the_Elder
https://www.academia.edu/6329881/Ottoman_corsairs_in_the_Atlantic_during_the_16th_century_Murat_Rais_the_Albanian_and_the_first_Ottoman_expedition_to_the_Canary_Islands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnaut_Mami
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jun/10/agents-of-empire-knights-corsairs-jesuits-spies-sixteenth-century-mediterranean-noel-malcolm-review
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"The Illyrian theory can't explain why Balkan-Albanians were excellent in Ottoman military - but not in the navy. "
Hayreddin Barbarossa was an Albanian Ottoman admiral of the fleet who was born on the island of Lesbos and died in Constantinople, the Ottoman capital. Barbarossa's naval victories secured Ottoman dominance over the Mediterranean during the mid 16th century, from the Battle of Preveza in 1538 until the Battle of Lepanto in 1571.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayreddin_Barbarossa
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But who they are than?
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Jez, Left-Over Turks, that's who they are... not a mention of Albanians in the Balkans until the 15th century. The greatest revisionist of them all, Hoxha (Turkish surname by the way), tired to associate their history with the Illyrians, just like Hitler with the Arians. Doesn't work! The Serbs are the oldest race in the Balkans and everyone stems from us - Croatians, Albanians, Bosnians, Slovenians, etc... just a few religious changes over the century, but everyone has Serb blood.
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The american, 31 January 2019 15:47
The "american", your english is very revealing! But it is very telling and entertaining that you still try to hide your real identity!
(Glow, 31 January 2019 17:46)
You are welcome to Columbia, South Carolina and I will give you free english lessons Glow.
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Jez, you're statement couldn't be further from the truth.
(Chi, 31 January 2019 16:34)
Forget the eyes- often blue!
You equal the Balkan-Albanian Shqip-s with Albanians from Caucasus.
The Albanians from Caucasus had remarkable achievements about 1000 years BEFORE anyone did notice the existence of Balkan-Albanians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Albania
Their literacy is known since around 430 A.D. As separate ethnic element the Caucasian-Albanians are considered to be Lezg today.
This is their Lezginka folklore style:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HtvH34CmZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC2xCigyJoI
No comment.
Than the engineering achievements.
A typical building of that era is the cathedral in Etchmiadzin (completed 303)
https://tinyurl.com/y6uqod6o
and Cathedral of Bagrat in Kutaisi (11th Century)
https://tinyurl.com/yc4pps7s
The same time the first written document in Balkan-Albanian language is from 15th Century.
No earlier than 700 years after the Etchmiadzin did Albanian churches appeared on Balkan:
https://tinyurl.com/ycl5flf8
It's day and night compared with Etchmiadzin.
Three more churches in Albania Proper (Marmiroi church in Orikum, Holy Trinity church in Berat, and Theotokos in Libohovë). And that's it.
These just can't be the same people.
The Illyrian theory can't explain why Balkan-Albanians were excellent in Ottoman military - but not in the navy.
But who they are than?
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@chi,everything you posted is a distortion of reality. there is no type of evidence to suggest that Albanians carried out any kind of wide scale pre planned organized attacks or crimes againt serb civilians in kosova. that is just another lie fed to serbs in order to justify the heavy hand used by the serb government. it's a fact that majoroty of serbs left kosova due to serbia itself keeping kosova region economically low. on the other hand, the serbian genocidal campaigns of terror against unarmed populations have been well documented in the region for the better part of the last 100 year or more.
In 1937, Serbian intellectual and nationalist Vaso Čubrilović, who had been a member of Young Bosnia, proposed the expulsion of Albanians:
In our examination of colonisation in the south, we hold the view that the only effective means of solving this problem is the mass expulsion of the Albanians. Gradual colonisation has had no success in our country, nor in other countries for that matter. If the state wishes to intervene in favour of its own people in the struggle for land, it can only be successful by acting brutally.
-Vaso Čubrilović, Memorandum
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Albs suffered from 1941 until 1999 under Serbian rule, so even USA is the best ally to Kosova because they have their own interest there we all know that but that does not mean what trump says we will do,absolutely NOT, Albanians should make it clear to USA and rest of the world specialy Serbia.. Kosova was, is, and will always be sways Albanian territory because that's the facts. And if they don't like it we don't care Ramush Harajdinaj is correct in this issue. Peace
(T, 31 January 2019 14:09)
T, maybe after 1941 the Albanians suffered because they were with the Axis - you know Hitler and his Nazis and Mussolini with his Fascists. Yeah, this makes a little more sense now, doesn't it??? And, here's the rest of you history from this point forward. In the late 40's early 50's Hoxha tried to change your identity by revising all the history text books in Alboland to show an identity with people you have NOTHING in common - Illyrians. Tito gives you welfare, and you spend the next 40 years overbreeding KiM - obviously, as seen here, at the expense of education. Then in the late 80's you start raping, murdering and pillaging the Serbian communities in KiM - then, you get your poodies wacked and cry to the West and NATO for help. Late .90's, you end up on the right side of a 78 day bombing campaign by becoming the biggest puppets in the world. Bravo, great history, and I'm sure your gleaming with pride - LOL. Well, you know the rest.... but, it's still not over.
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The american, 31 January 2019 15:47
The "american", your english is very revealing! But it is very telling and entertaining that you still try to hide your real identity!
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And I did observe more blond Albanians than Serbs, if that matters.
(Je¿ kosowski, albañski i weso³y, 31 January 2019 15:40)
Go to Turkey, there are plenty of blondes there including millions of Albanians living there.
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The count of K, no not predicting a date when taxes are removed. Just saying that the taxes will be gone before negotiations start again. When that happens is anyones guess, but the Albanians will remove the taxes sooner or later. Is that clear enough for you?? And Glow, you just keep on playing with words, but watch what happens BEFORE talks begin. I have to question your loyalty to America as well. Just how on earth can you say that Albania/Kosovo are Americas partner..!!?? Get real. Its interesting also to read (from Albanian sources) that Kosovo officials will not be granted visas due to Haradinajs stupidity at not removing taxes. Partners...? Now that is funny.!! From a personal point I hope that the taxes are not suspended, because that hole just keeps getting deeper and the rope around the neck keeps tightening. Great.
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And I did observe more blond Albanians than Serbs, if that matters.
(Je¿ kosowski, albañski i weso³y, 31 January 2019 15:40)
Jez, you're statement couldn't be further from the truth. You can always change your hair color, but you can't change your eye color (contacts are to obvious). Look at the eyes and send me a 500 word report explaining your mistake - double spaced. Listen, the Albanians are so hard-up to revise history and pretend to be someone they're not - Illyrian. So, they will go to any extend to propagate this fallacy. I think if you check if Rita Ora's curtains matched her rug, you'd be pretty disappointed - I would bet you a goat that the rug is black. They probably buy more blonde hair color in KiM and Albania than the US....
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By the way, this Veseli (which means happy in Serbia, just ask Avni and he can put it in capital letters)
(Chi, 30 January 2019 23:18)
Yes, indeed. Even in Polish and of course in Russian it is very similar. But unless you want to tease them there is nothing, really nothing about Albanians and Anatolia or Caucasus.
And I did observe more blond Albanians than Serbs, if that matters.
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............Kosova people matters more than America because the whole discussion is about kosovars, ............but that does not mean what trump says we will do,absolutely NOT, Albanians should make it clear to USA ............... And if they don't like it we don't care Ramush Harajdinaj is correct in this issue and the whole Albanian people ............
(T, 31 January 2019 14:09)
Hahahahahahahaha (And 500 more haha).
You will do exactly as we tell you! No discussion! Period!
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Mr. Donald trump I agree with you America matters more but when we talk about America, now the discussion is about Kosova so Kosova people matters more than America because the whole discussion is about kosovars, they suffered from 1941 until 1999 under Serbian rule, so even USA is the best ally to Kosova because they have their own interest there we all know that but that does not mean what trump says we will do,absolutely NOT, Albanians should make it clear to USA and rest of the world specialy Serbia.. Kosova was, is, and will always be sways Albanian territory because that's the facts. And if they don't like it we don't care Ramush Harajdinaj is correct in this issue and the whole Albanian people should be behind him, NO trade with Serbia and those countries that don't recognize Kosova period, the End... Peace
pre 5 godina
Sit boy sit. Like a good dog. You want treats? Be trained.
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You been saying lots of things but so far your predictions are a big “0”. What are you stuffed with ****? Lol come on make another prediction and give us a timeframe
(Who, 30 January 2019 18:27)
You can lol how much you want who. Its not me who have said those things that you are referring to. Its the US, UN, EU and Russia/China.
After what I have heard and the latest, Kosovo dont have a chance in the world becoming a new state.
Dont you see what is happening with all major players warning you over and over again. Dont you see that the support for Kosovo as a state is falling like the temperature. Dont you see that almost anything the k albanian leadership are going towards the end.
You have tried so many years to get rid of 1244 - No success.
You have tried to get rid of the quarterly meetings at UN - No success.
You have tried to get rid of Special Chambers - No success.
You have treid to hinder the revocations of recognitions - No success.
You have tried to get support for Unesco, Interpol etc. - No success.
I can continue but its pointless. There is more chance to win on the Eurolotto than Kosovo to be a state on day. Not a chance.
Serbia will never recognize Kosovo with the current boundaries. Neither will Russia, China etc.
It looked good for the albanians but that was way back when you had support.
pre 5 godina
President Trump doesn't spend a minute of any month thinking about Kosovo or Serbia.
That doesn't mean there aren't people in the US State Department that do, and I am sure that's where the request came from, the Kosovo desk at the US State Department.
100% tariffs only hurt consumers. What they are really saying is they want to stop all trade with Serbia to punish them. So they should just do that. Close their border, halt all trade. Why fiddle around with taxes if that's what you really want to do?
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The US needs Albania & the Russians need Serbia. To build military bases? Cheers!
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Trump says, US says, France says, Germany says, UK says, Australia says, Papau says - oops, EU says, NATO says, CEFTA says, UN says, Bolton says, everybody says... you get my drift! You Albos, allowing yourselves to be puppets, are now susceptible to "everyone says". You will be told what you can do, when you can do it, and you have no say so - bravo on your achievement. Oh, wait a minute, you haven't achieved anything yet! But, if you did, it was to piss off all your allies.
By the way, this Veseli (which means happy in Serbia, just ask Avni and he can put it in capital letters) character must have a prominent gene from Serbia, he actually looks a little European unlike the rest of you Albo-Turks... dare I say it again, Anatolians! Your Serbian gene pool had been washed out a long time ago! Now, be good little Turks and go back home Istanbul - and, I know, it's not Constantinople...
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What’s more embarrassing : we listening to the master , or you claiming to be powerful and complain it the whole world because of the 100 taxes , and claiming Kosova je serbia Lol
(Who, 30 January 2019 18:38)
@ whoaj - this whole "kosovaaaa" issue is a big fat embarrassment, but not because of you albos. You guys are just cannon-fodder, to be discarded when the thrill wears off.The innocents of KiM, both Albanian & Srb, will be paying the price for this fun game the west likes to play!
The shame is for the West, who in their audacity, thought they could steal & plunder around the world at will!
Now they've run into the hard-headed Srbs, who along side Putin-man, are telling the west to take a hike...kinda like what happened in Syria;)
* Most Srbs might think differently, but my personal opinion is there will be,if not already, a price to pay for the support of Russia...not sure, just my opinion. Nothings free!....especially when it comes to the big dogs in the world.
One thing for sure, Albanians & Srbs will pay the price...that's why the BEST way forward is to accept Vucic's proposal...sit down and come to an agreement that paves the pave for future generations to work together instaed of fighting!
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VIEW FROM UK,
Are you attempting to make a prediction about 100% tariffs possibly being removed, if so, please be time specific.
pre 5 godina
Staff,
By implying you have been in NYC to attend the UN meetings concerned with Kosova’s Imposed 100% tariffs on Serbia, only shows how childish you are. You barely can make yourself understood, what’s more, you don’t sound old enough to travel on your own. Please take some basic English lessons so as to avoid embarrassing yourself further.
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To View from UK, watcher,lol,
Trump has NOT requested anything for the taxes! It looks like B92 did their crafty work of insinuating that Trump requested something. Kosova is negotiating with USA and taxes might suspend temporarily. Kosova might be willing to do this with certain agreements happening between USA and Kosova. Kosova has USA on their side and is not worried that their agreements will not be fulfilled as it used to happen with EU. Kosova is very open to collobarate with US knowing that both countries share the same interests in this dialogue! Serbia is starving for international attention that they get excited even when that attention is directed to other countries!
pre 5 godina
This is a joke. Kadri Veseli himself admitted that he was responsible for increasing taxes from 10% to 100%.
pre 5 godina
There are many benefits of being someones puppet, but there is no honor. When your master wants you to jump, your response is "how high?"
(Ari Gold, 30 January 2019 15:06)
What’s more embarrassing : we listening to the master , or you claiming to be powerful and complain it the whole world because of the 100 taxes , and claiming Kosova je serbia Lol
pre 5 godina
What’s the big deal about this taxes ? They temporarily, so far lol. They won’t hurt serbia, they won’t feel a thing, so live them like that , nobody cares
pre 5 godina
Glow, the taxes will be removed, otherwise no talks. Call it what you like, suspendig, removing, abolishing, blah blah. Thats just playing with words so as to save face. Haradinaj will no doubt blame others when taxes are gone, but thats just to save his own ass. And when taxes are gone Haradinaj will lose authority and power, and perhaps find himself in The Hague to answer for his crimes. But I hope the security services are able to protect those who will testify and expose his crimes (unlike a few years ago when most were murdered or disappeared). So Glow, you keep on trying to play with words....after you all said taxes will remain until Serbia recognises Kosovo. Oh, and there will be no guarantees or promises from the big powers. Watch this space.
pre 5 godina
I have told several times that this has been discussed in NY several weeks and that US, amongst many, are furious and call the Kosovars a lot of bad things.
Anyhow, Ramush is to be bitch slapped again and for those of you that think this has helped the albanians to have a state one day, well I dont have to say anything.
(Staff, 30 January 2019 14:01)
You been saying lots of things but so far your predictions are a big “0”. What are you stuffed with ****? Lol come on make another prediction and give us a timeframe
pre 5 godina
As long as Mr Veseli feels that relations with the U.S. are more imperative than taxes imposed on products imported from Serbia I wonder if some of the reasons why Mr Veseli feels that way is because the U.S.(if I'm using these words in the correct text) was at the forefront of Kosovo's sovereignty and if I read correctly some online articles that Americans visiting and or residing in Kosovo tend to be warmly welcomed.
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They are talking about temporarly suspending taxes under some conditions that USA and EU will have to guarantee or the taxes will be placed again. This is not revoking the taxes!
(Glow, 30 January 2019 16:33)
Dude, No. One. Supports. Your. Idiotic. Tax. Scheme.
You're grasping at straws in some desperate attempt at looking assertive. At best you're being ignored. At worst you're jeopardizing relationships with the very powers that keep you barely surviving on the map.
pre 5 godina
Veseli is making a story to save face cause the west will slap and make them behave.
pre 5 godina
Serbia should hold off on their excitement about the taxes! They are talking about temporarly suspending taxes under some conditions that USA and EU will have to guarantee or the taxes will be placed again. This is not revoking the taxes! The time when Kosova tolerated crap from Serbia is long gone! This is what the USA ambassador in Kosova is suggesting and there is nothing that Trump personally have requested! Trump has more than enough happening at home with his presidency and I doubt he is thinking about the taxes on Serbia.
(Glow, 30 January 2019 16:33)
@ glowaj - I think you're correct! This veseli dude is trying to save face with this "tax" stuff and using the Trump "personally" to do it!
Every knows that Trump has no clue about "kosovaaaa" or even probably Srbija...well, maybe Srbija... only because the concern with them is Russian influence!
Make no mistake...once these "taxes" are revoked ("suspended" is a joke), there won't be no mention of them again. If they are even brought up again, it will be only because "kosovaaaa" will have nothing left to do...and even this will be a joke!
This is all quite normal what is happening...politicians who've bitten off more than they can chew...trying to save face!
pre 5 godina
Serbia should hold off on their excitement about the taxes! They are talking about temporarly suspending taxes under some conditions that USA and EU will have to guarantee or the taxes will be placed again. This is not revoking the taxes! The time when Kosova tolerated crap from Serbia is long gone! This is what the USA ambassador in Kosova is suggesting and there is nothing that Trump personally have requested! Trump has more than enough happening at home with his presidency and I doubt he is thinking about the taxes on Serbia.
pre 5 godina
"These taxes are yuge, the Kosovanians are gonna have to drop 'em"
pre 5 godina
If the US demands, Pristina will withdraw. Independent state, my ass.
There are many benefits of being someones puppet, but there is no honor. When your master wants you to jump, your response is "how high?"
pre 5 godina
I have told several times that this has been discussed in NY several weeks and that US, amongst many, are furious and call the Kosovars a lot of bad things.
Anyhow, Ramush is to be bitch slapped again and for those of you that think this has helped the albanians to have a state one day, well I dont have to say anything.
pre 5 godina
I doubt Trump could find Kosove pn a map and as such I think personal request is stretching it
pre 5 godina
I have told several times that this has been discussed in NY several weeks and that US, amongst many, are furious and call the Kosovars a lot of bad things.
Anyhow, Ramush is to be bitch slapped again and for those of you that think this has helped the albanians to have a state one day, well I dont have to say anything.
pre 5 godina
If the US demands, Pristina will withdraw. Independent state, my ass.
There are many benefits of being someones puppet, but there is no honor. When your master wants you to jump, your response is "how high?"
pre 5 godina
"These taxes are yuge, the Kosovanians are gonna have to drop 'em"
pre 5 godina
Glow, the taxes will be removed, otherwise no talks. Call it what you like, suspendig, removing, abolishing, blah blah. Thats just playing with words so as to save face. Haradinaj will no doubt blame others when taxes are gone, but thats just to save his own ass. And when taxes are gone Haradinaj will lose authority and power, and perhaps find himself in The Hague to answer for his crimes. But I hope the security services are able to protect those who will testify and expose his crimes (unlike a few years ago when most were murdered or disappeared). So Glow, you keep on trying to play with words....after you all said taxes will remain until Serbia recognises Kosovo. Oh, and there will be no guarantees or promises from the big powers. Watch this space.
pre 5 godina
What’s the big deal about this taxes ? They temporarily, so far lol. They won’t hurt serbia, they won’t feel a thing, so live them like that , nobody cares
pre 5 godina
Veseli is making a story to save face cause the west will slap and make them behave.
pre 5 godina
There are many benefits of being someones puppet, but there is no honor. When your master wants you to jump, your response is "how high?"
(Ari Gold, 30 January 2019 15:06)
What’s more embarrassing : we listening to the master , or you claiming to be powerful and complain it the whole world because of the 100 taxes , and claiming Kosova je serbia Lol
pre 5 godina
I doubt Trump could find Kosove pn a map and as such I think personal request is stretching it
pre 5 godina
They are talking about temporarly suspending taxes under some conditions that USA and EU will have to guarantee or the taxes will be placed again. This is not revoking the taxes!
(Glow, 30 January 2019 16:33)
Dude, No. One. Supports. Your. Idiotic. Tax. Scheme.
You're grasping at straws in some desperate attempt at looking assertive. At best you're being ignored. At worst you're jeopardizing relationships with the very powers that keep you barely surviving on the map.
pre 5 godina
Serbia should hold off on their excitement about the taxes! They are talking about temporarly suspending taxes under some conditions that USA and EU will have to guarantee or the taxes will be placed again. This is not revoking the taxes! The time when Kosova tolerated crap from Serbia is long gone! This is what the USA ambassador in Kosova is suggesting and there is nothing that Trump personally have requested! Trump has more than enough happening at home with his presidency and I doubt he is thinking about the taxes on Serbia.
(Glow, 30 January 2019 16:33)
@ glowaj - I think you're correct! This veseli dude is trying to save face with this "tax" stuff and using the Trump "personally" to do it!
Every knows that Trump has no clue about "kosovaaaa" or even probably Srbija...well, maybe Srbija... only because the concern with them is Russian influence!
Make no mistake...once these "taxes" are revoked ("suspended" is a joke), there won't be no mention of them again. If they are even brought up again, it will be only because "kosovaaaa" will have nothing left to do...and even this will be a joke!
This is all quite normal what is happening...politicians who've bitten off more than they can chew...trying to save face!
pre 5 godina
Serbia should hold off on their excitement about the taxes! They are talking about temporarly suspending taxes under some conditions that USA and EU will have to guarantee or the taxes will be placed again. This is not revoking the taxes! The time when Kosova tolerated crap from Serbia is long gone! This is what the USA ambassador in Kosova is suggesting and there is nothing that Trump personally have requested! Trump has more than enough happening at home with his presidency and I doubt he is thinking about the taxes on Serbia.
pre 5 godina
I have told several times that this has been discussed in NY several weeks and that US, amongst many, are furious and call the Kosovars a lot of bad things.
Anyhow, Ramush is to be bitch slapped again and for those of you that think this has helped the albanians to have a state one day, well I dont have to say anything.
(Staff, 30 January 2019 14:01)
You been saying lots of things but so far your predictions are a big “0”. What are you stuffed with ****? Lol come on make another prediction and give us a timeframe
pre 5 godina
Trump says, US says, France says, Germany says, UK says, Australia says, Papau says - oops, EU says, NATO says, CEFTA says, UN says, Bolton says, everybody says... you get my drift! You Albos, allowing yourselves to be puppets, are now susceptible to "everyone says". You will be told what you can do, when you can do it, and you have no say so - bravo on your achievement. Oh, wait a minute, you haven't achieved anything yet! But, if you did, it was to piss off all your allies.
By the way, this Veseli (which means happy in Serbia, just ask Avni and he can put it in capital letters) character must have a prominent gene from Serbia, he actually looks a little European unlike the rest of you Albo-Turks... dare I say it again, Anatolians! Your Serbian gene pool had been washed out a long time ago! Now, be good little Turks and go back home Istanbul - and, I know, it's not Constantinople...
pre 5 godina
You been saying lots of things but so far your predictions are a big “0”. What are you stuffed with ****? Lol come on make another prediction and give us a timeframe
(Who, 30 January 2019 18:27)
You can lol how much you want who. Its not me who have said those things that you are referring to. Its the US, UN, EU and Russia/China.
After what I have heard and the latest, Kosovo dont have a chance in the world becoming a new state.
Dont you see what is happening with all major players warning you over and over again. Dont you see that the support for Kosovo as a state is falling like the temperature. Dont you see that almost anything the k albanian leadership are going towards the end.
You have tried so many years to get rid of 1244 - No success.
You have tried to get rid of the quarterly meetings at UN - No success.
You have tried to get rid of Special Chambers - No success.
You have treid to hinder the revocations of recognitions - No success.
You have tried to get support for Unesco, Interpol etc. - No success.
I can continue but its pointless. There is more chance to win on the Eurolotto than Kosovo to be a state on day. Not a chance.
Serbia will never recognize Kosovo with the current boundaries. Neither will Russia, China etc.
It looked good for the albanians but that was way back when you had support.
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............Kosova people matters more than America because the whole discussion is about kosovars, ............but that does not mean what trump says we will do,absolutely NOT, Albanians should make it clear to USA ............... And if they don't like it we don't care Ramush Harajdinaj is correct in this issue and the whole Albanian people ............
(T, 31 January 2019 14:09)
Hahahahahahahaha (And 500 more haha).
You will do exactly as we tell you! No discussion! Period!
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And I did observe more blond Albanians than Serbs, if that matters.
(Je¿ kosowski, albañski i weso³y, 31 January 2019 15:40)
Jez, you're statement couldn't be further from the truth. You can always change your hair color, but you can't change your eye color (contacts are to obvious). Look at the eyes and send me a 500 word report explaining your mistake - double spaced. Listen, the Albanians are so hard-up to revise history and pretend to be someone they're not - Illyrian. So, they will go to any extend to propagate this fallacy. I think if you check if Rita Ora's curtains matched her rug, you'd be pretty disappointed - I would bet you a goat that the rug is black. They probably buy more blonde hair color in KiM and Albania than the US....
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Albs suffered from 1941 until 1999 under Serbian rule, so even USA is the best ally to Kosova because they have their own interest there we all know that but that does not mean what trump says we will do,absolutely NOT, Albanians should make it clear to USA and rest of the world specialy Serbia.. Kosova was, is, and will always be sways Albanian territory because that's the facts. And if they don't like it we don't care Ramush Harajdinaj is correct in this issue. Peace
(T, 31 January 2019 14:09)
T, maybe after 1941 the Albanians suffered because they were with the Axis - you know Hitler and his Nazis and Mussolini with his Fascists. Yeah, this makes a little more sense now, doesn't it??? And, here's the rest of you history from this point forward. In the late 40's early 50's Hoxha tried to change your identity by revising all the history text books in Alboland to show an identity with people you have NOTHING in common - Illyrians. Tito gives you welfare, and you spend the next 40 years overbreeding KiM - obviously, as seen here, at the expense of education. Then in the late 80's you start raping, murdering and pillaging the Serbian communities in KiM - then, you get your poodies wacked and cry to the West and NATO for help. Late .90's, you end up on the right side of a 78 day bombing campaign by becoming the biggest puppets in the world. Bravo, great history, and I'm sure your gleaming with pride - LOL. Well, you know the rest.... but, it's still not over.
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As long as Mr Veseli feels that relations with the U.S. are more imperative than taxes imposed on products imported from Serbia I wonder if some of the reasons why Mr Veseli feels that way is because the U.S.(if I'm using these words in the correct text) was at the forefront of Kosovo's sovereignty and if I read correctly some online articles that Americans visiting and or residing in Kosovo tend to be warmly welcomed.
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What’s more embarrassing : we listening to the master , or you claiming to be powerful and complain it the whole world because of the 100 taxes , and claiming Kosova je serbia Lol
(Who, 30 January 2019 18:38)
@ whoaj - this whole "kosovaaaa" issue is a big fat embarrassment, but not because of you albos. You guys are just cannon-fodder, to be discarded when the thrill wears off.The innocents of KiM, both Albanian & Srb, will be paying the price for this fun game the west likes to play!
The shame is for the West, who in their audacity, thought they could steal & plunder around the world at will!
Now they've run into the hard-headed Srbs, who along side Putin-man, are telling the west to take a hike...kinda like what happened in Syria;)
* Most Srbs might think differently, but my personal opinion is there will be,if not already, a price to pay for the support of Russia...not sure, just my opinion. Nothings free!....especially when it comes to the big dogs in the world.
One thing for sure, Albanians & Srbs will pay the price...that's why the BEST way forward is to accept Vucic's proposal...sit down and come to an agreement that paves the pave for future generations to work together instaed of fighting!
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Sit boy sit. Like a good dog. You want treats? Be trained.
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The count of K, no not predicting a date when taxes are removed. Just saying that the taxes will be gone before negotiations start again. When that happens is anyones guess, but the Albanians will remove the taxes sooner or later. Is that clear enough for you?? And Glow, you just keep on playing with words, but watch what happens BEFORE talks begin. I have to question your loyalty to America as well. Just how on earth can you say that Albania/Kosovo are Americas partner..!!?? Get real. Its interesting also to read (from Albanian sources) that Kosovo officials will not be granted visas due to Haradinajs stupidity at not removing taxes. Partners...? Now that is funny.!! From a personal point I hope that the taxes are not suspended, because that hole just keeps getting deeper and the rope around the neck keeps tightening. Great.
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And I did observe more blond Albanians than Serbs, if that matters.
(Je¿ kosowski, albañski i weso³y, 31 January 2019 15:40)
Go to Turkey, there are plenty of blondes there including millions of Albanians living there.
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To View from UK, watcher,lol,
Trump has NOT requested anything for the taxes! It looks like B92 did their crafty work of insinuating that Trump requested something. Kosova is negotiating with USA and taxes might suspend temporarily. Kosova might be willing to do this with certain agreements happening between USA and Kosova. Kosova has USA on their side and is not worried that their agreements will not be fulfilled as it used to happen with EU. Kosova is very open to collobarate with US knowing that both countries share the same interests in this dialogue! Serbia is starving for international attention that they get excited even when that attention is directed to other countries!
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VIEW FROM UK,
Are you attempting to make a prediction about 100% tariffs possibly being removed, if so, please be time specific.
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Staff,
By implying you have been in NYC to attend the UN meetings concerned with Kosova’s Imposed 100% tariffs on Serbia, only shows how childish you are. You barely can make yourself understood, what’s more, you don’t sound old enough to travel on your own. Please take some basic English lessons so as to avoid embarrassing yourself further.
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President Trump doesn't spend a minute of any month thinking about Kosovo or Serbia.
That doesn't mean there aren't people in the US State Department that do, and I am sure that's where the request came from, the Kosovo desk at the US State Department.
100% tariffs only hurt consumers. What they are really saying is they want to stop all trade with Serbia to punish them. So they should just do that. Close their border, halt all trade. Why fiddle around with taxes if that's what you really want to do?
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This is a joke. Kadri Veseli himself admitted that he was responsible for increasing taxes from 10% to 100%.
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The american, 31 January 2019 15:47
The "american", your english is very revealing! But it is very telling and entertaining that you still try to hide your real identity!
(Glow, 31 January 2019 17:46)
You are welcome to Columbia, South Carolina and I will give you free english lessons Glow.
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But who they are than?
(Je¿ gruziñski, lezgiñski, ormiañski i nie albañski, 1 February 2019 06:02)
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Albanians are nomads, folklore passed down throughout the generations have described them for centuries. That is why there is no cohesive Albanian history and for nationalism reasons they take historical figures such as Kastrioti and turned them into Albanian figures.
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But who they are than?
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Jez, Left-Over Turks, that's who they are... not a mention of Albanians in the Balkans until the 15th century. The greatest revisionist of them all, Hoxha (Turkish surname by the way), tired to associate their history with the Illyrians, just like Hitler with the Arians. Doesn't work! The Serbs are the oldest race in the Balkans and everyone stems from us - Croatians, Albanians, Bosnians, Slovenians, etc... just a few religious changes over the century, but everyone has Serb blood.
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Mr. Donald trump I agree with you America matters more but when we talk about America, now the discussion is about Kosova so Kosova people matters more than America because the whole discussion is about kosovars, they suffered from 1941 until 1999 under Serbian rule, so even USA is the best ally to Kosova because they have their own interest there we all know that but that does not mean what trump says we will do,absolutely NOT, Albanians should make it clear to USA and rest of the world specialy Serbia.. Kosova was, is, and will always be sways Albanian territory because that's the facts. And if they don't like it we don't care Ramush Harajdinaj is correct in this issue and the whole Albanian people should be behind him, NO trade with Serbia and those countries that don't recognize Kosova period, the End... Peace
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@chi,everything you posted is a distortion of reality. there is no type of evidence to suggest that Albanians carried out any kind of wide scale pre planned organized attacks or crimes againt serb civilians in kosova. that is just another lie fed to serbs in order to justify the heavy hand used by the serb government. it's a fact that majoroty of serbs left kosova due to serbia itself keeping kosova region economically low. on the other hand, the serbian genocidal campaigns of terror against unarmed populations have been well documented in the region for the better part of the last 100 year or more.
In 1937, Serbian intellectual and nationalist Vaso Čubrilović, who had been a member of Young Bosnia, proposed the expulsion of Albanians:
In our examination of colonisation in the south, we hold the view that the only effective means of solving this problem is the mass expulsion of the Albanians. Gradual colonisation has had no success in our country, nor in other countries for that matter. If the state wishes to intervene in favour of its own people in the struggle for land, it can only be successful by acting brutally.
-Vaso Čubrilović, Memorandum
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jugoslavija. you want to talk cohesive...just look at how serbs cant even come to a simple agreement about their own origins and history. there is between 4 and 5 different theories for serb origins. for Albanians there is only Illyrians or daco-thracians. either way serb is the invader and we know this really chaps your hide. it's just a sick joke for you to even talk about such a subject of origins.
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The US needs Albania & the Russians need Serbia. To build military bases? Cheers!
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By the way, this Veseli (which means happy in Serbia, just ask Avni and he can put it in capital letters)
(Chi, 30 January 2019 23:18)
Yes, indeed. Even in Polish and of course in Russian it is very similar. But unless you want to tease them there is nothing, really nothing about Albanians and Anatolia or Caucasus.
And I did observe more blond Albanians than Serbs, if that matters.
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The american, 31 January 2019 15:47
The "american", your english is very revealing! But it is very telling and entertaining that you still try to hide your real identity!
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"The Illyrian theory can't explain why Balkan-Albanians were excellent in Ottoman military - but not in the navy. "
Hayreddin Barbarossa was an Albanian Ottoman admiral of the fleet who was born on the island of Lesbos and died in Constantinople, the Ottoman capital. Barbarossa's naval victories secured Ottoman dominance over the Mediterranean during the mid 16th century, from the Battle of Preveza in 1538 until the Battle of Lepanto in 1571.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayreddin_Barbarossa
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How does that foot taste Ataman?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murat_Reis_the_Elder
https://www.academia.edu/6329881/Ottoman_corsairs_in_the_Atlantic_during_the_16th_century_Murat_Rais_the_Albanian_and_the_first_Ottoman_expedition_to_the_Canary_Islands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnaut_Mami
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jun/10/agents-of-empire-knights-corsairs-jesuits-spies-sixteenth-century-mediterranean-noel-malcolm-review
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The Serbs are the oldest race in the Balkans and everyone stems from us - Croatians, Albanians, Bosnians, Slovenians, etc... just a few religious changes over the century, but everyone has Serb blood.
(CHi, 1 February 2019 15:39)
No, Serbs are migrated Sorbs from EastGerman-Czech-Polish triangle.
The same time Croatians are Poles from Krakow area.
The minor language differences are due that.
There are some theories, that Slavs lived at least 1000 years longer on Balkans that we know "officially". Noting supports them.
The area was very sparsely populated, no large kingdom was built.
The Serbian - Bulgarian language line is an other interesting thing.
I did read somewhere the Serbian - Bulgarian language separation started because of hostile Vlachs and Shqips in the mountains.
I can't decide for myself and it is only important when out of nowhere the Vlachs and Shqips start to tell, they invented the Moon and the Jadran.
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How does that foot taste Ataman?
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(Atalesh, 1 February 2019 16:52)
You successfully proved that Reis family were great naval warriors. Let's not discuss that if you go into their roots, you will see that their upbringing was on Greek islands.
Much simpler:
I see a gap of at least 1500 years, from antique Greece to Reis. This can't happen with Illyrians.
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Jez, you're statement couldn't be further from the truth.
(Chi, 31 January 2019 16:34)
Forget the eyes- often blue!
You equal the Balkan-Albanian Shqip-s with Albanians from Caucasus.
The Albanians from Caucasus had remarkable achievements about 1000 years BEFORE anyone did notice the existence of Balkan-Albanians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Albania
Their literacy is known since around 430 A.D. As separate ethnic element the Caucasian-Albanians are considered to be Lezg today.
This is their Lezginka folklore style:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HtvH34CmZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC2xCigyJoI
No comment.
Than the engineering achievements.
A typical building of that era is the cathedral in Etchmiadzin (completed 303)
https://tinyurl.com/y6uqod6o
and Cathedral of Bagrat in Kutaisi (11th Century)
https://tinyurl.com/yc4pps7s
The same time the first written document in Balkan-Albanian language is from 15th Century.
No earlier than 700 years after the Etchmiadzin did Albanian churches appeared on Balkan:
https://tinyurl.com/ycl5flf8
It's day and night compared with Etchmiadzin.
Three more churches in Albania Proper (Marmiroi church in Orikum, Holy Trinity church in Berat, and Theotokos in Libohovë). And that's it.
These just can't be the same people.
The Illyrian theory can't explain why Balkan-Albanians were excellent in Ottoman military - but not in the navy.
But who they are than?
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(Ata lesh me qime, 1 February 2019 15:38)
"Ata lesh me qime" = "Barbarossa"? LOL. You are right.
But Barbarossa is s Greek (mother side), too.
And spent his on a Greek island, far-far from Albanian lands.
It was a family of exceptional talents.
And the general trend: many Albanians in armies, not that many in the navy.
Than the case with Russian Tsar. He "imported" Orthodox Albanians as warriors and settled them around Odessa. They were good in armies, not much known about Russian navy.
With Illyrian past I expect much more than that. Illyrians were pirates, Albanians just not.
Their most pirate activity was around 17th century in Ulcinj.
Where they were before?
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"The Serbs are the oldest race in the Balkans and everyone stems from us - Croatians, Albanians, Bosnians, Slovenians"
That polar vortex must've frozen those two brain cells left in your head.
If Albanians stem from Serbs, how come the two languages have nothing in common?
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Jez, Left-Over Turks, that's who they are... not a mention of Albanians in the Balkans until the 15th century.
(CHi, 1 February 2019 15:39)
1) Frescoes in Decani. Quantity over quality, but nevertheless, the frescoes are Albanian work.
Proof: the "extraterrestial" (ET) motive. Typical for Italy / Kotor, untypical for Serbs.
Unless, of course, we believe in space ships of Judea during Roman times.
2) Orthodox churches in Albania, Greece before Ottomans came
3) Orthodox and Roman-Catholic influence.
4) Albanian writings in Latin and Greek rather than in Arabic
5) Greek war of independence.
6) The case with Giorgio Basta. Italo-Albanian, not Turk.
Large Albanian community in Italy from 15th Century and from 19th Century in southern Russia.
7) Why would Turks hide in large numbers in mountains and appear in Kosovo only after Serbs left for Hungary?
"Turkish" theory does not fit anywhere.
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""Ata lesh me qime" = "Barbarossa"? LOL. You are right. "
Well, let's just say that Google Translate can only take you so far. "Lesh me Qime" is something entirely different from "Barba", but whatever.
What need did the Albanians have for Russian Navy? They took the submarines and gave the Russian Navy the elbow. Vlora, Vlora!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf0qB-yybRA
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Serbia should hold off on their excitement about the taxes! They are talking about temporarly suspending taxes under some conditions that USA and EU will have to guarantee or the taxes will be placed again. This is not revoking the taxes! The time when Kosova tolerated crap from Serbia is long gone! This is what the USA ambassador in Kosova is suggesting and there is nothing that Trump personally have requested! Trump has more than enough happening at home with his presidency and I doubt he is thinking about the taxes on Serbia.
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There are many benefits of being someones puppet, but there is no honor. When your master wants you to jump, your response is "how high?"
(Ari Gold, 30 January 2019 15:06)
What’s more embarrassing : we listening to the master , or you claiming to be powerful and complain it the whole world because of the 100 taxes , and claiming Kosova je serbia Lol
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I doubt Trump could find Kosove pn a map and as such I think personal request is stretching it
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I have told several times that this has been discussed in NY several weeks and that US, amongst many, are furious and call the Kosovars a lot of bad things.
Anyhow, Ramush is to be bitch slapped again and for those of you that think this has helped the albanians to have a state one day, well I dont have to say anything.
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I have told several times that this has been discussed in NY several weeks and that US, amongst many, are furious and call the Kosovars a lot of bad things.
Anyhow, Ramush is to be bitch slapped again and for those of you that think this has helped the albanians to have a state one day, well I dont have to say anything.
(Staff, 30 January 2019 14:01)
You been saying lots of things but so far your predictions are a big “0”. What are you stuffed with ****? Lol come on make another prediction and give us a timeframe
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If the US demands, Pristina will withdraw. Independent state, my ass.
There are many benefits of being someones puppet, but there is no honor. When your master wants you to jump, your response is "how high?"
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Glow, the taxes will be removed, otherwise no talks. Call it what you like, suspendig, removing, abolishing, blah blah. Thats just playing with words so as to save face. Haradinaj will no doubt blame others when taxes are gone, but thats just to save his own ass. And when taxes are gone Haradinaj will lose authority and power, and perhaps find himself in The Hague to answer for his crimes. But I hope the security services are able to protect those who will testify and expose his crimes (unlike a few years ago when most were murdered or disappeared). So Glow, you keep on trying to play with words....after you all said taxes will remain until Serbia recognises Kosovo. Oh, and there will be no guarantees or promises from the big powers. Watch this space.
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Staff,
By implying you have been in NYC to attend the UN meetings concerned with Kosova’s Imposed 100% tariffs on Serbia, only shows how childish you are. You barely can make yourself understood, what’s more, you don’t sound old enough to travel on your own. Please take some basic English lessons so as to avoid embarrassing yourself further.
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What’s the big deal about this taxes ? They temporarily, so far lol. They won’t hurt serbia, they won’t feel a thing, so live them like that , nobody cares
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"These taxes are yuge, the Kosovanians are gonna have to drop 'em"
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This is a joke. Kadri Veseli himself admitted that he was responsible for increasing taxes from 10% to 100%.
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To View from UK, watcher,lol,
Trump has NOT requested anything for the taxes! It looks like B92 did their crafty work of insinuating that Trump requested something. Kosova is negotiating with USA and taxes might suspend temporarily. Kosova might be willing to do this with certain agreements happening between USA and Kosova. Kosova has USA on their side and is not worried that their agreements will not be fulfilled as it used to happen with EU. Kosova is very open to collobarate with US knowing that both countries share the same interests in this dialogue! Serbia is starving for international attention that they get excited even when that attention is directed to other countries!
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VIEW FROM UK,
Are you attempting to make a prediction about 100% tariffs possibly being removed, if so, please be time specific.
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You been saying lots of things but so far your predictions are a big “0”. What are you stuffed with ****? Lol come on make another prediction and give us a timeframe
(Who, 30 January 2019 18:27)
You can lol how much you want who. Its not me who have said those things that you are referring to. Its the US, UN, EU and Russia/China.
After what I have heard and the latest, Kosovo dont have a chance in the world becoming a new state.
Dont you see what is happening with all major players warning you over and over again. Dont you see that the support for Kosovo as a state is falling like the temperature. Dont you see that almost anything the k albanian leadership are going towards the end.
You have tried so many years to get rid of 1244 - No success.
You have tried to get rid of the quarterly meetings at UN - No success.
You have tried to get rid of Special Chambers - No success.
You have treid to hinder the revocations of recognitions - No success.
You have tried to get support for Unesco, Interpol etc. - No success.
I can continue but its pointless. There is more chance to win on the Eurolotto than Kosovo to be a state on day. Not a chance.
Serbia will never recognize Kosovo with the current boundaries. Neither will Russia, China etc.
It looked good for the albanians but that was way back when you had support.
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The american, 31 January 2019 15:47
The "american", your english is very revealing! But it is very telling and entertaining that you still try to hide your real identity!
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They are talking about temporarly suspending taxes under some conditions that USA and EU will have to guarantee or the taxes will be placed again. This is not revoking the taxes!
(Glow, 30 January 2019 16:33)
Dude, No. One. Supports. Your. Idiotic. Tax. Scheme.
You're grasping at straws in some desperate attempt at looking assertive. At best you're being ignored. At worst you're jeopardizing relationships with the very powers that keep you barely surviving on the map.
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Serbia should hold off on their excitement about the taxes! They are talking about temporarly suspending taxes under some conditions that USA and EU will have to guarantee or the taxes will be placed again. This is not revoking the taxes! The time when Kosova tolerated crap from Serbia is long gone! This is what the USA ambassador in Kosova is suggesting and there is nothing that Trump personally have requested! Trump has more than enough happening at home with his presidency and I doubt he is thinking about the taxes on Serbia.
(Glow, 30 January 2019 16:33)
@ glowaj - I think you're correct! This veseli dude is trying to save face with this "tax" stuff and using the Trump "personally" to do it!
Every knows that Trump has no clue about "kosovaaaa" or even probably Srbija...well, maybe Srbija... only because the concern with them is Russian influence!
Make no mistake...once these "taxes" are revoked ("suspended" is a joke), there won't be no mention of them again. If they are even brought up again, it will be only because "kosovaaaa" will have nothing left to do...and even this will be a joke!
This is all quite normal what is happening...politicians who've bitten off more than they can chew...trying to save face!
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Veseli is making a story to save face cause the west will slap and make them behave.
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Trump says, US says, France says, Germany says, UK says, Australia says, Papau says - oops, EU says, NATO says, CEFTA says, UN says, Bolton says, everybody says... you get my drift! You Albos, allowing yourselves to be puppets, are now susceptible to "everyone says". You will be told what you can do, when you can do it, and you have no say so - bravo on your achievement. Oh, wait a minute, you haven't achieved anything yet! But, if you did, it was to piss off all your allies.
By the way, this Veseli (which means happy in Serbia, just ask Avni and he can put it in capital letters) character must have a prominent gene from Serbia, he actually looks a little European unlike the rest of you Albo-Turks... dare I say it again, Anatolians! Your Serbian gene pool had been washed out a long time ago! Now, be good little Turks and go back home Istanbul - and, I know, it's not Constantinople...
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By the way, this Veseli (which means happy in Serbia, just ask Avni and he can put it in capital letters)
(Chi, 30 January 2019 23:18)
Yes, indeed. Even in Polish and of course in Russian it is very similar. But unless you want to tease them there is nothing, really nothing about Albanians and Anatolia or Caucasus.
And I did observe more blond Albanians than Serbs, if that matters.
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As long as Mr Veseli feels that relations with the U.S. are more imperative than taxes imposed on products imported from Serbia I wonder if some of the reasons why Mr Veseli feels that way is because the U.S.(if I'm using these words in the correct text) was at the forefront of Kosovo's sovereignty and if I read correctly some online articles that Americans visiting and or residing in Kosovo tend to be warmly welcomed.
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Mr. Donald trump I agree with you America matters more but when we talk about America, now the discussion is about Kosova so Kosova people matters more than America because the whole discussion is about kosovars, they suffered from 1941 until 1999 under Serbian rule, so even USA is the best ally to Kosova because they have their own interest there we all know that but that does not mean what trump says we will do,absolutely NOT, Albanians should make it clear to USA and rest of the world specialy Serbia.. Kosova was, is, and will always be sways Albanian territory because that's the facts. And if they don't like it we don't care Ramush Harajdinaj is correct in this issue and the whole Albanian people should be behind him, NO trade with Serbia and those countries that don't recognize Kosova period, the End... Peace
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jugoslavija. you want to talk cohesive...just look at how serbs cant even come to a simple agreement about their own origins and history. there is between 4 and 5 different theories for serb origins. for Albanians there is only Illyrians or daco-thracians. either way serb is the invader and we know this really chaps your hide. it's just a sick joke for you to even talk about such a subject of origins.
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What’s more embarrassing : we listening to the master , or you claiming to be powerful and complain it the whole world because of the 100 taxes , and claiming Kosova je serbia Lol
(Who, 30 January 2019 18:38)
@ whoaj - this whole "kosovaaaa" issue is a big fat embarrassment, but not because of you albos. You guys are just cannon-fodder, to be discarded when the thrill wears off.The innocents of KiM, both Albanian & Srb, will be paying the price for this fun game the west likes to play!
The shame is for the West, who in their audacity, thought they could steal & plunder around the world at will!
Now they've run into the hard-headed Srbs, who along side Putin-man, are telling the west to take a hike...kinda like what happened in Syria;)
* Most Srbs might think differently, but my personal opinion is there will be,if not already, a price to pay for the support of Russia...not sure, just my opinion. Nothings free!....especially when it comes to the big dogs in the world.
One thing for sure, Albanians & Srbs will pay the price...that's why the BEST way forward is to accept Vucic's proposal...sit down and come to an agreement that paves the pave for future generations to work together instaed of fighting!
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President Trump doesn't spend a minute of any month thinking about Kosovo or Serbia.
That doesn't mean there aren't people in the US State Department that do, and I am sure that's where the request came from, the Kosovo desk at the US State Department.
100% tariffs only hurt consumers. What they are really saying is they want to stop all trade with Serbia to punish them. So they should just do that. Close their border, halt all trade. Why fiddle around with taxes if that's what you really want to do?
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............Kosova people matters more than America because the whole discussion is about kosovars, ............but that does not mean what trump says we will do,absolutely NOT, Albanians should make it clear to USA ............... And if they don't like it we don't care Ramush Harajdinaj is correct in this issue and the whole Albanian people ............
(T, 31 January 2019 14:09)
Hahahahahahahaha (And 500 more haha).
You will do exactly as we tell you! No discussion! Period!
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And I did observe more blond Albanians than Serbs, if that matters.
(Je¿ kosowski, albañski i weso³y, 31 January 2019 15:40)
Jez, you're statement couldn't be further from the truth. You can always change your hair color, but you can't change your eye color (contacts are to obvious). Look at the eyes and send me a 500 word report explaining your mistake - double spaced. Listen, the Albanians are so hard-up to revise history and pretend to be someone they're not - Illyrian. So, they will go to any extend to propagate this fallacy. I think if you check if Rita Ora's curtains matched her rug, you'd be pretty disappointed - I would bet you a goat that the rug is black. They probably buy more blonde hair color in KiM and Albania than the US....
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@chi,everything you posted is a distortion of reality. there is no type of evidence to suggest that Albanians carried out any kind of wide scale pre planned organized attacks or crimes againt serb civilians in kosova. that is just another lie fed to serbs in order to justify the heavy hand used by the serb government. it's a fact that majoroty of serbs left kosova due to serbia itself keeping kosova region economically low. on the other hand, the serbian genocidal campaigns of terror against unarmed populations have been well documented in the region for the better part of the last 100 year or more.
In 1937, Serbian intellectual and nationalist Vaso Čubrilović, who had been a member of Young Bosnia, proposed the expulsion of Albanians:
In our examination of colonisation in the south, we hold the view that the only effective means of solving this problem is the mass expulsion of the Albanians. Gradual colonisation has had no success in our country, nor in other countries for that matter. If the state wishes to intervene in favour of its own people in the struggle for land, it can only be successful by acting brutally.
-Vaso Čubrilović, Memorandum
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"The Serbs are the oldest race in the Balkans and everyone stems from us - Croatians, Albanians, Bosnians, Slovenians"
That polar vortex must've frozen those two brain cells left in your head.
If Albanians stem from Serbs, how come the two languages have nothing in common?
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The US needs Albania & the Russians need Serbia. To build military bases? Cheers!
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Sit boy sit. Like a good dog. You want treats? Be trained.
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The count of K, no not predicting a date when taxes are removed. Just saying that the taxes will be gone before negotiations start again. When that happens is anyones guess, but the Albanians will remove the taxes sooner or later. Is that clear enough for you?? And Glow, you just keep on playing with words, but watch what happens BEFORE talks begin. I have to question your loyalty to America as well. Just how on earth can you say that Albania/Kosovo are Americas partner..!!?? Get real. Its interesting also to read (from Albanian sources) that Kosovo officials will not be granted visas due to Haradinajs stupidity at not removing taxes. Partners...? Now that is funny.!! From a personal point I hope that the taxes are not suspended, because that hole just keeps getting deeper and the rope around the neck keeps tightening. Great.
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Albs suffered from 1941 until 1999 under Serbian rule, so even USA is the best ally to Kosova because they have their own interest there we all know that but that does not mean what trump says we will do,absolutely NOT, Albanians should make it clear to USA and rest of the world specialy Serbia.. Kosova was, is, and will always be sways Albanian territory because that's the facts. And if they don't like it we don't care Ramush Harajdinaj is correct in this issue. Peace
(T, 31 January 2019 14:09)
T, maybe after 1941 the Albanians suffered because they were with the Axis - you know Hitler and his Nazis and Mussolini with his Fascists. Yeah, this makes a little more sense now, doesn't it??? And, here's the rest of you history from this point forward. In the late 40's early 50's Hoxha tried to change your identity by revising all the history text books in Alboland to show an identity with people you have NOTHING in common - Illyrians. Tito gives you welfare, and you spend the next 40 years overbreeding KiM - obviously, as seen here, at the expense of education. Then in the late 80's you start raping, murdering and pillaging the Serbian communities in KiM - then, you get your poodies wacked and cry to the West and NATO for help. Late .90's, you end up on the right side of a 78 day bombing campaign by becoming the biggest puppets in the world. Bravo, great history, and I'm sure your gleaming with pride - LOL. Well, you know the rest.... but, it's still not over.
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The american, 31 January 2019 15:47
The "american", your english is very revealing! But it is very telling and entertaining that you still try to hide your real identity!
(Glow, 31 January 2019 17:46)
You are welcome to Columbia, South Carolina and I will give you free english lessons Glow.
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Jez, Left-Over Turks, that's who they are... not a mention of Albanians in the Balkans until the 15th century.
(CHi, 1 February 2019 15:39)
1) Frescoes in Decani. Quantity over quality, but nevertheless, the frescoes are Albanian work.
Proof: the "extraterrestial" (ET) motive. Typical for Italy / Kotor, untypical for Serbs.
Unless, of course, we believe in space ships of Judea during Roman times.
2) Orthodox churches in Albania, Greece before Ottomans came
3) Orthodox and Roman-Catholic influence.
4) Albanian writings in Latin and Greek rather than in Arabic
5) Greek war of independence.
6) The case with Giorgio Basta. Italo-Albanian, not Turk.
Large Albanian community in Italy from 15th Century and from 19th Century in southern Russia.
7) Why would Turks hide in large numbers in mountains and appear in Kosovo only after Serbs left for Hungary?
"Turkish" theory does not fit anywhere.
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""Ata lesh me qime" = "Barbarossa"? LOL. You are right. "
Well, let's just say that Google Translate can only take you so far. "Lesh me Qime" is something entirely different from "Barba", but whatever.
What need did the Albanians have for Russian Navy? They took the submarines and gave the Russian Navy the elbow. Vlora, Vlora!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf0qB-yybRA
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And I did observe more blond Albanians than Serbs, if that matters.
(Je¿ kosowski, albañski i weso³y, 31 January 2019 15:40)
Go to Turkey, there are plenty of blondes there including millions of Albanians living there.
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Jez, you're statement couldn't be further from the truth.
(Chi, 31 January 2019 16:34)
Forget the eyes- often blue!
You equal the Balkan-Albanian Shqip-s with Albanians from Caucasus.
The Albanians from Caucasus had remarkable achievements about 1000 years BEFORE anyone did notice the existence of Balkan-Albanians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Albania
Their literacy is known since around 430 A.D. As separate ethnic element the Caucasian-Albanians are considered to be Lezg today.
This is their Lezginka folklore style:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HtvH34CmZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC2xCigyJoI
No comment.
Than the engineering achievements.
A typical building of that era is the cathedral in Etchmiadzin (completed 303)
https://tinyurl.com/y6uqod6o
and Cathedral of Bagrat in Kutaisi (11th Century)
https://tinyurl.com/yc4pps7s
The same time the first written document in Balkan-Albanian language is from 15th Century.
No earlier than 700 years after the Etchmiadzin did Albanian churches appeared on Balkan:
https://tinyurl.com/ycl5flf8
It's day and night compared with Etchmiadzin.
Three more churches in Albania Proper (Marmiroi church in Orikum, Holy Trinity church in Berat, and Theotokos in Libohovë). And that's it.
These just can't be the same people.
The Illyrian theory can't explain why Balkan-Albanians were excellent in Ottoman military - but not in the navy.
But who they are than?
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"The Illyrian theory can't explain why Balkan-Albanians were excellent in Ottoman military - but not in the navy. "
Hayreddin Barbarossa was an Albanian Ottoman admiral of the fleet who was born on the island of Lesbos and died in Constantinople, the Ottoman capital. Barbarossa's naval victories secured Ottoman dominance over the Mediterranean during the mid 16th century, from the Battle of Preveza in 1538 until the Battle of Lepanto in 1571.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayreddin_Barbarossa
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But who they are than?
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Jez, Left-Over Turks, that's who they are... not a mention of Albanians in the Balkans until the 15th century. The greatest revisionist of them all, Hoxha (Turkish surname by the way), tired to associate their history with the Illyrians, just like Hitler with the Arians. Doesn't work! The Serbs are the oldest race in the Balkans and everyone stems from us - Croatians, Albanians, Bosnians, Slovenians, etc... just a few religious changes over the century, but everyone has Serb blood.
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How does that foot taste Ataman?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murat_Reis_the_Elder
https://www.academia.edu/6329881/Ottoman_corsairs_in_the_Atlantic_during_the_16th_century_Murat_Rais_the_Albanian_and_the_first_Ottoman_expedition_to_the_Canary_Islands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnaut_Mami
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jun/10/agents-of-empire-knights-corsairs-jesuits-spies-sixteenth-century-mediterranean-noel-malcolm-review
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The Serbs are the oldest race in the Balkans and everyone stems from us - Croatians, Albanians, Bosnians, Slovenians, etc... just a few religious changes over the century, but everyone has Serb blood.
(CHi, 1 February 2019 15:39)
No, Serbs are migrated Sorbs from EastGerman-Czech-Polish triangle.
The same time Croatians are Poles from Krakow area.
The minor language differences are due that.
There are some theories, that Slavs lived at least 1000 years longer on Balkans that we know "officially". Noting supports them.
The area was very sparsely populated, no large kingdom was built.
The Serbian - Bulgarian language line is an other interesting thing.
I did read somewhere the Serbian - Bulgarian language separation started because of hostile Vlachs and Shqips in the mountains.
I can't decide for myself and it is only important when out of nowhere the Vlachs and Shqips start to tell, they invented the Moon and the Jadran.
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But who they are than?
(Je¿ gruziñski, lezgiñski, ormiañski i nie albañski, 1 February 2019 06:02)
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Albanians are nomads, folklore passed down throughout the generations have described them for centuries. That is why there is no cohesive Albanian history and for nationalism reasons they take historical figures such as Kastrioti and turned them into Albanian figures.
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(Ata lesh me qime, 1 February 2019 15:38)
"Ata lesh me qime" = "Barbarossa"? LOL. You are right.
But Barbarossa is s Greek (mother side), too.
And spent his on a Greek island, far-far from Albanian lands.
It was a family of exceptional talents.
And the general trend: many Albanians in armies, not that many in the navy.
Than the case with Russian Tsar. He "imported" Orthodox Albanians as warriors and settled them around Odessa. They were good in armies, not much known about Russian navy.
With Illyrian past I expect much more than that. Illyrians were pirates, Albanians just not.
Their most pirate activity was around 17th century in Ulcinj.
Where they were before?
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How does that foot taste Ataman?
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(Atalesh, 1 February 2019 16:52)
You successfully proved that Reis family were great naval warriors. Let's not discuss that if you go into their roots, you will see that their upbringing was on Greek islands.
Much simpler:
I see a gap of at least 1500 years, from antique Greece to Reis. This can't happen with Illyrians.
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