EU is dead, don't give up Kosovo, French officer tells Serbs
Retired French Colonel Jacques Hogard, who in 1999 protected Serbs in Kosovo after the withdrawal of the Yugoslav Army, met in Belgrade with Milos Jovanovic.
Betsy lalich, french people are so close to serbia, really?!!
France was one of the first countries to recognize Kosova, right after USA and Germany!
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That's just the current establishment which isn't going to last much longer. Just ask Marine LePenn how she feels. She's the future of France.
... You’re a little brat that has been skipping school, soon enough you’ll be put back under the control of your parents!
Squatter.
(Trizo, 17 January 2019 09:51)
Always the truant playing once blame the others for their ignorance.
Had Trizio not played truant, he/she/it would have been taught about the pagan horde from the other side of the Carpathian mountains called Serbs squatting the Balkans since the 7th century.
Betsy lalich, french people are so close to serbia, really?!!
France was one of the first countries to recognize Kosova, right after USA and Germany! Stop with your b.s. propaganda if you want people to take you seriously. This person's opinion has ZERO value, that is why he picked his crowd in Serbia! He has no credibility or truth to any of his claims.
Ziveli Jacques !
Traditionally the French have been Serbian allies.
It is good to hear this news.
France is very close to exiting the European Union.
The "Yellow Vest" has reached the world, where people are rising up against government and media lies and corruption in several countries, including the Middle East.
Essentially it is a rejection of "Globalism", which not only destroys nations and peoples, but is heartless in its brutality and propaganda.
No nation would pridefully accept such dismissive reality of history and culture.
Mr. Hogard is correct - the EU is disintegrating. Now that May survived the non-confidence vote, she must deliver the exit package. Iceland voted not to join the EU a few years back, and there are many voices calling for BREXIT-like possibilities. The EU may end being about 4 regions, within 20 years tops. People want control of their: economy, borders, immigration, but want to be bound to some EU-like economic zone. Time will tell, but my bets are that Hogard is right. Further, Serbia to recognize KiM would be treason.
By any chance does anyone know if (only if) Jacques Hogard is a sympathizer or a supporter of the late Slobodan Milosevic and his regime? Wouldn't surprise me so if he is and he "bellyached" over Milosevic's downfall where he ended up at the Hague Detention Center like hell I'm going to feel sorry for Mr Hogard. I have better things to do for I never shed a tear for Milosevic,his subordinates and his sympathizers or supporters nor will I "lose sleep" over it.
His political opinions are just that - his opinions.
I would mention something from this article.
"Hogard was the commander of French special forces who in 1999 acted to save the Serbian Orthodox monastery of Devic in Kosovo and the nuns there, when Albanian extremists attempted to attack this holy place. "
It was a partial success you can say. Monastery was robbed and few icons desecrated in 1999. But, for what?
In 2004 , in presence of NATO soldiers, Devic Monastery was burned to the ground and tomb of Holy Joanakius of Devic was opened, his bones desecrated an thrown into the bushes.
If EU is dead France is dead, too. France has invested a lot when it comes to EU. In the time of globalization there's no going back (like it or not). That would be suicide.
"There's nothing this guy can do anymore except tell the truth...and that's what bothers people like you!" he is not saying anything, he is calling on the people of Europe to wake up, but wake up from what and to what? he does not specify, he is just a noise maker and that's all he will remain. He has no power, no influence so he can't change anything. this is the truth.
as for this: "But what can we expect when "conspiracy" was around when Satan conspired against God himself!
And we expect Satan not to "tempt" us humans today???" seek help
And I'm pretty certain you consider Haradinaj your type of leader." I don't. Hardaniaj has all the charm of of toilet paper. he is anything but a leader
EU -NATO - AMERICA IS DONE ITS OVER ,,,,THE WORLD HAS AWOKEN FROM THEIR BULLYING LITTLE NATIONS,BUT ARE COWARDS.....NOW RUSSIA IS HERE ,CHINA IS HERE, INDIA IS HERE, EVERYONE IS HERE....LOL ITS OVER FOR THEM...SO TO THE ALBANIANS THAT LIVE LIKE ITS THE 80S ARE 90S ....ITS NOT ITS 2019...NOWHERE TO RUN AND NOWHERE TO HIDE..YOU HAVE NO MORE MASTERS LOL..SO FIRE THE FIRST SHOT
Kosovo’s independence was spearheaded by America, the only reason the EU got involved was because they wanted to seem all important infront of the international community, no one asked them to get involved. The EU could burn tomorrow and Albanians would never give up Kosovo. The French are cowards, who haven’t been masters of their own home since Napoleon, so forgive me if I don’t take fighting words from a white flag waving coward seriously. As for Serbs, you need to learn to live with your neighbours as most of them are at breaking point with you.
I can only assume that you use the word sane ironically.
As for me not liking what this gentleman says, makes no difference to me, he has no authority, he can't force change, but how come he doesn't make clear what people should be awake to? Anyone can make rallying cries, they are far too easy
(Nikolle, 16 January 2019 16:56)
@ nikolleaj - There's nothing this guy can do anymore except tell the truth...and that's what bothers people like you! You automatically label him as "nut job", LOL!
His revolution is his speaking, that's all he can do!
Fabrications like "racak" and "genocide" will always pop to the surface for what they truly are...Fabrications!
But what can we expect when "conspiracy" was around when Satan conspired against God himself!
And we expect Satan not to "tempt" us humans today???
... President Orban and most of the readership here prefer Colonel Hogard's view of reality not yours. Happy New Year.
(Visionary, 16 January 2019 16:04)
Another Visionary successful attendee of Baba Vanga's mind reading intensive evening crush course - entry level.
@watcher
Orban, uses western cash (Hungary being a net recipient of EU money) whilst railing against the west. No time for hypocrites, sorry. This is excluding his blatant promotion of conspiracy theories like Soros ruling the EU. I get why morons like you find him appealing
1: BREXIT has to be hammered out;
2: Fr&De will sign the 'Elysee Treaty 2.0' next week that will tie both countries much closer together (economy/defense/blablabla) - multispeed Europe in action;
3: Poland, Italy & possibly Hungary are mounting resistance (the first two have folded on judges & budgets);
4: and this is quite the biggie, is the EP elections - if it brings a lot of new anti-integration MEPs in, whether or not turn out is as historically low as the last elections.
There are others, but those are my top 4 at a guess that will have the most impact, but there is plenty of other factors in play. All bets are off.
As soon as someone with some kudos says something our beloved Nikolle doesn't like he tries to poo-poo their thinking and has now set himself/herself up as the guiding light that will now show the people what he/she wants them to see. Thanks for the ophthalmic advice but most sane people eg.President Orban and most of the readership here prefer Colonel Hogard's view of reality not yours. Happy New Year.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you really need to go back in time and go over the pages of history, at no pointe in time has Serbia ever had full sovereignty or authority over The Majority inhabiated Once Region and Now Full fledged Independent Republic Of Kosova!
"...nations in the EU to be awoke" be awoke to what? When people use bs phrases like that, there's nothing one can do but shrug. As if this man has taken it upon himself to show the peope what they don't see. I'm pretty certain this gentlman considers Orban his type of leader
(Nikolle, 16 January 2019 15:18)
@ nikolleaj - and what is the problem with Orban, pray tell? Is it because he's not a western lackey like you in pristina??
Orban was elected by the Hungarian people to work in the interest of Hungary, not anybody else! That's what he's doing! Bravo Orbane!
I can only assume that you use the word sane ironically.
As for me not liking what this gentleman says, makes no difference to me, he has no authority, he can't force change, but how come he doesn't make clear what people should be awake to? Anyone can make rallying cries, they are far too easy
Viva Jacques Hogard. Finally a Frenchmen with integrity and and understanding of the historic tie between Serbia and France - unlike that little POS Macron that's slowly bringing his country down...
"...nations in the EU to be awoke" be awoke to what? When people use bs phrases like that, there's nothing one can do but shrug. As if this man has taken it upon himself to show the peope what they don't see. I'm pretty certain this gentlman considers Orban his type of leader
Viva Jacques Hogard. Finally a Frenchmen with integrity and and understanding of the historic tie between Serbia and France - unlike that little POS Macron that's slowly bringing his country down...
EU -NATO - AMERICA IS DONE ITS OVER ,,,,THE WORLD HAS AWOKEN FROM THEIR BULLYING LITTLE NATIONS,BUT ARE COWARDS.....NOW RUSSIA IS HERE ,CHINA IS HERE, INDIA IS HERE, EVERYONE IS HERE....LOL ITS OVER FOR THEM...SO TO THE ALBANIANS THAT LIVE LIKE ITS THE 80S ARE 90S ....ITS NOT ITS 2019...NOWHERE TO RUN AND NOWHERE TO HIDE..YOU HAVE NO MORE MASTERS LOL..SO FIRE THE FIRST SHOT
As soon as someone with some kudos says something our beloved Nikolle doesn't like he tries to poo-poo their thinking and has now set himself/herself up as the guiding light that will now show the people what he/she wants them to see. Thanks for the ophthalmic advice but most sane people eg.President Orban and most of the readership here prefer Colonel Hogard's view of reality not yours. Happy New Year.
"...nations in the EU to be awoke" be awoke to what? When people use bs phrases like that, there's nothing one can do but shrug. As if this man has taken it upon himself to show the peope what they don't see. I'm pretty certain this gentlman considers Orban his type of leader
(Nikolle, 16 January 2019 15:18)
@ nikolleaj - and what is the problem with Orban, pray tell? Is it because he's not a western lackey like you in pristina??
Orban was elected by the Hungarian people to work in the interest of Hungary, not anybody else! That's what he's doing! Bravo Orbane!
I can only assume that you use the word sane ironically.
As for me not liking what this gentleman says, makes no difference to me, he has no authority, he can't force change, but how come he doesn't make clear what people should be awake to? Anyone can make rallying cries, they are far too easy
(Nikolle, 16 January 2019 16:56)
@ nikolleaj - There's nothing this guy can do anymore except tell the truth...and that's what bothers people like you! You automatically label him as "nut job", LOL!
His revolution is his speaking, that's all he can do!
Fabrications like "racak" and "genocide" will always pop to the surface for what they truly are...Fabrications!
But what can we expect when "conspiracy" was around when Satan conspired against God himself!
And we expect Satan not to "tempt" us humans today???
1: BREXIT has to be hammered out;
2: Fr&De will sign the 'Elysee Treaty 2.0' next week that will tie both countries much closer together (economy/defense/blablabla) - multispeed Europe in action;
3: Poland, Italy & possibly Hungary are mounting resistance (the first two have folded on judges & budgets);
4: and this is quite the biggie, is the EP elections - if it brings a lot of new anti-integration MEPs in, whether or not turn out is as historically low as the last elections.
There are others, but those are my top 4 at a guess that will have the most impact, but there is plenty of other factors in play. All bets are off.
Kosovo’s independence was spearheaded by America, the only reason the EU got involved was because they wanted to seem all important infront of the international community, no one asked them to get involved. The EU could burn tomorrow and Albanians would never give up Kosovo. The French are cowards, who haven’t been masters of their own home since Napoleon, so forgive me if I don’t take fighting words from a white flag waving coward seriously. As for Serbs, you need to learn to live with your neighbours as most of them are at breaking point with you.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you really need to go back in time and go over the pages of history, at no pointe in time has Serbia ever had full sovereignty or authority over The Majority inhabiated Once Region and Now Full fledged Independent Republic Of Kosova!
Mr. Hogard is correct - the EU is disintegrating. Now that May survived the non-confidence vote, she must deliver the exit package. Iceland voted not to join the EU a few years back, and there are many voices calling for BREXIT-like possibilities. The EU may end being about 4 regions, within 20 years tops. People want control of their: economy, borders, immigration, but want to be bound to some EU-like economic zone. Time will tell, but my bets are that Hogard is right. Further, Serbia to recognize KiM would be treason.
... President Orban and most of the readership here prefer Colonel Hogard's view of reality not yours. Happy New Year.
(Visionary, 16 January 2019 16:04)
Another Visionary successful attendee of Baba Vanga's mind reading intensive evening crush course - entry level.
His political opinions are just that - his opinions.
I would mention something from this article.
"Hogard was the commander of French special forces who in 1999 acted to save the Serbian Orthodox monastery of Devic in Kosovo and the nuns there, when Albanian extremists attempted to attack this holy place. "
It was a partial success you can say. Monastery was robbed and few icons desecrated in 1999. But, for what?
In 2004 , in presence of NATO soldiers, Devic Monastery was burned to the ground and tomb of Holy Joanakius of Devic was opened, his bones desecrated an thrown into the bushes.
"...nations in the EU to be awoke" be awoke to what? When people use bs phrases like that, there's nothing one can do but shrug. As if this man has taken it upon himself to show the peope what they don't see. I'm pretty certain this gentlman considers Orban his type of leader
I can only assume that you use the word sane ironically.
As for me not liking what this gentleman says, makes no difference to me, he has no authority, he can't force change, but how come he doesn't make clear what people should be awake to? Anyone can make rallying cries, they are far too easy
If EU is dead France is dead, too. France has invested a lot when it comes to EU. In the time of globalization there's no going back (like it or not). That would be suicide.
Ziveli Jacques !
Traditionally the French have been Serbian allies.
It is good to hear this news.
France is very close to exiting the European Union.
The "Yellow Vest" has reached the world, where people are rising up against government and media lies and corruption in several countries, including the Middle East.
Essentially it is a rejection of "Globalism", which not only destroys nations and peoples, but is heartless in its brutality and propaganda.
No nation would pridefully accept such dismissive reality of history and culture.
... You’re a little brat that has been skipping school, soon enough you’ll be put back under the control of your parents!
Squatter.
(Trizo, 17 January 2019 09:51)
Always the truant playing once blame the others for their ignorance.
Had Trizio not played truant, he/she/it would have been taught about the pagan horde from the other side of the Carpathian mountains called Serbs squatting the Balkans since the 7th century.
@watcher
Orban, uses western cash (Hungary being a net recipient of EU money) whilst railing against the west. No time for hypocrites, sorry. This is excluding his blatant promotion of conspiracy theories like Soros ruling the EU. I get why morons like you find him appealing
"There's nothing this guy can do anymore except tell the truth...and that's what bothers people like you!" he is not saying anything, he is calling on the people of Europe to wake up, but wake up from what and to what? he does not specify, he is just a noise maker and that's all he will remain. He has no power, no influence so he can't change anything. this is the truth.
as for this: "But what can we expect when "conspiracy" was around when Satan conspired against God himself!
And we expect Satan not to "tempt" us humans today???" seek help
And I'm pretty certain you consider Haradinaj your type of leader." I don't. Hardaniaj has all the charm of of toilet paper. he is anything but a leader
Betsy lalich, french people are so close to serbia, really?!!
France was one of the first countries to recognize Kosova, right after USA and Germany! Stop with your b.s. propaganda if you want people to take you seriously. This person's opinion has ZERO value, that is why he picked his crowd in Serbia! He has no credibility or truth to any of his claims.
By any chance does anyone know if (only if) Jacques Hogard is a sympathizer or a supporter of the late Slobodan Milosevic and his regime? Wouldn't surprise me so if he is and he "bellyached" over Milosevic's downfall where he ended up at the Hague Detention Center like hell I'm going to feel sorry for Mr Hogard. I have better things to do for I never shed a tear for Milosevic,his subordinates and his sympathizers or supporters nor will I "lose sleep" over it.
Betsy lalich, french people are so close to serbia, really?!!
France was one of the first countries to recognize Kosova, right after USA and Germany!
==========================
That's just the current establishment which isn't going to last much longer. Just ask Marine LePenn how she feels. She's the future of France.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you really need to go back in time and go over the pages of history, at no pointe in time has Serbia ever had full sovereignty or authority over The Majority inhabiated Once Region and Now Full fledged Independent Republic Of Kosova!
"...nations in the EU to be awoke" be awoke to what? When people use bs phrases like that, there's nothing one can do but shrug. As if this man has taken it upon himself to show the peope what they don't see. I'm pretty certain this gentlman considers Orban his type of leader
Kosovo’s independence was spearheaded by America, the only reason the EU got involved was because they wanted to seem all important infront of the international community, no one asked them to get involved. The EU could burn tomorrow and Albanians would never give up Kosovo. The French are cowards, who haven’t been masters of their own home since Napoleon, so forgive me if I don’t take fighting words from a white flag waving coward seriously. As for Serbs, you need to learn to live with your neighbours as most of them are at breaking point with you.
I can only assume that you use the word sane ironically.
As for me not liking what this gentleman says, makes no difference to me, he has no authority, he can't force change, but how come he doesn't make clear what people should be awake to? Anyone can make rallying cries, they are far too easy
@watcher
Orban, uses western cash (Hungary being a net recipient of EU money) whilst railing against the west. No time for hypocrites, sorry. This is excluding his blatant promotion of conspiracy theories like Soros ruling the EU. I get why morons like you find him appealing
... President Orban and most of the readership here prefer Colonel Hogard's view of reality not yours. Happy New Year.
(Visionary, 16 January 2019 16:04)
Another Visionary successful attendee of Baba Vanga's mind reading intensive evening crush course - entry level.
Viva Jacques Hogard. Finally a Frenchmen with integrity and and understanding of the historic tie between Serbia and France - unlike that little POS Macron that's slowly bringing his country down...
If EU is dead France is dead, too. France has invested a lot when it comes to EU. In the time of globalization there's no going back (like it or not). That would be suicide.
EU -NATO - AMERICA IS DONE ITS OVER ,,,,THE WORLD HAS AWOKEN FROM THEIR BULLYING LITTLE NATIONS,BUT ARE COWARDS.....NOW RUSSIA IS HERE ,CHINA IS HERE, INDIA IS HERE, EVERYONE IS HERE....LOL ITS OVER FOR THEM...SO TO THE ALBANIANS THAT LIVE LIKE ITS THE 80S ARE 90S ....ITS NOT ITS 2019...NOWHERE TO RUN AND NOWHERE TO HIDE..YOU HAVE NO MORE MASTERS LOL..SO FIRE THE FIRST SHOT
I can only assume that you use the word sane ironically.
As for me not liking what this gentleman says, makes no difference to me, he has no authority, he can't force change, but how come he doesn't make clear what people should be awake to? Anyone can make rallying cries, they are far too easy
(Nikolle, 16 January 2019 16:56)
@ nikolleaj - There's nothing this guy can do anymore except tell the truth...and that's what bothers people like you! You automatically label him as "nut job", LOL!
His revolution is his speaking, that's all he can do!
Fabrications like "racak" and "genocide" will always pop to the surface for what they truly are...Fabrications!
But what can we expect when "conspiracy" was around when Satan conspired against God himself!
And we expect Satan not to "tempt" us humans today???
"There's nothing this guy can do anymore except tell the truth...and that's what bothers people like you!" he is not saying anything, he is calling on the people of Europe to wake up, but wake up from what and to what? he does not specify, he is just a noise maker and that's all he will remain. He has no power, no influence so he can't change anything. this is the truth.
as for this: "But what can we expect when "conspiracy" was around when Satan conspired against God himself!
And we expect Satan not to "tempt" us humans today???" seek help
And I'm pretty certain you consider Haradinaj your type of leader." I don't. Hardaniaj has all the charm of of toilet paper. he is anything but a leader
By any chance does anyone know if (only if) Jacques Hogard is a sympathizer or a supporter of the late Slobodan Milosevic and his regime? Wouldn't surprise me so if he is and he "bellyached" over Milosevic's downfall where he ended up at the Hague Detention Center like hell I'm going to feel sorry for Mr Hogard. I have better things to do for I never shed a tear for Milosevic,his subordinates and his sympathizers or supporters nor will I "lose sleep" over it.
"...nations in the EU to be awoke" be awoke to what? When people use bs phrases like that, there's nothing one can do but shrug. As if this man has taken it upon himself to show the peope what they don't see. I'm pretty certain this gentlman considers Orban his type of leader
(Nikolle, 16 January 2019 15:18)
@ nikolleaj - and what is the problem with Orban, pray tell? Is it because he's not a western lackey like you in pristina??
Orban was elected by the Hungarian people to work in the interest of Hungary, not anybody else! That's what he's doing! Bravo Orbane!
As soon as someone with some kudos says something our beloved Nikolle doesn't like he tries to poo-poo their thinking and has now set himself/herself up as the guiding light that will now show the people what he/she wants them to see. Thanks for the ophthalmic advice but most sane people eg.President Orban and most of the readership here prefer Colonel Hogard's view of reality not yours. Happy New Year.
Betsy lalich, french people are so close to serbia, really?!!
France was one of the first countries to recognize Kosova, right after USA and Germany! Stop with your b.s. propaganda if you want people to take you seriously. This person's opinion has ZERO value, that is why he picked his crowd in Serbia! He has no credibility or truth to any of his claims.
Ziveli Jacques !
Traditionally the French have been Serbian allies.
It is good to hear this news.
France is very close to exiting the European Union.
The "Yellow Vest" has reached the world, where people are rising up against government and media lies and corruption in several countries, including the Middle East.
Essentially it is a rejection of "Globalism", which not only destroys nations and peoples, but is heartless in its brutality and propaganda.
No nation would pridefully accept such dismissive reality of history and culture.
His political opinions are just that - his opinions.
I would mention something from this article.
"Hogard was the commander of French special forces who in 1999 acted to save the Serbian Orthodox monastery of Devic in Kosovo and the nuns there, when Albanian extremists attempted to attack this holy place. "
It was a partial success you can say. Monastery was robbed and few icons desecrated in 1999. But, for what?
In 2004 , in presence of NATO soldiers, Devic Monastery was burned to the ground and tomb of Holy Joanakius of Devic was opened, his bones desecrated an thrown into the bushes.
... You’re a little brat that has been skipping school, soon enough you’ll be put back under the control of your parents!
Squatter.
(Trizo, 17 January 2019 09:51)
Always the truant playing once blame the others for their ignorance.
Had Trizio not played truant, he/she/it would have been taught about the pagan horde from the other side of the Carpathian mountains called Serbs squatting the Balkans since the 7th century.
1: BREXIT has to be hammered out;
2: Fr&De will sign the 'Elysee Treaty 2.0' next week that will tie both countries much closer together (economy/defense/blablabla) - multispeed Europe in action;
3: Poland, Italy & possibly Hungary are mounting resistance (the first two have folded on judges & budgets);
4: and this is quite the biggie, is the EP elections - if it brings a lot of new anti-integration MEPs in, whether or not turn out is as historically low as the last elections.
There are others, but those are my top 4 at a guess that will have the most impact, but there is plenty of other factors in play. All bets are off.
Betsy lalich, french people are so close to serbia, really?!!
France was one of the first countries to recognize Kosova, right after USA and Germany!
==========================
That's just the current establishment which isn't going to last much longer. Just ask Marine LePenn how she feels. She's the future of France.
Mr. Hogard is correct - the EU is disintegrating. Now that May survived the non-confidence vote, she must deliver the exit package. Iceland voted not to join the EU a few years back, and there are many voices calling for BREXIT-like possibilities. The EU may end being about 4 regions, within 20 years tops. People want control of their: economy, borders, immigration, but want to be bound to some EU-like economic zone. Time will tell, but my bets are that Hogard is right. Further, Serbia to recognize KiM would be treason.
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